[quote="᠌ ᠌ ᠌᠌ ᠌ ᠌ ᠌ ᠌ ᠌" post_id=219133 time=1687769225 user_id=18850] Does your life have meaning? [/quote] And the same. .. Live until death. "Only those who take vitamins Survive until death. Everyone take your vitamins!!"
[quote=March post_id=330769 time=1706861096 user_id=11571] [quote=" ᠌ ᠌ ᠌᠌ ᠌ ᠌ ᠌ ᠌ ᠌" post_id=219133 time=1687769225 user_id=18850] Does your life have meaning? [/quote] nOr else... Live to death. "Only those who take vitamins Will live to death. Everyone take your vitamins!!" [/quote]
It turns out that the whole point of your life is in vitamins?
[quote="᠌ ᠌ ᠌᠌ ᠌ ᠌ ᠌ ᠌ ᠌" post_id=330772 time=1706861246 user_id=18850] [quote=March post_id=330769 time=1706861096 user_id=11571] [quote="᠌ ᠌ ᠌᠌ ᠌ ᠌ ᠌ ᠌ ᠌" post_id=219133 time=1687769225 user_id=18850] Do you have the meaning of your life? [/quote] And then... Live to death. "Only those who take vitamins You’ll live until you die. Everyone take your vitamins!!" [/quote]
It turns out that the whole point of your life is in vitamins? n[/quote]This is from Obraztsov. Oratorio "Vitamins" from "An Extraordinary Concert" I don’t delve that deeply into the meaning of life.
᠌ ᠌ ᠌᠌ ᠌ ᠌ ᠌ ᠌ ᠌: ↑26 Jun 2023, 02:00
I’m not asking about goals at the moment))) I’m wondering if anyone has thought about whether there is meaning in their life? If so, which one, and if not, then why is this happening? Who is to blame for the meaninglessness of his existence? What should we do about this or will it do just fine?
The point is to simply live... the way you were born... while solving some problems and not bothering yourself on problems. Millions of people built socialism-communism...and where is that socialism? But this does not mean at all that they lived incorrectly and their existence was meaningless
[quote="᠌ ᠌ ᠌᠌ ᠌ ᠌ ᠌ ᠌ ᠌" post_id=219147 time=1687770050 user_id=18850] I’m not asking about goals at the moment))) I’m wondering if anyone has thought about whether there is meaning in their life? If so, which one, and if not, then why is this happening? Who is to blame for the meaninglessness of his existence? What should we do about this or will it do just fine? [/quote] The point is to simply live... the way you were born... while solving some problems and not bothering yourself on problems. Millions of people built socialism-communism...and where is that socialism? But this does not mean at all that they lived incorrectly and their existence was meaningless
᠌ ᠌ ᠌᠌ ᠌ ᠌ ᠌ ᠌ ᠌: ↑02 Feb 2024, 04:26
It turns out you can live and not bother?
Yes.. .I already have more years in the back than in the front...youthful maximalism, giving a fuck and wrapping snot on your fist because of the meaning of life are all in the past
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[quote="᠌ ᠌ ᠌᠌ ᠌ ᠌ ᠌ ᠌ ᠌" post_id=330857 time=1706876787 user_id=18850] It turns out you can live and not bother? [/quote] Yes.. .I already have more years in the back than in the front...youthful maximalism, giving a fuck and wrapping snot on your fist because of the meaning of life are all in the past
Yes, that’s all I am joyful that I will convey the whole meaning of my belly))
All these questions of the meaning of life, one way or another, rest on truth and authenticity - desires, views, interests and everything else.
Are you ready to give your life for your true "beliefs"?
If not, then it is not true.
This is a belief.
Let them live with this for years.
Belief is a very thing in itself, and grows out of subjective reality, like most meanings for each individual.
But even the insane have a meaning in life.
Truth cannot always be understood rationally. Logic works well in analysis, not in the search for truth. Perhaps, in wording.
And truth can be known through feelings. Somewhere on emotions. And sometimes on obstacles. Those. in practice.
Obstacles indicate the falsity...of the path, goals, methods.
But as Carlson once said: "Calm, only calm!".
So what is the difference between beliefs and true meanings?
Beliefs break against reality in the most uncomfortable situations, but the true rushes on...
[quote="᠌ ᠌ ᠌᠌ ᠌ ᠌ ᠌ ᠌ ᠌" post_id=219133 time=1687769225 user_id=18850] If there is, which one? [/quote] Yes, that’s all I am joyful that I will convey the whole meaning of my belly))
All these questions of the meaning of life, one way or another, rest on truth and authenticity - desires, views, interests and everything else. Are you ready to give your life for your true "beliefs"? If not, then it is not true. This is a belief. Let them live with this for years. Belief is a very thing in itself, and grows out of subjective reality, like most meanings for each individual.
But even the insane have a meaning in life. Truth cannot always be understood rationally. Logic works well in analysis, not in the search for truth. Perhaps, in wording.
And truth can be known through feelings. Somewhere on emotions. And sometimes on obstacles. Those. in practice. Obstacles indicate the falsity...of the path, goals, methods. But as Carlson once said: "Calm, only calm!".
So what is the difference between beliefs and true meanings? Beliefs break against reality in the most uncomfortable situations, but the true rushes on...
The meaning of life is a very broad concept.
I, for example, cannot define it for myself.
From my point of view, since life is finite, and after that there is nothing, then there is no special meaning in it, you just live for some goals, determined by attachments and desires, and that’s all.
The meaning of life is a very broad concept. I, for example, cannot define it for myself. From my point of view, since life is finite, and after that there is nothing, then there is no special meaning in it, you just live for some goals, determined by attachments and desires, and that’s all.
[quote="᠌ ᠌ ᠌᠌ ᠌ ᠌ ᠌ ᠌ ᠌" post_id=219133 time=1687769225 user_id=18850] If there is, which one? [/quote] The psychiatrist accepts those who have found the meaning of life without a queue.
Remember how Tsoi wrote in the song “My friends always march through life. And they stop only at beer stalls.”
I don’t claim that this is the meaning of life for the majority, but for many. Although I think that in today’s realities, the second part of this line would have been different for Tsoi. Beer stalls are no longer relevant today
Remember how Tsoi wrote in the song “My friends always march through life. And they stop only at beer stalls.” I don’t claim that this is the meaning of life for the majority, but for many. Although I think that in today’s realities, the second part of this line would have been different for Tsoi. Beer stalls are no longer relevant today :)
I think that after many years, and maybe even at the end of life... everyone will understand the meaning of their life, namely why they came to this earth.
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I think that after many years, and maybe even at the end of life... everyone will understand the meaning of their life, namely why they came to this earth.
So the fact of the matter is that when you live, the meaning seems to be the same, but after death, whatever one may say, the meaning will be completely different.
When a very close person dies, at first you don’t even realize it, you don’t take this fact for granted. And at first, you remember very well what the person close to you looked like, you remember the details of his face down to the smallest detail.
How she looked, how she smiled. Do you remember what she said, how she joked, how she laughed at other jokes. You remember her voice very well. Sometimes you even catch yourself thinking that you hear her voice, literally in a matter of seconds, but it seems that her voice really sounded.
And when you go into her room, it seems that you can hear her smell, because you still remember how she smelled.
But time passes, and to your horror you begin to forget "details". You can no longer smell her when you walk into her room. You just forgot what she smelled like. Then you don’t even hear her voice, because you forget what it sounds like. No, you would recognize her voice from a thousand others if you heard this voice in the crowd, but unfortunately, it will never sound again.
And then you realize with horror that you are starting to forget the details of her face. In general, of course, you remember, but you no longer remember the details, the mole, or the wrinkles around the eyes when she smiled.
And in the end you are left with just a name from your loved one and nothing else. And another little thing from her. Often a trinket that was worth nothing during her life, but now it is the most expensive thing in the world for me, because it is the MEMORY of her.
For me, the meaning of life is simply to live and remember her. Because when I die, my beloved will not even have a name left. Nobody will remember her name anymore.
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So the fact of the matter is that when you live, the meaning seems to be the same, but after death, whatever one may say, the meaning will be completely different. When a very close person dies, at first you don’t even realize it, you don’t take this fact for granted. And at first, you remember very well what the person close to you looked like, you remember the details of his face down to the smallest detail. How she looked, how she smiled. Do you remember what she said, how she joked, how she laughed at other jokes. You remember her voice very well. Sometimes you even catch yourself thinking that you hear her voice, literally in a matter of seconds, but it seems that her voice really sounded. And when you go into her room, it seems that you can hear her smell, because you still remember how she smelled. But time passes, and to your horror you begin to forget "details". You can no longer smell her when you walk into her room. You just forgot what she smelled like. Then you don’t even hear her voice, because you forget what it sounds like. No, you would recognize her voice from a thousand others if you heard this voice in the crowd, but unfortunately, it will never sound again. And then you realize with horror that you are starting to forget the details of her face. In general, of course, you remember, but you no longer remember the details, the mole, or the wrinkles around the eyes when she smiled. And in the end you are left with just a name from your loved one and nothing else. And another little thing from her. Often a trinket that was worth nothing during her life, but now it is the most expensive thing in the world for me, because it is the MEMORY of her. For me, the meaning of life is simply to live and remember her. Because when I die, my beloved will not even have a name left. Nobody will remember her name anymore.
[quote=Sorcerer post_id=332348 time=1707213761 user_id=21115] Everyone has the same meaning -"Born, grow old, die" That’s the whole meaning of life. We were born to die. [/quote] How primitive everything is.... It’s like in a cemetery: date of birth - date of death.... But what about the years lived , life itself ?
Shy Baby: ↑06 Feb 2024, 03:54
How primitive everything is....It’s like in a cemetery: date of birth - date of death....But what about the years lived, life itself?
You cannot take your goals to another world. And you will be forgotten over time. Well, or once a year, for show, they’ll remember with a glass of vodka.
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[quote="Shy Baby" post_id=332382 time=1707220465 user_id=95] How primitive everything is....It’s like in a cemetery: date of birth - date of death....But what about the years lived, life itself? [/quote]You cannot take your goals to another world. And you will be forgotten over time. Well, or once a year, for show, they’ll remember with a glass of vodka.
Shy Baby: ↑06 Feb 2024, 03:54
How primitive everything is....It’s like in a cemetery: date of birth - date of death....But what about the years lived, life itself?
How difficult it is, and at the same time, how difficult it is - the whole meaning, the whole life is just in this line, between the dates of life and death on the monument. But how we live through this period: whether it’s good or bad, that’s how we will be remembered.
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[quote="Shy Baby" post_id=332382 time=1707220465 user_id=95] How primitive everything is....It’s like in a cemetery: date of birth - date of death....But what about the years lived, life itself? [/quote]
How difficult it is, and at the same time, how difficult it is - the whole meaning, the whole life is just in this line, between the dates of life and death on the monument. But how we live through this period: whether it’s good or bad, that’s how we will be remembered.
Sorcerer: ↑06 Feb 2024, 03:58
And you will be forgotten over time. Well, or once a year, for show, they’ll remember you with a glass of vodka.
You’ve probably never lost someone very close to you. And this is very good. God forbid, as they say.
It’s just that in life, after the loss of a very close person, everything becomes different and different. And it doesn’t matter anymore, neither your position in society, nor an expensive car, nor money. No matter how much I have, I will never get my beloved back.
And the only thing that makes me happy is that I never saved on her, but tried to make sure that she had everything, well, to the best of my modest capabilities.
And about "remember" someone who has passed away, so for this it is not necessary to go to the cemetery on memorial days and remember there with a glass of vodka.
I always remember my love for no reason. I just remember that’s all. It’s even more comfortable for me to walk alone in the places where she and I have been, in our favorite places: in the park, on the embankment, etc. And I remember her, how we had fun here.
And on cemetery, to my shame, I don’t really like coming to her. There you just want to howl because nothing can be returned or changed.
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[quote=Sorcerer post_id=332383 time=1707220729 user_id=21115] And you will be forgotten over time. Well, or once a year, for show, they’ll remember you with a glass of vodka. [/quote]
You’ve probably never lost someone very close to you. And this is very good. God forbid, as they say. It’s just that in life, after the loss of a very close person, everything becomes different and different. And it doesn’t matter anymore, neither your position in society, nor an expensive car, nor money. No matter how much I have, I will never get my beloved back. And the only thing that makes me happy is that I never saved on her, but tried to make sure that she had everything, well, to the best of my modest capabilities. And about "remember" someone who has passed away, so for this it is not necessary to go to the cemetery on memorial days and remember there with a glass of vodka. I always remember my love for no reason. I just remember that’s all. It’s even more comfortable for me to walk alone in the places where she and I have been, in our favorite places: in the park, on the embankment, etc. And I remember her, how we had fun here. And on cemetery, to my shame, I don’t really like coming to her. There you just want to howl because nothing can be returned or changed.
Through the fog
Away from the confusion of the soul we rush to other worlds
There is no more
Love that keeps many on earth
There is no hope
There is a point of no return from dreams
Fly to the light of a mysterious star
Sail in the silver of the lunar seas
The sun will send its wind after us
Sail on the waves into that ocean
What is called immortality
Perhaps
We are naive, and there are no other orbits of fate anywhere
Perhaps
We will not find a route in the darkness to where time sleeps nThere is a point of no return from a dream
And you and I were able to pass it
Through the fog Away from the confusion of the soul we rush to other worlds There is no more Love that keeps many on earth There is no hope There is a point of no return from dreams Fly to the light of a mysterious star Sail in the silver of the lunar seas The sun will send its wind after us Sail on the waves into that ocean What is called immortality Perhaps We are naive, and there are no other orbits of fate anywhere Perhaps We will not find a route in the darkness to where time sleeps nThere is a point of no return from a dream And you and I were able to pass it
Shy Baby: ↑06 Feb 2024, 03:54
How primitive everything is....It’s like in a cemetery: date of birth - date of death....But what about the years lived, life itself?
You can’t take your goals to another world. And you will be forgotten over time. Well, or once a year, for show, they’ll remember with a glass of vodka.
...,You don’t need your own goals in the afterlife! You MUST strive to fulfill them during your life.
And after death...yes, only memory will remain from each of us. Well, this is natural... Years will pass and there will be nothing left of us at all: no memory, no grave... These are the realities...
Do you often remember your grandparents? What about great-grandmothers? And now I remember... And I even restored the grave, installed a sign of my great-great-grandfather... Alas, I no longer know the father of my great-great-grandfather...
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[quote=Sorcerer post_id=332383 time=1707220729 user_id=21115] [quote="Shy Baby" post_id= 332382 time=1707220465 user_id=95] How primitive everything is....It’s like in a cemetery: date of birth - date of death....But what about the years lived, life itself? [/ quote]You can’t take your goals to another world. And you will be forgotten over time. Well, or once a year, for show, they’ll remember with a glass of vodka. [/quote] ...,You don’t need your own goals in the afterlife! You MUST strive to fulfill them during your life. And after death...yes, only memory will remain from each of us. Well, this is natural... Years will pass and there will be nothing left of us at all: no memory, no grave... These are the realities... Do you often remember your grandparents? What about great-grandmothers? And now I remember... And I even restored the grave, installed a sign of my great-great-grandfather... Alas, I no longer know the father of my great-great-grandfather...
Shy Baby: ↑06 Feb 2024, 04:18
You don’t need your own goals in the afterlife! You MUST strive to fulfill them during your life.
And after death...yes, only memory will remain from each of us. Well, this is natural... Years will pass and there will be nothing left of us at all: no memory, no grave... These are the realities...
Do you often remember your grandparents? What about great-grandmothers? And I remember... And I even restored the grave, installed a sign for my great-great-grandfather... Alas, I no longer know my great-great-grandfather’s father...
Don’t you think that such lofty topics are not welcome on the forum? This is not the place to touch on highly moral topics of communication. They won’t understand, and this is not a place where there is only lust around, etc.
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[quote="Shy Baby" post_id=332395 time=1707221915 user_id=95] You don’t need your own goals in the afterlife! You MUST strive to fulfill them during your life. And after death...yes, only memory will remain from each of us. Well, this is natural... Years will pass and there will be nothing left of us at all: no memory, no grave... These are the realities... Do you often remember your grandparents? What about great-grandmothers? And I remember... And I even restored the grave, installed a sign for my great-great-grandfather... Alas, I no longer know my great-great-grandfather’s father... [/quote] Don’t you think that such lofty topics are not welcome on the forum? This is not the place to touch on highly moral topics of communication. They won’t understand, and this is not a place where there is only lust around, etc.
Don’t look for meaning, but first for truth. If you know the truth, you will realize the meaning.
In Christianity, for example, there is such a thing as "blindness of the spiritual eyes".
In ancient Greek mythology - the work of Sisyphus.
This is retribution for lying or denying the truth.
This is how some people slide into an existential vacuum.
It is impossible to see the truth only with physical eyes. This is knowledge. Not an inference or a belief. Not information, but knowledge of "how it should be", "how it is correct". But not as a certain society, a person, requires... but in general, as each of us knows, that Tuesday is followed by Wednesday, that the seasons change.
Knowledge is like a state, like deep understanding. Often even illogical.
Why does a horse need a pedal drive if the horse is not disabled?
And you know for sure that in same-sex relationships, fertilization and childbearing are naturally impossible if they live in isolation from modern civilization.
But these are all primitive examples.
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Don’t look for meaning, but first for truth. If you know the truth, you will realize the meaning.
In Christianity, for example, there is such a thing as "blindness of the spiritual eyes". In ancient Greek mythology - the work of Sisyphus. This is retribution for lying or denying the truth. This is how some people slide into an existential vacuum.
It is impossible to see the truth only with physical eyes. This is knowledge. Not an inference or a belief. Not information, but knowledge of "how it should be", "how it is correct". But not as a certain society, a person, requires... but in general, as each of us knows, that Tuesday is followed by Wednesday, that the seasons change.
Knowledge is like a state, like deep understanding. Often even illogical. Why does a horse need a pedal drive if the horse is not disabled? And you know for sure that in same-sex relationships, fertilization and childbearing are naturally impossible if they live in isolation from modern civilization. But these are all primitive examples.
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