They say that everyone changes, it's interesting to know

[Womanslave]

And another question - what do, for example, Ivan or Sergei, who fuck your wife, say about you?
Do you shake their hand when you meet them on the street? Or do they not hand it to you?

I don’t even know them by sight.

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What are these actions?

No, she doesn’t run around with a hammer drill, because repairs can be suspended during illness, but she goes to the store and buys what she needs, incl. me personally. I take care of the house (laundry, cleaning, etc.) when she is sick and asks me to help her. But this doesn’t happen often. What do you see as bad in this?

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I’ll tell you a secret - this is not love.

I doubt that your interpretation of love will suit me. A wife under a boot who does not have the right to squeak is not love. And a wife who leaves you in a difficult moment, but does not go on the side, is also not love. This is slavery and subordination. Love is freedom and happiness, equality in the family.

[Keep the change for yourself]

And another question - what do, for example, Ivan or Sergei, who fuck your wife, say about you?
Do you shake their hand when you meet them on the street? Or do they not hand it to you?

I don’t even know them by sight.

nYelled at the top of his voice I almost fell out of my chair.

So... It’s all clear... Oh, what’s going on in your head is fucked up.. But not "scrapers", although why did you write about them, I don’t know... As you say, you are a "free" person - when will you start to respect yourself at least a little?

And one more thing. Question - what is your ratio of her lovers/your lovers - 5/1, 10/1, 20/1?

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A wife under her boot who does not have the right to squeak is not love.

do you have dualistic thinking? Either under the boot or you’re a cuckold?

[Womanslave]

And another question - what is your ratio of her lovers/your lovers - 5/1, 10/1, 20/1?

She has one lover . Now.

[Keep the change for yourself]

And another question - what is your ratio of her lovers/your lovers - 5/1, 10/1, 20/1?

She has one lover. Now.

Above you wrote "THEM" - and this is the plural. Although this is no longer the point.
But I still didn’t answer to myself, it seems to me that you still have 0 - am I guessing right?

[Womanslave]

when will you start to respect yourself at least a little?

We speak different languages. To respect yourself - in your opinion - to leave your wife who loves you only because sometimes she goes to see her lover, and not even in secret? Or do you naively believe that your missus didn’t have sex with anyone after the wedding? What a weirdo you are.

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Above you wrote "Them" - and this is the plural. Although this is no longer the point.
But he didn’t answer to himself, it seems to me that you still have 0 - I guessed right?

The fact that now he is alone , does not mean that there were not others before. Therefore, "THEM". I have one now.

[Keep the change for yourself]

Womanslave, you made my day, dude)))
Go wash the dishes and say hi to your wife)))

[Womanslave]

you made my day, dude)))
Go wash the dishes, say hi to your wife)))

Are the arguments over? You know, I honestly don’t give a damn what you and others like you think. We live the way we feel comfortable, and who said that this is not right? Society? So why is it mired in all this crap that is happening now if it is so right? If you don’t understand someone or something, these are purely your problems, your inability to think broadly. Therefore, live as you see fit, and there is no need to impose your point of view on someone and say that they live incorrectly just because it is unacceptable for you personally.

[Hair shirt]

I have a married mistress, there is no sex at home, so I found him on the side, a completely normal reaction to family problems

How did you find each other? It’s not that simple. Colleagues at work? Neighbours?

[Alexssss]

Markul,

And another question - what they say, for example, Ivan or Sergei, who fuck your wife about you?

They think how lucky they are to have him, he’s a good guy and he doesn’t mind the wives even for the guys )

[Keep the change for yourself]

What, are the arguments over?

If I had free time, I could continue for a very long time, but you don’t have this resource right now.

nSociety? So why is it mired in all this crap

crap? We have an excellent secular society with a well-established, proper institution of the family. What’s wrong?

If you don’t understand someone or something, these are purely your problems, your inability to think broadly.

do you think being a cuckold means thinking broadly? Yeah, it’s clear that where are we all narrow-minded compared to you...

and there is no need to impose your point of view on someone and say that he lives wrong

Well, by this logic, you can pass by maniacs who are trying to rape someone, or bandits who are trying to rob someone, or by a playground where some children beat others.

Remember! If you are not like everyone else, then most likely you are not better than others, and you are defective. And your "family", thanks to you man cuckold defective.
You were made into a deer by your own consent, and you are trying to prove to us that this is freedom.

[Womanslave]

and you are trying to prove to us that this is freedom.

I am not trying to prove anything to you, because I will not get any benefit from this. Who is defective and who is not is not for you to judge. Who are you anyway to judge me? And I repeat once again: I wanted to give a shit about you, about your Soviet society with its pseudo-institutions of the family and all this crap.

[Makcumyc1984]

Makcumyc1984: ↑Oct 20, 2023, 15:49
I have a married mistress, there is no sex at home, so I found her on the side, a completely normal reaction to family problems
How did you find each other? It’s not that simple. Colleagues at work? Neighbors?

found each other on a dating site

[Hair shirt]

I have not cheated on my wife even once in 15 years of married life. I thought it was also true. I recently found out that she has had a lover for many years.

As they say...
The third one always appears when there is room for him. And if there is no place for him, then this third one will not exist.
Well, that means you messed up somewhere somewhere. Perhaps they didn’t even think that this could entail any consequences.

For example, men often don’t bother, let’s say that they have already finished too early many times in a row. And I was too lazy to go for the second approach. Well, like, I need to go right now, make coffee, take it to bed. Some kind of dancing with a tambourine and then again in la moure, prelude, and a second time but longer and better. Like man, you see, I’m tired, I have to get up early. Let’s finish it tomorrow.

And let’s say this five or six times in a row. And the wife already knows that he will climb in right now, the bastard will finish and turn around and fall asleep. And she is again all unfucked. So what’s more, when a guy wanted it very badly and they didn’t give it to him, his balls hurt badly. And when a woman is not fucked enough, her stomach hurts. And now she knows that her stomach will hurt again. And she knows everything in advance. And then he complains to some very close friend. Or your girlfriend, the doctor. If there is such a thing.

And I once heard from one woman that she went to a consultation with some kind of women’s problems. And that they say the doctor questioned her in detail. And this is roughly the situation. And the doctor told her that she either needs to build up her husband somehow so that he can fuck him better and treat it more responsibly. Or get someone on the side and not worry too much about ethical things. What do you say, my dear, don’t bother yourself with all sorts of things, you need to think about your health. And for this you need regular sex and regular release. And it doesn’t matter who it will be - a husband, a neighbor or your boss.

I personally think that most betrayals occur precisely because of sexual dissatisfaction. When a woman regularly lacks sex for a long period of time. That is, it either does not exist at all, or it is somehow fragmentary and short-lived. They teased Toko Toko and then left him at that - like the husband (or whoever) came ahead of time and will get hard in just an hour or so. And an hour later he either fell asleep or was busy with other things.

This is one aspect.
Lovers can also become involved if the spouses stop spending leisure time together. That is, the husband either goes fishing, or goes to garages with men, or he has some other hobby. And the wife is like she’s a wife to do something at home. Like a fireplace and all that.
Well, at some point they simply become roommates. When there is nothing to talk about except some kind of household needs. Well, to have sex when he feels like it.

Well, there are also really difficult cases when a man simply has some problems related to incompatibility in sex. That is, he either has small penis for the wife, it either doesn’t stand well, or the wife’s pussy is, to put it mildly, very spacious. And the husband, of course, tries and still nothing works. And then someone tells the wife what lies on the surface - they say she should try it with someone else and see the result.

But it is still easier for a woman to arrange sex on the side than for a man. And sooner or later she decides to do it - and tries. And then I’m just blown away by the result. Like why was I stupid!!!
It’s like with the other one! And I thought that it was me. That I’m somehow so wrong!

And that’s where lovers come from, with whom, as you say, they have maintained regular relationships for several years.
I think it’s all the same in this directly or the husband is indirectly to blame.
I’ll even say more - I think that when a married couple is looking for someone else for sex, it’s nothing more than the same thing.
That is, someone is still loaded with what they have then problems with sex and tries to stay ahead of the curve. Without waiting for the wife to find someone for herself. But behind your back and without your knowledge.

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found each other on a dating site

Tell us in more detail. Interesting...

[Alexssss]

hair shirt, It’s okay how you scattered everything on the shelves) ), but that’s how it is

[Andrew495]

In continuation of the above, I personally know a couple who divorced because after giving birth the man felt too “wide” there. And so, they cheated for a couple of years, he cheated and left for someone else. Just in case, I’ll let you know - I’m not making excuses for him)))

[Keep the change for yourself]

hair shirt,
I shake your hand, sir, I agree with almost everything, especially the second half of what was written. Although it’s long, it’s intelligible.
I hope a couple of the cuckolds who wrote earlier will see their mistakes here, maybe their brains will become clearer.

[Omut46]

Hair shirt,
I don’t think I messed up... I wrote everything logically and competently. But there were no signs that he had done anything wrong. The relationship is very warm. Regarding sex, the wife herself often shows activity and desire, and if I have a desire, she responds with visible pleasure. If she didn’t like it, she would probably try to avoid it. During 15 years of marriage there were no serious disagreements.
Yes, in the video she moans louder than usual. His penis is visually significantly larger. Perhaps it gives her more acute pleasure.
I don’t know.

[Hair shirt]

I don’t think I messed up... I wrote everything logically and competently. But there were no signs that he had done anything wrong. The relationship is very warm. Regarding sex, the wife herself often shows activity and desire, and if I have a desire, she responds with visible pleasure. If she didn’t like it, she would probably try to avoid it. During 15 years of marriage there were no serious disagreements.
Yes, in the video she moans louder than usual. His penis is visually significantly larger. Perhaps it gives her more acute pleasure.
I don’t know.

And this is her experience. Now think about how you would feel if the third person was not a man, but some very young adult girl? With a tight pussy the size of a mouse’s eye, which flows when you just touch it behind the ear with your tongue. The one who starts up half a turn and who has not yet thought about how to get married, but who wants to fuck like a gun. And you get a headache just from the sight of her in an excited state. Well, when she puts it on your dick, no matter how small it is, it is still very tightly squeezed by her pussy.

Well, in general, your wife tried another dick, and I think she liked it very much . And I think you should also try what it’s like when it’s the way it should be and not some other way. And it will be fair.
Well, in general, of course, it’s a drama when the pussy is spacious and the dick is small. And it’s simply impossible to do anything here. And probably the truth is that a lover or a mistress on the side may really be the best solution for both.

That is, people in the family have everything good except sex. And they themselves don’t want to ruin it all. And they may actually be ready to somehow compromise sex with each other. That is, to fuck each other knowing that sex can be better.
Even more than that - knowing for sure that he SHOULD be better.
But people meet each other halfway and still fuck each other purely out of respect and understanding that this is simply necessary to maintain the intimacy and tenderness of each other to a friend.

But knowing that once in a certain period of time there will be a meeting with someone with whom sex really brings complete pleasure.
Well, someone is trying to give this some kind of legality and some sense - I think these are the same cuckolds and swingers.

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It seems like I didn’t mess up...

And you didn’t have to mess up. It’s just about your genitals.
You either have a small penis for her, or it doesn’t stand well, or you cum quickly, or for some reason you can’t fuck her for a long time with a well-standing dick.
Or all together.

First, try to solve the problem of a bad riser. Get enough sleep. Buy a set for physical exercise at home - a curved barbell with weights up to 20 kilograms, stacked dumbbells up to ten kilograms each. Create a set of exercises for yourself. And do it every other day. This will speed up the blood and change the metabolism. Stop drinking beer and eating flour and fatty foods. Divide each portion that you are going to eat in half and eat only half. Drink more water. You should drink at least two liters of water a day.
Exclude pure sugar from your diet. That is, sugar simply no longer exists for you.

Give up coffee and tea for a while. And drink only water for a couple of weeks. And definitely don’t drink cola.
And all of the above for at least a month.
Try to withstand all this for a month.
And see what happens.
There is a very high probability that it will be better to stand.

And this is already a lot even if HE is not so big.

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I hope a couple of the cuckolds who wrote earlier will see their mistakes here, maybe their brains will become clearer

Yes, they all know all this without me.

[aryamari]

yes, she cheated, she came by chance without the purpose of cheating

Where exactly did she come? If it’s an apartment get-together with drinking and dancing, at the invitation of a friend, then sex at such parties is implied by default.

No, I met a man while studying. An interesting person, but she perceived him as a friend and didn’t think O

[Hair shirt]

No, I met a man while studying. An interesting person, but she perceived him as a friend and didn’t think about it

You women can’t even imagine what a thrill it is for a man to find a friend, a woman with whom sex is not just possible, like if we get lucky. No! It’s just like this is an option where you can ask her for it and you will be understood correctly. No one will break you like shit through a stick. No one will manipulate you like the ladies if...

And understand correctly, we are not talking about a female pussy friend on legs. No. It’s true friend, it’s true that it’s interesting to be with each other, it’s true that you look forward to these meetings and appreciate them. But just sex with such a woman is not even sex, but some kind of highest degree of trust.
Especially if both really like this sex, and it’s not just sex as some kind of obedience.

And the most interesting thing is that it could be a female friend with whom you both have a stamp in your passport that you are husband and wife to each other. The important thing is that you are both fucking friends and the stamp in the passport is just something that is necessary for some kind of registration social things. Registration of housing, children, property, any payments or subsidies or loans.

But it also happens that opposite-sex friends are both unmarried for one reason or another. Either they are both studying somewhere else. Or, for example, doctors for whom the end of MED is just the beginning. Then an internship, then a long time to study and a lot of time will pass before you are allowed to operate on your own if you are a surgeon. And people can really be single for quite a long time simply because there is simply no time for a family.

Or some kind of career people. Someone who busts his ass and goes towards some goal. For this purpose, it receives a tower, then additionally, as a second tower, some management institute under the President of the Russian Federation, then numerous other competitions such as the Presidential Reserve or something similar. Lots of business trips. And you cannot relax in your environment where you are making a quarry. You can’t have an affair with someone. You can’t loosen your tongue with your surroundings once again. And always remember that your employees at work are your potential enemies and not friends or helpers. And that you are all competitors to each other in this job. And the price of a mistake is great and costs months and years of life.

And against this background, you have a man who has a fucking female friend. You can meet her somewhere and sit somewhere just to have a nice chat, like with a very good friend. And sex is not necessary here. There is simply a person with whom you feel good and who is also happy to see you. And it’s sincere and it’s true. And you don’t expect any trouble from him.

And what’s most important is that you don’t burden this friend of yours with your problems. You don’t ask him for anything because you are protecting him from your problems. Because you have this friend not because he is useful to you in some way or because he is of some use. It’s just for the soul. And if there is sex right now this evening, it won’t be because someone asked it from someone. But because someone suggested it to someone. And it wasn’t necessarily suggested by a woman. A man can offer sex too. It is to offer and not to ask, as is usually customary for everyone. And this is a very big difference.

[etc]

I think that almost everyone has sex on the side.

Oh well). Many people only dream). There is no time, energy, funds, opportunity, or they simply don’t give it.

[Billy Bones]

They’ve made a fool of themselves here, the theoreticians are traitors. It would be better if they told stories than to find out what treason is and what it is eaten with...

[Aion2012Dead]

I think those who cheat are those who have unspent energy.
This is how it happens.
Sometimes people coincide and they are comfortable together, and they spend energy on themselves and each other - this is just the perfect balance.
And it happens that they do not coincide completely, and unspent energy remains, and it is looking for a way out.
And the way out can be different, and it depends on the person, and on his upbringing and views. It may simply manifest itself in creativity.
Here it all depends on the person’s conscience.
Either he immediately says or admits that he (she) wants other people.
Or hides and lies.
And with every year we live together, it becomes more and more difficult.
That’s why I don’t really like our world, stupid and stupid social norms and restrictions.

[etc]

They’ve made a fool of themselves here, the theoreticians are traitors. It would be better if they told stories than to find out what betrayal is and what it is eaten with...

The topic should have been called "Our stories of betrayal"))) .

[aryamari]

You women can’t even imagine what a thrill it is for a man to find a woman friend

didn’t quite understand me that way, I thought he was a friend but he thought differently and had completely different views

[FUCKYAMATERITY]

I thought that he was a friend, but he thought differently and had completely different views

Like in the film Ten Little Indians: "this happens between a man and a woman"
Women usually do not have the concept of friendly sex, but men have it in their heads normally. We are built differently, it is a rare exception if a woman does not automatically equate intimacy with a relationship. And even then, it may be connected with troubles in a specific period of life - with this it’s just sex, and with the next it already has a whole range of meanings called relationships.

[FUCKYAMATERITY]

You women can’t even imagine what a thrill it is for a man to find a friend, a woman with whom sex is not just possible, like luck. No! It’s just like this is an option where you can ask her for it and you will be understood correctly. No one will break you like shit through a stick. No one will manipulate you like the ladies if....

Explains it well, dog ©
In the forum format, longreads are a bit difficult to read, but once you get into it, you don’t want to insert small comments about how sensible it is overall.

[Hair shirt]

they didn’t quite understand me that way, I thought that he was a friend, but he thought differently and had completely different views

Maybe he initially wanted to fuck you, but maybe not.
Why doesn’t it occur to you that this is normal? That sex with a friend of the opposite sex is simply an element of trust. For example, a friend at work gave you the keys to her apartment. Well, let’s just let you have them, otherwise I’ll lose mine somewhere and have to break down the door. And so I’ll call you and take the keys and open my apartment. And this is a certain degree of trust. For example, you are not ready to give every person the keys to your apartment, right?

It’s the same here. Try to turn the situation around - let’s say you’re not married and you, like any living person, want to fuck from time to time. Let’s be honest. But for some reason, you are not yet ready for some kind of permanent relationship. And you have a friend of the opposite sex with whom you feel comfortable and comfortable. As is usually the case between friends. That’s why, by the way, they are also friends.

And this friend can, for example, simply be invited to go shopping with you. Well, they don’t allow carts into stores in shopping centers. And with the purchases already made, it’s difficult to go shopping. And you just need someone who will follow you and wait for you near the entrance to every boutique or store in a shopping center. Usually husbands perform this role. What if there is no husband? That’s when you can ask a friend. You can’t ask your friend about this - she’ll go all crazy. She will be bored.

And no one else will agree. Except your good friend. Who feels good with you and who values ​​this friendship. But for friends of different sexes, this friendship is doubly valuable if sex is allowed in this friendship.
Like calling one another - listen, when was the last time we had this, don’t you remember?!
No, I don’t remember.
So maybe...
Come on. And where and when?

And note that I did not indicate the gender of what was the first to suggest. But because it does not matter in the friendship of a man and a woman.

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Explains it well, dog ©
It’s hard to read longreads in the forum format, but once you get into it, you don’t want to insert small comments, how sensible is the whole thing.

Your avatar is very fascinating and convincing. Where are you on it? In the foreground or in the background?


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I think those who cheat are those who have unspent energy

Everything is really simple...
And we all actually know all the answers to all the questions.
Here I once read such a text on this forum. About a year ago.
Some guy writes. He works in some warehouse of a relatively small company. The team are storekeepers. Four women and six men. All women are married, age from 25 to 45. Men of different ages. Half of the young unmarried.

Celebrated the eighth of March. Either right in the warehouse, or in some nearby sauna. They had a good time there and fucked with each other. And not just in pairs, but all with everyone. Every man has been in every woman. Everyone loved it. Especially women. All the women expressed a desire to repeat when it is customary to give gifts to men - on May 9.

Question for the audience...
What is this? Whoreness? Treason?
Or maybe it’s both? Maybe this is simply confirmation that there is a good atmosphere in the team and no one is squabbling with each other? Or maybe everyone is just tired of that stupid loyalty that no one needs? Loyalty to whom, why fidelity?
But when spouses are already approaching eighty, how do they feel about sex on the side? Is it already possible to have sex with your neighbor in a bathhouse at the dacha, or is it still not possible and you have to wait until your other half dies? And then...

I generally think so...
If you love a person and wish him happiness and all the good and the best, then it seems to me that you will be happy for him him that he will go and fuck someone at work and he will feel good about it.
And so it turns out that cheating is when something is done behind your back and when your significant other does not know about it. But what if a case like those storekeepers presented itself?

Refuse? Or ask your husband or wife for permission? But what to do if you know that you will be misunderstood and that by asking this question you will create a family scandal and then at least leave this job. Or should I bring my wife to work for this event?

And it turns out that it’s easier to just say nothing to your significant other and just be fine spend time without breaking away from the team.
And so it turns out that Not only the men in that warehouse think so, but also the women. They, too, on the one hand, condemn betrayal as such, but it is in this particular case that they make an exception for themselves. They say this is not treason. This is something else. What I’m ready to say and ask. But he knows for sure that he will not be understood correctly.

[FUCKYAMATERITY]

Have you cheated on local representatives of the fair sex?
And how did you come to this, if so)

I will answer for non-local representatives. There are true ones, that’s for sure, but their motivation is not the same. He looks at you, flows and desires, but will never change. There may be a really serious moral attitude, and it’s a little funny when you know about her depraved adventures or even had one yourself.
I had mistresses without complexes, they simply loved this business, marriage or cohabitation was only an external brake. They were only afraid that he would find out, but there were no internal restrictions. And there are those that are written right on the source code: but I am destined for someone else, and I will be faithful to him forever. You can’t ride up to such a mare, only after a tragedy and comforting her like a widow, and then without guarantees.

[FUCKYAMATERITY]

Your avatar is very fascinating and convincing. Where are you on it? In the foreground or in the background?

What’s the difference? And I don’t remember myself)) There is a video with it, I’ll add it to the screenshots topic

[sensitive]

I didn’t cheat on any of my friends, I was cheated on, that happened. It all depends on the person.

[Hair shirt]

I will answer for non-local representatives. There are true ones, that’s for sure, but their motivation is not the same. He looks at you, flows and desires, but will never change. Maybe she has a really serious moral attitude, and it’s a little funny when you know about her depraved adventures or even had one yourself.
I had mistresses without complexes, they just loved this business, marriage or cohabitation was only an external brake. They were only afraid that he would find out, but there were no internal restrictions. And there are those that are written right on the source code: but I am destined for someone else, and I will be faithful to him forever. You can’t ride up to such a mare, only after a tragedy and comforting her like a widow, and then without guarantees.

I think it’s all about the sensuality of women. After all, many women receive various psychological traumas on this basis at the beginning of regular sexual activity. Someone is terribly afraid of getting pregnant and cannot relax from this. Some people don’t get an orgasm. Some people only have it with certain partners. Someone is too fixated on masturbation, which she has been accustomed to almost since childhood.

At the beginning of puberty, girls are all the same. They all flow from one thought. They are all initially ready to receive a full orgasm during full sex. But some external factors make their own adjustments and as a result, something went wrong. And the girl is indifferent to sex. No, in public she of course makes faces and plays along, but in reality everything is dry THERE. And this is the most reliable indicator. For men, this is an erection, and for women, this is when it begins to flow. If it doesn’t flow, it’s about the same thing as if a man didn’t get it on someone.

Well, so...
There are a number of women who are similar to men in their sensuality . For example, a guy can easily stand on someone in public transport. Well, there’s a tight dress, boobs out, tight leggings - and bam! Boner!
So these women are also capable of this - they saw an athletic and handsome man - and bam! Just wring out your panties!
And I think that these are the women who cheat. That is, they just love this business and are like those men who are alcoholics.

They simply cannot resist the temptation, knowing in advance how good it will be right now and what kind of buzz she will get if she agrees. And she knows one hundred percent that she will enjoy it.
I think this is exactly the case.
And it’s not about some kind of morality or anything else. It’s just all about the normal sensuality of this or that woman.

Somewhere out there, it was not for nothing that clitorises were removed from girls. Because if there is no pleasure, there is no betrayal!

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they didn’t quite understand me that way, I thought that he was a friend but he thought differently and had completely different views

So I didn’t understand, Did you have sex with him or not?