The most hated actors, singers from the USSR and after

Unread post by **Livrik** » 20 Dec 2022, 07:22

I would like to know from the members of the forum who they hate the most from "Bohemia" of the times of the USSR and present-day Russia

Unread post by **Mongoose** » 20 Dec 2022, 10:13

Joseph Kobzon, Philip Kirkorov, Lyudmila Zykina, Olga Buzova, Matvey Melnikov (mot), Tender May, Masha Rasputina, Igor Nikolaev, Oleg Gazmanov, Edita Piekha, Irina Alegrova, Valentina Tolkunova, Dmitry Malikov, Vyacheslav Malezhik, Alla Pugacheva, Dobrynin I don’t even want to list all the singing cowards. Vladimir Kuzmin, Valery Leontyev, Lev Leshchenko, Leps, Kristina Arbakaite, Dima Bilan. Stas Mikhailov, Taisiya Povaliy, Nikolay Baskov,... all the rappers - indiscriminately.))) and perhaps a couple dozen more performers whom I don’t even remember because I practically didn’t listen to them!

Unread post by **The passage** » 20 Dec 2022, 10:20

Mongoose: ↑20 Dec 2022, 10:13 Iosif Kobzon, Philip Kirkorov, Lyudmila Zykina, Olga Buzova, Matvey Melnikov (mot), Tender May, Masha Rasputina, Igor Nikolaev, Oleg Gazmanov, Edita Piekha, Irina Alegrova, Valentina Tolkunova, Dmitry Malikov, Vyacheslav Malezhik, Alla Pugache va , Vyacheslav Dobrynin, all the singing cowards - I don’t even want to list them. Vladimir Kuzmin, Valery Leontyev, Lev Leshchenko, Leps, Kristina Arbakaite, Dima Bilan. Stas Mikhailov, Taisiya Povaliy, Nikolay Baskov,... all the rappers - indiscriminately.))) and perhaps a couple dozen more performers whom I don’t even remember because I practically didn’t listen to them!

Oh, no Would it be easier for you to answer that you don’t love anyone?) I didn’t have to list it for so long)

Unread post by **Mongoose** » 20 Dec 2022, 10:27

Marinka: ↑20 Dec 2022, 10:20 And, wouldn’t it have been easier for you to answer that you don’t love anyone?) It didn’t take so long to list

It was boring......pussies , members, vulvas and other monotony are tired! (that’s what I remembered

) Please fill up the forum with poetry for a change

:)

Unread post by **The passage** » 20 Dec 2022, 10:30

Mongoose: ↑20 Dec 2022, 10:27
Marinka: ↑20 Dec 2022, 10:20 Wasn’t it easier for you to answer that you don’t love anyone?) I didn’t have to list it for so long
It was boring... ... pussies, penises, vulvas and other monotony are tired! (that’s what I remembered ) Please fill up the forum with poetry for a change :)

do you write poetry?)

Unread post by **Fan96** » 20 Dec 2022, 10:31

What the heck... Why Kuzya??? One of the dinosaurs of Russian rock!
It’s funny to me his first albums!
Well, grandpa, you’re harmful

Unread post by **Mongoose** » 20 Dec 2022, 10:40

Marinka: ↑20 Dec 2022, 10:30 do you write poetry?)

No, no, no, Pushkin, Omar Khayyam, Lermontov, Alexander Cherny, Vasily Trediakovsky.

Unread post by **The passage** » 20 Dec 2022, 10:41

Mongoose: ↑20 Dec 2022, 10:40
Marinka: ↑20 Dec 2022, 10:30 do you write poetry?)
No, no, no, Pushkin, Omar Khayyam, Lermontov, Alexander Cherny, Vasily Trediakovsky .

Sorry

Unread post by **Mongoose** » 20 Dec 2022, 10:42

Fan96: ↑20 Dec 2022, 10:31 Whoa... Why Kuzyu??? One of the dinosaurs of Russian rock!
It’s funny to me his first albums!
Well, grandpa, you’re harmful

nGrandfather???? Wow, infection!

Unread post by **Fat man** » 20 Dec 2022, 10:55

Of the Soviet ones, I would probably hate anyone, but of the modern ones, many are truly disgusting, I won’t even list them, I’ll just say that I could also add directors, screenwriters and composers to the list of actors and musicians.

Unread post by **Timur59** » 20 Dec 2022, 11:06

Mongoose: ↑20 Dec 2022, 10:40 No, no, no, no, Pushkin, Omar Khayyam, Lermontov, Alexander Cherny, Vasily Trediakovsky.

And Lermontov himself was a black personality ....
Add Baratynsky, Rudaki, Yesenin, Chekhov to your list....

Unread post by **Mongoose** » 20 Dec 2022, 11:16

Timur59: ↑20 Dec 2022, 11:06 And Lermontov himself was a black personality....
Add Baratynsky, Rudaki, Yesenin, Chekhov to your list....

OOO yeah, Baratynsky!!! Thank you . I don’t consider Lermontov as a person, only his work!

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Fat Man: ↑20 Dec 2022, 10:55 Of the Soviet ones, I would probably hate anyone, but of the modern ones, many are truly disgusting, I won’t even list them, I will only say that I could also add directors, screenwriters and composers to the list of actors and musicians.

Whoa, they swung! It will be a whole Klondike of rusty gold!

Unread post by **Livrik** » 21 Dec 2022, 02:36

Mikhalkov, Urganty all, Batalov, Alentova and her husband the director, Gaidai almost the entire cinema of the Soviet and post-Soviet period

Unread post by **Shamanakas** » 21 Dec 2022, 13:01

As a person who saw the 90s as a child, I understand the roots of mass dislike for the post-Soviet cultural intelligentsia. Often this dislike is expressed in such a way that it seems to be a matter of hatred towards educated people in general or even specifically towards some national minorities. Although this happens, as a rule, the matter is different.
The fact is that the late Soviet intelligentsia was a kind of unified cultural environment, united by “big literary magazines,” common music, and samizdat. In this environment there were some moral symbols, usually from the literary, artistic, musical and humanities backgrounds. And this environment was permeated with a sense of messianism, that they were more correct, cultural and moral. This feeling stemmed from the special role of the intelligentsia in Russia during the second half of the 19th and first half of the 20th century, when it was generally a special cultural phenomenon.
During the events of perestroika, this entire mass of people followed the liberal faction of the nomenklatura , naively believing in liberal reforms and the market miracle (in some places seasoned with romantic nationalism). Further events developed in a manner that is well known; market reforms turned into disaster, poverty and war for millions of people. The belief in the miracle of the market disappeared for the most part, and millions of people felt deeply deceived. And the "liberal faction" in 1993 turned out to be not particularly democratic, having shot the opposition parliament and drowned the protest in blood.

And at this moment the overwhelming majority of the moral symbols of the intelligentsia of the 80s x chose to remain on the side of the liberal government, the president and"market reforms". The luminaries of the intelligentsia signed the famous letter 42x, supported the repression of supporters of the Soviets and shouted at the top of their lungs “crush the reptile.” I still saw the calls of that time.
Back then they probably still thought that a lot of people were with them, like in 1991. But on New Year’s Eve, with the announcement of the parliamentary results, a shock occurred: the people for the most part were against them, against the president’s course and against the “Western market utopia,” as they saw it. Then a lot of the luminaries of the late Soviet intelligentsia said something like “the people are not the same.”
At the same time, the unified cultural environment of the intelligentsia was rapidly disintegrating, as one part found itself showered with money and treated kindly by the new government, and the other fell into poverty. Those who were favored had direct material reasons to continue any support for the authorities and the continuation of reforms. And these people were the ones who were most visible. And it was with them that the cultural intelligentsia was ultimately associated with everyone.
This is how things continued until this year and the shock of the events taking place. Up until 1922, this entire group of people, detached from the people and increasingly shrinking, from the cultural elite “close to the authorities and budgets,” basically engaged in self-justification in all their works of art (theater, cinema and music), covering up that role , which she herself played in the events of the 90s.
A significant part of the population of our country understands this, although sometimes more on an intuitive level than on a strictly reflected one. This is where the roots of hatred come from. I also remember how many very good actors, musicians, and writers in the 90s said such things about our people and history, made such monstrous social comments that even as a child my ears went cold. Now they would probably disown it. But people remember.

The point is that not everyone was like that. Not all artists, musicians, writers and, in general, not all representatives of the post-Soviet intelligentsia committed a massive betrayal of their ideals, turning into cultural servants of thieves from the former bureaucracy. Moreover, I am sure that this does not concern the majority of the mass stratum of this intelligentsia. For the most part, many teachers, scientists, and engineers quickly realized that they had been duped, although it was too late. But even among the “moral leaders,” there were many people who showed great moral fortitude and maintained a worthy civic position in the 80s, 90s and zeros. These people don’t have “interviews that you’ll be ashamed of 20 years later.” And it was precisely such people, as a rule, who were the real creators who made art for which there is no shame.

Everyone knows about the Mikhalkov weather vane. But there was also Vladimir Menshov, Pyotr Lutsik. And Balabanov, in general.
Everyone knows about Pugacheva, Kobzon and half of the Russian rockers. But there were also Letov, Kuryokhin and many musicians who far surpassed the opportunists in cultural significance. The style of music doesn’t matter here. The same group "Tatu" within the framework of a completely mainstream stage is worth ten Pugachevs.
And in poetry there was Boris the Red...

So it is completely wrong to paint all post-Soviet cultural creators with the same world. There were plenty of worthy people and creators of real art there.

Unread post by **BackAgain** » 21 Dec 2022, 20:32

Fuck, who are all these people listed? Why so much hate?

Of course I know some, but the rest of the mass?
The thread smells strongly of mothballs.

Make a topic who you like from modern stars/cunts. Here you can overclock it would be

Unread post by **Din71** » 21 Dec 2022, 20:38

Valery Leontiev - for his idiotic costumes. Kirkorov is simply disgusting. Pugacheva is a scary woman, it’s not clear why many people consider her a “prima donna.” I also couldn’t stand Bulanova for her mournful singing.

Unread post by **dDem** » 22 Dec 2022, 09:14

Bulanova is cool, especially in her videos, I would sleep with her with pleasure))

Unread post by **Shamanakas** » 22 Dec 2022, 09:54

BackAgain: ↑21 Dec 2022, 20:32 Fuck, who are all these people listed? Why so much hate?
Of course I know some, but the rest of the mass?
The thread smells strongly of mothballs.

Make a topic who you like from modern stars/cunts. Here it would be possible to accelerate

"Modern stars" do not exist.
In the form in which the "stars" were in the 90s and 00s, this no longer exists. Because back then it was primarily television and radio that made a star. If your songs got into rotation, on music channels, on music radio, in the worst case, on broadcast pop concerts, then the group was recognized. And since television had federal coverage, everyone recognized her.
Now a turning point has occurred when the generation of people who for the most part do not watch television are over 30. And the majority draws both news and all cultural content from social networks, thematic blogs and tubes. And the coverage of each such channel is not comparable to television. And therefore, the musical field was fragmented into thematic musical fields according to genres and niches, which have their own “stars”, but outside this niche they are unknown. So there are a lot of very talented and prolific musicians who you have most likely never heard because you are not interested in the corresponding genre.
Exceptions like morningstern and Instagram are not related to music, but to the bet on scandal and successful hype. But even in this case, if you don’t listen to the corresponding genre, then you almost certainly haven’t heard their actual songs.
Look, the culture of “show business stars” copied from the West has died/is dying, and that’s where she belongs.

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And if you really want to discuss "stars" in terms of the stupid conversation "Who would I fuck", then why discuss musicians in a world where porn stars have long been in the media, give interviews, run their own social networks and often much more more popular and famous than the average good singer?

Unread post by **Kayfolov** » 25 Dec 2022, 18:58

I don’t know practically anyone from modern pop music, because I don’t watch the zombie box and only select radio stations. But I ran into Buzova a couple of times, the most disgusting thing for the mind.

Unread post by **Din71** » 25 Dec 2022, 19:35

dDem: ↑22 Dec 2022, 09:14 Bulanova is cool, especially in her videos, I would sleep with her with pleasure))

I don’t argue - a beautiful woman. But her old songs make me sad.

Unread post by **Livrik** » 27 Dec 2022, 03:58

Elena Yakovleva - there is information that at the age of 18 she was engaged in prostitution in Kharkov, which is why she got the main role in Interdevochka.

Unread post by **Vladtsst** » 27 Dec 2022, 04:26

I don’t know any of the modern Russians at all. Of the Soviet ones, I can’t stand Leontyev and Pugacheva. Who else was there? I don’t remember anymore. I was never interested in either Soviet or Russian pop music. She always irritated me with her obsessiveness pouring out of all the cracks.

Unread post by **ask61** » 13 Feb 2023, 22:36

All Soviet pop music is hateful! Solid plywood workers are voiceless. And the most hated one is the wisecracker Leontyev with a bleached anus.

Unread post by **Tanya** » 13 Feb 2023, 22:41

Livrik: ↑27 Dec 2022, 03:58 Elena Yakovleva - there is information that at the age of 18 she was engaged in prostitution in Kharkov, that’s why she got the main role in Interdevochka.

Yes, I’m also in I read this in the fields of the Internet. But it’s hard to believe because they write this...

06 Apr 2023, 02:00

In principle, there were very talented performers in the USSR. All sorts of garbage were simply not allowed on TV. And now for some reason I feel homesick for censorship. I tried to watch Muz TV a couple of times, so what? There is no voice, there is no meaning at all, the faces are not memorable, and they are not particularly shown. Tits, asses, yachts. Who is poorer - tits, asses, cars. That’s all creativity is.

Unread post by **Tanya** » 06 Apr 2023, 02:10

Yes this is true. A certain non-politicized censorship is needed. This is very difficult to achieve, but complete lack of control in art ultimately leads to the loss of entire generations of young people.
Not very long ago I heard a speech by K. Raikin where he spoke very sharply, even rudely, about the fact that someone was bothering him someone doesn’t give him money, or more precisely a dollar of money, and then asks the question why such a mediocre performance. They are all bohemians who want not to pay taxes, they want lack of control, declaring some kind of internal censorship of art itself. But in reality they want to steal with impunity (in fact, how else can they explain that so much money was taken for this or that film or performance and the collection is 1000 times less) But they don’t like modern stars who don’t represent anything but meddle in everything as political and economic spheres of the state. And they do this through the complete privitization of the media.

Unread post by **Wolffr** » 06 Apr 2023, 02:47

I’m generally silent about this fagot Kirkorov!!! I won’t say anything at all about the current stage, but there are some that are not bad, and you can listen to them, but mostly they are disposable, I sang with hype and died down... I was brought up by the Soviet school, there were a lot of good singers there, and there was a lot of censorship, but still they all sang in their own voice, there was little or no plywood. Listen to Stas Namin, The Blue Bird and many things, even The Time Machine, thundered in those days. And then the curtain fell and all the blackness flooded in...
And folk songs still live!!!
You can kick me, criticize me, but it was like that.

Unread post by **Tapkin** » 06 Apr 2023, 03:19

Let’s leave "Major Tomin" .. the rest "GET OFF THE BEACH"!)))
https://i.postimg.cc/jjBGH1Kn/image.jpg

Unread post by **Wolffr** » 06 Apr 2023, 03:23

But did the actors who are no longer with us play poorly, this is the film "Officers"!!!

Unread post by **Tapkin** » 06 Apr 2023, 03:28

Tania: ↑13 Feb 2023, 22:41
Livrik: ↑27 Dec 2022, 03:58 Elena Yakovleva - there is information that at the age of 18 she was engaged in prostitution in Kharkov, which is why she got the main role in Interdevochka.
nYes, I also read this on the Internet. But it’s hard to believe because they write that there...

..I even know where and why..well, that’s a lot to believe in that lady overkill for sure!((

07 Apr 2023, 03:40

Livrik: ↑27 Dec 2022, 03:58 Elena Yakovleva - there is information that at the age of 18 she was engaged in prostitution in Kharkov, which is why she got the main role in Interdevochka.

Even if so . That doesn’t make her play worse

Unread post by **Lerunchik** » 17 Apr 2023, 21:36

Of the modern actors, I can’t stand Alexander Petrov and Danila Kozlovsky. Over-promoted, there’s nowhere else to go. And in all of them they play the same roles)
Of our modern performers... I honestly can’t say who I like))

Unread post by **Serg_A** » 17 Apr 2023, 23:19

I hate them as people, but I love Efremov Jr. and Akhedzhakova as actors, and I can say the same about Mikhalkov. Makarevich is a rare bastard, but some songs are listenable. I won’t list them all. I wrote what I remembered.

Unread post by **Helen B.I.** » 18 Apr 2023, 00:54

S. E. R. A. F. II. M: ↑06 Apr 2023, 02:00 I tried to watch Muz TV a couple of times, so what? There is no voice, there is no meaning at all, faces are not memorable, and they are not particularly shown.

MuzTV has always been not so much about music, but about "singing cowards ".

Unread post by **niqk** » 20 Jun 2023, 08:55

When I was 7 years old, I heard Czech Dixieland at some exhibition. AND ALL!!! Got hooked on jazz, blues, rock! And since then I listen
only to this kind of music. Moreover, not modern, but classics: somewhere from Country to Be-bop...

Unread post by **Andrey Lukashov** » 20 Jun 2023, 09:04

Mongoose: ↑20 Dec 2022, 10:13 Iosif Kobzon, Philip Kirkorov, Lyudmila Zykina, Olga Buzova, Matvey Melnikov (mot), Tender May, Masha Rasputina, Igor Nikolaev, Oleg Gazmanov, Edita Piekha, Irina Alegrova, Valentina Tolkunova, Dmitry Malikov, Vyacheslav Malezhik, Alla Pugache va , Vyacheslav Dobrynin, all the singing cowards - I don’t even want to list them. Vladimir Kuzmin, Valery Leontyev, Lev Leshchenko, Leps, Kristina Arbakaite, Dima Bilan. Stas Mikhailov, Taisiya Povaliy, Nikolay Baskov,... all the rappers - indiscriminately.))) and perhaps a couple dozen more performers whom I don’t even remember because I practically didn’t listen to them!

In addition to this, Muslim Magomayev, Roza Rymbaeva, Vladimir Migulya and .... Vladimir Putin :)

Unread post by **Serge12345** » 21 Jun 2023, 04:53

The most hated: Pugacheva, Galkin, Makarevich, Panin, Zemfira, Vaikule......

Unread post by **Cyrus Tabor** » 21 Jun 2023, 06:59

The most hated: Leps, Loza, Gazmanovs (both), Rastorguev, Dolina, Shnur......

Unread post by **Bully Carrie** » 21 Jun 2023, 07:25

Even I think “I hate” is too strong a word. I don’t like anyone, but to hate...

Unread post by **AlexTDV** » 21 Jun 2023, 07:33

Yes, almost everyone, most mediocrities, occupied television and radio in the 90s and early 00s, the same faces, fortunately now with the development of the Internet and choice, no one needs it for nothing)

Unread post by **German1** » 21 Jun 2023, 07:53

Interesting topic. Who then are the most “hated”, i.e. good?

Unread post by **niqk** » 21 Jun 2023, 07:55

Hooligan Carrie: ↑21 Jun 2023, 07:25 Although I think "I hate" is too strong a word. I don’t like anyone, but to hate...

Yeah... Chota remembered the old cowboy slogan: don’t shoot a musician - he plays the best he can!

Unread post by **King Bird** » 21 Jun 2023, 08:22

Serge12345: ↑21 Jun 2023, 04:53 The most hated: Pugacheva, Galkin, Makarevich, Panin, Zemfira, Vaikule......

Why didn’t you name Akhedzhakova and Grebenshchikov? Not savvy enough in the party spirit, or what?

Cyrus Tabor: ↑21 Jun 2023, 06:59 The most hated: Leps, Loza, Gazmanovs (both), Rastorguev, Dolina, Shnur......

And you clearly forgot about Pevtsov and Baskov. I agree with the other examples. Although the smaller Gazmanov seems to be harmless and no one has needed for a long time.

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German1: ↑21 Jun 2023, 07:53 Interesting topic. Who then are the most "hated", i.e. good?

In general, I somehow can’t imagine who is on our stage or even rock - does the scene evoke sympathy? In the 90s, some rock musicians tried to do something similar to rock, perhaps Kinchev or Shevchuk. Of the current ones, guitarist Didyulya, for example, is not bad in his own way. Almost all of the stage sucks. I watched the reunion of Tattoo from Minsk with little interest (one of them can at least sing). And then they cheated, sang three and a half songs and that was it. But this is all my subjective opinion, of course. In general, I listen exclusively to Western music.

Unread post by **German1** » 21 Jun 2023, 08:55

King Zogu: ↑21 Jun 2023, 08:27 And in general I listen exclusively to Western music.

I would like to expand the topic, so to speak. And about Western music as well. I like it the most from the Russian (USSR): if it’s rock music; Kalinov Bridge, Aquarium, something from DDT...; from western rock prog 70-2....(King Crimson, Yes, Genesis, Ozric Tentacles, Pink Floyd, etc.)... I would like to hear the opinions of others..

Unread post by **King Bird** » 21 Jun 2023, 09:02

German1, it’s better not to write about idols in this topic, here the hate was initially set.

Unread post by **Serge12345** » 21 Jun 2023, 09:21

King Zogu, time was running out. And that’s what he called it himself

Unread post by **King Bird** » 21 Jun 2023, 20:30

Serge12345, I’m just looking into the party manuals out of curiosity.

Unread post by **Veronica** » 22 Jul 2023, 08:31

Mongoose: ↑20 Dec 2022, 10:13 Iosif Kobzon, Philip Kirkorov, Lyudmila Zykina, Olga Buzova, Matvey Melnikov (mot), Tender May, Masha Rasputina, Igor Nikolaev, Oleg Gazmanov, Edita Piekha, Irina Alegrova, Valentina Tolkunova, Dmitry Malikov, Vyacheslav Malezhik, Alla Pugache va , Vyacheslav Dobrynin, all the singing cowards - I don’t even want to list them. Vladimir Kuzmin, Valery Leontyev, Lev Leshchenko, Leps, Kristina Arbakaite, Dima Bilan. Stas Mikhailov, Taisiya Povaliy, Nikolay Baskov,... all the rappers - indiscriminately.))) and perhaps a couple dozen more performers whom I don’t even remember because I practically didn’t listen to them!
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Mongoose: ↑ Joseph Kobzon, Philip Kirkorov, Lyudmila Zykina, Olga Buzova, Matvey Melnikov (mot), Tender May, Masha Rasputina, Igor Nikolaev, Oleg Gazmanov, Edita Piekha, Irina Alegrova, Valentina Tolkunova, Dmitry Malikov, Vyacheslav Malezhik , Alla Pugacheva, Vyacheslav Dobrynin, all the singing cowards - I don’t even want to list them. Vladimir Kuzmin, Valery Leontyev, Lev Leshchenko, Leps, Kristina Arbakaite, Dima Bilan. Stas Mikhailov, Taisiya Povaliy, Nikolay Baskov,... all the rappers - indiscriminately.))) and perhaps a couple dozen more performers whom I don’t even remember because I practically didn’t listen to them!
And, wasn’t it easier for you to answer that you don’t love anyone?) You didn’t have to list it for so long)
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Marinka: ↑ Oh, wouldn’t it be easier for you to answer that don’t you love anyone?) I didn’t have to list it for so long
It was boring......pussies, dicks, vulvas and other monotony got boring! (that’s what I remembered) Please fill up the forum with poems for a change
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It was boring...... I’m tired of pussies, dicks, vulvas and other monotony! (that’s what I remembered) Please fill up the forum with poetry for a change
do you write poetry?)
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Whoa... Kuzyu for what??? One of the dinosaurs of Russian rock!
It’s funny to me about his first albums!
Well, grandpa, you’re harmful
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Marinka: ↑ do you write poetry?)
No, no, no, Pushkin, Omar Khayyam, Lermontov, Alexander Cherny, Vasily Trediakovsky.
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Marinka: ↑ you write poetry?)
No, no, not what, Pushkin, Omar Khayyam, Lermontov, Alexander Cherny, Vasily Trediakovsky.
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Fan96: ↑ Fuck... Kuzyu for what??? One of the dinosaurs of Russian rock!
It’s funny to me his first albums!
Well, grandfather, you’re harmful
Grandfather ???? Wow, infection!
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From the Soviet ones so as not to hate anyone, probably from the modern ones many are truly disgusting, I won’t even list them, I’ll just say that I could also add directors, screenwriters and composers to the list of actors and musicians.
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Mongoose: ↑ No, no, not what, Pushkin, Omar Khayyam, Lermontov, Alexander Cherny, Vasily Trediakovsky.
And Lermontov himself was a black personality. ...
Add Baratynsky, Rudaki, Yesenin, Chekhov to your list....
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Timur59: ↑ And Lermontov himself was a black personality....
Add Baratynsky, Rudaki, Yesenin, Chekhov to your list....
nOOOO yeah, Baratynsky!!! Thank you . I don’t consider Lermontov as a person, only his work!

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Fat man: ↑ Of the Soviet ones, so as not to hate anyone, probably, of the modern ones, very many truly disgusting, I won’t even list them, I’ll just say that I could also add directors, screenwriters and composers to the list of actors and musicians.
Whoa! It will be a whole Klondike of rusty gold!
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Mikhalkov, Urganty everything, Batalov, Alentova and her husband the director, Gaidai practically the entire cinema of the Soviet and post-Soviet period

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I, as a person who saw the 90s as a child, understand the roots of the mass dislike for the post-Soviet cultural intelligentsia. Often this dislike is expressed in such a way that it seems to be a matter of hatred towards educated people in general or even specifically towards some national minorities. Although this happens, as a rule, the matter is different.
The fact is that the late Soviet intelligentsia was a kind of unified cultural environment, united by “big literary magazines,” common music, and samizdat. In this environment there were some moral symbols, usually from the literary, artistic, musical and humanities backgrounds. And this environment was permeated with a sense of messianism, that they were more correct, cultural and moral. This feeling stemmed from the special role of the intelligentsia in Russia during the second half of the 19th and first half of the 20th century, when it was generally a special cultural phenomenon.
During the events of perestroika, this entire mass of people followed the liberal faction of the nomenklatura , naively believing in liberal reforms and the market miracle (in some places seasoned with romantic nationalism). Further events developed in a manner that is well known; market reforms turned into disaster, poverty and war for millions of people. The belief in the miracle of the market disappeared for the most part, and millions of people felt deeply deceived. And the "liberal faction" in 1993 turned out to be not particularly democratic, having shot the opposition parliament and drowned the protest in blood.

And at this moment the overwhelming majority of the moral symbols of the intelligentsia of the 80s x chose to remain on the side of the liberal government, the president and"market reforms". The luminaries of the intelligentsia signed the famous letter 42x, supported the repression of supporters of the Soviets and shouted at the top of their lungs “crush the reptile.” I still saw the calls of that time.
Back then they probably still thought that a lot of people were with them, like in 1991. But on New Year’s Eve, with the announcement of the parliamentary results, a shock occurred: the people for the most part were against them, against the president’s course and against the “Western market utopia,” as they saw it. Then a lot of the luminaries of the late Soviet intelligentsia said something like “the people are not the same.”
At the same time, the unified cultural environment of the intelligentsia was rapidly disintegrating, as one part found itself showered with money and treated kindly by the new government, and the other fell into poverty. Those who were favored had direct material reasons to continue any support for the authorities and the continuation of reforms. And these people were the ones who were most visible. And it was with them that the cultural intelligentsia was ultimately associated with everyone.
This is how things continued until this year and the shock of the events taking place. Until 1922, this entire group of people from the “close to power and budgets” cultural elite, breaking away from the people and increasingly shrinking, was engaged in self-justification in all their works of art (theatre, cinema and music), covering up that role , which she herself played in the events of the 90s.
A significant part of the population of our country understands this, although sometimes more on an intuitive level than on a strictly reflected one. This is where the roots of hatred come from. I also remember how many very good actors, musicians, and writers in the 90s said such things about our people and history, made such monstrous social comments that even as a child my ears went cold. Now they would probably disown it. But people remember.

The point is that not everyone was like that. Not all artists, musicians, writers and, in general, not all representatives of the post-Soviet intelligentsia committed a massive betrayal of their ideals, turning into cultural servants of thieves from the former bureaucracy. Moreover, I am sure that this does not concern the majority of the mass stratum of this intelligentsia. For the most part, many teachers, scientists, and engineers quickly realized that they had been duped, although it was too late. But even among the “moral leaders,” there were many people who showed great moral fortitude and maintained a worthy civic position in the 80s, 90s and zeros. These people don’t have “interviews that you’ll be ashamed of 20 years later.” And it was precisely such people, as a rule, who were the real creators who made art for which there is no shame.

Everyone knows about the Mikhalkov weather vane. But there was also Vladimir Menshov, Pyotr Lutsik. And Balabanov, in general.
Everyone knows about Pugacheva, Kobzon and half of the Russian rockers. But there were also Letov, Kuryokhin and many musicians who far surpassed the opportunists in cultural significance. The style of music doesn’t matter here. The same group "Tatu" within the framework of a completely mainstream stage is worth ten Pugachevs.
And in poetry there was Boris the Red...

So it is completely wrong to paint all post-Soviet cultural creators with the same world. There were enough worthy people and creators of real art there.
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Unread message Dec 22, 2022, 08:32

Fuck, who all of these listed? Why so much hate?
I know some of them, of course, but the rest?
The thread smells strongly of mothballs.

Make a topic about which of the modern stars/cunts you like. That’s where it would be possible to accelerate
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Unread message Dec 22, 2022, 08:38

Valery Leontiev - for his idiotic costumes. Kirkorov is simply disgusting. Pugacheva is a scary woman, it’s not clear why many people consider her a “prima donna.” I also couldn’t stand Bulanova for her mournful singing.
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Bulanova cool, especially in the videos, I would sleep with her with pleasure))
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BackAgain: ↑ Fuck, who are all these people listed? Why so much hate?
I know some of them, of course, but the rest?
The thread smells strongly of mothballs.

Make a topic about which of the modern stars/cunts you like. That’s where you could accelerate it would be
"Modern stars" do not exist.
In the form in which the "stars" were in the 90s and 00s, this no longer exists. Because back then it was primarily television and radio that made a star. If your songs got into rotation, on music channels, on music radio, in the worst case, on broadcast pop concerts, then the group was recognized. And since television had federal coverage, everyone recognized her.
Now a turning point has occurred when the generation of people who for the most part do not watch television are over 30. And the majority draws both news and all cultural content from social networks, thematic blogs and tubes. And the coverage of each such channel is not comparable to television. And therefore, the musical field was fragmented into thematic musical fields according to genres and niches, which have their own “stars”, but outside this niche they are unknown. So there are a lot of very talented and prolific musicians who you have most likely never heard because you are not interested in the corresponding genre.
Exceptions like morningstern and Instagram are not related to music, but to the bet on scandal and successful hype. But even in this case, if you don’t listen to the corresponding genre, then you almost certainly haven’t heard their actual songs.
Look, the culture of “show business stars” copied from the West has died/is dying, and that’s where she belongs.

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And if you really want to discuss "stars" in terms of stupid conversation "who would I fuck ", then why discuss musicians in a world where porn stars have long been in the media, give interviews, run their own social networks and are often much more popular and well-known than the average good singer?
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I don’t know practically anyone from modern pop music, because I don’t watch the zombie box and only selected stations on the radio. But I ran into Buzova a couple of times, the most disgusting action for the mind.
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I don’t argue - a beautiful woman. But her old songs make me sad.
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Elena Yakovleva - There is information that at the age of 18 she was engaged in prostitution in Kharkov, which is why she got the main role in Interdevochka.
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I don’t know any of the modern Russians at all. Of the Soviet ones, I can’t stand Leontyev and Pugacheva. Who else was there? I don’t remember anymore. I was never interested in either Soviet or Russian pop music. I have always been annoying with my obsession pouring out of all the cracks.
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All Soviet pop music is hateful! Solid plywood workers are voiceless. And the most hated one is the asshole Leontiev with a bleached anus.
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Livrik : ↑ Elena Yakovleva - there is information that at the age of 18 she was engaged in prostitution in Kharkov, which is why she got the main role in Interdevochka.
Yes, I also read this in the margins of the Internet. But it’s hard to believe because they write this....
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In principle, there were very talented performers in the USSR. All sorts of garbage were simply not allowed on TV. And now for some reason I feel homesick for censorship. I tried to watch Muz TV a couple of times, so what? There is no voice, there is no meaning at all, the faces are not memorable, and they are not particularly shown. Tits, asses, yachts. Who is poorer - tits, asses, cars. That’s all creativity.
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Yes, it really is. A certain non-politicized censorship is needed. This is very difficult to achieve, but complete lack of control in art ultimately leads to the loss of entire generations of young people.
Not very long ago I heard a speech by K. Raikin where he spoke very sharply, even rudely, about the fact that someone was bothering him someone doesn’t give him money, or more precisely a dollar of money, and then asks the question why such a mediocre performance. They are all bohemians who want not to pay taxes, they want lack of control, declaring some kind of internal censorship of art itself. But in reality they want to steal with impunity (in fact, how else can they explain that so much money was taken for this or that film or performance and the collection is 1000 times less) But they don’t like modern stars who don’t represent anything but meddle in everything as political and economic spheres of the state. And they do this through the complete privitization of the media.
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Unread message April 06, 2023, 13:47

I’m generally silent about this fagot Kirkorov!!! I won’t say anything at all about the current stage, but there are some that are not bad, and you can listen to them, but mostly they are disposable, I sang with hype and died down... I was brought up by the Soviet school, there were a lot of good singers there, and there was a lot of censorship, but still they all sang in their own voice, there was little or no plywood. Listen to Stas Namin, The Blue Bird and many things, even The Time Machine, thundered in those days. And then the curtain fell and all the blackness flooded in...
And folk songs still live!!!
You can kick me, criticize me, but it was like that.
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But did the artists who are no longer with us play poorly, this is the film "Officers" !!!
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Unread message Apr 06, 2023, 14:28

Tania: ↑
Livrik: ↑ Elena Yakovleva - yes info that at the age of 18 she was engaged in prostitution in Kharkov, which is why she got the main role in Interdevochka.
Yes, I also read this in the margins of the Internet. But it’s hard to believe because they write such things there....
..I even know where and from what..well, believing that lady is definitely too much!((
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Livrik: ↑ Elena Yakovleva - there is information that at the age of 18 she was engaged in prostitution in Kharkov, which is why she got the main role in Intergirl.
Even if that’s the case. she didn’t play worse
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Unread message April 18, 2023, 08:36

Of modern actors, not I can’t stand Alexander Petrov and Danila Kozlovsky. They couldn’t be further promoted. And they all play the same roles)
Of our modern performers... I honestly can’t say who I like))
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I hate as people, but I love as actors Efremov Jr., Akhedzhakova , I can say the same about Mikhalkov. Makarevich is a rare bastard, but some songs are listenable. I won’t list them all. I wrote what I remembered.
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S. E.R.A.F. II. M: ↑ I tried to watch Muz TV a couple of times, so what? There is no voice, there is no meaning at all, the faces are not memorable, and they are not particularly shown.
MuzTV has always been not so much about music, but about "singing cowards".
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Unread message June 20, 2023, 19:55

When I was 7 years old, I heard Czech Dixieland at some exhibition. AND ALL!!! Got hooked on jazz, blues, rock! And since then I listen
only to this kind of music. Moreover, not modern, but classics: somewhere from Country to Be-bop...
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Mongoose: ↑ Joseph Kobzon, Philip Kirkorov, Lyudmila Zykina, Olga Buzova, Matvey Melnikov (mot), Tender May, Masha Rasputina, Igor Nikolaev, Oleg Gazmanov, Edita Piekha, Irina Alegrova, Valentina Tolkunova, Dmitry Malikov, Vyacheslav Malezhik, Alla Pugacheva, Vyacheslav Dobrynin, all the singing cowards - I don’t even want to list them. Vladimir Kuzmin, Valery Leontyev, Lev Leshchenko, Leps, Kristina Arbakaite, Dima Bilan. Stas Mikhailov, Taisiya Povaliy, Nikolay Baskov,... all the rappers - indiscriminately.))) and perhaps a couple dozen more performers whom I don’t even remember because I practically didn’t listen to them!
In addition to this, Muslim Magomayev, Roza Rymbaeva, Vladimir Migulya and .... Vladimir Putin:)
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The most hated: Pugacheva, Galkin, Makarevich, Panin, Zemfira, Vaikule......
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The most hated: Leps, Loza, Gazmanovs (both), Rastorguev, Dolina, Shnur... ....
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It seems to me that "I hate" is too strong a word. I don’t like anyone, but to hate...
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Yes, almost everyone, most of them mediocrities, occupied television and radio in the 90s and early 00s, the same faces, fortunately now with the development of the Internet and choice for nothing not needed)
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Unread message June 21 2023, 18:53

Interesting topic. Who then are the most "hated", i.e. good?
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Unread message June 21, 2023, 6:55 pm

Hooligan Carrie: ↑ Even I think “I hate” is too strong a word. I don’t like anyone, but to hate...
Yeah... Chota remembered the old cowboy slogan: don’t shoot a musician - he plays as best he can!
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Serge12345: ↑ The most hated: Pugacheva, Galkin, Makarevich, Panin, Zemfira, Vaikule..... .
Why didn’t you name Akhedzhakova and Grebenshchikov? Not savvy enough in the party spirit, or what?
Kir Favor: ↑ The most hated: Leps, Loza, Gazmanovs (both), Rastorguev, Dolina, Shnur......
And you are clearly I forgot about Pevtsov and Baskov. I agree with the other examples. Although the smaller Gazmanov seems to be harmless and no one has needed for a long time.

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German1: ↑ Interesting topic. Who then are the most “hated”, i.e. good?
In general, I somehow can’t imagine who evokes sympathy on our stage or even on the rock stage? In the 90s, some rock musicians tried to do something similar to rock, perhaps Kinchev or Shevchuk. Of the current ones, guitarist Didyulya, for example, is not bad in his own way. Almost all of the stage sucks. I watched the reunion of Tattoo from Minsk with little interest (one of them can at least sing). And then they cheated, sang three and a half songs and that was it. But this is all my subjective opinion, of course. And in general, I listen exclusively to Western music.
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Unread message June 21, 2023, 07:55 pm
King Zogu: ↑ In general, I listen exclusively to Western music.
I would like to expand the topic, so to speak. And about Western music as well. I like it the most from the Russian (USSR): if it’s rock music; Kalinov Bridge, Aquarium, something from DDT...; from Western rock prog 70-2....(King Crimson, Yes, Genesis, Ozric Tentacles, Pink Floyd, etc.)...I would like to hear the opinions of others..
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German1, it’s better not to write about idols in this thread, there’s hate from the start asked.
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Serge12345, I’m just looking into the party manuals out of curiosity.
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Since you don’t understand don’t bother with music. Probably still a boy. Mangelstern, etc. you like that kind of thing, Well, he didn’t say anything about ’Beatles’.
But with such a husband. You don’t know their culture either.
But the classics should at least be respected.

Unread post by **Satna666** » 24 Jul 2023, 10:41

Boris Moiseev and Shura are the kings of fagotism, burn them alive.

Unread post by **Mancuso** » 24 Jul 2023, 11:02

Initially, the topic was trolling.
Everyone has their own taste and vision.
Some may like it, others may not. Not only on our stage there is hackwork and mediocrity - it’s like that everywhere.
Nowadays - especially. What is our stage, what is Western - don’t understand what. But the current generation likes it.
And since this or that performer collects concerts, it means he is in demand. To love or not to love is a personal matter. Any answer, even a reasoned one, will be subjective

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