Question straight to the point! Do you think that sexual freedom is the same for men and women?

[Marion]

The question is asked in the title. I believe that the common idea in some circles that a man can allegedly hang out with women, but a woman should be faithful to only one man, is fundamentally incorrect. And that the stupid saying “lock and key” has long outlived its usefulness. I want to post this same picture on my "favorite" ABF forum (I think many people know about it).

key_gun.jpg

[Serg_A]

This is already nature. Nothing can be done about it. Just like men. While a man’s testosterone is going through the roof, he will fight for a woman, and as soon as it begins to steadily decline, he exposes his ass to other men who are more modest in exposing their ass to a woman. Also nature.

This is not nature, but we ourselves break the laws of nature with our own hands. From time immemorial, men have fought for women, but for some time now, they have started filling our heads with propaganda that fagots, lesbians, and same-sex marriage are good. I never tolerated this and will not tolerate this herd of minorities. Living here in the west, these minorities rule the whole west. A fag sits on a fag and trashes the fag, and if you don’t greet them, you’re an outcast!!!
So women here are equal, and more often than not, they control men and there is nothing that cannot be said to them. If you say anything against it, you are an outcast.
Nature has endowed a woman to give birth to children and a man to support a family, but alas, everyone lost it. Now if you earn less than your wife or girlfriend, you are a loser in her eyes, and she will leave you. I’ve already gone through all this and I know what I’m writing.
There should be harmony in a family, and support for each other, and not bickering and scandals.
And what the men were crushing now is not visible to the naked eye! !! Exposing your assholes for intercourse... ugh, how disgusting...

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You need to start sex education, if not in kindergarten, then in elementary school. When children are inquisitive, they are interested in everything, and not when their hormones are raging. Moreover, on the one hand, you don’t recognize your body, you look at boys completely differently than yesterday, and on the other hand, you want to feel like an adult. Today and now, and not when you turn 18 and legally cease to be a child.

In our time, we took anatomy in the 8th grade, and nothing it was fine. And they didn’t live badly, and there was enough for everyone. Yes, of course, there were gays and lesbians, but they were not visible, they did not get into all the cracks, as is happening now. What does sex education have to do with it, for what!? There was no poppy seed for 100 years and there was no famine. And now you see, we need to teach this.

Wolffr, you are wrong here. Gays and lesbians and women themselves have nothing to do with it, do you think they have great freedoms? For the umpteenth time I ask the question, don’t you see that people are being pitted against each other, don’t you understand that someone needs you to be alone against everyone, and even your wife, so that she is not your friend, but only " a partner" who will dump you if things suddenly go wrong. Gays and lesbians are against everyone, women against men, men against women, whites against blacks, people of color against whites, and every nation is its own Aryan. What is unclear here!?

[rat poison]

And now, you see, we need to teach this.

It is necessary, no doubt. Because the information field has changed. And it became much easier to manipulate people.
Because even conventionally 10-15 years ago the number of deviations was not different. There was a different awareness of people, but at the same time the information was more accurate, because it was closer to some primary source. And the further it goes, the more interesting it becomes. For Uncle Vasya told Aunt Tamara, she was at the entrance to the grandmothers, and they were to someone else... and each added his own details...

[Wolffr]

Wolffr, you are wrong here. Gays and lesbians and women themselves have nothing to do with it, do you think they have great freedoms? For the umpteenth time I ask the question, don’t you see that people are being pitted against each other, don’t you understand that someone needs you to be alone against everyone, and even your wife, so that she is not your friend, but only " a partner" who will dump you if things suddenly go wrong. Gays and lesbians are against everyone, women against men, men against women, whites against blacks, people of color against whites, and every nation is its own Aryan. What is not clear here!?

so I immediately wrote:

This is not nature, but we ourselves break the laws of nature with our own hands. From time immemorial, men have fought for women, but for some time now, they have started filling our heads with propaganda that fagots, lesbians, same-sex marriage are good.

We need to immediately ask the question, who benefits from this!? and everything will fall into place, but again, what does a person need a brain for? While there was an Iron Curtain, sex and everything connected with it was not so widespread, but what now...
https://www.tiktok.com/@natiga91/video/ ... 3331252485

[Serg_A]

a healthy man has been sitting on the forum for 2 hours already and arguing with a girl))

not with a girl, but with an adult woman!!!

And she’s still a girl!

[The passage]

This is already nature. Nothing can be done about it. Just like men. While a man’s testosterone is going through the roof, he will fight for a woman, and as soon as it begins to steadily decline, he exposes his ass to other men who are more modest in exposing their ass to a woman. Also nature.

This is not nature, but we ourselves break the laws of nature with our own hands. From time immemorial, men have fought for women, but for some time now, they have started filling our heads with propaganda that fagots, lesbians, and same-sex marriage are good. I never tolerated this and will not tolerate this herd of minorities. Living here in the west, these minorities rule the whole west. A fag sits on a fag and trashes the fag, and if you don’t greet them, you’re an outcast!!!
So women here are equal, and more often than not, they control men and there is nothing that cannot be said to them. If you say anything against it, you are an outcast.
Nature has endowed a woman to give birth to children and a man to support a family, but alas, everyone lost it. Now if you earn less than your wife or girlfriend, you are a loser in her eyes, and she will leave you. I have already gone through all this and I know what I am writing.
In a family there should be harmony and support for each other, and not bickering and scandals.

There is a very old joke:

- A man asks God for wealth.
He asks for a day, two, three, a week, a month, a year... God couldn’t stand it and from heaven he says:
- Man, you ask for wealth, but you yourself do nothing. At least buy a lottery ticket.

What are you doing to start a family? Yesterday, today and tomorrow.

You write correctly about harmony, but it will not arise out of nowhere. Family is hard work. People unite when they are already adults. They lived before in a different family, they were raised differently, they have different worldviews, worldviews, educations, their own habits, plans, dreams, and they have different genders. Various anatomy, physiology, psychology. Everything is different for them, and in order to achieve harmony, you need to change somewhere, give in, adapt, and most importantly, accept your partner for who he is.

Here I read complaints about women, that one really wanted a child, the other wanted to get married and get hooked up in Moscow. This is fine. All normal people want something and do something for it. Only the infantile ones dream of paradise in a hut.
Personally, I am building a house. For reasons beyond my control, construction has been delayed for an indefinite period, but I continue to build it. Well, romance with poetry under the starry sky is great, but we live in a material world where we have to pay for everything. That’s why you have to be partly mercantile and partly bitchy. But I won’t have a second life. I’m a doctor, I know. Yes, and this one can break at any moment. Oh, I have children. They need to be put on their feet.
You have a good memory. You remember grievances from many years ago. You have a broad outlook and you almost soberly assess the situation in the world and society, but this should not stop you from building your family.
There are several topics here about the fact that a man wants a family. One writes that he has nothing, his job is not profitable, and he himself is lazy. And, another admires his homosexual adventures. And why are they writing a topic about family? Are they waiting for women to line up with them and propose marriage, and then they will have everything on a silver platter? This will not happen.
I myself love to cry, to complain about fate, about the evil, imperfect and, of course, unfair world. But, I want a man who will hug me and say that these are all emotions, we’ll come up with something and I will feel calmer, easier, and we will build a house together. Well, I don’t need a man who will complain and cry next to me. For this I have a friend.
No, of course he will have problems, like everyone else, and I will always support him. But these will be specific problems, and not demagoguery, verbiage and philosophical nonsense.

I understand you, but what are you doing to start a family?

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sex and everything connected with it was not so common, and what now...

Sex has always been there. They talked about him less, but this is not a plus, but a big minus.

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

a healthy man has been sitting on the forum for 2 hours already and arguing with a girl))

not with a girl, but with an adult woman!!!

And she’s still a girl!

no, not a girl anymore.. gave birth to two . Does my status somehow change the attitude towards me?

[The passage]

This is already nature. Nothing can be done about it. Just like men. While a man’s testosterone is going through the roof, he will fight for a woman, and as soon as it begins to steadily decline, he exposes his ass to other men who are more modest in exposing their ass to a woman. Also nature.

This is not nature, but we ourselves break the laws of nature with our own hands. From time immemorial, men have fought for women, but for some time now, they have started filling our heads with propaganda that fagots, lesbians, and same-sex marriage are good. I never tolerated this and will not tolerate this herd of minorities. Living here in the west, these minorities rule the whole west. A fag sits on a fag and trashes the fag, and if you don’t greet them, you’re an outcast!!!
So women here are equal, and more often than not, they control men and there is nothing that cannot be said to them. If you say anything against it, you are an outcast.
Nature has endowed a woman to give birth to children and a man to support a family, but alas, everyone lost it. Now if you earn less than your wife or girlfriend, you are a loser in her eyes, and she will leave you. I’ve already gone through all this and I know what I’m writing.
There should be harmony in a family, and support for each other, and not bickering and scandals.
And what the men were crushing now is not visible to the naked eye! !! Exposing your assholes for intercourse... ugh, how disgusting...

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You need to start sex education, if not in kindergarten, then in elementary school. When children are inquisitive, they are interested in everything, and not when their hormones are raging. Moreover, on the one hand, you don’t recognize your body, you look at boys completely differently than yesterday, and on the other hand, you want to feel like an adult. Today and now, and not when you turn 18 and legally cease to be a child.

In our time, we took anatomy in the 8th grade, and nothing it was fine. And they didn’t live badly, and there was enough for everyone. Yes, of course, there were gays and lesbians, but they were not visible, they did not get into all the cracks, as is happening now. What does sex education have to do with it, for what!? There was no poppy seed for 100 years and there was no famine. And now you see, we need to teach this.

Wolffr, you are wrong here. Gays and lesbians and women themselves have nothing to do with it, do you think they have great freedoms? For the umpteenth time I ask the question, don’t you see that people are being pitted against each other, don’t you understand that someone needs you to be alone against everyone, and even your wife, so that she is not your friend, but only " a partner" who will dump you if things suddenly go wrong. Gays and lesbians are against everyone, women against men, men against women, whites against blacks, people of color against whites, and every nation is its own Aryan. What is not clear here!?

This is the ancient principle of conquerors. Divide and rule.

[Serg_A]

We must immediately ask the question, who benefits from this!? and everything will fall into place, but again, what does a person need a brain for? While there was an Iron Curtain, sex and everything connected with it was not so widespread, but what now...
https://www.tiktok.com/@natiga91/video/ ... 3331252485

Strange, but your link was opened only through VPN. Yes, I am familiar with such ideas, it is interesting. But in fact, this benefits all lazy fat cats, as discussed above here.

[Wool]

no, not a girl anymore.. she gave birth to two. Does my status somehow change the attitude towards me?

It was recently in the news - in Britain they have been searching for three days already; a 56-year-old girl was lost in the central park of Manchester

[Wolffr]

There is a very old joke:

- A man asks God for wealth.
He asks for a day, two, three, a week, a month, a year... God couldn’t stand it and from heaven he says:
- Man, you ask for wealth, but you yourself do nothing. At least buy a lottery ticket.

What are you doing to start a family? Yesterday, today and tomorrow.

You write correctly about harmony, but it will not arise out of nowhere. Family is hard work. People unite when they are already adults. They lived before in a different family, they were raised differently, they have different worldviews, worldviews, educations, their own habits, plans, dreams, and they have different genders. Various anatomy, physiology, psychology. Everything is different for them and in order to achieve harmony, you need to change somewhere, give in, adapt and most importantly accept your partner for who he is.

Here I read complaints about women who are alone I really wanted a child, the other wanted to get married and settle down in Moscow. This is fine. All normal people want something and do something for it. Only the infantile ones dream of paradise in a hut.
Personally, I am building a house. For reasons beyond my control, construction has been delayed for an indefinite period, but I continue to build it. Well, romance with poetry under the starry sky is great, but we live in a material world where we have to pay for everything. That’s why you have to be partly mercantile and partly bitchy. But I won’t have a second life. I’m a doctor, I know. Yes, and this one can break at any moment. Oh, I have children. They need to be put on their feet.
You have a good memory. You remember grievances from many years ago. You have a broad outlook and you almost soberly assess the situation in the world and society, but this should not stop you from building your family.
There are several topics here about the fact that a man wants a family. One writes that he has nothing, his job is not profitable, and he himself is lazy. And, another admires his homosexual adventures. And why are they writing a topic about family? Are they waiting for women to line up with them and propose marriage, and then they will have everything on a silver platter? This will not happen.
I myself love to cry, to complain about fate, about the evil, imperfect and, of course, unfair world. But, I want a man who will hug me and say that these are all emotions, we’ll come up with something and I will feel calmer, easier, and we will build a house together. Well, I don’t need a man who will complain and cry next to me. For this I have a friend.
No, of course he will have problems, like everyone else, and I will always support him. But these will be specific problems, and not demagoguery, verbiage and philosophical nonsense.

I understand you, but what are you doing to start a family?

I have a very sober attitude towards life and family, although I never created a family, and again, because of who I did not create, again a Woman. I wanted a family, I tried, I cared, I did everything, and when she said that the child was born from me, I did everything to live together, but alas, she didn’t need that, she needed a child so that she could hide behind them and not work, but only have money and that’s all. The child was completely turned against me; when he was little, I took him to my home for weekends or holidays. And on one such day, a child told me, “Mom said that you are not my dad.” I was shocked.
I have done and am doing a lot. I meet women and talk. Literally 1.5 years ago, I met a woman, we dated, I helped her as much as I could, but alas, she didn’t give me a penny, since I don’t work. Yes, I have a disability, I broke my back, now I can’t work, but I can do everything around the house, I went and took her to work, picked her up from work, whatever anyone says, I tried my best to start a family, as they say, without children. Age.
In the end, she hinted to me what was what. My heart goes out to her, but she made a mess, and why did all this start? I was sick, I was sick, I ate everything in my life.
I’m not a storyteller, but I’m telling you what happened to me.

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

no, not a girl anymore.. she gave birth to two. Does my status somehow change the attitude towards me?

It was recently in the news - in Britain they have been searching for three days already; a 56-year-old girl was lost in the central park of Manchester

class))

[The passage]

Literally 1.5 years ago, I met a woman, we dated,

You proposed to her, and she refused you?

[Wolffr]

no, not a girl anymore.. she gave birth to two. Does my status somehow change the attitude towards me?

It was recently in the news - in Britain they have been searching for three days already; a 56-year-old girl was lost in the central park of Manchester

now everything is possible, the surgeon will mend it and turn it from a woman into a girl)))

[rat poison]

not with a girl, but with an adult woman!!!

And she’s still a girl!

no, not a girl anymore.. gave birth to two . Does my status somehow change the attitude towards me?

You understand that for some, juggling concepts is just a way to try to hurt and offend ? As a rule, if you call such a character a man, he will become proud, and if you pay attention to the fact that he is suffocating, and, drawing conclusions about his age from this, it is quite fair to call him a “grandfather,” then he will also be “offended.” Naya"right there...

[Wolffr]

Literally 1.5 years ago, I met a woman, we dated,

You proposed to her, but she refused you?

Yes, and with such a grin, "I have already buried three," although all three are alive. Here’s how to understand it..., damn you’re trying, you’re doing poorly, you’re not doing anything, you’re lazy,

[rat poison]

Literally 1.5 years ago, I met a woman, we dated,

You proposed to her, and did she refuse you?

damn you’re trying, bad, not doing anything, lazy,

Or maybe you should have tried in the wrong direction? Different people need different care, one size does not fit all. Some people need care in the style of: "It’s cold today, put on a hat" and "Have you eaten?" and others, so that you are strong and literally carried in your arms. Maybe she needed other care, and not how you imagine it?

[Serg_A]

But, I want a man who will hug me and say that these are all emotions, we’ll come up with something and I will feel calmer, easier, and we will build a house with him together. Well, I don’t need a man who will complain and cry next to me. For this I have a friend.
No, of course he will have problems, like everyone else, and I will always support him. But these will be specific problems, and not demagoguery, verbiage and philosophical nonsense

Marinka, it’s better to forget, there was a bright future under the Soviet Union, now there is none (neither one nor the other), there is no god, no damn thing, no love either. Enjoy the current moment, tomorrow may not come, someone is there and it’s good with him today - enjoy, tomorrow you’ll get bored - send him to hell - you’ll find someone else.)

[Wolffr]

You proposed to her, and she refused you?

damn you’re trying, it’s bad, you’re not doing anything, you’re lazy,

Or maybe it’s necessary Was it trying in the wrong direction? Different people need different care, one size does not fit all. Some people need care in the style of: "It’s cold today, put on a hat" and "Have you eaten?" and others, so that you are strong and literally carried in your arms. Maybe she needed other care, and not as you imagine her?

Should I start writing a 100-page documentary book, I wrote it as it is, no need here to add something for me.

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Serg_A, Marina didn’t find Soviet Union most likely

[Marion]

Marion, abortions have a very negative impact on a woman’s health, not to mention depressive episodes after an abortion.

So I write that this is the most extreme case, when it’s just a situation no way to take it out. Or a child (Gods forbid anyone experiences such horror) from a maniac rapist. And about the bans, I agree with Marinka, instead of legal abortions there will be criminal, it is not clear under what conditions and what kind of "specialists" will do them. The West has already encountered this, but they also like to step on the rake many times, like everywhere else - the state of Alabama is an example of this.

[rat poison]

damn you try, bad, you don’t do anything, lazy,

Or maybe you should have tried in the wrong direction? Different people need different care, one size does not fit all. Some people need care in the style of: "It’s cold today, put on a hat" and "Have you eaten?" and others, so that you are strong and literally carried in your arms. Maybe she needed other care, and not as you imagine her?

Should I start writing a 100-page documentary book, I wrote it as it is, no need here to add something for me.

If you have something to write, write, but it’s useless to start getting nervous) once you’ve already written something- then go to the forum - be prepared for answers and reactions to your thoughts. And if you’re not ready, then why bother speaking out?

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

Marion, abortions have a very negative impact on a woman’s health, not to mention depressive episodes after an abortion.

So I write that this is the most extreme case, when there is simply no way to get rid of the situation. Or a child (Gods forbid anyone experiences such horror) from a maniac rapist. And about the bans, I agree with Marinka, instead of legal abortions there will be criminal, it is not clear under what conditions and what kind of "specialists" will do them. The West has already encountered this, but they also like to step on the rake many times, like everywhere else - the state of Alabama is an example of this.

I didn’t write that abortions are necessary prohibit... I wrote that promiscuity often leads to STDs and abortions. That’s why I don’t understand those who are advocating a sex revolution here... it has already come a long time ago. Why advocate for her?

[Wolffr]

If you have something to write, write, but it’s useless to get nervous) once you’ve written something on the forum, be prepared for answers and reactions to your thoughts. And if you are not ready, then why did you speak out?

You are a strange person, should I pour out my whole soul to you or what!? You will know a lot, you will grow old quickly!!!

[The passage]

But, I want a man who will hug me and say that these are all emotions, we’ll come up with something and I will feel calmer, easier, and we will build a house with him together. Well, I don’t need a man who will complain and cry next to me. For this I have a friend.
No, of course he will have problems, like everyone else, and I will always support him. But these will be specific problems, and not demagoguery, verbiage and philosophical nonsense

Marinka, it’s better to forget, there was a bright future under the Soviet Union, now there is none (neither one nor the other), there is no god, no damn thing, no love either. Enjoy the current moment, tomorrow may not come, someone is there and it’s good with him today - enjoy, tomorrow you’ll get bored - send him to hell - you’ll find someone else.)

I was born when the Soviet Union no longer existed. I didn’t catch it, but I read and watched films. The idea was good, but it was distorted to the point of insanity. The only thing they praise for is price stability and the absence of unemployment. Ideally, one could work on the mistakes and build something new, but better. The country had a developed economy, science, education, medicine and a strong army. Now we are not even a developing country, but a steadily degrading one, both economically and spiritually. Perhaps people also correspond to current reality. It’s probably more difficult for men now than for us. It’s difficult for decent people, it’s difficult for honest, kind and smart people, too.
Now are ideal conditions for the vile, unscrupulous, and cruel.
We all live one day at a time now, but it’s not always possible to enjoy the current moment. There is love, you are wrong to think that it does not exist. It’s just that we often pass by problems just beyond the mountains. Yes, and it’s difficult to trust a person in our world, where deception is the norm. I don’t trust men, they don’t trust me. That’s how we live.

[Marion]

I didn’t write that abortions should be banned.. I wrote that promiscuity leads to STDs and abortions often. That’s why I don’t understand those who are advocating a sex revolution here... it has already come a long time ago. Why advocate for it?

The sex revolution took place and ended a long time ago. Now, as after an ordinary revolution, repressions have begun.

Living here in the west, these minorities rule the whole west. A fag sits on a fag and trashes the fag, and if you don’t greet them, you’re an outcast!!!

My children, thank the gods, managed to leave for the West ( conditional, really), and for some reason they don’t see anything like that. I myself was forced to leave Belarus. Maybe we are looking in the wrong place for these very...? Or not carefully enough?

[Wolffr]

My children, thank the gods, managed to leave for the West (conditionally, really), and for some reason they don’t see anything like this. I myself was forced to leave Belarus. Maybe we are looking in the wrong place for these very...? Or not carefully enough?

take off your rose-colored glasses, maybe you’ll see later!!!

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

I didn’t write that abortion should be banned.. I wrote that promiscuity leads to STDs and abortions often. That’s why I don’t understand those who are advocating a sex revolution here... it has already come a long time ago. Why advocate for it?

The sex revolution took place and ended a long time ago. Now, as after an ordinary revolution, repressions have begun.

what specific repressions have taken place?.. in my opinion, now people live much freer than ever. You can do whatever you want, the main thing is not to say anything special.
I am not against promiscuity in sexual behavior, the main thing is that it does not concern me and my family.. and I am against when they impose their opinion on me and indicate that it is the only one true.

[Wolffr]

The sex revolution took place and ended a long time ago. Now, as after an ordinary revolution, repressions have begun.

In the West, this sex revolution continues. Already in kindergarten, they want to divide children according to gender plan, boy into girl and vice versa.
https:// youtube.com/shorts/PDK3Y0EaO24?feature=share

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[rat poison]

If you have something to write - write, but it’s useless to get nervous) since you’ve already written something on the forum - be prepared for answers and reactions to yours thoughts. And if you are not ready, then why did you speak out?

You are a strange person, should I pour out my whole soul to you or what!? You will know a lot, you will grow old quickly!!!

Listen, your soul, as you put it, didn’t give up, honestly)
nAnd one more point: the fact that you lived under Tsar Pea does not automatically make you smart, remember this)) You don’t need this condescension:

Serg_A, Marina most likely did not find the Soviet Union

take off your rose-colored glasses, maybe you’ll see later!!!

Experience is not measured by the number of times you have lived years. This quantity, judging by some users, only measures the lack of flexibility of mind and tolerance for other people’s opinions.

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what specific repressions took place?.. in my opinion, now people live much freer than ever. You can do whatever you want, the main thing is not to tell anything in particular.

And you can, by the way, vice versa) tell, but not create)) and then, too, nothing for this will not happen))
But if you create and tell... Then yes) but even then, it will not be repression, but public censure. And then, most likely, there will be 2 camps: those who condemn and those who support. Well, another option is possible if what is being done is a violation of the Criminal Code. But I don’t consider this repression - this is punishment for a crime.

[The passage]

Well, another option is possible if what is being done is a violation of the Criminal Code. But I don’t consider this repression - this is punishment for a crime.

And the fact is that we have crimes and violations that were just yesterday crimes and violations were not taken into account and this happens with regularity - does this not alarm you?

[rat poison]

Well, another option is possible if what is being done is a violation of the Criminal Code. But I don’t consider this repression - this is punishment for a crime.

And the fact is that we have crimes and violations that were just yesterday crimes and violations were not taken into account and this happens with regular consistency - does this not alarm you?

For example? Just not to be unfounded, but to consider a special case.

[Tanya]

And it is very characteristic that these appearances have one clear direction. Not a very good focus, in my opinion.

[rat poison]

Tania, why are you also talking in riddles? Call a spade a spade, otherwise we’re talking about different things.

[The passage]

Well, another option is possible if what is being done is a violation of the Criminal Code. But I don’t consider this repression - this is punishment for a crime.

And the fact is that we have crimes and violations that were just yesterday crimes and violations were not taken into account and this happens with regular consistency - does this not alarm you?

For example? Just so as not to be unfounded, but to consider a special case.

I am not aware of the laws specifically, but I saw a scandal on at some exhibition, there was a rainbow, and someone noticed that there were LGBT colors and there was an administrative penalty for propaganda. If it’s important for you, I can look for the laws adopted recently. Insanity, which are not necessary in principle, but infringe on people’s rights.
Personally, the laws related to smoking bother me. I don’t use public transport, but you can’t smoke at stops, only 30 meters away, in my opinion, and so people move away, smoke and there are mountains of bulls. It was necessary to first create a smoking area. I was traveling on a train and gave 250 rubles to the conductor to smoke in the vestibule. It was prohibited by law. You can’t do it at the station. I went out onto the platform and lit a cigarette and the police came up and warned me not to. They didn’t fine me, but they said they would fine me next time. Smoking is currently prohibited on the balcony. I understand that people throw butts and it can fly into the window, but smokers have ashtrays on the balcony, and those who throw butts don’t care about fines.
Law with the symbol Ш, studded wheels. When it was introduced, I saw with my own eyes how traffic police officers measured stickers with a ruler, and then drew up protocols for those whose badges were not the same size as the law. By the way, this law was repealed a year or two later. But people’s nerves were frayed because they had to buy not just a sticker, but a sticker of a certain size.
This is all done for a reason. I don’t have an ashtray in my car and I carry a paper cup of water where I throw my cigarette butts. Now you can’t throw a cigarette out the window. Are the roads cleaner? No, but I’m already really afraid.
You yourself probably know about the laws on various kinds of insults to someone or something. And, there, even liking pictures on the Internet is considered an insult. What are these extremes for? Yes, so that people feel like nobody in this state.

[rat poison]

And the fact that we have crimes and violations that just yesterday were not considered crimes and violations and this happens with regular consistency - this is for you not alarming?

For example? Just so as not to be unfounded, but to consider a special case.

I am not aware of the laws specifically, but I saw a scandal on at some exhibition, there was a rainbow, and someone noticed that there were LGBT colors and there was an administrative penalty for propaganda. If it’s important for you, I can look for the laws adopted recently. Insanity, which are not necessary in principle, but infringe on people’s rights.
Personally, the laws related to smoking bother me. I don’t use public transport, but you can’t smoke at stops, only 30 meters away, in my opinion, and so people move away, smoke and there are mountains of bulls. It was necessary to first create a smoking area. I was traveling on a train and gave 250 rubles to the conductor to smoke in the vestibule. It was prohibited by law. You can’t do it at the station. I went out onto the platform and lit a cigarette and the police came up and warned me not to. They didn’t fine me, but they said they would fine me next time. Smoking is currently prohibited on the balcony. I understand that people throw butts and it can fly into the window, but smokers have ashtrays on the balcony, and those who throw butts don’t care about fines.
Law with the symbol Ш, studded wheels. When it was introduced, I saw with my own eyes how traffic police officers measured stickers with a ruler, and then drew up protocols for those whose badges were not the same size as the law. By the way, this law was repealed a year or two later. But people’s nerves were frayed because they had to buy not just a sticker, but a sticker of a certain size.
This is all done for a reason. I don’t have an ashtray in my car and I carry a paper cup of water where I throw my cigarette butts. Now you can’t throw a cigarette out the window. Are the roads cleaner? No, but I’m already really afraid.
You yourself probably know about the laws on various kinds of insults to someone or something. And, there, even liking pictures on the Internet is considered an insult. What are these extremes for? Yes, so that people feel like nobody in this state.

Wait. Of all this, only the first point is relevant to the topic initially discussed. Let’s stop there. I consider the law banning propaganda itself to be appropriate. To some extent, it makes it possible to limit the freedom of “ideological gays” to poke the average person in the face with their “ideological gayness.” But it doesn’t prohibit being gay. At the same time, no one obliged to promote “naturalness” as the only possible orientation. If you want to be a homosexual, be one and nothing will happen to you for it.
In your example, it’s more about local distortions. But they are sufficient when applied to the old laws. "Law, what a drawbar..."

[Tanya]

Tania , why are you also talking in riddles? Call a spade a spade, otherwise suddenly we are talking about different things.

It may be about different things, but living under the clouds is becoming easier and easier, but in the basements mostly "low"

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

And the fact that we have crimes and violations that just yesterday were not considered crimes and violations and this happens with regular consistency - does it not alarm you?

For example? Just so as not to be unfounded, but to consider a special case.

I am not aware of the laws specifically, but I saw a scandal on at some exhibition, there was a rainbow, and someone noticed that there were LGBT colors and there was an administrative penalty for propaganda. If it’s important for you, I can look for the laws adopted recently. Insanity, which are not necessary in principle, but infringe on people’s rights.
Personally, the laws related to smoking bother me. I don’t use public transport, but you can’t smoke at stops, only 30 meters away, in my opinion, and so people move away, smoke and there are mountains of bulls. It was necessary to first create a smoking area. I was traveling on a train and gave 250 rubles to the conductor to smoke in the vestibule. It was prohibited by law. You can’t do it at the station. I went out onto the platform and lit a cigarette and the police came up and warned me not to. They didn’t fine me, but they said they would fine me next time. Smoking is currently prohibited on the balcony. I understand that people throw butts and it can fly into the window, but smokers have ashtrays on the balcony, and those who throw butts don’t care about fines.
Law with the symbol Ш, studded wheels. When it was introduced, I saw with my own eyes how traffic police officers measured stickers with a ruler, and then drew up protocols for those whose badges were not the same size as the law. By the way, this law was repealed a year or two later. But people’s nerves were frayed because they had to buy not just a sticker, but a sticker of a certain size.
This is all done for a reason. I don’t have an ashtray in my car and I carry a paper cup of water where I throw my cigarette butts. Now you can’t throw a cigarette out the window. Are the roads cleaner? No, but I’m already really afraid.
You yourself probably know about the laws on various kinds of insults to someone or something. And, there, even liking pictures on the Internet is considered an insult. What are these extremes for? Yes, in order for people to feel like nobody in this state.

of course I would argue about smokers.. because they smoke everywhere, not caring about fines.. and for some reason those around them must breathe in their exhaust. Here is a neighbor sitting smoking out of his window, the wind blows all the smoke out of my window, I have already asked him for a better way to smoke outside, nothing has changed.

[Serg_A]

The sex revolution took place and ended a long time ago. Now, as after an ordinary revolution, repressions have begun.

In the West, this sex revolution continues. Already in kindergarten, they want to divide children according to gender plan, boy into girl and vice versa.
https:// youtube.com/shorts/PDK3Y0EaO24?feature=share

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Wolffrdamn, what a horror! Well, let me still make an assumption: these moronic laws are used only as repression against undesirables. Most do not touch.

Sent after 7 minutes 21 seconds:

And the fact is that we have crimes and violations that were not considered crimes and violations yesterday, and this happens with regular consistency - doesn’t it worry you?

For example? Just so as not to be unfounded, but to consider a special case.

I am not aware of the laws specifically, but I saw a scandal on at some exhibition, there was a rainbow, and someone noticed that there were LGBT colors and there was an administrative penalty for propaganda. If it’s important for you, I can look for the laws adopted recently. Insanity, which are not necessary in principle, but infringe on people’s rights.
Personally, the laws related to smoking bother me. I don’t use public transport, but you can’t smoke at stops, only 30 meters away, in my opinion, and so people move away, smoke and there are mountains of bulls. It was necessary to first create a smoking area. I was traveling on a train and gave 250 rubles to the conductor to smoke in the vestibule. It was prohibited by law. You can’t do it at the station. I went out onto the platform and lit a cigarette and the police came up and warned me not to. They didn’t fine me, but they said they would fine me next time. Smoking is currently prohibited on the balcony. I understand that people throw butts and it can fly into the window, but smokers have ashtrays on the balcony, and those who throw butts don’t care about fines.
Law with the symbol Ш, studded wheels. When it was introduced, I saw with my own eyes how traffic police officers measured stickers with a ruler, and then drew up protocols for those whose badges were not the same size as the law. By the way, this law was repealed a year or two later. But people’s nerves were frayed because they had to buy not just a sticker, but a sticker of a certain size.
This is all done for a reason. I don’t have an ashtray in my car and I carry a paper cup of water where I throw my cigarette butts. Now you can’t throw a cigarette out the window. Are the roads cleaner? No, but I’m already really afraid.
You yourself probably know about the laws on various kinds of insults to someone or something. And, there, even liking pictures on the Internet is considered an insult. What are these extremes for? Yes, so that people feel like nobody in this state.

Marinka, I’ll say one thing, smoking laws have nothing to do with caring about someone’s health, the blame, as always, is money - competition between tobacco industry and e-cigarette manufacturers.

[The passage]

For example? Just so as not to be unfounded, but to consider a special case.

I am not aware of the laws specifically, but I saw a scandal on at some exhibition, there was a rainbow, and someone noticed that there were LGBT colors and there was an administrative penalty for propaganda. If it’s important for you, I can look for the laws adopted recently. Insanity, which are not necessary in principle, but infringe on people’s rights.
Personally, the laws related to smoking bother me. I don’t use public transport, but you can’t smoke at stops, only 30 meters away, in my opinion, and so people move away, smoke and there are mountains of bulls. It was necessary to first create a smoking area. I was traveling on a train and gave 250 rubles to the conductor to smoke in the vestibule. It was prohibited by law. You can’t do it at the station. I went out onto the platform and lit a cigarette and the police came up and warned me not to. They didn’t fine me, but they said they would fine me next time. Smoking is currently prohibited on the balcony. I understand that people throw butts and it can fly into the window, but smokers have ashtrays on the balcony, and those who throw butts don’t care about fines.
Law with the symbol Ш, studded wheels. When it was introduced, I saw with my own eyes how traffic police officers measured stickers with a ruler, and then drew up protocols for those whose badges were not the same size as the law. By the way, this law was repealed a year or two later. But people’s nerves were frayed because they had to buy not just a sticker, but a sticker of a certain size.
This is all done for a reason. I don’t have an ashtray in my car and I carry a paper cup of water where I throw my cigarette butts. Now you can’t throw a cigarette out the window. Are the roads cleaner? No, but I’m already really afraid.
You yourself probably know about the laws on various kinds of insults to someone or something. And, there, even liking pictures on the Internet is considered an insult. What are these extremes for? Yes, so that people feel like nobody in this state.

Wait. Of all this, only the first point is relevant to the topic initially discussed. Let’s stop there. I consider the law banning propaganda itself to be appropriate. To some extent, it makes it possible to limit the freedom of “ideological gays” to poke the average person in the face with their “ideological gayness.” But it doesn’t prohibit being gay. At the same time, no one obliged to promote “naturalness” as the only possible orientation. If you want to be a homosexual, be one and nothing will happen to you for it.
In your example, it’s more about local distortions. But they are sufficient when applied to the old laws. "The law, what a drawbar..."

And, what difference does it make to you whether there are distortions in places or not, if you will naturally be punished for a decent amount ? Last year on the beach I witnessed such a picture. Dad and child, and they have an umbrella for the sun. Multicolored. Dad opened it, and his friend or acquaintance, it doesn’t matter, says: “What are you doing? These are the colors of the gay flag, you’ll be attracted,” and looks away. And there are police, a patrol is on the way. Not to his liking, I think. It just happened that way. His friend smiles. Apparently he was joking, but the grief dad turned pale, blushed, turned green, and folded his umbrella and put it away. Oh, the child won’t understand what’s what. An unpleasant situation, vile in its essence. But people are intimidated and I understand this dad perfectly.
I also understand you and people like you. People who have purple on those around them. Some people don’t smoke and what do they care about smokers? Others don’t drive. Some people don’t hang out on the Internet, and if they do, they don’t comment or like anything. What do they care about senile laws? Then, of course, when the next law affects them personally and somewhere they have to fork out money or maybe even sit in a monkey barn, only then will they be indignant and not before. Don’t be offended, but my hut’s position is on the edge, very convenient. For the time being, for the time being. Then, of course, it may come back to haunt you, or it may not come back to haunt you. If we get lucky.

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

I don’t know the laws specifically, but I saw a scandal at some exhibition, there was a rainbow, and someone I noticed that there were LGBT colors and there was an administrative penalty for propaganda. If it’s important for you, I can look for the laws adopted recently. Insanity, which are not necessary in principle, but infringe on people’s rights.
Personally, the laws related to smoking bother me. I don’t use public transport, but you can’t smoke at stops, only 30 meters away, in my opinion, and so people move away, smoke and there are mountains of bulls. It was necessary to first create a smoking area. I was traveling on a train and gave 250 rubles to the conductor to smoke in the vestibule. It was prohibited by law. You can’t do it at the station. I went out onto the platform and lit a cigarette and the police came up and warned me not to. They didn’t fine me, but they said they would fine me next time. Smoking is currently prohibited on the balcony. I understand that people throw butts and it can fly into the window, but smokers have ashtrays on the balcony, and those who throw butts don’t care about fines.
Law with the symbol Ш, studded wheels. When it was introduced, I saw with my own eyes how traffic police officers measured stickers with a ruler, and then drew up protocols for those whose badges were not the same size as the law. By the way, this law was repealed a year or two later. But people’s nerves were frayed because they had to buy not just a sticker, but a sticker of a certain size.
This is all done for a reason. I don’t have an ashtray in my car and I carry a paper cup of water where I throw my cigarette butts. Now you can’t throw a cigarette out the window. Are the roads cleaner? No, but I’m already really afraid.
You yourself probably know about the laws on various kinds of insults to someone or something. And, there, even liking pictures on the Internet is considered an insult. What are these extremes for? Yes, so that people feel like nobody in this state.

Wait. Of all this, only the first point is relevant to the topic initially discussed. Let’s stop there. I consider the law banning propaganda itself to be appropriate. To some extent, it makes it possible to limit the freedom of “ideological gays” to poke the average person in the face with their “ideological gayness.” But it doesn’t prohibit being gay. At the same time, no one obliged to promote “naturalness” as the only possible orientation. If you want to be a homosexual, be one and nothing will happen to you for it.
In your example, it’s more about local distortions. But they are sufficient when applied to the old laws. "The law, what a drawbar..."

And, what difference does it make to you whether there are distortions in places or not, if you will naturally be punished for a decent amount ? Last year on the beach I witnessed such a picture. Dad and child, and they have an umbrella for the sun. Multicolored. Dad opened it, and his friend or acquaintance, it doesn’t matter, says: “What are you doing? These are the colors of the gay flag, you’ll be attracted,” and looks away. And there are police, a patrol is on the way. Not to his liking, I think. It just happened that way. His friend smiles. Apparently he was joking, but the grief dad turned pale, blushed, turned green, and folded his umbrella and put it away. Oh, the child won’t understand what’s what. An unpleasant situation, vile in its essence. But people are intimidated and I understand this dad perfectly.
I also understand you and people like you. People who have purple on those around them. Some people don’t smoke and what do they care about smokers? Others don’t drive. Some people don’t hang out on the Internet, and if they do, they don’t comment or like anything. What do they care about senile laws? Then, of course, when the next law affects them personally and somewhere they have to fork out money or maybe even sit in a monkey barn, only then will they be indignant and not before. Don’t be offended, but my hut’s position is on the edge, very convenient. For the time being, for the time being. Then, of course, it may come back to haunt you, or it may not come back to haunt you. Depending on your luck.

smokers have this attitude: “the house is on the edge” and “I don’t care about everyone else.” I have already encountered rudeness so many times only on this basis.

[rat poison]

What difference does it make whether there are distortions in places or not, if you are naturally punished for a decent amount?

There is a difference. It’s one thing if it’s a local king who commits arbitrariness. They can fuck someone like that for show, if necessary. And it’s completely different if the law is purposefully written in such a way as to bend everyone and everything.
One case is absolutely nothing for statistics. It’s like, having met one girl with low social responsibility on your life’s path, you then authoritatively beat yourself in the chest and declare that “all women are whores.” But it’s never like that.

I understand you too and people like you. People who look purple on those around them.

How cleverly you put me under the same brush as everyone else, huh?)) You see... I don’t look purple on those around me. I don’t give a fuck about those who don’t deserve anything else. By default, in my factory settings, all people are worthy of respect. And only then, some of them, by their actions and behavior, put a tick in the “disrespect” box opposite themselves.

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Wait. Of all this, only the first point is relevant to the topic initially discussed. Let’s stop there. I consider the law banning propaganda itself to be appropriate. To some extent, it makes it possible to limit the freedom of “ideological gays” to poke the average person in the face with their “ideological gayness.” But it doesn’t prohibit being gay. At the same time, no one obliged to promote “naturalness” as the only possible orientation. If you want to be a homosexual, be one and nothing will happen to you for it.
In your example, it’s more about local distortions. But they are sufficient when applied to the old laws. "The law, what a drawbar..."

And, what difference does it make to you whether there are distortions in places or not, if you will naturally be punished for a decent amount ? Last year on the beach I witnessed such a picture. Dad and child, and they have an umbrella for the sun. Multicolored. Dad opened it, and his friend or acquaintance, it doesn’t matter, says: “What are you doing? These are the colors of the gay flag, you’ll be attracted,” and looks away. And there are police, a patrol is on the way. Not to his liking, I think. It just happened that way. His friend smiles. Apparently he was joking, but the grief dad turned pale, blushed, turned green, and folded his umbrella and put it away. Oh, the child won’t understand what’s what. An unpleasant situation, vile in its essence. But people are intimidated and I understand this dad perfectly.
I also understand you and people like you. People who have purple on those around them. Some people don’t smoke and what do they care about smokers? Others don’t drive. Some people don’t hang out on the Internet, and if they do, they don’t comment or like anything. What do they care about senile laws? Then, of course, when the next law affects them personally and somewhere they have to fork out money or maybe even sit in a monkey barn, only then will they be indignant and not before. Don’t be offended, but my hut’s position is on the edge, very convenient. For the time being, for the time being. Then, of course, it may come back to haunt you, or it may not come back to haunt you. Depending on your luck.

smokers have this attitude: “the house is on the edge” and “I don’t care about everyone else.” I have already encountered rudeness so many times only on this basis.

This is not even the position of smokers, but simply the position of a boor and a redneck. Before doing something, a normally socialized person must analyze his action from different points of view. Not only:"What will happen to me if I get caught?", but also, at a minimum,"What will it be like for those around me?".

[King Bird]

Sex education should begin, if not in kindergarten, then in elementary school. When children are inquisitive, interested in everything, and not when their hormones are raging.

Yeah, it happened, in elementary school they introduced such a subject, or " valeology" was called, or even openly"sex education". Now try to offer to teach something like this, you’ll probably lose your job altogether. Because it is loose and contrary to the patriarchal spirituality of the people.

While there was the Iron Curtain, sex and everything connected with it was not so widespread, but what now...

Do you propose to return the Iron Curtain? How are you going to visit your homeland? Or is it better to love from afar?

Well, another option is possible if what is being done is a violation of the Criminal Code. But I don’t consider this repression - this is punishment for a crime.

And the fact is that we have crimes and violations that were not considered crimes and violations just yesterday and this happens with regular consistency - doesn’t this worry you?

For example? Just so as not to be unfounded, but to consider a special case.

There have already been a fair number of special cases in the topic, there are worse examples, but they can’t even be discussed anymore , because the article. Or just the same moronic cases as with that multi-colored umbrella. I looked at the sneakers and was horrified - holy shit, yellow and blue (and there was information that someone was fined for similar colors). I was leafing through an old flash drive with pop music for passengers in the car, and threw it away, because I found a couple of Serduchka’s songs (also something spectacular). Is this not enough?

[rat poison]

There have already been a fair number of special cases in the topic, there are worse examples, but they can’t even be discussed anymore, because the article. Or just the same moronic cases as with that multi-colored umbrella. I looked at the sneakers and was horrified - holy shit, yellow and blue (and there was information that someone was fined for similar colors). I was leafing through an old flash drive with pop music for passengers in the car, and threw it away, because I found a couple of Serduchka’s songs (also something spectacular). Isn’t that enough?

The fact that you are "pointed" does not mean that there is such a law))
There are other special cases. A person can die during sexual intercourse, for example. Are you going to give up sex now?

[King Bird]

The fact that you are "pointed" does not mean that there is such a law))
There are other special cases. A person can die during sexual intercourse, for example. Are you going to give up sex now?

I won’t give up sex. I would be careful not to wear a yellow and blue jacket or a backpack of the same colors. And I advise you the same. At least in the current period of time.

[Wolffr]

Are you proposing to return the Iron Curtain? How are you going to visit your homeland? Or is it better to love from afar?

I would love to return to the late 70s and early 80s, to the Soviet Union. And so it is now that you can’t get to Germany from Russia just like that, it’s the other way around. I know firsthand.

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Wolffr, damn, what a horror! Well, let me still make an assumption: these moronic laws are used only as repression against undesirables. Most don’t touch them.

mostly everyone, look at a lot of such videos on YouTube.... and it’s very deplorable. I suspect this all comes from"minorities"... they write laws for themselves.

[rat poison]

I won’t give up sex. I would be careful not to wear a yellow and blue jacket or a backpack of the same colors. And I advise you the same. At least in the current period of time

I tell you about Thomas, you tell me about Erema...

[King Bird]

I would love to return to the late 70s and early 80s, to the Soviet Union. And so it is now that you can’t get to Germany from Russia just like that, it’s the other way around. I know firsthand.

Yes, we did not value stability and calm (even relative ones). But you can’t turn the minced meat back. I can’t say anything about Germany, but they come from the Czech Republic, although they have to take connecting flights through other countries. You can fly through Serbia, Turkey, Azerbaijan. There are no problems at passport control. It’s a bit expensive, it’s true, and inconvenient, but whoever wants it is looking for opportunities.

[The passage]

Wait. Of all this, only the first point is relevant to the topic initially discussed. Let’s stop there. I consider the law banning propaganda itself to be appropriate. To some extent, it makes it possible to limit the freedom of “ideological gays” to poke the average person in the face with their “ideological gayness.” But it doesn’t prohibit being gay. At the same time, no one obliged to promote “naturalness” as the only possible orientation. If you want to be a homosexual, be one and nothing will happen to you for it.
In your example, it’s more about local distortions. But they are sufficient when applied to the old laws. "The law, what a drawbar..."

And, what difference does it make to you whether there are distortions in places or not, if you will naturally be punished for a decent amount ? Last year on the beach I witnessed such a picture. Dad and child, and they have an umbrella for the sun. Multicolored. Dad opened it, and his friend or acquaintance, it doesn’t matter, says: “What are you doing? These are the colors of the gay flag, you’ll be attracted,” and looks away. And there are police, a patrol is on the way. Not to his liking, I think. It just happened that way. His friend smiles. Apparently he was joking, but the grief dad turned pale, blushed, turned green, and folded his umbrella and put it away. Oh, the child won’t understand what’s what. An unpleasant situation, vile in its essence. But people are intimidated and I understand this dad perfectly.
I also understand you and people like you. People who have purple on those around them. Some people don’t smoke and what do they care about smokers? Others don’t drive. Some people don’t hang out on the Internet, and if they do, they don’t comment or like anything. What do they care about senile laws? Then, of course, when the next law affects them personally and somewhere they have to fork out money or maybe even sit in a monkey barn, only then will they be indignant and not before. Don’t be offended, but my hut’s position is on the edge, very convenient. For the time being, for the time being. Then, of course, it may come back to haunt you, or it may not come back to haunt you. Depending on your luck.

smokers have this attitude: “the house is on the edge” and “I don’t care about everyone else.” I have already encountered rudeness so many times only on this basis.

Smokers exist, have been and will be. If they are fined by law, essentially nothing will change. You yourself understand this very well. We need to offer an alternative. Not e-cigarettes, not vapes. And, instill the fashion for a beautiful body, a healthy lifestyle and a subscription to the fitness center for free or at a good discount. And, at the same time, make anti-smoking products affordable, and not exorbitantly expensive, as they are now. The younger generation will follow the trends and will not smoke, and those who smoke may quit. Perhaps, but not yet. People smoke and we need to do as many more smoking rooms as possible. So that there really is a specially designated place for this. The problem can be solved, but no one is concerned about it.

[Wolffr]

I would love to return to the late 70s and early 80s, to the Soviet Union. And so it is now that you can’t get to Germany from Russia just like that, it’s the other way around. I know firsthand.

Yes, we did not value stability and calm (even relative ones). But you can’t turn the minced meat back. I can’t say anything about Germany, but they come from the Czech Republic, although they have to take connecting flights through other countries. You can fly through Serbia, Turkey, Azerbaijan. There are no problems at passport control. It’s a bit expensive, it’s true, and inconvenient, but whoever wants it, is looking for opportunities.

I lived in Kazakhstan, and everything was fine until the Kazakhs started making noise, so we decided to go Germany, and so it is for me ....(((

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There are smokers, there have been and there will be smokers. If they are fined by law, essentially nothing will change. You yourself understand this very well. We need to offer an alternative, not e-cigarettes, not vapes. for a beautiful body, for a healthy lifestyle and a subscription to the fitness center for free or at a good discount. And, at the same time, make anti-smoking products affordable, and not at exorbitant prices, as now. The younger generation will follow the trends and will not smoke. They might quit smoking. Perhaps, but not yet. People smoke and we need to do as many more smoking rooms as possible. So that there really is a specially designated place for this. The problem can be solved, but no one is concerned about it.

In Germany they also took on smokers and their lifestyle, and how they smoked is still smoked, a ban in public places, closed spaces. You can smoke outside in the cafe. So cigarettes have become very expensive. This is how they buy tobacco and make roll-your-own cigarettes, and I also buy tobacco and cartridges, make cigarettes at home, it seems to be cheaper. A pack of cigarettes costs 7-10 euros, but there are not 20, but 19 cigarettes.

[The passage]

What difference does it make whether there are distortions in places or not, if you are naturally punished for a decent amount?

There is a difference . It’s one thing if it’s a local king who commits arbitrariness. They can fuck someone like that for show, if necessary. And it’s completely different if the law is purposefully written in such a way as to bend everyone and everything.
One case is absolutely nothing for statistics. It’s like, having met one girl with low social responsibility on your life’s path, you then authoritatively beat yourself in the chest and declare that “all women are whores.” But it’s never like that.

I understand you too and people like you. People who look purple on those around them.

How cleverly you put me under the same brush as everyone else, huh?)) You see... I don’t look purple on those around me. I don’t give a fuck about those who don’t deserve anything else. By default, in my factory settings, all people are worthy of respect. And only then, some of them, by their actions and behavior, put a tick in the “disrespect” box opposite themselves.

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And, what difference does it make to you whether there are distortions in places or not, if you will naturally be punished for a decent amount? Last year on the beach I witnessed such a picture. Dad and child, and they have an umbrella for the sun. Multicolored. Dad opened it, and his friend or acquaintance, it doesn’t matter, says: “What are you doing? These are the colors of the gay flag, you’ll be attracted,” and looks away. And there are police, a patrol is on the way. Not to his liking, I think. It just happened that way. His friend smiles. Apparently he was joking, but the grief dad turned pale, blushed, turned green, and folded his umbrella and put it away. Oh, the child won’t understand what’s what. An unpleasant situation, vile in its essence. But people are intimidated and I understand this dad perfectly.
I also understand you and people like you. People who have purple on those around them. Some people don’t smoke and what do they care about smokers? Others don’t drive. Some people don’t hang out on the Internet, and if they do, they don’t comment or like anything. What do they care about senile laws? Then, of course, when the next law affects them personally and somewhere they have to fork out money or maybe even sit in a monkey barn, only then will they be indignant and not before. Don’t be offended, but my hut’s position is on the edge, very convenient. For the time being, for the time being. Then, of course, it may come back to haunt you, or it may not come back to haunt you. Depending on your luck.

smokers have this attitude: “the house is on the edge” and “I don’t care about everyone else.” I have already encountered rudeness so many times only on this basis.

This is not even the position of smokers, but simply the position of a boor and a redneck. Before doing something, a normally socialized person must analyze his action from different points of view. Not only:"What will happen to me if I get caught?", but also, at a minimum,"What will it be like for those around me?".

These are not isolated cases.

[niqk]

Bliiiiinnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!! Where has the discussion gone? AWESOME!!! And what didn’t come up! Hmm...
Well, I’ll add my 5 cents. Somehow everyone attacks others: the authorities, the capitalists, the laws, the... And somehow no one
turned on themselves. After all, everything depends on us! In real specific people! These are specific people, sitting, say, in a park on a bench, smoking a baby in a stroller and his mother. And to remark, they send it to my mother,
they say, it’s my will - I’ll do whatever I want! There is no ban on smoking outdoors! And the fact that the air as a result becomes very stale for everyone is of no concern to the smoker!.. The same motorists, without hesitation, throw various garbage out of the windows directly onto the road. At best - to the side of the road... The same summer residents set fire to last year’s grass next to their summer house in the spring, and then firefighters save them from the fire! And it’s not they who are to blame, but the wind, the grass, the sun... But not them!!! And then on some forum they dump out a wagon and a small cart of claims! To all! But not to yourself!!!
In general, isn’t it time for all of us to look at ourselves and ask: what about me personally! - did everything to make life better for all of us?!
And then - to unite and try together to correct all the shortcomings. Maybe try?