LenychSauron: ↑20 Nov 2023, 10:58
I have been divorced for quite some time, I have a 4-year-old son. I tried in vain to find the man. First, the father of a boy from my son’s group met me in kindergarten. He courted me beautifully, we actively met for about 10 days, then he had some business to do, and communication came to naught. Then my best friend introduced me to a guy. We dated for two months, lived together, everything was great, then he said that we should break up. I think okay, I’ll register on a dating site. I met another man, he also courted me beautifully, the first date was in a restaurant in Moscow City, the second at the Eiffel Tower, he was better in bed than all my exes. When he came to me and found out that I had a son, he said goodbye. Then I met another one. She brought him home, introduced him to his son, and he gave him expensive Lego. During sex he swore his love to me. The next day after morning sex he disappeared. This is why men are so anxious??? At first they court beautifully, but after sex or a couple of months of relationship, they merge badly.
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I have been divorced for quite some time, I have a 4-year-old son. I tried in vain to find the man. First, the father of a boy from my son’s group met me in kindergarten. He courted me beautifully, we actively met for about 10 days, then he had some business to do, and communication came to naught. Then my best friend introduced me to a guy. We dated for two months, lived together, everything was great, then he said that we should break up. I think okay, I’ll register on a dating site. I met another man, he also courted me beautifully, the first date was in a restaurant in Moscow City, the second at the Eiffel Tower, he was better in bed than all my exes. When he came to me and found out that I had a son, he said goodbye. Then I met another one. She brought him home, introduced him to his son, and he gave him expensive Lego. During sex he swore his love to me. The next day after morning sex he disappeared. This is why men are so anxious??? At first they look after you beautifully, but after sex or a couple of months of a relationship, they merge badly.
Find yourself a nerd rag if you are a log. He will be your slave and you will blow his brains out)))
[quote=LenychSauron post_id=291184 time=1700506708 user_id=21933] I have been divorced for quite some time, I have a 4-year-old son. I tried in vain to find the man. First, the father of a boy from my son’s group met me in kindergarten. He courted me beautifully, we actively met for about 10 days, then he had some business to do, and communication came to naught. Then my best friend introduced me to a guy. We dated for two months, lived together, everything was great, then he said that we should break up. I think okay, I’ll register on a dating site. I met another man, he also courted me beautifully, the first date was in a restaurant in Moscow City, the second at the Eiffel Tower, he was better in bed than all my exes. When he came to me and found out that I had a son, he said goodbye. Then I met another one. She brought him home, introduced him to his son, and he gave him expensive Lego. During sex he swore his love to me. The next day after morning sex he disappeared. This is why men are so anxious??? At first they court beautifully, but after sex or a couple of months of relationship, they merge badly. [/quote][quote=LenychSauron post_id=291184 time=1700506708 user_id=21933] I have been divorced for quite some time, I have a 4-year-old son. I tried in vain to find the man. First, the father of a boy from my son’s group met me in kindergarten. He courted me beautifully, we actively met for about 10 days, then he had some business to do, and communication came to naught. Then my best friend introduced me to a guy. We dated for two months, lived together, everything was great, then he said that we should break up. I think okay, I’ll register on a dating site. I met another man, he also courted me beautifully, the first date was in a restaurant in Moscow City, the second at the Eiffel Tower, he was better in bed than all my exes. When he came to me and found out that I had a son, he said goodbye. Then I met another one. She brought him home, introduced him to his son, and he gave him expensive Lego. During sex he swore his love to me. The next day after morning sex he disappeared. This is why men are so anxious??? At first they look after you beautifully, but after sex or a couple of months of a relationship, they merge badly. [/quote]
Find yourself a nerd rag if you are a log. He will be your slave and you will blow his brains out)))
Pierro: ↑25 Nov 2023, 02:56
a person.. just likes the process..)
if he licked Hooligan Carrie like that.. in short, she would like it..)
Perro in Spanish is a dog. And I think that your posts addressed to me remind me. And it turns out that someone is barking at me. Just why?
Although when a dog barks from behind a fence, it rarely makes any sense.
[quote=Pierro post_id=293825 time=1700909797 user_id=4666] a person.. just likes the process..) if he licked Hooligan Carrie like that.. in short, she would like it..) [/quote] Perro in Spanish is a dog. And I think that your posts addressed to me remind me. And it turns out that someone is barking at me. Just why? Although when a dog barks from behind a fence, it rarely makes any sense.
Pierro: ↑25 Nov 2023, 07:21
Do my posts offend you that much?)
No. I don’t write anything about your posts. It’s something in my posts that offends you, it’s you who react negatively to them. And not me on yours.
Did I say somewhere somewhere in relation to your posts that I didn’t like something about them?
[quote=Pierro post_id=293962 time=1700925661 user_id=4666] Do my posts offend you that much?) [/quote] No. I don’t write anything about your posts. It’s something in my posts that offends you, it’s you who react negatively to them. And not me on yours. Did I say somewhere somewhere in relation to your posts that I didn’t like something about them?
Some aggressive headline. I dare to suggest that the reason is in the vehicle itself. Maybe he behaves in such a way that men run away?
Or maybe not. Here, on this wave, by the way, an incident from my personal life came up:
In ancient times, when ICQ was still widespread and communication actively took place there. I met a girl on one of the city forums. Communication on the forum turned into communication on icq. We communicated for a long time, easily, and could correspond at night. Soul mates. Then we called each other. We exchanged photos - she’s cute, but not my type. I continued to meet, but I didn’t see the point in it, so I somehow dodged the whole time.
About six months of such correspondence communication, this girl calls, they say they have a corporate office, she’s not far from me, maybe I’ll invite you to visit?
I’m alone at home, of course I invited without a second thought. In general, I arrived, not drunk, but drunk. We sat, talked, drank a little wine. She took the initiative, I supported it. It all ended logically - with sex.
I woke up in the morning, assessed everything that happened yesterday and there was only one thing in my head: "well, this is not my man".
I walked around all day, thinking about all this and what to do next. As a result, I called in the evening, I don’t remember what I said verbatim, but something like “it wasn’t right.” This is where the communication stopped.
Damn, these are some lengthy stories. Although it’s much easier to tell it orally.
So what’s all this about, maybe TS has something like this? Although...
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Some aggressive headline. I dare to suggest that the reason is in the vehicle itself. Maybe he behaves in such a way that men run away? Or maybe not. Here, on this wave, by the way, an incident from my personal life came up: In ancient times, when ICQ was still widespread and communication actively took place there. I met a girl on one of the city forums. Communication on the forum turned into communication on icq. We communicated for a long time, easily, and could correspond at night. Soul mates. Then we called each other. We exchanged photos - she’s cute, but not my type. I continued to meet, but I didn’t see the point in it, so I somehow dodged the whole time. About six months of such correspondence communication, this girl calls, they say they have a corporate office, she’s not far from me, maybe I’ll invite you to visit? I’m alone at home, of course I invited without a second thought. In general, I arrived, not drunk, but drunk. We sat, talked, drank a little wine. She took the initiative, I supported it. It all ended logically - with sex. I woke up in the morning, assessed everything that happened yesterday and there was only one thing in my head: "well, this is not my man". I walked around all day, thinking about all this and [url=viewtopic.php?t=11592]what to do[/url] next. As a result, I called in the evening, I don’t remember what I said verbatim, but something like “it wasn’t right.” This is where the communication stopped. Damn, these are some lengthy stories. Although it’s much easier to tell it orally. So what’s all this about, maybe TS has something like this? Although...
[quote=Vasyanitsa post_id=293984 time=1700931931 user_id=20537] You react negatively to them [/quote] sure of this?)
[size=85][color=green]Sent after 2 minutes 34 seconds:[/color ][/size] [quote=vlasm post_id=293985 time=1700932141 user_id=21997] evaded all the time [/quote][quote=vlasm post_id=293985 time=1700932141 user_id=21997] invited, of course, without a second thought [/quote] You are somehow.. inconsistent..
[ref=#804000]hair shirt[/ref], here is a wonderful quote: [quote=Pierro post_id=288857 time=1700107818 user_id=4666] nhair shirt, and you are also aggressive..) and, judging by the last two fantasy messages, you are stupid..) [/quote] and.. You once again.. confirmed it)
Pierro: ↑25 Nov 2023, 09:45
and.. You confirmed it once again)
So which of us is aggressive and irrepressible, you or me? I didn’t touch you in any way. It is you, in turn, who are gaining rudeness, first by attacking and then accusing someone of aggressiveness. Why do you care at all who writes on this forum and how much? Where does this fuck you?
Everything is actually very simple - you don’t touch anyone and no one touches you. Well, if you threw a piece of shit at someone, then why be surprised if it hits you back?
[quote=Pierro post_id=294004 time=1700934318 user_id=4666] and.. You confirmed it once again) [/quote] So which of us is aggressive and irrepressible, you or me? I didn’t touch you in any way. It is you, in turn, who are gaining rudeness, first by attacking and then accusing someone of aggressiveness. Why do you care at all who writes on this forum and how much? Where does this fuck you? Everything is actually very simple - you don’t touch anyone and no one touches you. Well, if you threw a piece of shit at someone, then why be surprised if it hits you back?
[quote=Vasyanitsa post_id=294020 time=1700937080 user_id=20537] Why do you care at all about who writes on this forum and how much? [/quote] wonderful words))
vvm: ↑24 Nov 2023, 05:29
Not everyone, I, for example, love children and it doesn’t matter whether they are mine or not. And I know a lot of the same people.
[quote=vvm post_id=293324 time=1700832574 user_id=18147] Not everyone, I, for example, love children and it doesn’t matter whether they are mine or not. And I know a lot of the same people. [/quote]you are super! )) I agree.. and I am among them)
Pierro: ↑25 Nov 2023, 09:12
You are kind of...inconsistent..
Possibly. I’ve always been bad at writing things down. In this case, I don’t see any particular contradictions. He prevaricated - he didn’t want a meeting, he didn’t strive for it. He invited me without a second thought - he didn’t hope and didn’t mean anything more than just communication.
[quote=Pierro post_id=293987 time=1700932322 user_id=4666] You are kind of...inconsistent.. [/quote] Possibly. I’ve always been bad at writing things down. In this case, I don’t see any particular contradictions. He prevaricated - he didn’t want a meeting, he didn’t strive for it. He invited me without a second thought - he didn’t hope and didn’t mean anything more than just communication.
i.e. You don’t understand that
1. you invite a woman with her hair styled for a holiday, in new underwear, with perfectly waxed legs and pubis
2. a drunk woman who has reached the required condition, who has already realized that at a corporate party all the options do not suit her..
3. you invite her to a place where you won’t be able to escape.. but to expose the lady will be.. no, not rudeness.. you can’t even find the words..
???
[quote=vlasm post_id=294036 time=1700938733 user_id=21997]just communication[/quote] woman.. to her home.. after her corporate party..
i.e. You don’t understand that 1. you invite a woman with her hair styled for a holiday, in new underwear, with perfectly waxed legs and pubis 2. a drunk woman who has reached the required condition, who has already realized that at a corporate party all the options do not suit her.. 3. you invite her to a place where you won’t be able to escape.. but to expose the lady will be.. no, not rudeness.. you can’t even find the words.. ???
vlasm: ↑25 Nov 2023, 09:09
Some kind of aggressive headline. I dare to suggest that the reason is in the vehicle itself. Maybe he behaves in such a way that men run away?
Or maybe not. Here, on this wave, by the way, an incident from my personal life came up:
In ancient times, when ICQ was still widespread and communication actively took place there. I met a girl on one of the city forums. Communication on the forum turned into communication on icq. We communicated for a long time, easily, and could correspond at night. Soul mates. Then we called each other. We exchanged photos - she’s cute, but not my type. I continued to meet, but I didn’t see the point in it, so I somehow dodged the whole time.
About six months of such correspondence communication, this girl calls, saying they have a corporate office, she’s not far from me, maybe I’ll invite you to visit?
I’m alone at home, and of course I invited you without a second thought. In general, I arrived, not drunk, but drunk. We sat, talked, drank a little wine. She took the initiative, I supported it. It all ended logically - with sex.
I woke up in the morning, assessed everything that happened yesterday and there was only one thing in my head: "well, this is not my man".
I walked around all day, thinking about all this and what to do next. As a result, I called in the evening, I don’t remember what I said verbatim, but something like “it wasn’t right.” This is where the communication stopped.
Damn, these are some lengthy stories. Although it’s much easier to tell it orally.
So what’s all this about, maybe TS has something like this? Although...
As a rule, men sometimes say in a company - go and pick up the girls. That is, they went and met someone somewhere and then they were invited somewhere. Depending on the situation - maybe at someone’s home, or at the dacha, or at a bar, or at a club...
So there was some kind of program on this topic and journalists with a hidden camera tried to film a couple of men in the same way . Well, it’s sort of the opposite situation - a couple of girls are trying to pick up a couple of guys. Well, the males actually shied away and ran away from these girls. This is so unusual and not in our Russian mentality. Although the girls seemed nice and behaved very politely. But all the guys they stopped all tried to leave quickly.
Well, they then decided to change the topic and one girl began to pick up the guy instead of two - the result is even worse. Lonely men were simply scared and started running.
So you too, I think you were just probably very embarrassed - like, what does she want from me!? Why is she hanging on to me like that? Does he want to get married?
[quote=vlasm post_id=293985 time=1700932141 user_id=21997] Some kind of aggressive headline. I dare to suggest that the reason is in the vehicle itself. Maybe he behaves in such a way that men run away? Or maybe not. Here, on this wave, by the way, an incident from my personal life came up: In ancient times, when ICQ was still widespread and communication actively took place there. I met a girl on one of the city forums. Communication on the forum turned into communication on icq. We communicated for a long time, easily, and could correspond at night. Soul mates. Then we called each other. We exchanged photos - she’s cute, but not my type. I continued to meet, but I didn’t see the point in it, so I somehow dodged the whole time. About six months of such correspondence communication, this girl calls, saying they have a corporate office, she’s not far from me, maybe I’ll invite you to visit? I’m alone at home, and of course I invited you without a second thought. In general, I arrived, not drunk, but drunk. We sat, talked, drank a little wine. She took the initiative, I supported it. It all ended logically - with sex. I woke up in the morning, assessed everything that happened yesterday and there was only one thing in my head: "well, this is not my man". I walked around all day, thinking about all this and [url=viewtopic.php?t=11592]what to do[/url] next. As a result, I called in the evening, I don’t remember what I said verbatim, but something like “it wasn’t right.” This is where the communication stopped. Damn, these are some lengthy stories. Although it’s much easier to tell it orally. So what’s all this about, maybe TS has something like this? Although... [/quote] As a rule, men sometimes say in a company - go and pick up the girls. That is, they went and met someone somewhere and then they were invited somewhere. Depending on the situation - maybe at someone’s home, or at the dacha, or at a bar, or at a club... So there was some kind of program on this topic and journalists with a hidden camera tried to film a couple of men in the same way . Well, it’s sort of the opposite situation - a couple of girls are trying to pick up a couple of guys. Well, the males actually shied away and ran away from these girls. This is so unusual and not in our Russian mentality. Although the girls seemed nice and behaved very politely. But all the guys they stopped all tried to leave quickly.
Well, they then decided to change the topic and one girl began to pick up the guy instead of two - the result is even worse. Lonely men were simply scared and started running. So you too, I think you were just probably very embarrassed - like, what does she want from me!? Why is she hanging on to me like that? Does he want to get married?
Pierro: ↑25 Nov 2023, 11:11
i.e. You don’t understand that
1. you invite a woman with her hair styled for a holiday, in new underwear, with perfectly waxed legs and pubis
2. a drunk woman who has reached the required condition, who has already realized that at a corporate party all the options do not suit her..
3. you invite her to a place where you won’t be able to escape.. and exposing the lady will be... no, not rudeness.. I can’t even find the words..
???
I didn’t think of any of this at the time. Now, from the height of my experience, I would put everything in order and am not sure that I would have acted differently. The only difference is that before sex (when he invited or already at home) he would have indicated his position.
[quote=Pierro post_id=294040 time=1700939514 user_id=4666] i.e. You don’t understand that 1. you invite a woman with her hair styled for a holiday, in new underwear, with perfectly waxed legs and pubis 2. a drunk woman who has reached the required condition, who has already realized that at a corporate party all the options do not suit her.. 3. you invite her to a place where you won’t be able to escape.. and exposing the lady will be... no, not rudeness.. I can’t even find the words.. ??? [/quote] I didn’t think of any of this at the time. Now, from the height of my experience, I would put everything in order and am not sure that I would have acted differently. The only difference is that before sex (when he invited or already at home) he would have indicated his position.
[quote=vlasm post_id=294098 time=1700958654 user_id=21997] The only difference is that before sex (when he invited or already at home) he would have indicated his position. [/quote] that is, she would have arrived.. You’re like: now let’s drink wine for the meeting, chat and go home! right??))
Serg_A: ↑22 Nov 2023, 23:43
Kuni is taboo, crap, I have no idea!
No, Alenka guessed correctly).
My wife loves to read advertisements and also reacts to offer cunnilingus - not worth it.
Then I don’t have it from the moment it started to stand . From the first of my sexual fantasies, I thought about Kuni, I also really wanted to fuck, but in a thought experiment, if I fell in love with a very beautiful girl, and she had a twin sister like her, and the first one would only allow fucking, without cunnilingus, and the second would allow all caresses, and especially Cunnilingus, but fucking would be prohibited. I would not hesitate to marry a second wife))).
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[quote=vvm post_id=292412 time=1700734768 user_id=18147] [quote=Serg_A post_id=292338 time=1700725399 user_id= 18010] Kuni is taboo, crap, I have no idea! [/quote] No, Alenka guessed correctly). My wife loves to read advertisements and also reacts to [url=viewtopic.php?t=12476]offer[/url] cunnilingus - not worth it. [/quote] Then I don’t have it from the moment it started to stand 😁😁😁. From the first of my sexual fantasies, I thought about Kuni, I also really wanted to fuck, but in a thought experiment, if I fell in love with a very beautiful girl, and she had a twin sister like her, and the first one would only allow fucking, without cunnilingus, and the second would allow all caresses, and especially Cunnilingus, but fucking would be prohibited. I would not hesitate to marry a second wife))).
All people are cunts.
Revelation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I won’t speak for women - I don’t know them.
But judging by the guys’ answers, they fuck too!!
And I won’t speak for the guys - I’ve never been a muzhi partner.
But sometimes I communicate with people, different things sex, and everyone is fucking.
All sexual fantasies of most people remain silent.
Few people voice them, even in our time, when there is porn of all stripes.
This is both strange and It’s clear. Time and production have changed, but people’s consciousness has not.
All people are cunts. Revelation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I won’t speak for women - I don’t know them. But judging by the guys’ answers, they fuck too!! And I won’t speak for the guys - I’ve never been a muzhi partner. But sometimes I communicate with people, different things sex, and everyone is fucking. All sexual fantasies of most people remain silent. Few people voice them, even in our time, when there is porn of all stripes. This is both strange and It’s clear. Time and production have changed, but people’s consciousness has not.
In my opinion, the author has some kind of complex of his own. There are a lot of stamps there. Moscow City, Ostankino Tower, dear Lego for a child. Well, and most importantly, go to bed with everyone, because they were the initiators. In general, anything can happen here. And the fact that the woman is available, and the fact that the woman is more busy looking for a man, although the child is 4 years old. And her commercialism.
In my opinion, the author has some kind of complex of his own. There are a lot of stamps there. Moscow City, Ostankino Tower, dear Lego for a child. Well, and most importantly, go to bed with everyone, because they were the initiators. In general, anything can happen here. And the fact that the woman is available, and the fact that the woman is more busy looking for a man, although the child is 4 years old. And her commercialism.
◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊: ↑23 Nov 2023, 08:18
If the goal is not just sex, but a long-term relationship, then sex brings you closer, this is great, but in a relationship it is not the main thing, oddly enough
◊_NeBo[_On_] LaDoNi_◊: ↑23 Nov 2023, 08:18
If the goal is not just sex, but a long-term relationship, then sex brings you closer together, this is great, but in a relationship it is not the main thing, oddly enough..
Really?
Or is it different for everyone?
I wonder what men think about this?
think for yourself, what is valuable and bonding in your relationship?.. it seems to me that this is the desire to be close, to hear, to understand, to care and to feel the same in relation to yourself.
I’m not saying that without You can get by with sex... no... but it’s far from in first place.. he’s like the icing on the cake.
◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊: ↑23 Nov 2023, 08:18
If the target not just sex, but a long-term relationship, then sex brings you closer together, this is great, but in a relationship it is not the main thing, oddly enough..
Really?
Or is it different for everyone?
I wonder what men think about this?
Honestly, I’m in my life I have never met such men, who initially had the goal of a relationship, to be close, children, a household... On the contrary, everyone tried to avoid this, well, then they fell in love, only then did they agree to get married...
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[quote="◊_NeBo[_Na_] LaDoNi_◊" post_id=292618 time=1700756283 user_id=5795] If the goal is not just sex, but a long-term relationship, then sex brings you closer, this is great, but in a relationship it is not the main thing, oddly enough [/quote] [quote="◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊" post_id=292632 time=1700757301 user_id=5795] [quote=Alenka post_id=292621 time=1700756454 user_id=19239] [quote="◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊" post_id=292618 time=1700756283 user_id =5795] If the goal is not just sex, but a long-term relationship, then sex brings you closer together, this is great, but in a relationship it is not the main thing, oddly enough.. [/quote] Really? Or is it different for everyone? I wonder what men think about this? [/quote]think for yourself, what is valuable and bonding in your relationship?.. it seems to me that this is the desire to be close, to hear, to understand, to care and to feel the same in relation to yourself. I’m not saying that without You can get by with sex... no... but it’s far from in first place.. he’s like the icing on the cake. [/quote] [quote=Alenka post_id=292621 time=1700756454 user_id=19239] [quote="◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊" post_id=292618 time=1700756283 user_id=5795] If the target not just sex, but a long-term relationship, then sex brings you closer together, this is great, but in a relationship it is not the main thing, oddly enough.. [/quote] Really? Or is it different for everyone? I wonder what men think about this? [/quote] Honestly, I’m in my life I have never met such men, who initially had the goal of a relationship, to be close, children, a household... On the contrary, everyone tried to avoid this, well, then they fell in love, only then did they agree to get married...
LenychSauron: ↑20 Nov 2023, 10:58
I have been divorced for quite some time, I have a 4-year-old son. I tried in vain to find the man. First, the father of a boy from my son’s group met me in kindergarten. He courted me beautifully, we actively met for about 10 days, then he had some business to do, and communication came to naught. Then my best friend introduced me to a guy. We dated for two months, lived together, everything was great, then he said that we should break up. I think okay, I’ll register on a dating site. I met another man, he also courted me beautifully, the first date was in a restaurant in Moscow City, the second at the Eiffel Tower, he was better in bed than all my exes. When he came to me and found out that I had a son, he said goodbye. Then I met another one. She brought him home, introduced him to his son, and he gave him expensive Lego. During sex he swore his love to me. The next day after morning sex he disappeared. This is why men are so anxious??? At first they court beautifully, and after sex or a couple of months of relationship, they merge and kick-ass.
I counted four who ran away...oh, and even the husband...he’s the fifth ....so maybe it’s not the men, but the woman?
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[quote=LenychSauron post_id=291184 time=1700506708 user_id=21933] I have been divorced for quite some time, I have a 4-year-old son. I tried in vain to find the man. First, the father of a boy from my son’s group met me in kindergarten. He courted me beautifully, we actively met for about 10 days, then he had some business to do, and communication came to naught. Then my best friend introduced me to a guy. We dated for two months, lived together, everything was great, then he said that we should break up. I think okay, I’ll register on a dating site. I met another man, he also courted me beautifully, the first date was in a restaurant in Moscow City, the second at the Eiffel Tower, he was better in bed than all my exes. When he came to me and found out that I had a son, he said goodbye. Then I met another one. She brought him home, introduced him to his son, and he gave him expensive Lego. During sex he swore his love to me. The next day after morning sex he disappeared. This is why men are so anxious??? At first they court beautifully, and after sex or a couple of months of relationship, they merge and kick-ass. [/quote] I counted four who ran away...oh, and even the husband...he’s the fifth ....so maybe it’s not the men, but the woman?
[quote=Aion2012Dead post_id=295276 time=1701151059 user_id=6819] [ref=#bf0000]Serg_A[/ref], nI have come across people I know who are schizophrenics. [/quote] I read the biography of Chikatilo, so he has [url=viewtopic.php?t=4945]sex with my wife[/url] was really not in the first place...
If we had technology like in the novel by O. Huxley - Oh, Brave New World!
We would definitely strive for it, only with an emphasis on Orwell.
Factories for the production of people + ideology, which is a lie - This is true.
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Alenka: ↑23 Nov 2023, 10:38
◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊, I will also go from the opposite.
Many men will not go to the left, having a respectful, faithful, devoted, loving woman, but who is so-so when it comes to sex?
[quote=Alenka post_id=292702 time=1700764681 user_id=19239] ◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊, I will also go from the opposite. Many men will not go to the left, having a respectful, faithful, devoted, loving woman, but who is so-so when it comes to sex? [/quote] I’m walking...
nIt will depend on the daily load and free time...well, and on natural data. Loss of potency and libido is not the worst thing an overweight person experiences. High blood pressure, diabetes, bad knees, atherosclerosis leading to strokes and heart attacks.
No one grows a belly of their own free will. Abdominal obesity is the most difficult thing to lose.
Are you a doctor, or the husband of a doctor?
vvm: ↑23 Nov 2023, 20:45
No one grows a belly of their own free will. Abdominal obesity is the most difficult thing to lose.
No! In fact, all this is put together quite successfully and there is nothing complicated here.
Everything is as simple as mooing. But you just need to eat no more than 1200 kilocalories every day.
And this is enough to lose any excess weight.
And all this has long been known to both athletes and their trainers, and sports doctors, and doctors who deal with plastic surgery.
Because, strange as it may seem, everything really works very simply - you just need to consume no more calories than you spend.
And about 1200 you are just you spend on the work of internal organs. And you just need to eat no more than this amount of calories every day.
And you need to endure and not eat more than 1200 kilocalories for two weeks. For some it will be all three. But no more.
These three weeks the body will somehow try to fight this in the hope that it is temporary. And perhaps nothing will happen to the weight.
But the general condition of the body may worsen. Something like withdrawal.
But if you endure it and don’t break down and don’t binge on buns or any other goodies, then the body will understand that this is serious and that something needs to be done about all this.
And he will begin to get rid of the excess. And first of all, it is not fat that will go under the knife, but muscle. Because fat, when burned, produces more calories. And fat is more valuable to the body than muscle. And in order not to burn muscle instead of fat, the body needs physical activity. If you just go to work and carry refrigerators to the fifth floor, then there will be little benefit from this.
You need a load of a different nature. This is roughly what jocks do in rocking chairs. I mean in paid gyms.
You need a small set of exercises for the main muscles of the body. The set is small, about forty minutes.
Let’s say for biceps, five approaches ten times to a curved barbell weighing 20 kilograms. The break between approaches is short - no more than a minute. Otherwise, the training will take several hours.
For starters, 20 kg may even be a lot. Some may find this weight funny. But initially, the first approach will be easy, and the fifth will probably be a failure. In order not to pull the muscles or tendons, if failure occurs, it is better to stop the approach and consider it done. Rest for a minute and do the next approach.
And thus several more similar exercises. With stacked dumbbells or a regular barbell. The weights are small. Dumbbells no more than eight kilograms each. This will also seem funny, but by the fifth approach it will no longer be funny at all.
And all these physical exercises must be done, otherwise if you eat no more than 1200 kilocalories, you will not burn belly fat, but but its own muscles.
And this is where the dog rummaged.
In fact, there is a double load on willpower - not only do you need not to eat treats and limit yourself in food. In addition to this, exercise regularly. After which the muscles will initially become very sore. You will have to do two days of classes, then one day of rest, then again two days of classes.
But at first, after the first workout, your muscles will ache wildly. In order not to rip anything off and not to injure yourself, you can exercise for the first week every other day - a day of classes, a day of rest.
After a week, the muscle pain will go away and it will be easier and you can switch to a two-day training regime - one day of rest.
If you continue not to eat more than 1200 kilocalories and engage in physical activity and endure for two or three weeks, then the weight will go down. For some it is fast, for others it is slower. But it will definitely work. And it will definitely reach normal. The belly will also disappear.
Despite the fact that you can eat absolutely whatever you want. At least wash down lard with cola. But you have to count the calories of what you eat. And do not eat more than 1200 kilocalories per day.
By the way, you will be unpleasantly surprised if you start counting the calories YOU eat. It turns out that two sandwiches with sausage and cheese, and coffee with milk and sugar can easily add up to more than 600 kilocalories. Yes, yes!!!
I ate two coffee sandwiches at breakfast, and thus used half of my daily ration. The whole point is that we eat uncontrollably and don’t even imagine how many calories we cram into ourselves per day.
But that’s not all. There are two more things.
The first is metabolism. He needs to be rocked. So that the body begins to actively digest food. So that it does not become sour in the stomach for two days. And so that the body begins to digest food more actively. I won’t describe how to do this right now. Just for the weight to begin to go away, you need to pump up this metabolism.
The second is to simply exclude some things from your diet for good. Well, at least for those months that you decided to lose weight.
You MUST give up sugar in its pure form. That is, sugar no longer exists for you. You can use honey, but count the calories. But granulated sugar is prohibited.
Then you should exclude white bread from your diet. And all its types - buns, pies, pastries, cakes, cookies. You can only eat black bread.
For the first time, you can limit yourself to these prohibitions and everything else can be eaten without restrictions. But only on the condition that you have to count all the food you eat.
And don’t eat more than 1200 kilocalories per day. And your belly will disappear as if it never existed.
And you will have to change your entire wardrobe - the news is both good and bad.
But to do all this you need a lot of willpower. And this is actually even more difficult than quitting smoking.
Because the dependence on food is stronger than on smoking. And starting to exercise regularly and not quitting after a couple of weeks is even more difficult.
In general, if you face the truth, all overweight people are essentially drug addicts.
And for them, food is the same thing as some kind of drug. And in everything else everything is exactly the same.
That is, getting off this drug is very, very difficult. Almost impossible. And the most effective way is to handcuff a person to a radiator and not let him near the refrigerator for a month. And the withdrawal symptoms will be terrible. Moreover, there is no dependence on the status of a person and his social position in society. This could be a minister or a general or anyone in general.
But in all cases there is always one and only way to lose weight - to eat no more than the so-called basic caloric expenditure of the human body.
In smart books they write that it is different for men and women. They say for women it is 1200, and for men 1800.
But this is all a deception of oneself. To eat more than you should.
In fact, 1200 doesn’t even matter! Don’t fuck yourself up at the beginning of this path!
P.S.
I agree, a lot text. And it took a lot of time.
But I am writing all this solely out of a desire to help people who have big problems with this.
To somehow support and help.
If at least one a person will take advantage of this advice and be able to find the courage to endure all this, then all this was not written in vain.
Well, the fact that this is almost the truth in the first instance, you can take my word for it - it works!
Checked! No mines!
There is another option - start running several kilometers a day.
[quote=Vasyanitsa post_id=292793 time=1700777187 user_id=20537] Prostitutes are generally not our, not Russian culture [/quote] I don’t know whose culture this is, but I like it.[quote=Vsyanitsa post_id=292865 time=1700804171 user_id=20537] [quote=vvm post_id=292852 time=1700801151 user_id=18147] nIt will depend on the daily load and free time...well, and on natural data. Loss of potency and libido is not the worst thing an overweight person experiences. High blood pressure, diabetes, bad knees, atherosclerosis leading to strokes and heart attacks. No one grows a belly of their own free will. Abdominal obesity is the most difficult thing to lose. [/quote] Are you a doctor, or the husband of a doctor? :-) [quote=vvm post_id=292852 time=1700801151 user_id=18147] No one grows a belly of their own free will. Abdominal obesity is the most difficult thing to lose. [/quote] No! In fact, all this is put together quite successfully and there is nothing complicated here. Everything is as simple as mooing. But you just need to eat no more than 1200 kilocalories every day. And this is enough to lose any excess weight.
And all this has long been known to both athletes and their trainers, and sports doctors, and doctors who deal with plastic surgery. Because, strange as it may seem, everything really works very simply - you just need to consume no more calories than you spend. And about 1200 you are just you spend on the work of internal organs. And you just need to eat no more than this amount of calories every day.
And you need to endure and not eat more than 1200 kilocalories for two weeks. For some it will be all three. But no more. These three weeks the body will somehow try to fight this in the hope that it is temporary. And perhaps nothing will happen to the weight. But the general condition of the body may worsen. Something like withdrawal.
But if you endure it and don’t break down and don’t binge on buns or any other goodies, then the body will understand that this is serious and that something needs to be done about all this. And he will begin to get rid of the excess. And first of all, it is not fat that will go under the knife, but muscle. Because fat, when burned, produces more calories. And fat is more valuable to the body than muscle. And in order not to burn muscle instead of fat, the body needs physical activity. If you just go to work and carry refrigerators to the fifth floor, then there will be little benefit from this.
You need a load of a different nature. This is roughly what jocks do in rocking chairs. I mean in paid gyms. You need a small set of exercises for the main muscles of the body. The set is small, about forty minutes. Let’s say for biceps, five approaches ten times to a curved barbell weighing 20 kilograms. The break between approaches is short - no more than a minute. Otherwise, the training will take several hours.
For starters, 20 kg may even be a lot. Some may find this weight funny. But initially, the first approach will be easy, and the fifth will probably be a failure. In order not to pull the muscles or tendons, if failure occurs, it is better to stop the approach and consider it done. Rest for a minute and do the next approach. And thus several more similar exercises. With stacked dumbbells or a regular barbell. The weights are small. Dumbbells no more than eight kilograms each. This will also seem funny, but by the fifth approach it will no longer be funny at all.
And all these physical exercises must be done, otherwise if you eat no more than 1200 kilocalories, you will not burn belly fat, but but its own muscles. And this is where the dog rummaged. In fact, there is a double load on willpower - not only do you need not to eat treats and limit yourself in food. In addition to this, exercise regularly. After which the muscles will initially become very sore. You will have to do two days of classes, then one day of rest, then again two days of classes. But at first, after the first workout, your muscles will ache wildly. In order not to rip anything off and not to injure yourself, you can exercise for the first week every other day - a day of classes, a day of rest.
After a week, the muscle pain will go away and it will be easier and you can switch to a two-day training regime - one day of rest. If you continue not to eat more than 1200 kilocalories and engage in physical activity and endure for two or three weeks, then the weight will go down. For some it is fast, for others it is slower. But it will definitely work. And it will definitely reach normal. The belly will also disappear. Despite the fact that you can eat absolutely whatever you want. At least wash down lard with cola. But you have to count the calories of what you eat. And do not eat more than 1200 kilocalories per day.
By the way, you will be unpleasantly surprised if you start counting the calories YOU eat. It turns out that two sandwiches with sausage and cheese, and coffee with milk and sugar can easily add up to more than 600 kilocalories. Yes, yes!!! I ate two coffee sandwiches at breakfast, and thus used half of my daily ration. The whole point is that we eat uncontrollably and don’t even imagine how many calories we cram into ourselves per day.
But that’s not all. There are two more things. The first is metabolism. He needs to be rocked. So that the body begins to actively digest food. So that it does not become sour in the stomach for two days. And so that the body begins to digest food more actively. I won’t describe how to do this right now. Just for the weight to begin to go away, you need to pump up this metabolism.
The second is to simply exclude some things from your diet for good. Well, at least for those months that you decided to lose weight. You MUST give up sugar in its pure form. That is, sugar no longer exists for you. You can use honey, but count the calories. But granulated sugar is prohibited. Then you should exclude white bread from your diet. And all its types - buns, pies, pastries, cakes, cookies. You can only eat black bread.
For the first time, you can limit yourself to these prohibitions and everything else can be eaten without restrictions. But only on the condition that you have to count all the food you eat. And don’t eat more than 1200 kilocalories per day. And your belly will disappear as if it never existed. And you will have to change your entire wardrobe - the news is both good and bad. :-)
But to do all this you need a lot of willpower. And this is actually even more difficult than quitting smoking. Because the dependence on food is stronger than on smoking. And starting to exercise regularly and not quitting after a couple of weeks is even more difficult. In general, if you face the truth, all overweight people are essentially drug addicts. And for them, food is the same thing as some kind of drug. And in everything else everything is exactly the same.
That is, getting off this drug is very, very difficult. Almost impossible. And the most effective way is to handcuff a person to a radiator and not let him near the refrigerator for a month. And the withdrawal symptoms will be terrible. Moreover, there is no dependence on the status of a person and his social position in society. This could be a minister or a general or anyone in general.
But in all cases there is always one and only way to lose weight - to eat no more than the so-called basic caloric expenditure of the human body. In smart books they write that it is different for men and women. They say for women it is 1200, and for men 1800. But this is all a deception of oneself. To eat more than you should. In fact, 1200 doesn’t even matter! Don’t fuck yourself up at the beginning of this path! :-)
P.S. I agree, a lot text. And it took a lot of time. But I am writing all this solely out of a desire to help people who have big problems with this. To somehow support and help. If at least one a person will take advantage of this advice and be able to find the courage to endure all this, then all this was not written in vain. Well, the fact that this is almost the truth in the first instance, you can take my word for it - it works! Checked! No mines! :-) [/quote] There is another option - start running several kilometers a day.
Ksenofont: ↑24 Nov 2023, 06:32
Leave the fatties alone. They are kind because they are not hungry and can happily afford to drink and eat. For the same reason they are cheerful.
I know fat people who are very angry, and also mean-spirited, several of them at that.
[quote=Ksenofont post_id=293367 time=1700836326 user_id=17996] Leave the fatties alone. They are kind because they are not hungry and can happily afford to drink and eat. For the same reason they are cheerful. [/quote] I know fat people who are very angry, and also mean-spirited, several of them at that.
Serg_A: ↑22 Nov 2023, 23:43
Cuni is taboo, crap, I have no idea!
No, Alenka guessed correctly). nMy wife loves to read advertisements and reacts the same way to offer kuni - not worth it.
Then I don’t have it from the moment it started standing . From the first of my sexual fantasies, I thought about Kuni, I also really wanted to fuck, but in a thought experiment, if I fell in love with a very beautiful girl, and she had a twin sister like her, and the first one would only allow fucking, without cunnilingus, and the second would allow all caresses, and especially Cunnilingus, but fucking would be prohibited. I would not hesitate to marry a second wife))).
The essence of what I wrote was different. I’m not anti-cunnilingus. I wrote that in mature men the ability to have sex is lost geometrically. And only cunnilingus remains. Offer cunnilingus in ads after forty looks like a marker that a man cannot use a penis in a classical way. The loss of function at forty to fifty years looks tragic. It’s as if life is leaving. And anorgasmia also finishes off those who have retained potency and libido.
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Serg_A: ↑27 Nov 2023, 23:09
I know fat people who are very angry, and also mean, several of them
[quote=Serg_A post_id=295259 time=1701147232 user_id=18010] [quote=vvm post_id=292412 time=1700734768 user_id= 18147] [quote=Serg_A post_id=292338 time =1700725399 user_id=18010] Cuni is taboo, crap, I have no idea! [/quote] No, Alenka guessed correctly). nMy wife loves to read advertisements and reacts the same way to [url=viewtopic.php?t=12476]offer[/ url] kuni - not worth it. [/quote] Then I don’t have it from the moment it started standing 😁😁😁. From the first of my sexual fantasies, I thought about Kuni, I also really wanted to fuck, but in a thought experiment, if I fell in love with a very beautiful girl, and she had a twin sister like her, and the first one would only allow fucking, without cunnilingus, and the second would allow all caresses, and especially Cunnilingus, but fucking would be prohibited. I would not hesitate to marry a second wife))). [/quote] The essence of what I wrote was different. I’m not anti-cunnilingus. I wrote that in mature men the ability to have sex is lost geometrically. And only cunnilingus remains. [url=viewtopic.php?t=12476]Offer[/url] cunnilingus in ads after forty looks like a marker that a man cannot use a penis in a classical way. The loss of function at forty to fifty years looks tragic. It’s as if life is leaving. And anorgasmia also finishes off those who have retained potency and libido.
[size=85][color=green]Sent after 4 minutes 54 seconds:[/color][/size] [quote=Serg_A post_id=295306 time= 1701155355 user_id=18010] I know fat people who are very angry, and also mean, several of them [/quote] [s]Merchants?[/s] [s]Hucksters?[/s]. Businessmen?)
Ksenofont: ↑24 Nov 2023, 06:32
Leave the fatties alone. They are kind because they are not hungry and can happily afford to drink and eat. For the same reason, they are cheerful.
I know fat people who are very angry, and also mean, several of them.
You are very unlucky in life. It happens. People are basically evil and vile by nature. And you, apparently, are also surrounded by vile fat people. I’m sad with you!
vvm: ↑23 Nov 2023, 02:19
No, Alenka guessed correctly).
My wife likes to read advertisements and reacts the same way to suggestion cunnilingus - not worth it.
Then I don’t have it from the moment it started standing . From the first of my sexual fantasies, I thought about Kuni, I also really wanted to fuck, but in a thought experiment, if I fell in love with a very beautiful girl, and she had a twin sister like her, and the first one would only allow fucking, without cunnilingus, and the second would allow all caresses, and especially Cunnilingus, but fucking would be prohibited. I would not hesitate to marry a second wife))).
The essence of what I wrote was different. I’m not anti-cunnilingus. I wrote that in mature men the ability to have sex is lost geometrically. And only cunnilingus remains. Offer cunnilingus in ads after forty looks like a marker that a man cannot use a penis in a classical way. The loss of function at forty to fifty years looks tragic. It’s as if life is leaving. And anorgasmia also finishes off those who have retained potency and libido.
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Serg_A: ↑27 Nov 2023, 23:09
I know fat people who are very angry, and also mean, several of them
Merchants?Hucksters?. Businessmen?)
Where do you get these statistics? Why do you immediately classify everyone who likes cunnilingus as impotent? This is not so much offensive as it is incorrect.
Apparently you judge people doing business by the poem by Vladimir Mayakovsky - is your last day coming bourgeois?
Modern businessmen, on the contrary, are jocks who never leave fitness clubs. About the same as this unfortunate Serge A, surrounded by evil, overweight people.
[quote=Serg_A post_id=295306 time=1701155355 user_id=18010] [quote=Ksenofont post_id=293367 time=1700836326 user_id= 17996] Leave the fatties alone. They are kind because they are not hungry and can happily afford to drink and eat. For the same reason, they are cheerful. [/quote] I know fat people who are very angry, and also mean, several of them. [ /quote] You are very unlucky in life. It happens. People are basically evil and vile by nature. And you, apparently, are also surrounded by vile fat people. I’m sad with you!
No, Alenka guessed correctly). My wife likes to read advertisements and reacts the same way to [url=viewtopic.php?t=12476]suggestion[/url] cunnilingus - not worth it. [/quote] Then I don’t have it from the moment it started standing 😁😁😁. From the first of my sexual fantasies, I thought about Kuni, I also really wanted to fuck, but in a thought experiment, if I fell in love with a very beautiful girl, and she had a twin sister like her, and the first one would only allow fucking, without cunnilingus, and the second would allow all caresses, and especially Cunnilingus, but fucking would be prohibited. I would not hesitate to marry a second wife))). [/quote] The essence of what I wrote was different. I’m not anti-cunnilingus. I wrote that in mature men the ability to have sex is lost geometrically. And only cunnilingus remains. [url=viewtopic.php?t=12476]Offer[/url] cunnilingus in ads after forty looks like a marker that a man cannot use a penis in a classical way. The loss of function at forty to fifty years looks tragic. It’s as if life is leaving. And anorgasmia also finishes off those who have retained potency and libido.
[size=85][color=green]Sent after 4 minutes 54 seconds:[/color][/size] [quote=Serg_A post_id=295306 time= 1701155355 user_id=18010] I know fat people who are very angry, and also mean, several of them [/quote] [s]Merchants?[/s] [s]Hucksters?[/s]. Businessmen?) [/quote] Where do you get these statistics? Why do you immediately classify everyone who likes cunnilingus as impotent? This is not so much offensive as it is incorrect. Apparently you judge people doing business by the poem by Vladimir Mayakovsky - is your last day coming bourgeois? Modern businessmen, on the contrary, are jocks who never leave fitness clubs. About the same as this unfortunate Serge A, surrounded by evil, overweight people.
Ksenofont: ↑24 Nov 2023, 06:32
Leave the fatties alone. They are kind because they are not hungry and can happily afford to drink and eat. For the same reason, they are cheerful.
I know fat people who are very angry, and also mean, several of them.
You are very unlucky in life. It happens. People are basically evil and vile by nature. And you, apparently, are also surrounded by vile fat people. I’m sad with you!
In principle, I don’t care that they are fat people, they are, first of all, rare scoundrels, and they have ruined the lives of so many people.
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[quote=Ksenofont post_id=295312 time=1701156321 user_id=17996] [quote=Serg_A post_id=295306 time=1701155355 user_id= 18010] [quote=Ksenofont post_id=293367 time =1700836326 user_id=17996] Leave the fatties alone. They are kind because they are not hungry and can happily afford to drink and eat. For the same reason, they are cheerful. [/quote] I know fat people who are very angry, and also mean, several of them. [ /quote] You are very unlucky in life. It happens. People are basically evil and vile by nature. And you, apparently, are also surrounded by vile fat people. I’m sad with you! [/quote] In principle, I don’t care that they are fat people, they are, first of all, rare scoundrels, and they have ruined the lives of so many people.
◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊: ↑23 Nov 2023, 08:18
If the goal is not just sex, but a long-term relationship, then sex brings you closer, this is great, but in a relationship it is not the main thing, oddly enough
Alenka:23 Nov 2023, 08:20
Actually really?
Or is it different for everyone?
I wonder what men think about this?
judge for yourself what is valuable and bonding in your relationship?.. it seems to me that this desire to be close, to hear, to understand, to care and to feel the same in relation to oneself.
I’m not saying that you can do without sex.. no. . but he is far from in first place.. he is like the cherry on the cake.
◊_NeBo[_On_] LaDoNi_◊: ↑23 Nov 2023, 08:18
If the goal is not just sex, but a long-term relationship, then sex brings you closer together, this is great, but in a relationship it is not the main thing, oddly enough..
Really?
Or is it different for everyone?
I wonder what men think about this?
To be honest, in my life I have never met such men, who initially had the goal of a relationship, to be close, children, a household... On the contrary, everyone tried to avoid this, but then they fell in love, only then did they agree to get married...
if you read carefully, it becomes clear that they get together because of sex , they stay in a relationship not because of him.. do you live with your wife because of sex?
[quote=Serg_A post_id=295274 time=1701150762 user_id=18010] [quote="◊ _NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊" post_id=292618 time=1700756283 user_id=5795] If the goal is not just sex, but a long-term relationship, then sex brings you closer, this is great, but in a relationship it is not the main thing, oddly enough [/quote] [quote="◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊" post_id=292632 time=1700757301 user_id=5795] [quote=Alenka post_id=292621 time=1700756454 user_id=19239]
Actually really? Or is it different for everyone? I wonder what men think about this? [/quote]judge for yourself what is valuable and bonding in your relationship?.. it seems to me that this desire to be close, to hear, to understand, to care and to feel the same in relation to oneself. I’m not saying that you can do without sex.. no. . but he is far from in first place.. he is like the cherry on the cake. [/quote] [quote=Alenka post_id=292621 time=1700756454 user_id=19239] [quote="◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊" post_id=292618 time=1700756283 user_id =5795] If the goal is not just sex, but a long-term relationship, then sex brings you closer together, this is great, but in a relationship it is not the main thing, oddly enough.. [/quote] Really? Or is it different for everyone? I wonder what men think about this? [/quote] To be honest, in my life I have never met such men, who initially had the goal of a relationship, to be close, children, a household... On the contrary, everyone tried to avoid this, but then they fell in love, only then did they agree to get married... [/quote]if you read carefully, it becomes clear that they get together because of sex , they stay in a relationship not because of him.. do you live with your wife because of sex?
◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊: ↑23 Nov 2023, 08:18
If the goal is not just fucking, but long-term relationship, then sex brings you closer together, this is great, but in a relationship it is not the main thing, oddly enough
◊_NeBo[_Na_] LaDoNi_◊: ↑23 Nov 2023, 08:35
think for yourself, what is valuable and bonding in your relationship?.. it seems to me that this is the desire to be close, to hear, to understand, to care and to feel the same in relation to yourself. nI’m not saying that you can do without sex.. no.. but it’s far from in first place.. it’s like the cherry on the cake.
Alenka: ↑23 Nov 2023, 08:20
Really?
Or is it different for everyone?
I wonder what men think about this?
To be honest, in my life I have never met such men, whose initial goal was a relationship, to be close, children, a household... On the contrary, everyone tried to avoid this, well, then they fell in love, only then did they agree to get married ...
if you read carefully, it becomes clear that they get together because of sex, they do not maintain a relationship because of it.. you and your wife because do you live for sex?
[quote="◊_NeBo[_Na_] LaDoNi_◊" post_id=295358 time=1701162876 user_id=5795] [quote=Serg_A post_id=295274 time=1701150762 user_id=18010] [quote="◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊" post_id=292618 time=1700756283 user_id=5795] If the goal is not just fucking, but long-term relationship, then sex brings you closer together, this is great, but in a relationship it is not the main thing, oddly enough [/quote] [quote="◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊" post_id=292632 time=1700757301 user_id =5795] think for yourself, what is valuable and bonding in your relationship?.. it seems to me that this is the desire to be close, to hear, to understand, to care and to feel the same in relation to yourself. nI’m not saying that you can do without sex.. no.. but it’s far from in first place.. it’s like the cherry on the cake. [/quote] [quote=Alenka post_id=292621 time=1700756454 user_id=19239]
Really? Or is it different for everyone? I wonder what men think about this? [/quote] To be honest, in my life I have never met such men, whose initial goal was a relationship, to be close, children, a household... On the contrary, everyone tried to avoid this, well, then they fell in love, only then did they agree to get married ... [/quote]if you read carefully, it becomes clear that they get together because of sex, they do not maintain a relationship because of it.. you and your wife because do you live for sex? [/quote] No. But I go to the left
Honestly, I’m on I have never met such men in my life, who initially had the goal of a relationship, to be close, children, a household... On the contrary, everyone tried to avoid this, but then they fell in love, only then did they agree to get married...
if you read carefully, it becomes clear that they get together because of sex, they stay in a relationship not because of it... do you and your wife live because of sex?
No.
But I go to the left
but you are not getting a divorce, for what reasons?
It’s sad that you don’t see the difference between a truly close person and those with whom you can only fuck.. well.. maybe someday you will understand.. you will grow to realize this.
Honestly, I’m on I have never met such men in my life, who initially had the goal of a relationship, to be close, children, a household... On the contrary, everyone tried to avoid this, but then they fell in love, only then did they agree to get married... [/ quote]if you read carefully, it becomes clear that they get together because of sex, they stay in a relationship not because of it... do you and your wife live because of sex? [/ quote] No. But I go to the left [/quote]but you are not getting a divorce, for what reasons? It’s sad that you don’t see the difference between a truly close person and those with whom you can only fuck.. well.. maybe someday you will understand.. you will grow to realize this.
◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊: ↑28 Nov 2023, 02:02
but you are not getting divorced, for what reasons?
I love her like a person, but not as a woman.
◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊: ↑28 Nov 2023, 02:02
It’s sad that you don’t see the difference between a truly close person and those with whom you can only fuck
Why don’t I see it, I really do see it. I perceive every woman as a person, as an individual. And I treat everyone with respect. They are all different.
Unfortunately, really sad. Girls fall in love with me and want me to marry them. This seemed like a reason for me to be proud, but I had no time for it. I’m just sad, I want to make everyone happy, but what can I do?
[quote="◊_NeBo[_Na_] LaDoNi_◊" post_id=295385 time=1701165757 user_id=5795] but you are not getting divorced, for what reasons? [/quote] I love her like a person, but not as a woman. [ quote="◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊" post_id=295385 time=1701165757 user_id=5795] It’s sad that you don’t see the difference between a truly close person and those with whom you can only fuck [/quote] Why don’t I see it, I really do see it. I perceive every woman as a [b]person, as an individual[/b]. And I treat everyone with respect. [b]They are all different[/b]. [quote="◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊" post_id=295385 time=1701165757 user_id=5795] Sad [/quote] Unfortunately, really sad. Girls fall in love with me and want me to marry them. This seemed like a reason for me to be proud, but I had no time for it. I’m just sad, I want to make everyone happy, but what can I do?
Ksenofont: ↑27 Nov 2023, 23:34
Where do you get these statistics? Why do you immediately classify everyone who likes cunnilingus as impotent? This is not so much offensive as it is incorrect.
See for yourself. Open anonymous advertisements and read for yourself. They write directly what they want. Open age 20+, 30+ and match with mature ones. Who often write in their advertisements - cunnilingus without reciprocity. It’s a shame? - this is reality. You can, of course, live and think that nothing changes with age. Yes, I wrote to them more than once and asked, my wife and I argued - the answer is that the penis is not worth it, the penis is not worth it... Isn’t that right? You can ask around yourself.
Ksenofont: ↑27 Nov 2023, 23:34
Apparently you judge people doing business from Vladimir Mayakovsky’s poem - the bourgeois comes on your last day?
Modern businessmen, on the contrary, are jocks who never leave fitness clubs.
Strange reaction... I wrote this with humor... Fat people are perceived as good-natured people. Merchants have always been fat and far from kind.
Mayakovsky was a great guy, he wrote well. I don’t care whether businessmen go to the gym or not.
[quote=Ksenofont post_id=295312 time=1701156886 user_id=17996] Where do you get these statistics? Why do you immediately classify everyone who likes cunnilingus as impotent? This is not so much offensive as it is incorrect. [/quote] See for yourself. Open anonymous advertisements and read for yourself. They write directly what they want. Open age 20+, 30+ and match with mature ones. Who often write in their advertisements - cunnilingus without reciprocity. It’s a shame? - this is reality. You can, of course, live and think that nothing changes with age. Yes, I wrote to them more than once and asked, my wife and I argued - the answer is that the penis is not worth it, the penis is not worth it... Isn’t that right? You can ask around yourself. [quote=Ksenofont post_id=295312 time=1701156886 user_id=17996] Apparently you judge people doing business from Vladimir Mayakovsky’s poem - the bourgeois comes on your last day? Modern businessmen, on the contrary, are jocks who never leave fitness clubs. [/quote] Strange reaction... I wrote this with humor... Fat people are perceived as good-natured people. Merchants have always been fat and far from kind. Mayakovsky was a great guy, he wrote well. I don’t care whether businessmen go to the gym or not.
I read the topic, it seems that the authors claim that they are adults, but with absolutely childish thinking.
1. The author of the topicstarter is the main problem that men run away not in the child, but only in her. She exclusively chooses those who are willing to pay for sex with her and then is surprised by the result. And there are a lot of such women. The solution here is simple, this is to look for a man for marriage, immediately tell about the presence of a child and not chase after gifts. Sex has nothing to do with it at all. I and many men believe that if there was no sex from the first to the third date, you need to stop any communication with such a girl forever because she is not right in the head or she is simply scamming you.
2. The man who recalled the story that the girl did not approach. This is also a kindergarten. Not a single girl goes to visit with the expectation that there will definitely be a relationship; only a schoolboy can imagine such a thing. Therefore, there is no point in even discussing this, we met, spent time together, if you don’t want to, you don’t even have to write and don’t worry, no one needs you and no one will remember you.
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I read the topic, it seems that the authors claim that they are adults, but with absolutely childish thinking. 1. The author of the topicstarter is the main problem that men run away not in the child, but only in her. She exclusively chooses those who are willing to pay for sex with her and then is surprised by the result. And there are a lot of such women. The solution here is simple, this is to look for a man for marriage, immediately tell about the presence of a child and not chase after gifts. Sex has nothing to do with it at all. I and many men believe that if there was no sex from the first to the third date, you need to stop any communication with such a girl forever because she is not right in the head or she is simply scamming you. 2. The man who recalled the story that the girl did not approach. This is also a kindergarten. Not a single girl goes to visit with the expectation that there will definitely be a relationship; only a schoolboy can imagine such a thing. Therefore, there is no point in even discussing this, we met, spent time together, if you don’t want to, you don’t even have to write and don’t worry, no one needs you and no one will remember you.
Ksenofont: ↑27 Nov 2023, 23:34
Where do you get these statistics? Why do you immediately classify everyone who likes cunnilingus as impotent? This is not so much offensive as it is incorrect.
See for yourself. Open anonymous advertisements and read for yourself. They write directly what they want. Open age 20+, 30+ and match with mature ones. Who often write in their advertisements - cunnilingus without reciprocity. It’s a shame? - this is reality. You can, of course, live and think that nothing changes with age. Yes, I wrote to them more than once and asked, my wife and I argued - the answer is that the penis is not worth it, the penis is not worth it... Isn’t that right? You can ask around yourself.
Ksenofont: ↑27 Nov 2023, 23:34
Apparently you judge people doing business from Vladimir Mayakovsky’s poem - the bourgeois comes on your last day?
Modern businessmen, on the contrary, are jocks who never leave fitness clubs.
Strange reaction... I wrote this with humor... Fat people are perceived as good-natured people. Merchants have always been fat and far from kind.
Mayakovsky was a great guy, he wrote well. I don’t care whether businessmen go to the gym or not.
It’s just that young people don’t like and don’t know how to do cunnilingus and rely only on their penis. You look at the same sites. Almost all ladies write about cunnilingus among their priorities. Do you think they all dream of being impotent?
But spitting is not good!
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[quote=vvm post_id=295571 time=1701178395 user_id=18147] [quote=Ksenofont post_id=295312 time=1701156886 user_id= 17996] Where do you get these statistics? Why do you immediately classify everyone who likes cunnilingus as impotent? This is not so much offensive as it is incorrect. [/quote] See for yourself. Open anonymous advertisements and read for yourself. They write directly what they want. Open age 20+, 30+ and match with mature ones. Who often write in their advertisements - cunnilingus without reciprocity. It’s a shame? - this is reality. You can, of course, live and think that nothing changes with age. Yes, I wrote to them more than once and asked, my wife and I argued - the answer is that the penis is not worth it, the penis is not worth it... Isn’t that right? You can ask around yourself. [quote=Ksenofont post_id=295312 time=1701156886 user_id=17996] Apparently you judge people doing business from Vladimir Mayakovsky’s poem - the bourgeois comes on your last day? Modern businessmen, on the contrary, are jocks who never leave fitness clubs. [/quote] Strange reaction... I wrote this with humor... Fat people are perceived as good-natured people. Merchants have always been fat and far from kind. Mayakovsky was a great guy, he wrote well. I don’t care whether businessmen go to the gym or not. [/quote] It’s just that young people don’t like and don’t know how to do cunnilingus and rely only on their penis. You look at the same sites. Almost all ladies write about cunnilingus among their priorities. Do you think they all dream of being impotent? But spitting is not good!
All questions from the topic author were answered correctly on the very first page of the discussion.
If you are looking for a husband, and not a one-time lover, then immediately talk about it at the beginning of the correspondence when meeting, that you are looking for a serious relationship and have a child. This should scare off those looking for quick sex.
But you must also understand that “whoever came, got this one” - therefore, a man of your age, your level of education, your physique and your level can connect his life with you prosperity, and having his own children from his first marriage.
Young beautiful rich men do not marry old, poor, fat women.
All questions from the topic author were answered correctly on the very first page of the discussion. If you are looking for a husband, and not a one-time lover, then immediately talk about it at the beginning of the correspondence when meeting, that you are looking for a serious relationship and have a child. This should scare off those looking for quick sex. But you must also understand that “whoever came, got this one” - therefore, a man of your age, your level of education, your physique and your level can connect his life with you prosperity, and having his own children from his first marriage. Young beautiful rich men do not marry old, poor, fat women.
vvm: ↑28 Nov 2023, 05:33
See for yourself. Open anonymous advertisements and read for yourself. They write directly what they want. Open age 20+, 30+ and match with mature ones. Who often write in their advertisements - cunnilingus without reciprocity. It’s a shame? - this is reality. You can, of course, live and think that nothing changes with age. Yes, I wrote to them more than once and asked, my wife and I argued - the answer is that the penis is not worth it, the penis is not worth it... Isn’t that right? You can ask around yourself
Okay, say what you wanted?
Well, even from your first message I understood your idea that most men after 50 are impotent, and it’s time to sound the alarm. Well, let’s sound the alarm! After the alarm is announced, all people begin to act according to a pre-developed plan. Do you have a plan, Mr. Fixvvm? Introduce us to it we are very interested.
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[quote=vvm post_id=295571 time=1701178395 user_id=18147] See for yourself. Open anonymous advertisements and read for yourself. They write directly what they want. Open age 20+, 30+ and match with mature ones. Who often write in their advertisements - cunnilingus without reciprocity. It’s a shame? - this is reality. You can, of course, live and think that nothing changes with age. Yes, I wrote to them more than once and asked, my wife and I argued - the answer is that the penis is not worth it, the penis is not worth it... Isn’t that right? You can ask around yourself [/quote] Okay, say what you wanted? Well, even from your first message I understood your idea that most men after 50 are impotent, and it’s time to sound the alarm. Well, let’s sound the alarm! After the alarm is announced, all people begin to act according to a pre-developed plan. Do you have a plan, Mr. [s]Fix[/s] [ref=#bf0000]vvm[/ref]? Introduce us to it[b] we are very interested[/b].
Serg_A: ↑27 Nov 2023, 22:46
There is another option - start running several kilometers a day.
This is reasoning from the point of view of a person in good physical shape. Here is imagine imagine that you have rubbed a callus on your foot. Or that you have pulled a tendon in your leg. You run a lot, and even if you force yourself, can you do it effectively in order to lose weight?
It’s the same with fat people - it’s hard for them to run. Very hard. And all this running around has nothing to do with health for a fat person. And before this can bring health, you must first lose excess weight. And it is reset not by running around, but by consuming less food.
Simply put, you just need to eat less.
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[quote=Serg_A post_id=295295 time=1701154012 user_id=18010] There is another option - start running several kilometers a day. [/quote] This is reasoning from the point of view of a person in good physical shape. Here is [url=viewtopic.php?t=13433]imagine[/url] imagine that you have rubbed a callus on your foot. Or that you have pulled a tendon in your leg. You run a lot, and even if you force yourself, can you do it effectively in order to lose weight? It’s the same with fat people - it’s hard for them to run. Very hard. And all this running around has nothing to do with health for a fat person. And before this can bring health, you must first lose excess weight. And it is reset not by running around, but by consuming less food. Simply put, you just need to eat less.
Serg_A: ↑28 Nov 2023, 09:18
Okay, say what I wanted?
That’s what I said a long time ago). It’s strange to me that I had to explain that I’m not against cunnilingus.
Serg_A: ↑28 Nov 2023, 09:18
Well, from your first message I understood your idea that most men after 50 are impotent, and it’s time to sound the alarm
And I wrote, what does cunnilingus have to do with it?)
Serg_A: ↑28 Nov 2023, 09:18
Well, let’s sound the alarm!
It was a rhetorical statement.
Firstly, potency often goes away with libido. In this case, men don’t really need to return everything. Here, as a rule, the balance of hormones is disturbed.
Secondly, this is a problem for women more. From the point of view of women, it’s time to sound the alarm.
Thirdly, sexual impotence is an indicator of health status. Here you can remember the average life expectancy of men.
Ksenofont: ↑28 Nov 2023, 07:35
It’s just that young people don’t like and don’t know how to do cunnilingus and rely only on their penis.
Exactly like this you will get the answer - my wife told me).
They don’t know how?) It’s like some kind of Kung Fu))) does it take decades to hone your skills?)))
Young cunnilingus do it as a show, not basic sex.
Why write about him in advertisements then? Women don’t write about blowjobs when they want sex and don’t give blowjobs without reciprocity. What’s the point of doing cunnilingus without sex?
Ksenofont: ↑28 Nov 2023, 07:35
All the ladies write about cunnilingus among their priorities
But this is not true. Can I find out where they write?
[quote=Serg_A post_id=295726 time=1701191901 user_id=18010] Okay, say what I wanted? [/quote] That’s what I said a long time ago). It’s strange to me that I had to explain that I’m not against cunnilingus.[quote= Serg_A post_id=295726 time=1701191901 user_id=18010] Well, from your first message I understood your idea that most men after 50 are impotent, and it’s time to sound the alarm [/quote] And I wrote, what does cunnilingus have to do with it?) [quote=Serg_A post_id=295726 time=1701191901 user_id=18010] Well, let’s sound the alarm! [/quote] It was a rhetorical statement. Firstly, potency often goes away with libido. In this case, men don’t really need to return everything. Here, as a rule, the balance of hormones is disturbed. Secondly, this is a problem for women more. From the point of view of women, it’s time to sound the alarm. Thirdly, sexual impotence is an indicator of health status. Here you can remember the average life expectancy of men. [quote=Ksenofont post_id =295659 time=1701185723 user_id=17996] It’s just that young people don’t like and don’t know how to do cunnilingus and rely only on their penis. [/quote] Exactly like this you will get the answer - my wife told me). They don’t know how?) It’s like some kind of Kung Fu))) does it take decades to hone your skills?))) Young cunnilingus do it as a show, not basic sex. Why write about him in advertisements then? Women don’t write about blowjobs when they want sex and don’t give blowjobs without reciprocity. What’s the point of doing cunnilingus without sex? [quote=Ksenofont post_id=295659 time=1701185723 user_id=17996] All the ladies write about cunnilingus among their priorities [/quote] But this is not true. Can I find out where they write?
Ksenofont: ↑28 Nov 2023, 07:35
But spitting is not good!
There are different cases in life. If a category of people causes disgust, then it is better to spit so as not to swallow. Businessmen (for me) are exactly that category of people.
[quote=Ksenofont post_id=295659 time=1701185723 user_id=17996] But spitting is not good! [/quote] There are different cases in life. If a category of people causes disgust, then it is better to spit so as not to swallow. Businessmen (for me) are exactly that category of people.
Ksenofont: ↑28 Nov 2023, 07:35
But spitting is not good!
There are different cases in life. If a category of people causes disgust, then it is better to spit so as not to swallow. Businessmen (for me) are exactly that category of people.
So Abramovich and Friedman disgust you? You’ve had enough, my friend! So it’s not far from the article.
[quote=vvm post_id=295847 time=1701213906 user_id=18147] [quote=Ksenofont post_id=295659 time=1701185723 user_id= 17996] But spitting is not good! [/quote] There are different cases in life. If a category of people causes disgust, then it is better to spit so as not to swallow. Businessmen (for me) are exactly that category of people. [/quote] So Abramovich and Friedman disgust you? You’ve had enough, my friend! So it’s not far from the article.
vvm: ↑28 Nov 2023, 15:14
this is not true. Can I find out where they write?
listen, but at least here on the forum.
The survey you provided - what kind of focus group is this? Age? Location? Probably, in large cities the percentage of women and men who respect cunnilingus is higher, in the outback, perhaps lower. This data is not included in the survey.
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[quote=vvm post_id=295844 time=1701213253 user_id=18147] this is not true. Can I find out where they write? [/quote] listen, but at least here on the forum. The survey you provided - what kind of focus group is this? Age? Location? Probably, in large cities the percentage of women and men who respect cunnilingus is higher, in the outback, perhaps lower. This data is not included in the survey.
Hooligan Carrie: ↑29 Nov 2023, 01:00
look, at least here on the forum.
The survey you provided - what kind of focus group is this? Age? Venue?
I provided at least some statistics). And on your part there are only unfounded statements and criticism).
I had several dozen girls and women, approximately. Two women completely refused - they don’t like cunnilingus, the rest were fine with what I did to them, but they never asked for cunnilingus themselves. The ex-wife talked about her friend, who loved cunnilingus so much, that even under alcohol she persuaded another friend to lick her). This incident immediately cheered me up; such initiative people have always attracted me).
This is my real experience).
Our forum also has a specific selection.
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Ksenofont: ↑29 Nov 2023, 00:27
So Abramovich and Friedman disgust you? You’ve had enough, my friend! So it’s not far from the article.
Which article? They are vile people, in my opinion. I have the right to hate. If you think otherwise, it’s your right.
I remembered businessman Dmitry Potapenko, who openly stated that the best employee is a divorcee with two children. People who live at the expense of society, who exploit society for their own selfish purposes, cannot cause anything but disgust in a normal person. Parasites!!!
[quote="Hooligan Carrie" post_id=296060 time=1701248412 user_id=18654] look, at least here on the forum. The survey you provided - what kind of focus group is this? Age? Venue? [/quote] I provided at least some statistics). And on your part there are only unfounded statements and criticism). I had several dozen girls and women, approximately. Two women completely refused - they don’t like cunnilingus, the rest were fine with what I did to them, but they never asked for cunnilingus themselves. The ex-wife talked about her friend, who loved cunnilingus so much, that even under alcohol she persuaded another friend to lick her). This incident immediately cheered me up; such initiative people have always attracted me). This is my real experience). Our forum also has a specific selection.
[size =85][color=green]Sent after 11 minutes 10 seconds:[/color][/size] [quote=Ksenofont post_id=296035 time=1701246458 user_id=17996] So Abramovich and Friedman disgust you? You’ve had enough, my friend! So it’s not far from the article. [/quote] Which article? They are vile people, in my opinion. I have the right to hate. If you think otherwise, it’s your right. I remembered businessman Dmitry Potapenko, who openly stated that the best employee is a divorcee with two children. People who live at the expense of society, who exploit society for their own selfish purposes, cannot cause anything but disgust in a normal person. Parasites!!!
vvm: ↑28 Nov 2023, 15:14
Women don’t write about blowjobs when they want sex and don’t give blowjobs without reciprocity. What’s the point of doing cunnilingus without sex?
I was just reading advertisements on the same site as you about blowjob without reciprocity, from young girls.
[quote=vvm post_id=295844 time=1701213253 user_id=18147] Women don’t write about blowjobs when they want sex and don’t give blowjobs without reciprocity. What’s the point of doing cunnilingus without sex? [/quote] I was just reading advertisements on the same site as you about blowjob without reciprocity, from young girls.
Serg_A: ↑29 Nov 2023, 08:19
I was just reading an advertisement, on the same site as you, about blowjobs without reciprocity, from young girls.
I have never met one). Keep in mind that men often write there. An incomprehensible "lady" sent a photo to a friend). He showed it to me, he said, I don’t understand, man?
I wrote it myself just out of curiosity, the ad was unusual. He admitted that he was a man, impotent, and had been looking for cunnilingus for a long time without success. I decided that it would be easier for him to offer himself as a woman. There’s enough of that there.
[quote=Serg_A post_id=299063 time=1701274756 user_id=18010] I was just reading an advertisement, on the same site as you, about blowjobs without reciprocity, from young girls. [/quote] I have never met one). Keep in mind that men often write there. An incomprehensible "lady" sent a photo to a friend). He showed it to me, he said, I don’t understand, man? I wrote it myself just out of curiosity, the ad was unusual. He admitted that he was a man, impotent, and had been looking for cunnilingus for a long time without success. I decided that it would be easier for him to offer himself as a woman. There’s enough of that there.
What conditions might there be for me, etc.?
I’m just still inexperienced and in the future I’m going to move to another city. At the same time, I am quite prominent - tall, athletic, stately. And...
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Hello dear ladies, are there any Samara cunts on the forum? Interesting to see your beautiful baby; flower,))) anonymously so you can find out how things really are with beauty in Samara)
After all, women drive much more carefully than men, they don’t drive too fast, they don’t drive on the side of the road, they don’t climb out of the second row)
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More minor accidents due to excessive caution.
After all, women drive much more carefully than men, they don’t speed, they don’t drive on the side of the road, they don’t get in the second row)
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