I want my wife's friend
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I want my wife’s friend
Without registration, you can create a topic only in this section. My story real. We regularly meet in groups (me with my wife, she with hers) We always sit next to each other (this has nothing to do with anyone’s feelings). And one day I tried to touch her, very lightly, but I’m sure she felt it. After that, this continues every time we meet. This is always the reaction. She moves away from me slightly. But she never sits back even a little further, so that I can’t touch her without telling others (although she has that opportunity) How can I understand her feelings?
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Re: I want my wife’s friend
Yuri Yuryevich,
You can grope no talk? Usually it’s the other way around... I advise you to talk to her and arrange an “unexpected” meeting at lunchtime....
You can grope no talk? Usually it’s the other way around... I advise you to talk to her and arrange an “unexpected” meeting at lunchtime....
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Re: I want my wife’s friend
I fucked my wife’s friends. Many broke for a long time but no one refused
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I think she doesn’t want to take the initiative first because she hasn’t yet decided how to treat you and what to allow or not allow you. But I think that all this will not last long. She’ll just get tired of thinking about you and that’ll be the end of it. That is, she will treat you like furniture.
What should you do with all this...
I think you need to somehow get this situation off the ground. There are probably some moves on her part in your direction. And probably she is somehow worried about all this, and maybe even during your get-togethers next to you, she gets all wet THERE. And in general, perhaps this whole situation turns her on and excites her. It’s very possible.
But she probably doesn’t know what to do with all this.
Next...
If you have a wife or girlfriend, then you need to carefully find out from her how she will react to your courtship of this woman. I heard from people that often wives or girlfriends have a positive attitude towards the fact that a husband or boyfriend will fuck this or that girlfriend. The main thing is that it doesn’t happen behind your back and doesn’t happen secretly. And if it’s almost at her suggestion, and also almost before her eyes, then in principle there’s nothing wrong.
Well, for example, they invited a friend to their dacha. The bathhouse was flooded. All three of us went to take a steam bath. They steamed, drank, and the husband eagerly fucked his wife right in front of his friend. She put on a robe and said - I’ll go into the house, have a snack, maybe take a nap a little - something made me tired. Don’t waste your time here without me. Whatever you do, come and get some sleep, the big bed has enough room for everyone. And now the wife really leaves and the husband has operational space ahead, as the military says. Fuck your girlfriend as much as you want. And my friend doesn’t mind either - she’s been watching the couple’s sex all this time and she’s already tired of when they’ll finally fuck her too.
Well, so...
I think it’s necessary talk to your wife or friend about this lady. And if the wife (or girlfriend) has nothing against it, then start courting this lady. You wrote something above about her husband. He is probably also present at these gatherings of yours. I think we also need to find out his reaction to your advances towards his wife. You can’t know exactly what’s in between. Maybe they have been practicing for a long time what I described above about going to the dacha with my wife and girlfriend. Maybe they really like all this and perhaps there won’t be any problems if everything is within the bounds of decency.
And in order to understand this, just gallantly look after this lady. Well, pull up a chair for her somewhere. Give her a light somewhere, bring her some water or put her a spoonful of salad at the table. Invite me to dance. Well, in general, take care of her somehow. Purely gallant. Warn her of any desires. This will immediately become noticeable to everyone. But your wife has been warned. And you watch your husband’s reaction. If he gets mad and is generally ready to beat you up, well, then apparently everything is very complicated. And you need to think carefully about whether it’s worth getting involved in this whole thing.
But if your advances do not cause aggression in your husband, then I think you need to do something more decisive.
Next...
We must remember that seducing a woman begins with touching. Start touching her in different places. Come up with reasons in advance. Invited to dance - You touch her on her body in different places. Everything is very innocent, but she feels your touch. And this is important. She should get used to you. Or rather, to your touch. Ideally, they should excite her, and then excite her. But that comes later. And first, at least for her, your touches should not be disgusting.
It happens that this or that man is unpleasant to this or that woman. And sometimes nothing can be done about it. Well, she just doesn’t like you and she doesn’t like you touching her. But if there is no rejection, but there is simply the fact of touching as the fact of someone else’s penetration into one’s own comfort zone. You penetrate it and cause some stress. But let’s say there is no rejection. And then she begins to get used to it and stop twitching every time.
Ideally, your touch should become pleasant to her and subsequently excite her, and ideally excite her.
And you need to come up with reasons for touching her. It is very innocent to say that you studied at a course in hand fortune telling and take her hand and hold it in your hand for a long time and say something and say something. But you won’t be able to screw up or make a joke, you’ll really have to learn what the lines are on your hand and what they mean and generally read something about the whole thing. Because we will have to come back to this more than once. Again, women are suspicious. She will probably tell you later - but you told me last time, I asked and said that there was something different on her hand. And you again take her hand and hold it in your hand for a long time and explain something to her for a long time, running your fingers over her hand. And it’s very possible that her panties are rapidly getting wet at this time.
Further, more...
On the next visit you can playfully take her hand and kiss her hand and say some kind of joke or something stupid and innocent.
You can seriously raise the topic that they say they found a good craftsman who makes cool insoles individually. And that they say your feet just rest with such insoles. And women are loaded with their feet. Well, there are small wreaths and all that. And then you can occupy her attention with this topic all evening. And of course, take her foot in your hands, hold it in your hands for a long time and explain what is there and how. And what is pressing where.
But first, of course, find such a master, order individual insoles from him for yourself personally, read all about it. Again, the thing itself is useful.
Well, I will remain silent if it turns out that you have completed massage courses and you even have a certificate of completion of these courses.
And that you can give an almost professional massage. And quite innocently, you can offer to come to you at a time convenient for her and when your wife is at home and give her a good massage. This is also a necessary and useful thing. And everyone should like it too.
The most important thing in all this is that your wife or girlfriend has a positive attitude towards all of this. And for this you should not do anything behind her back and share everything with her and not hide anything from her. And everything will happen by itself and you won’t even need to take any action. The fortress will simply come to you with the keys to its doors.
The main thing here is just not to rush and somehow move forward in your tactile movements.
That is, at some point you need to touch something erogenous. And wait for some kind of response.
Do you know what lordosis is? This is an arch of the back right after the waist and in front of the buttocks. This place is erogenous for women. With light force, you stroke the lordosis from top to bottom to the buttocks and see the response of her pelvis. In Russian this is called waving.
And if you saw this in response to your actions, then this is IT! This is the beginning of excitement. This means that your actions are pleasant and enjoyable to her. But not just the pleasure of scratching. No, this is already erotic pleasure. And she waves because she wants to enhance this pleasure.
You can also find a reason to touch her breasts. Moreover, pawing, kneading and otherwise doing all this fussily and hastily is not worth it. This should be practically voluntary on her part and completely legal. You can start the topic of saying that once on the beach at sea I saw a completely naked girl with a swimsuit painted on her. And she was so well drawn that no one paid attention to her or noticed that she was naked. And then say that you were interested in this and you came up and asked. And the girl said where they paint this on the beach. And you went and then spent the whole week learning to draw such swimsuits.
And say that you know how to draw such swimsuits. And first you can draw the top. Well, then if you like it, then the bottom. If you have drunk a certain amount of alcohol by this time, it is very possible that you will receive permission. And here you are again with a simple operation!!!
You have been drawing a swimsuit on her chest for a long time. From time to time you touch your breasts as if in the process of drawing. Well, there’s something to correct, or to tighten the skin a little. Or raise your chest to draw something underneath. And again, maybe right now there’s just a flood in her panties from all these manipulations of yours.
Well, it’s like icing on the cake when you obviously aren’t disgusted by her, but you need to somehow record the stages you’ve passed, you need to find a reason for her to touch your well-standing penis.
That is, you don’t need to get into her panties, you can ruin everything. And this may be perceived by her as a gross violation of her comfort zone.
But taking her hand and putting it in your pants is already a violation of your comfort zone and she doesn’t seem to have anything to swear at.
That is, you need to find a reason to be alone with her. You can go smoke on the balcony, you can dance in the room with the lights off, you can call her to the bathroom so she can help you wash off the stain on your shirt. And during this short solitude, tell her that you want to show her something. But so that she is not surprised.
Well, in general, you need to find some reason for her to touch your well-standing penis with her hand.
In principle, for an adult woman living a regular sex life it doesn’t have to be something terrible. Quite the contrary - it’s interesting to touch someone’s unknown penis. For example, men also enjoy touching someone’s unfamiliar pussy. Stroke her large lips, caress the clitoris, small lips, and the entrance to the vagina. Press your finger a little on the entrance to the vagina and feel the lubricant coming from there.
Well, in general, if you did everything correctly, then the lady should correctly perceive your request to touch and massage your penis a little. And then completely calmly return to the company. And this will already be some kind of watershed. Everything that happened before touching your penis and everything that happened after. But just make sure you don’t forget to tell your wife or girlfriend about all this later. This is important if you don’t want to ruin your relationship.
After this, you can carefully and unnoticed by others touch this lady by her nipples. Perhaps after some time she will also ask you to discreetly touch her pussy. For example, he will say look what you are doing to me - and put your hand in his panties. And there’s a flood!!!
Well, in general, if you are not too lazy to do all of the above, then go ahead. And there will be success. Necessarily will!
I think that she is worried about your attention to her. You write that she constantly sits next to you. I just think that by and large she doesn’t know what she wants. Therefore, I think it’s easier to figure out what she doesn’t want. She doesn’t want to stop attending these gatherings of yours. Otherwise, if she actively didn’t like them because of you, then she would stop everything.
Next.
I think she doesn’t want to take the initiative first because she hasn’t yet decided how to treat you and what to allow or not allow you. But I think that all this will not last long. She’ll just get tired of thinking about you and that’ll be the end of it. That is, she will treat you like furniture.
What should you do with all this...
I think you need to somehow get this situation off the ground. There are probably some moves on her part in your direction. And probably she is somehow worried about all this, and maybe even during your get-togethers next to you, she gets all wet THERE. And in general, perhaps this whole situation turns her on and excites her. It’s very possible.
But she probably doesn’t know what to do with all this.
Next...
If you have a wife or girlfriend, then you need to carefully find out from her how she will react to your courtship of this woman. I heard from people that often wives or girlfriends have a positive attitude towards the fact that a husband or boyfriend will fuck this or that girlfriend. The main thing is that it doesn’t happen behind your back and doesn’t happen secretly. And if it’s almost at her suggestion, and also almost before her eyes, then in principle there’s nothing wrong.
Well, for example, they invited a friend to their dacha. The bathhouse was flooded. All three of us went to take a steam bath. They steamed, drank, and the husband eagerly fucked his wife right in front of his friend. She put on a robe and said - I’ll go into the house, have a snack, maybe take a nap a little - something made me tired. Don’t waste your time here without me. Whatever you do, come and get some sleep, the big bed has enough room for everyone. And now the wife really leaves and the husband has operational space ahead, as the military says. Fuck your girlfriend as much as you want. And my friend doesn’t mind either - she’s been watching the couple’s sex all this time and she’s already tired of when they’ll finally fuck her too.
Well, so...
I think it’s necessary talk to your wife or friend about this lady. And if the wife (or girlfriend) has nothing against it, then start courting this lady. You wrote something above about her husband. He is probably also present at these gatherings of yours. I think we also need to find out his reaction to your advances towards his wife. You can’t know exactly what’s in between. Maybe they have been practicing for a long time what I described above about going to the dacha with my wife and girlfriend. Maybe they really like all this and perhaps there won’t be any problems if everything is within the bounds of decency.
And in order to understand this, just gallantly look after this lady. Well, pull up a chair for her somewhere. Give her a light somewhere, bring her some water or put her a spoonful of salad at the table. Invite me to dance. Well, in general, take care of her somehow. Purely gallant. Warn her of any desires. This will immediately become noticeable to everyone. But your wife has been warned. And you watch your husband’s reaction. If he gets mad and is generally ready to beat you up, well, then apparently everything is very complicated. And you need to think carefully about whether it’s worth getting involved in this whole thing.
But if your advances do not cause aggression in your husband, then I think you need to do something more decisive.
Next...
We must remember that seducing a woman begins with touching. Start touching her in different places. Come up with reasons in advance. Invited to dance - You touch her on her body in different places. Everything is very innocent, but she feels your touch. And this is important. She should get used to you. Or rather, to your touch. Ideally, they should excite her, and then excite her. But that comes later. And first, at least for her, your touches should not be disgusting.
It happens that this or that man is unpleasant to this or that woman. And sometimes nothing can be done about it. Well, she just doesn’t like you and she doesn’t like you touching her. But if there is no rejection, but there is simply the fact of touching as the fact of someone else’s penetration into one’s own comfort zone. You penetrate it and cause some stress. But let’s say there is no rejection. And then she begins to get used to it and stop twitching every time.
Ideally, your touch should become pleasant to her and subsequently excite her, and ideally excite her.
And you need to come up with reasons for touching her. It is very innocent to say that you studied at a course in hand fortune telling and take her hand and hold it in your hand for a long time and say something and say something. But you won’t be able to screw up or make a joke, you’ll really have to learn what the lines are on your hand and what they mean and generally read something about the whole thing. Because we will have to come back to this more than once. Again, women are suspicious. She will probably tell you later - but you told me last time, I asked and said that there was something different on her hand. And you again take her hand and hold it in your hand for a long time and explain something to her for a long time, running your fingers over her hand. And it’s very possible that her panties are rapidly getting wet at this time.
Further, more...
On the next visit you can playfully take her hand and kiss her hand and say some kind of joke or something stupid and innocent.
You can seriously raise the topic that they say they found a good craftsman who makes cool insoles individually. And that they say your feet just rest with such insoles. And women are loaded with their feet. Well, there are small wreaths and all that. And then you can occupy her attention with this topic all evening. And of course, take her foot in your hands, hold it in your hands for a long time and explain what is there and how. And what is pressing where.
But first, of course, find such a master, order individual insoles from him for yourself personally, read all about it. Again, the thing itself is useful.

Well, I will remain silent if it turns out that you have completed massage courses and you even have a certificate of completion of these courses.
And that you can give an almost professional massage. And quite innocently, you can offer to come to you at a time convenient for her and when your wife is at home and give her a good massage. This is also a necessary and useful thing. And everyone should like it too.
The most important thing in all this is that your wife or girlfriend has a positive attitude towards all of this. And for this you should not do anything behind her back and share everything with her and not hide anything from her. And everything will happen by itself and you won’t even need to take any action. The fortress will simply come to you with the keys to its doors.
The main thing here is just not to rush and somehow move forward in your tactile movements.
That is, at some point you need to touch something erogenous. And wait for some kind of response.
Do you know what lordosis is? This is an arch of the back right after the waist and in front of the buttocks. This place is erogenous for women. With light force, you stroke the lordosis from top to bottom to the buttocks and see the response of her pelvis. In Russian this is called waving.

And if you saw this in response to your actions, then this is IT! This is the beginning of excitement. This means that your actions are pleasant and enjoyable to her. But not just the pleasure of scratching. No, this is already erotic pleasure. And she waves because she wants to enhance this pleasure.
You can also find a reason to touch her breasts. Moreover, pawing, kneading and otherwise doing all this fussily and hastily is not worth it. This should be practically voluntary on her part and completely legal. You can start the topic of saying that once on the beach at sea I saw a completely naked girl with a swimsuit painted on her. And she was so well drawn that no one paid attention to her or noticed that she was naked. And then say that you were interested in this and you came up and asked. And the girl said where they paint this on the beach. And you went and then spent the whole week learning to draw such swimsuits.
And say that you know how to draw such swimsuits. And first you can draw the top. Well, then if you like it, then the bottom. If you have drunk a certain amount of alcohol by this time, it is very possible that you will receive permission. And here you are again with a simple operation!!!
You have been drawing a swimsuit on her chest for a long time. From time to time you touch your breasts as if in the process of drawing. Well, there’s something to correct, or to tighten the skin a little. Or raise your chest to draw something underneath. And again, maybe right now there’s just a flood in her panties from all these manipulations of yours.
Well, it’s like icing on the cake when you obviously aren’t disgusted by her, but you need to somehow record the stages you’ve passed, you need to find a reason for her to touch your well-standing penis.
That is, you don’t need to get into her panties, you can ruin everything. And this may be perceived by her as a gross violation of her comfort zone.
But taking her hand and putting it in your pants is already a violation of your comfort zone and she doesn’t seem to have anything to swear at.
That is, you need to find a reason to be alone with her. You can go smoke on the balcony, you can dance in the room with the lights off, you can call her to the bathroom so she can help you wash off the stain on your shirt. And during this short solitude, tell her that you want to show her something. But so that she is not surprised.
Well, in general, you need to find some reason for her to touch your well-standing penis with her hand.
In principle, for an adult woman living a regular sex life it doesn’t have to be something terrible. Quite the contrary - it’s interesting to touch someone’s unknown penis. For example, men also enjoy touching someone’s unfamiliar pussy. Stroke her large lips, caress the clitoris, small lips, and the entrance to the vagina. Press your finger a little on the entrance to the vagina and feel the lubricant coming from there.
Well, in general, if you did everything correctly, then the lady should correctly perceive your request to touch and massage your penis a little. And then completely calmly return to the company. And this will already be some kind of watershed. Everything that happened before touching your penis and everything that happened after. But just make sure you don’t forget to tell your wife or girlfriend about all this later. This is important if you don’t want to ruin your relationship.
After this, you can carefully and unnoticed by others touch this lady by her nipples. Perhaps after some time she will also ask you to discreetly touch her pussy. For example, he will say look what you are doing to me - and put your hand in his panties. And there’s a flood!!!
Well, in general, if you are not too lazy to do all of the above, then go ahead. And there will be success. Necessarily will!

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Re: I want my wife’s friend
I myself lust after my godfather’s wife, although she is 13 years older than me, she is very pretty, even as a teenager she became for me the ideal of female beauty, a couple of times I touched her butt, but strangely enough the reaction was as if nothing happened, I don’t know if it’s worth moving on, or she just doesn’t want to quarrel.
It’s rightly noted that the chances are 0.0.
I myself lust after my godfather’s wife, although she is 13 years older than me, she is very pretty, even as a teenager she became for me the ideal of female beauty, a couple of times I touched her butt, but strangely enough the reaction was as if nothing happened, I don’t know if it’s worth moving on, or she just doesn’t want to quarrel.
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Re: I want my wife’s friend
I also want my wife’s friend. Before the wedding, the three of us were drinking and dancing, they all undressed completely, I hugged their asses, touched them and rubbed my dick against their lower belly while dancing. It was as if the three of us were dancing in an embrace. A friend suggested a threesome, but mine refused. Since then, my friend and I have shown interest in each other. There was nothing serious. Slaps on the bottom, hugged her, swam naked in front of her)). Under the table he pressed his foot against her leg, she didn’t clean it up, he touched her leg in a friendly way. During the dance he kissed my neck. There were responses from her too, but more restrained. When saying goodbye, they began to touch each other not with their cheeks, but with their lips... She supports this. But, on New Year’s Eve, when I was alone, I tried to kiss her properly on the hickey... it didn’t work, either she didn’t understand my intentions, or I tried somehow incomprehensibly, or maybe they drank a little))). In general, I have now given up on these attempts... in general, let it be as it will
I advise you to show your intentions a little more clearly... you will feel whether the answer will be in your direction. And then you will understand where to move
I advise you to show your intentions a little more clearly... you will feel whether the answer will be in your direction. And then you will understand where to move
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Re: I want my wife’s friend
The problem is that my wife definitely won’t approve, so I would like no one except my friend and I to know . But how can I understand her reaction if it’s impossible to meet in private without arousing suspicion? More precisely, it is possible, but I need confidence that she is not breathing evenly towards me either. Otherwise, he will share it with his wife (if I ask openly) Or he also wants to, but he himself is afraid. It would be cool if she also somehow hinted at me about her feelings. Or, having caught one, she would have sent me. Because my desires regarding her are quite clear to her.Natural Selection: ↑12 Feb 2023, 23:49 I think that she is worried about your attention to her. You write that she constantly sits next to you.
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Re: I want my wife’s friend
So ask yourself a question - why does this lady appear regularly in your house?
The answer is because she is a friend of your family .
Question - is she your friend?
The answer is no.
So she is your wife’s friend.
Here is the answer to all your questions. Next...
Question - Do you and some friend of yours admit that you can share some intimate things (and not necessarily sexual) that happen with your wife?
I think so, yes, you admit it, provided that she He definitely won’t know about this.
Here is your answer.
They may have discussed this topic about you with your wife. And perhaps we agreed on something.
About what?
Well, it’s hard to imagine.
Personally, I’m generally familiar with this situation when there is a family friend who is breathing unevenly in relation to her husband. Well, she just likes him. And the wife behaves as if she were above the fray. That is, threesome under certain conditions and in certain moods may be acceptable for her. It is also possible for the three of us to go to the sea and all this time sleep and live together in a room, perhaps she would also like it.
Well, then the options. I fully admit that in such a situation, the wife can, no matter how at home in the kitchen, tell her husband - listen, Tanka called me here. She and her husband are divorced right now. He wants to fuck like a cat. Tomorrow is Saturday. If only you had gone to see her early in the morning, you would have made her happy. But just to be at home by the evening!

Well, in general, all of the above is acceptable.
Question - why?
The answer is yes, because no one fucks anyone and everything is fair.
Everything is the same, but exactly the opposite can happen in relation to the husband. He can also allow sex with a family friend in the person of his friend. But just without giving a fuck and so that everything is fair and so that she knows about everything.
And then it ceases to be treason. These are just some nuances that make life more interesting.
Question - does a potential medium-nonstatic wife want to be thoroughly fucked with well-standing, not the smallest dicks, by two guys who are pleasant to her?
The answer is definitely yes!
Hence the numerous cases of sex on the train of random passengers or sex at sea or on business trips.
Question - why don’t wives talk about these desires to their husbands?
Answer - they are not confident in their husbands. They are not sure that he won’t be fucked up with his jealousy, they are not sure that he will then start getting a divorce. Well, in general, I think wives simply don’t trust their husbands in this matter.
That’s why they prefer to find some kind of outlet in secret from their husbands. Because if they were sure, they wouldn’t have encrypted it. Because it’s simpler this way.
The question is why is this all happening? Why do most wives and husbands not allow legal sex with friends and family members?
The answer - I think it depends on how the relationship of a particular couple developed at the beginning of their acquaintance and initially after they got married.
That is, if you analyze the situation, it’s just that at the beginning of their acquaintance a couple was selected in which both allowed threesome sex. And for whom this was not an accident due to drunkenness. And it’s quite a conscious choice.
That is, the guy or girl may have even met during group sex. But then this did not become an obstacle to further relationships. And that maybe they both liked each other. And perhaps they continued to practice threesome sex. It is also possible that they already have a more liberal attitude towards friendship between families in which joint sex is allowed.
Honestly, I generally consider such families to be simply happy in terms of sex. In general, it should be very cool when a woman essentially has two husbands, and a man has two wives. We are, of course, not talking about a shared refrigerator or a shared budget. But here is leisure, some kind of joint recreation. And all this is additionally spiced up with sex with someone else. Well, of course, it’s clear that there are everyday life. And that these are not marital duties. And that it will still not be possible to meet in this format very often. But this opportunity in itself is very pleasant, whether for a husband or a wife. If, of course, we discard hypocrisy and hypocrisy and do not lie to each other.
Returning to our sheep, I can still advise you to try to somehow resolve this issue with your wife. It’s all about her. And she is a brake on everything you want. And what does this lady possibly want?
But it’s hard to say what’s in your wife’s head about all this. Anything can happen.
But you can do something completely unpredictable for her - go and tell her everything. That’s all you wrote here and tell it all. And maybe she won’t be surprised. And perhaps this lady has already told her all this in the same detail. And it is possible that your wife is aware and is simply waiting for what you will do in this situation. And maybe she’s even interested. And perhaps she will then even draw some conclusions about you.
Well, in general, I would advise you to tell her everything. Or give up the idea of fucking this woman altogether. Because if you allow sex on the side from your wife, then fucking a family friend is not the best solution. It’s better to have someone at work then. But at work, some of your ill-wishers can call your wife and anonymously tell everything. Therefore, you need to go somewhere on the side.
And definitely don’t fuck her friends’ wives or the wives of families with whom you are friends behind the back. Because all this will become known anyway and it will be a problem for you.
I admit that you can fuck someone’s wife at the dacha but in a certain general relaxed atmosphere. When everyone is drunk, when you don’t know exactly where and with whom your wife is right now. When everyone is drunk at the table naked after the bath. Well, yes, it seems like there is a general collective agreement that here and now everyone can do anything. And no one will complain to each other. And no one knows what will happen tomorrow. Yes, and he doesn’t want to know.
But I think it’s simply madness to fuck someone from your inner circle without some kind of preliminary agreement.
I always say in such cases that we ourselves always know all the answers to our questions. We just don’t know how to ask ourselves these questions and answer them honestly to ourselves. Some attentive person questions you and then gives you a solution. And it is probably correct with a very high probability.Yuri Yuryevich: ↑13 Feb 2023, 01:55 The problem is that my wife definitely won’t approve, so I would like no one to know except my friend and me. But how can I understand her reaction if it’s impossible to meet in private without arousing suspicion? More precisely, it is possible, but I need confidence that she is not breathing evenly towards me either. Otherwise, he will share it with his wife (if I ask openly) Or he wants it too, but is afraid. It would be cool if she also somehow hinted at me about her feelings. Or, having caught one, she would have sent me. Because my desires regarding her are quite clear to her.
So ask yourself a question - why does this lady appear regularly in your house?
The answer is because she is a friend of your family .
Question - is she your friend?
The answer is no.
So she is your wife’s friend.
Here is the answer to all your questions. Next...
Question - Do you and some friend of yours admit that you can share some intimate things (and not necessarily sexual) that happen with your wife?
I think so, yes, you admit it, provided that she He definitely won’t know about this.
Here is your answer.
They may have discussed this topic about you with your wife. And perhaps we agreed on something.
About what?
Well, it’s hard to imagine.
Personally, I’m generally familiar with this situation when there is a family friend who is breathing unevenly in relation to her husband. Well, she just likes him. And the wife behaves as if she were above the fray. That is, threesome under certain conditions and in certain moods may be acceptable for her. It is also possible for the three of us to go to the sea and all this time sleep and live together in a room, perhaps she would also like it.
Well, then the options. I fully admit that in such a situation, the wife can, no matter how at home in the kitchen, tell her husband - listen, Tanka called me here. She and her husband are divorced right now. He wants to fuck like a cat. Tomorrow is Saturday. If only you had gone to see her early in the morning, you would have made her happy. But just to be at home by the evening!

Well, in general, all of the above is acceptable.
Question - why?
The answer is yes, because no one fucks anyone and everything is fair.
Everything is the same, but exactly the opposite can happen in relation to the husband. He can also allow sex with a family friend in the person of his friend. But just without giving a fuck and so that everything is fair and so that she knows about everything.
And then it ceases to be treason. These are just some nuances that make life more interesting.
Question - does a potential medium-nonstatic wife want to be thoroughly fucked with well-standing, not the smallest dicks, by two guys who are pleasant to her?
The answer is definitely yes!
Hence the numerous cases of sex on the train of random passengers or sex at sea or on business trips.
Question - why don’t wives talk about these desires to their husbands?
Answer - they are not confident in their husbands. They are not sure that he won’t be fucked up with his jealousy, they are not sure that he will then start getting a divorce. Well, in general, I think wives simply don’t trust their husbands in this matter.
That’s why they prefer to find some kind of outlet in secret from their husbands. Because if they were sure, they wouldn’t have encrypted it. Because it’s simpler this way.
The question is why is this all happening? Why do most wives and husbands not allow legal sex with friends and family members?
The answer - I think it depends on how the relationship of a particular couple developed at the beginning of their acquaintance and initially after they got married.
That is, if you analyze the situation, it’s just that at the beginning of their acquaintance a couple was selected in which both allowed threesome sex. And for whom this was not an accident due to drunkenness. And it’s quite a conscious choice.
That is, the guy or girl may have even met during group sex. But then this did not become an obstacle to further relationships. And that maybe they both liked each other. And perhaps they continued to practice threesome sex. It is also possible that they already have a more liberal attitude towards friendship between families in which joint sex is allowed.
Honestly, I generally consider such families to be simply happy in terms of sex. In general, it should be very cool when a woman essentially has two husbands, and a man has two wives. We are, of course, not talking about a shared refrigerator or a shared budget. But here is leisure, some kind of joint recreation. And all this is additionally spiced up with sex with someone else. Well, of course, it’s clear that there are everyday life. And that these are not marital duties. And that it will still not be possible to meet in this format very often. But this opportunity in itself is very pleasant, whether for a husband or a wife. If, of course, we discard hypocrisy and hypocrisy and do not lie to each other.
Returning to our sheep, I can still advise you to try to somehow resolve this issue with your wife. It’s all about her. And she is a brake on everything you want. And what does this lady possibly want?
But it’s hard to say what’s in your wife’s head about all this. Anything can happen.
But you can do something completely unpredictable for her - go and tell her everything. That’s all you wrote here and tell it all. And maybe she won’t be surprised. And perhaps this lady has already told her all this in the same detail. And it is possible that your wife is aware and is simply waiting for what you will do in this situation. And maybe she’s even interested. And perhaps she will then even draw some conclusions about you.
Well, in general, I would advise you to tell her everything. Or give up the idea of fucking this woman altogether. Because if you allow sex on the side from your wife, then fucking a family friend is not the best solution. It’s better to have someone at work then. But at work, some of your ill-wishers can call your wife and anonymously tell everything. Therefore, you need to go somewhere on the side.
And definitely don’t fuck her friends’ wives or the wives of families with whom you are friends behind the back. Because all this will become known anyway and it will be a problem for you.
I admit that you can fuck someone’s wife at the dacha but in a certain general relaxed atmosphere. When everyone is drunk, when you don’t know exactly where and with whom your wife is right now. When everyone is drunk at the table naked after the bath. Well, yes, it seems like there is a general collective agreement that here and now everyone can do anything. And no one will complain to each other. And no one knows what will happen tomorrow. Yes, and he doesn’t want to know.
But I think it’s simply madness to fuck someone from your inner circle without some kind of preliminary agreement.
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Re: I want my wife’s friend
Perhaps the wife forbade this your girlfriend to have sex with you. Like, just try it!
That is, you were banned!
If someone banned you somewhere, what should you do in this situation?
That’s right - you need to contact the person who banned you to have the ban lifted.
So contact us!
Frankly formulate the problem to your wife. Like, I really want to fuck this friend of yours. Say that there is nothing wrong with this desire of yours. That this is a normal desire. And that you really think so. And what if she (your wife) turned to you with a similar request, then you would also meet her halfway.
By the way, would you go?
If your wife made a request to you saying that I like your friend who sometimes visits us. And that he somehow touched her in different places the last couple of times. And that this excited her greatly and that all her panties were wet. And that she wouldn’t mind if he fucked her. But it shouldn’t be somewhere on the side. And that she generally wants you to fuck her at your home with this friend.
Well, how do you like this situation? Will you give your wife permission to do this?
If you give it, then feel free to go and tell her all this. And that you want to fuck your friend, and that this is normal. And that if she (the wife) asked for something similar, then you, of course, would also meet her halfway.
But in general, if everything works out for you and you agree on this with your wife, then you will have a very interesting life. In the sense that some things will appear in your life that were previously a big big ban.
More guests will automatically appear in your house. And these won’t necessarily be friends or family members. In general, there will be more friends in the form of some kind of families. And all because on your part there will be more interest in this or that family. Because you liked someone’s wife. And your wife liked someone’s husband. And everyone is worried about the future prospects.
Because it’s difficult to be friends with families just like that. Then these two families must be either relatives or very very very close in spirit. Which is extremely rare. Again, one should not discount it when in a particular family that came to visit someone the husband or wife did not like. This is essentially a ban on further relationships.
If the prospect of sex between a husband or wife with this or that couple who came to visit is allowed, then everything is completely different.
nIn general, if you carefully read our pre-revolutionary classics in prose, you will notice subtle references specifically to this area. The nobles of the 18th and 19th centuries had a fairly liberal attitude towards the hobbies of a husband or wife. The wife could easily host some outside men in her house. It’s a long time to be alone with them in the house. Some families could come to the province and live in a manor house, occupying an outbuilding. Both husbands and wives were attracted to the husbands and wives of these guests. And people almost legally went to each other’s bedrooms in a shirt and with a candle. First there, and then back.
Well, as for the peasants, there’s no place to take samples at all. Starting from the fact that there was an institution of godmothers and fathers. Somewhere this was called nepotism. That is, it was assumed that if something happened to the parents, the godfather or mother would take the godchildren. Which happened extremely rarely.
But in fact it served as a justification for the almost legal sex of two families. Because as a rule, the godmother (godmother) was regularly fucked by her husband. And we must not forget that she was someone’s wife. And her husband, of course, fucked the wife of the one who fucked the godmother.
And everyone knew it all and did not hide it and there was no jealousy. Again, there was an institution of what is now called a shift. Men have nothing to do in the village in winter - it’s winter. And they took a horse and sleigh and drove in the city. Either they carried cargo or became those same cab drivers. In our opinion, taxi drivers. Everything is just like now.
And at home my wife was fucked by her godfather, who for some reason did not go to the city to do the driving. And the one who went to work knew that his wife was being fucked by his godfather and treated it normally because it was the norm. And it was not considered treason.
I will say more - very often the children in the family were like godfathers and mothers. And this brought the families even closer together - like - your Petka is just like me.
I think the only way until this friend gets married or goes somewhere is to negotiate with his wife.Danafil: ↑13 Feb 2023, 01:06 I also want my wife’s friend. Before the wedding, the three of us were drinking and dancing, they all undressed completely, I hugged their asses, touched them and rubbed my dick against their lower belly while dancing. It was as if the three of us were dancing in an embrace. A friend suggested a threesome, but mine refused. Since then, my friend and I have shown interest in each other. There was nothing serious. Slaps on the bottom, hugged her, swam naked in front of her)). Under the table he pressed his foot against her leg, she didn’t clean it up, he touched her leg in a friendly way. During the dance he kissed my neck. There were responses from her too, but more restrained. When saying goodbye, they began to touch each other not with their cheeks, but with their lips... She supports this. But, on New Year’s Eve, when I was alone, I tried to kiss her properly on the hickey... it didn’t work, either she didn’t understand my intentions, or I tried somehow incomprehensibly, or maybe they drank a little))). In general, I have now given up on these attempts... in general, let it be as it is
I advise you to show your intentions a little more clearly... you will feel whether the answer will be in your direction. And then you will understand where to move
Perhaps the wife forbade this your girlfriend to have sex with you. Like, just try it!
That is, you were banned!

If someone banned you somewhere, what should you do in this situation?
That’s right - you need to contact the person who banned you to have the ban lifted.
So contact us!

Frankly formulate the problem to your wife. Like, I really want to fuck this friend of yours. Say that there is nothing wrong with this desire of yours. That this is a normal desire. And that you really think so. And what if she (your wife) turned to you with a similar request, then you would also meet her halfway.
By the way, would you go?

If your wife made a request to you saying that I like your friend who sometimes visits us. And that he somehow touched her in different places the last couple of times. And that this excited her greatly and that all her panties were wet. And that she wouldn’t mind if he fucked her. But it shouldn’t be somewhere on the side. And that she generally wants you to fuck her at your home with this friend.
Well, how do you like this situation? Will you give your wife permission to do this?

If you give it, then feel free to go and tell her all this. And that you want to fuck your friend, and that this is normal. And that if she (the wife) asked for something similar, then you, of course, would also meet her halfway.
But in general, if everything works out for you and you agree on this with your wife, then you will have a very interesting life. In the sense that some things will appear in your life that were previously a big big ban.
More guests will automatically appear in your house. And these won’t necessarily be friends or family members. In general, there will be more friends in the form of some kind of families. And all because on your part there will be more interest in this or that family. Because you liked someone’s wife. And your wife liked someone’s husband. And everyone is worried about the future prospects.
Because it’s difficult to be friends with families just like that. Then these two families must be either relatives or very very very close in spirit. Which is extremely rare. Again, one should not discount it when in a particular family that came to visit someone the husband or wife did not like. This is essentially a ban on further relationships.
If the prospect of sex between a husband or wife with this or that couple who came to visit is allowed, then everything is completely different.
nIn general, if you carefully read our pre-revolutionary classics in prose, you will notice subtle references specifically to this area. The nobles of the 18th and 19th centuries had a fairly liberal attitude towards the hobbies of a husband or wife. The wife could easily host some outside men in her house. It’s a long time to be alone with them in the house. Some families could come to the province and live in a manor house, occupying an outbuilding. Both husbands and wives were attracted to the husbands and wives of these guests. And people almost legally went to each other’s bedrooms in a shirt and with a candle. First there, and then back.

Well, as for the peasants, there’s no place to take samples at all. Starting from the fact that there was an institution of godmothers and fathers. Somewhere this was called nepotism. That is, it was assumed that if something happened to the parents, the godfather or mother would take the godchildren. Which happened extremely rarely.
But in fact it served as a justification for the almost legal sex of two families. Because as a rule, the godmother (godmother) was regularly fucked by her husband. And we must not forget that she was someone’s wife. And her husband, of course, fucked the wife of the one who fucked the godmother.
And everyone knew it all and did not hide it and there was no jealousy. Again, there was an institution of what is now called a shift. Men have nothing to do in the village in winter - it’s winter. And they took a horse and sleigh and drove in the city. Either they carried cargo or became those same cab drivers. In our opinion, taxi drivers. Everything is just like now.
And at home my wife was fucked by her godfather, who for some reason did not go to the city to do the driving. And the one who went to work knew that his wife was being fucked by his godfather and treated it normally because it was the norm. And it was not considered treason.
I will say more - very often the children in the family were like godfathers and mothers. And this brought the families even closer together - like - your Petka is just like me.

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Re: I want my wife’s friend
Yes, I would go to the meeting wife and would allow her to fuck). There was a time when my wife and I went to the left and allowed each other to take a walk)). But with her friend it’s different! This is a friend. My wife already knows that I want to fuck my friend. Several times she presented this to me with displeasure... “you clearly want to fuck her.” So how can I talk to her about this again?
By the way, my friend is married, and doesn’t seem to be planning to move yet)Vasyanitsa: ↑14 Feb 2023, 04:24I think the only way until this friend gets married or goes somewhere is to negotiate with his wife.Danafil: ↑13 Feb 2023, 01:06 I also want my wife’s friend. Before the wedding, the three of us were drinking and dancing, they all undressed completely, I hugged their asses, touched them and rubbed my dick against their lower belly while dancing. It was as if the three of us were dancing in an embrace. A friend suggested a threesome, but mine refused. Since then, my friend and I have shown interest in each other. There was nothing serious. Slaps on the bottom, hugged her, swam naked in front of her)). Under the table he pressed his foot against her leg, she didn’t clean it up, he touched her leg in a friendly way. During the dance he kissed my neck. There were responses from her too, but more restrained. When saying goodbye, they began to touch each other not with their cheeks, but with their lips... She supports this. But, on New Year’s Eve, when I was alone, I tried to kiss her properly on the hickey... it didn’t work, either she didn’t understand my intentions, or I tried somehow incomprehensibly, or maybe they drank a little))). In general, I have now given up on these attempts... in general, let it be as it is
I advise you to show your intentions a little more clearly... you will feel whether the answer will be in your direction. And then you will understand where to move
Perhaps the wife forbade this your girlfriend to have sex with you. Like, just try it!
That is, you were banned!
If someone banned you somewhere, what should you do in this situation?
That’s right - you need to contact the person who banned you to have the ban lifted.
So contact us!
Frankly formulate the problem to your wife. Like, I really want to fuck this friend of yours. Say that there is nothing wrong with this desire of yours. That this is a normal desire. And that you really think so. And what if she (your wife) turned to you with a similar request, then you would also meet her halfway.
By the way, would you go?
If your wife made a request to you saying that I like your friend who sometimes visits us. And that he somehow touched her in different places the last couple of times. And that this excited her greatly and that all her panties were wet. And that she wouldn’t mind if he fucked her. But it shouldn’t be somewhere on the side. And that she generally wants you to fuck her at your home with this friend.
Well, how do you like this situation? Will you give your wife permission to do this?
If you give it, then feel free to go and tell her all this. And that you want to fuck your friend, and that this is normal. And that if she (the wife) asked for something similar, then you, of course, would also meet her halfway.
But in general, if everything works out for you and you agree on this with your wife, then you will have a very interesting life. In the sense that some things will appear in your life that were previously a big big ban.
More guests will automatically appear in your house. And these won’t necessarily be friends or family members. In general, there will be more friends in the form of some kind of families. And all because on your part there will be more interest in this or that family. Because you liked someone’s wife. And your wife liked someone’s husband. And everyone is worried about the future prospects.
Because it’s difficult to be friends with families just like that. Then these two families must be either relatives or very very very close in spirit. Which is extremely rare. Again, one should not discount it when in a particular family that came to visit someone the husband or wife did not like. This is essentially a ban on further relationships.
If the prospect of sex between a husband or wife with this or that couple who came to visit is allowed, then everything is completely different.
nIn general, if you carefully read our pre-revolutionary classics in prose, you will notice subtle references specifically to this area. The nobles of the 18th and 19th centuries had a fairly liberal attitude towards the hobbies of a husband or wife. The wife could easily host some outside men in her house. It’s a long time to be alone with them in the house. Some families could come to the province and live in a manor house, occupying an outbuilding. Both husbands and wives were attracted to the husbands and wives of these guests. And people almost legally went to each other’s bedrooms in a shirt and with a candle. First there, and then back.
Well, as for the peasants, there’s no place to take samples at all. Starting from the fact that there was an institution of godmothers and fathers. Somewhere this was called nepotism. That is, it was assumed that if something happened to the parents, the godfather or mother would take the godchildren. Which happened extremely rarely.
But in fact it served as a justification for the almost legal sex of two families. Because as a rule, the godmother (godmother) was regularly fucked by her husband. And we must not forget that she was someone’s wife. And her husband, of course, fucked the wife of the one who fucked the godmother.
And everyone knew it all and did not hide it and there was no jealousy. Again, there was an institution of what is now called a shift. Men have nothing to do in the village in winter - it’s winter. And they took a horse and sleigh and drove in the city. Either they carried cargo or became those same cab drivers. In our opinion, taxi drivers. Everything is just like now.
And at home my wife was fucked by her godfather, who for some reason did not go to the city to do the driving. And the one who went to work knew that his wife was being fucked by his godfather and treated it normally because it was the norm. And it was not considered treason.
I will say more - very often the children in the family were like godfathers and mothers. And this brought the families even closer together - like - your Petka is just like me.![]()
Yes, I would go to the meeting wife and would allow her to fuck). There was a time when my wife and I went to the left and allowed each other to take a walk)). But with her friend it’s different! This is a friend. My wife already knows that I want to fuck my friend. Several times she presented this to me with displeasure... “you clearly want to fuck her.” So how can I talk to her about this again?
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Re: I want my wife’s friend
Moreover, as you say, you previously had experience of some kind of relationship on the side.
And now just offer her a different format. That they say it’s not like going left behind each other’s backs, but it’s just that it’s completely legal.
Well, as if we were to tell the three of you to go to the seaside for two weeks. And in such a format that all three know in advance that there will be sex.
There is another way to settle all this. This is to agree with a friend that she will simply persuade your wife. They say she stopped getting orgasms from her husband. This causes pain in the lower abdomen. Well, it’s like with men when their balls hurt because they really wanted to but never had sex.
Well, this friend is asking your wife to take advantage of her husband. Like - help, help.
I was once almost present in such a situation that one guy came from the army. He wants to fuck like a gun. And the guy has a brother. And he’s married. Well, this guy asked his brother about sex with his wife. The brother thought and thought and decided - why not!?
And the brother’s wife knew her husband well. That is, they knew each other. Well, this husband asked his wife to fuck her brother. We need to help the guy - he really wants to fuck.
And they settled this matter. The three of us sat in the kitchen and drank. The husband went with his wife to the bedroom and began to fuck his wife, first in the messianic position. Then he put it in doggy style and called his brother. Well, my brother completely merged with her.
Then all three of us went to the kitchen. We sat, drank, ate and continued again. But with a lot of fire and without embarrassment.
However, all three liked how this guy later told me that he came from the army.
I think that we just need to transfer all this to another plane - like yes, I want to fuck her. But what’s wrong with that!?
Moreover, as you say, you previously had experience of some kind of relationship on the side.
And now just offer her a different format. That they say it’s not like going left behind each other’s backs, but it’s just that it’s completely legal.
Well, as if we were to tell the three of you to go to the seaside for two weeks. And in such a format that all three know in advance that there will be sex.
There is another way to settle all this. This is to agree with a friend that she will simply persuade your wife. They say she stopped getting orgasms from her husband. This causes pain in the lower abdomen. Well, it’s like with men when their balls hurt because they really wanted to but never had sex.
Well, this friend is asking your wife to take advantage of her husband. Like - help, help.
I was once almost present in such a situation that one guy came from the army. He wants to fuck like a gun. And the guy has a brother. And he’s married. Well, this guy asked his brother about sex with his wife. The brother thought and thought and decided - why not!?
And the brother’s wife knew her husband well. That is, they knew each other. Well, this husband asked his wife to fuck her brother. We need to help the guy - he really wants to fuck.
And they settled this matter. The three of us sat in the kitchen and drank. The husband went with his wife to the bedroom and began to fuck his wife, first in the messianic position. Then he put it in doggy style and called his brother. Well, my brother completely merged with her.
Then all three of us went to the kitchen. We sat, drank, ate and continued again. But with a lot of fire and without embarrassment.
However, all three liked how this guy later told me that he came from the army.
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Re: I want my wife’s friend
I joked about sex with my friend, my wife got annoyed.
And my friend really doesn’t have sex, or almost no sex.
Not a bad idea! But for my friend to persuade my wife... first I need to persuade my friend)). And both of them are too “decent” for such conversations.Vasyanitsa: ↑14 Feb 2023, 07:59 There is another way to settle all this. This is to agree with a friend that she will simply persuade your wife. They say she stopped getting orgasms from her husband. This causes pain in the lower abdomen. Well, it’s like with men when their balls hurt because they really wanted to but never had sex.
Well, this friend is asking your wife to take advantage of her husband. Like - help, help.
I joked about sex with my friend, my wife got annoyed.
And my friend really doesn’t have sex, or almost no sex.
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Re: I want my wife’s friend
Everyone has their own cockroaches in their heads. And you can’t prove anything to them...
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Re: I want my wife’s friend
Well, it’s as if you and your wife and someone else were in a sauna and a completely naked woman was sitting opposite you. And you would shine with your tits and pussies.
So you, too, in your case, are shining your bulges in your pants to a sex-hungry woman. Well, she may be reacting to you.
About "both of them are too "decent" for such conversations". This is actually the most common mistake, first by guys and then by men. Like, how is it possiblessss...
An anecdote on this topic...
Lieutenant Rzhevsky is asked - how do you manage to achieve intimacy with women so effectively?
He answers - gentlemen, everything is very simple ! You approach the lady and tell her - would you deign to have sex with me in your bedroom tomorrow afternoon?
They answer him - how is it possiblessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss! You can ssssssssssssssssssssssssss up the face up!
And he answers - half an hour! But more often it worked!

Well, in general, don’t be afraid to get hit in the face! Perhaps this is exactly what is expected of you. If everyone were like you say, “decent for such conversations,” then the human race would have degenerated a long time ago. At least those who are "decent" would degenerate first.
But no, everything is fine with them among the "decent" ones. And they fuck, and they go around and take part in threesomes. And where does everything come from!
I think another husband like you would be very surprised if he saw his wife somewhere on a business trip in a relaxed state.
I think it’s just all about you personally. It’s just that you, either with your wife or with your friend, have raised the bar of relationships too high. Let me give you an example.
Well, for example, relationships with growing school-age children. This is how this or that mother behaves with them? After all, in any case, it’s not the same as with her lover if she has one. And the same school-age children, I think, would be shocked to see how their mother can tumble in bed with two or even three men.
Now answer yourself - why is this happening?
As Ippolit said in Irony of Fate - "We stopped climbing into the windows of our loved ones! We stopped doing obvious stupid things." Maybe you are just too serious for your women? What for a wife and what for a friend. Maybe it should be a little simpler?
This fact may change the whole thing. If she really has almost no sex with her husband, then on the one hand she can share this with your wife. On the other hand, don’t tell your wife anything about you. And reacting to you is purely reflexive. Simply put, she gets “up” with you and she can’t do anything about it. Well, "gets up" and that’s it! Against her will.
Well, it’s as if you and your wife and someone else were in a sauna and a completely naked woman was sitting opposite you. And you would shine with your tits and pussies.
So you, too, in your case, are shining your bulges in your pants to a sex-hungry woman. Well, she may be reacting to you.
About "both of them are too "decent" for such conversations". This is actually the most common mistake, first by guys and then by men. Like, how is it possiblessss...
An anecdote on this topic...
Lieutenant Rzhevsky is asked - how do you manage to achieve intimacy with women so effectively?
He answers - gentlemen, everything is very simple ! You approach the lady and tell her - would you deign to have sex with me in your bedroom tomorrow afternoon?
They answer him - how is it possiblessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss! You can ssssssssssssssssssssssssss up the face up!
And he answers - half an hour! But more often it worked!

Well, in general, don’t be afraid to get hit in the face! Perhaps this is exactly what is expected of you. If everyone were like you say, “decent for such conversations,” then the human race would have degenerated a long time ago. At least those who are "decent" would degenerate first.
But no, everything is fine with them among the "decent" ones. And they fuck, and they go around and take part in threesomes. And where does everything come from!

I think another husband like you would be very surprised if he saw his wife somewhere on a business trip in a relaxed state.

I think it’s just all about you personally. It’s just that you, either with your wife or with your friend, have raised the bar of relationships too high. Let me give you an example.
Well, for example, relationships with growing school-age children. This is how this or that mother behaves with them? After all, in any case, it’s not the same as with her lover if she has one. And the same school-age children, I think, would be shocked to see how their mother can tumble in bed with two or even three men.
Now answer yourself - why is this happening?
As Ippolit said in Irony of Fate - "We stopped climbing into the windows of our loved ones! We stopped doing obvious stupid things." Maybe you are just too serious for your women? What for a wife and what for a friend. Maybe it should be a little simpler?
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Re: I want my wife’s friend
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You are right in many respects)Vasyanitsa: ↑14 Feb 2023, 11:11This fact may change the whole matter. If she really has almost no sex with her husband, then on the one hand she can share this with your wife. On the other hand, don’t tell your wife anything about you. And reacting to you is purely reflexive. Simply put, she gets “up” with you and she can’t do anything about it. Well, "gets up" and that’s it! Against her will.
Well, it’s as if you and your wife and someone else were in a sauna and a completely naked woman was sitting opposite you. And you would shine with your tits and pussies.
So you, too, in your case, are shining your bulges in your pants to a sex-hungry woman. Well, she may be reacting to you.
About "both of them are too "decent" for such conversations". This is actually the most common mistake, first by guys and then by men. Like, how is it possiblessss...
An anecdote on this topic...
Lieutenant Rzhevsky is asked - how do you manage to achieve intimacy with women so effectively?
He answers - gentlemen, everything is very simple ! You approach the lady and tell her - would you deign to have sex with me in your bedroom tomorrow afternoon?
They answer him - how is it possiblessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss! You can ssssssssssssssssssssssssss up the face up!
And he answers - half an hour! But more often it worked!
Well, in general, don’t be afraid to get hit in the face! Perhaps this is exactly what is expected of you. If everyone were like you say, “decent for such conversations,” then the human race would have degenerated a long time ago. At least those who are "decent" would degenerate first.
But no, everything is fine with them among the "decent" ones. And they fuck, and they go around and take part in threesomes. And where does everything come from!
I think another husband like you would be very surprised if he saw his wife somewhere on a business trip in a relaxed state.
I think it’s just all about you personally. It’s just that you, either with your wife or with your friend, have raised the bar of relationships too high. Let me give you an example.
Well, for example, relationships with growing school-age children. This is how this or that mother behaves with them? After all, in any case, it’s not the same as with her lover if she has one. And the same school-age children, I think, would be shocked to see how their mother can tumble in bed with two or even three men.
Now answer yourself - why is this happening?
As Ippolit said in Irony of Fate - "We stopped climbing into the windows of our loved ones! We stopped doing obvious stupid things." Maybe you are just too serious for your women? What for a wife and what for a friend. Maybe it should be a little simpler?
So I kind of tried to get it in the face)). I wrote above that I made an attempt to kiss her. But she didn’t seem to understand and turned her cheek)). Maybe I should have said directly - I want to kiss?!) But for this I had to drink more).Vasyanitsa: ↑14 Feb 2023, 11:11 Well, in general, don’t be afraid to get hit in the face! Perhaps this is exactly what they expect from you.
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You are very mistaken. On forums, most people just read and few people write. Therefore, I don’t see the need to go private. People find this topic interesting. And how. Because this is the topic, it was and will be. I mean family friends.
And you need to understand that if a family has a friend, no matter what gender, then he will definitely have sex with someone in the family. Either with a husband or with a wife. And this is always where it ends.
In general, the very fact that this or that person is part of the family and visits it regularly indicates that someone in this family likes him. The husband thinks that his friend is constantly hanging out in their house because his friend needs him. But in fact, the friend just likes his husband’s wife. Well, the husband continues to think something about male friendship and all that.
More to come...
If the husband’s friend were unpleasant to his wife, she would have long ago I would fuck my husband with what an asshole this friend of his is. But if this does not happen, it simply means that his wife also likes this friend. And in general they have mutual attraction. The wife likes his friend and likes his attention to her. A friend is concerned about the appetizing curves of his husband’s wife. And if from time to time they grab each other’s ass and various other places - well, then absolutely - or sex has already happened. Or he will not be today - tomorrow.
And he can be anytime and anywhere. The most common scenario in everyday life is when the three of us sat down to celebrate something and the husband suddenly, out of the blue, became upset. That is, he passed out completely. My wife and friend continue to drink - well, don’t pour what else you have down the sink. Well, then everything happens by itself. And often I heard it right there in front of my husband. He sleeps without his hind legs on the bed. And people are fucking on the floor, throwing some kind of sackcloth onto the floor.
And honestly, I wouldn’t even call this treason or any kind of whoreness or debauchery. No....
I think this is quite natural. That is, if you are an adult, then you need to understand that sooner or later a family friend will definitely sleep with a member of this family. This is how it always was, this is how it is and this is how it will always be. And I believe that those families who do not make a tragedy out of this are happy in their own way. And who happily accept it and simply benefit from it, and don’t see it as a big problem.
About "I wrote above that I tried to kiss her..."
Well, you’re just like at school in the fifth grade when a boy in a dark locker room plucks up the courage to kiss a girl on the cheek. You would kiss her again and then run away, embarrassed...

I’ll tell you one big secret which actually is not a secret and is the most commonplace. But for some reason no one wants to see or perceive her.
Well, in general, you should only pursue a woman when she likes you. Or at least not disgusting.
That is, a woman should like a man. And that’s the whole point. If a woman likes a man, then she behaves like a woman and not like an old, harmful woman. Then out of nowhere comes tenderness, embarrassment, excitement, and the prospect of sex. And if you definitely don’t like it, then no matter what you do, you will be mercilessly banned.
I think you need to somehow find out how your friend treats you.
But in general, I already said above that if I were you, I would start with my wife and not with my girlfriend. That is, I think we need to resolve this issue with my wife. And then the issue with his girlfriend will be resolved by itself. And if you do anything behind your wife’s back, you just might end up causing problems for yourself. Because fucking my wife’s friend is, in my opinion, very dangerous. She will definitely tell her wife about this and you have problems.
In this sense, a family friend risks less if he fucks his wife behind her husband’s back. Because it would never occur to a friend to tell her husband about this. And the wife won’t even tell. But a friend can easily do it. All they have to do is quarrel and she will tell her everything. Or your wife will offend her friend in some way and she will tell everything to get her off.
Well, in general, settle this issue with your wife first.
Do you think that if no one writes here, then it’s just the two of us?Danafil: ↑15 Feb 2023, 02:01 So I kind of tried to get it in the face)). I wrote above that I made an attempt to kiss her. But she didn’t seem to understand and turned her cheek)). Maybe I should have said directly - I want to kiss?!) But for this I had to drink more).
Let’s move on to private communication with you, but the author’s topic here has completely withered away. We are talking alone). Write to me in a personal message?

You are very mistaken. On forums, most people just read and few people write. Therefore, I don’t see the need to go private. People find this topic interesting. And how. Because this is the topic, it was and will be. I mean family friends.

And you need to understand that if a family has a friend, no matter what gender, then he will definitely have sex with someone in the family. Either with a husband or with a wife. And this is always where it ends.
In general, the very fact that this or that person is part of the family and visits it regularly indicates that someone in this family likes him. The husband thinks that his friend is constantly hanging out in their house because his friend needs him. But in fact, the friend just likes his husband’s wife. Well, the husband continues to think something about male friendship and all that.
More to come...
If the husband’s friend were unpleasant to his wife, she would have long ago I would fuck my husband with what an asshole this friend of his is. But if this does not happen, it simply means that his wife also likes this friend. And in general they have mutual attraction. The wife likes his friend and likes his attention to her. A friend is concerned about the appetizing curves of his husband’s wife. And if from time to time they grab each other’s ass and various other places - well, then absolutely - or sex has already happened. Or he will not be today - tomorrow.
And he can be anytime and anywhere. The most common scenario in everyday life is when the three of us sat down to celebrate something and the husband suddenly, out of the blue, became upset. That is, he passed out completely. My wife and friend continue to drink - well, don’t pour what else you have down the sink. Well, then everything happens by itself. And often I heard it right there in front of my husband. He sleeps without his hind legs on the bed. And people are fucking on the floor, throwing some kind of sackcloth onto the floor.
And honestly, I wouldn’t even call this treason or any kind of whoreness or debauchery. No....
I think this is quite natural. That is, if you are an adult, then you need to understand that sooner or later a family friend will definitely sleep with a member of this family. This is how it always was, this is how it is and this is how it will always be. And I believe that those families who do not make a tragedy out of this are happy in their own way. And who happily accept it and simply benefit from it, and don’t see it as a big problem.
About "I wrote above that I tried to kiss her..."
Well, you’re just like at school in the fifth grade when a boy in a dark locker room plucks up the courage to kiss a girl on the cheek. You would kiss her again and then run away, embarrassed...

I’ll tell you one big secret which actually is not a secret and is the most commonplace. But for some reason no one wants to see or perceive her.
Well, in general, you should only pursue a woman when she likes you. Or at least not disgusting.
That is, a woman should like a man. And that’s the whole point. If a woman likes a man, then she behaves like a woman and not like an old, harmful woman. Then out of nowhere comes tenderness, embarrassment, excitement, and the prospect of sex. And if you definitely don’t like it, then no matter what you do, you will be mercilessly banned.
I think you need to somehow find out how your friend treats you.
But in general, I already said above that if I were you, I would start with my wife and not with my girlfriend. That is, I think we need to resolve this issue with my wife. And then the issue with his girlfriend will be resolved by itself. And if you do anything behind your wife’s back, you just might end up causing problems for yourself. Because fucking my wife’s friend is, in my opinion, very dangerous. She will definitely tell her wife about this and you have problems.
In this sense, a family friend risks less if he fucks his wife behind her husband’s back. Because it would never occur to a friend to tell her husband about this. And the wife won’t even tell. But a friend can easily do it. All they have to do is quarrel and she will tell her everything. Or your wife will offend her friend in some way and she will tell everything to get her off.
Well, in general, settle this issue with your wife first.

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Re: I want my wife’s friend
By about talking to my wife, she guesses about my desires regarding my friend. And I’m not happy about it. It seems to me that it’s dangerous to start a conversation on this topic.
This is definitely understandable, she likes me.Vasyanitsa: ↑15 Feb 2023, 06:48 I think you need to somehow find out how this friend of yours treats you.
By about talking to my wife, she guesses about my desires regarding my friend. And I’m not happy about it. It seems to me that it’s dangerous to start a conversation on this topic.
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Re: I want my wife’s friend
When pebbles are visible at the bottom and when it crunches under your feet and bends. And when you can’t stand in one place, you have to move. But very carefully and without sudden movements. And at any moment you can fall into the icy water and go under the ice, especially if there is still a strong current there, it is generally deadly.
Well, in general, I do not advise you to climb on your friend without the permission of your wife. You will have a lot of problems, including divorce and division of property.
Different people have different attitudes to this. I mean wives. Someone is looking through their fingers. I even heard from some couple such a saying, voiced by the man of this couple - when I fuck someone, we fuck (my wife). When they fuck you (your wife), then they fuck us.
For a foreigner the meaning is completely incomprehensible, but for a native Russian speaker I think the general meaning is clear - when a husband fucks, it’s good, and when they fuck a wife, it’s bad.
Well, so...
This or that couple, let’s say, is normal in taking liberties from one side or another. But when it’s not behind each other’s backs and when no one is hiding anything from anyone. And when, against this background, one of this couple finds out that something happened on the side. And when they didn’t tell him anything about it. This is already treason and, in a sense, even betrayal.
And the most important thing that existed in the family relationship of this couple has been lost - trust.
This is something that should never be lost In this case, it is trust in each other. If it exists, of course.
Because you, for example, can think about your wife, you have trust between you. And then, quite by accident and unexpectedly, you find out that your wife regularly fucks with someone at work. And everything turns upside down. And your wife’s dissatisfaction with the fact that you want to fuck her friend is perceived in a completely different way.
Like she’s fucking someone, but at the same time she keeps you on a short leash and has a negative attitude towards your idea of fucking girlfriend. Knowing that you want it and that you will be very pleased with it. And that will be very nice for your friend. But she still doesn’t want this to happen.
But at the same time, in relation to herself, she allows sex with someone else besides you.
And it turns out that she opposes your relationship with her friend, firstly, purely out of harm .
And secondly, guided by double standards - she can, but you can’t.
Knowing that this is dishonest towards you. And in theory, she should, for example, tell you that she is fucking with someone on the side. But she knows that the scales will then tip heavily in your direction. And for her it is uncomfortable. She is much more pleased when you are to blame for something. One woman once told me that her husband is guilty of a very necessary and useful thing in the household. And therefore, it is very beneficial for a woman to blame her husband for any far-fetched reason.
Very many women achieve great skill in this. That is, they know how to make a man constantly guilty out of the blue. But the subtlety here is that the husband is guilty when he himself agrees to it. Otherwise, if he doesn’t agree, then all this won’t work.
How can you make your husband guilty? It’s very simple!
You need to ask him to do something, knowing that he definitely won’t do it. And ask him about it at the most inopportune moment. And ask him to promise to do it. And then be sure to remind him about it. And ask when he will finally do it. And again ask him to promise.
He will promise again and again will not do it. By the way, for completely objective reasons. But this doesn’t interest anyone, right!?
And after some time you can scold your husband and say that he only promises and does nothing. For example...
And the husband agrees - yes, he promised! Yes, he didn’t!
And so he is to blame. By the way, completely out of nowhere and completely out of stupidity. Because what he didn’t do there was actually of no use to anyone. And he might not have done it.
But all he had to do was show his will, focus on the problem - and or simply say I won’t do it. Or say - let’s discuss this at home in the kitchen later. And don’t promise anything along the way. That is, you should never brush aside the annoying requests of women. And he always treats them with the utmost care. Because this can then make you guilty of all mortal sins. And then she will scold you and there will be absolutely nothing to say in her defense.
Although, of course, there are some individuals who are not bothered by all these subtleties and just tell you to fuck off almost anything wrong.
Like, listen, well, I promised, so what!? Fuck off!
And then the man needs to think - why does a woman live with him whom he openly tells to fuck off and she is not offended!?
Maybe she lives with him simply because he pays all her wishes!?
But on the other hand, the husband who doesn’t say fuck you, but feels guilty, maybe he also needs to think - why and why is his wife manipulating him, making him guilty out of nowhere? !?
Maybe because he’s a fucking idiot!?
Maybe she’s fucking there left and right and she even forbids him to watch porn on the Internet?
And is all this fair to each other? to friend?
And it’s also risky to attack your friend. Understand, it’s one thing to fuck someone on the side. At work or even somewhere on a business trip. Whom the wife never even saw. It’s a completely different matter, girlfriend. This is what I call thin ice. Have you ever walked on thin transparent ice?
When pebbles are visible at the bottom and when it crunches under your feet and bends. And when you can’t stand in one place, you have to move. But very carefully and without sudden movements. And at any moment you can fall into the icy water and go under the ice, especially if there is still a strong current there, it is generally deadly.
Well, in general, I do not advise you to climb on your friend without the permission of your wife. You will have a lot of problems, including divorce and division of property.
Different people have different attitudes to this. I mean wives. Someone is looking through their fingers. I even heard from some couple such a saying, voiced by the man of this couple - when I fuck someone, we fuck (my wife). When they fuck you (your wife), then they fuck us.
For a foreigner the meaning is completely incomprehensible, but for a native Russian speaker I think the general meaning is clear - when a husband fucks, it’s good, and when they fuck a wife, it’s bad.
Well, so...
This or that couple, let’s say, is normal in taking liberties from one side or another. But when it’s not behind each other’s backs and when no one is hiding anything from anyone. And when, against this background, one of this couple finds out that something happened on the side. And when they didn’t tell him anything about it. This is already treason and, in a sense, even betrayal.
And the most important thing that existed in the family relationship of this couple has been lost - trust.
This is something that should never be lost In this case, it is trust in each other. If it exists, of course.
Because you, for example, can think about your wife, you have trust between you. And then, quite by accident and unexpectedly, you find out that your wife regularly fucks with someone at work. And everything turns upside down. And your wife’s dissatisfaction with the fact that you want to fuck her friend is perceived in a completely different way.
Like she’s fucking someone, but at the same time she keeps you on a short leash and has a negative attitude towards your idea of fucking girlfriend. Knowing that you want it and that you will be very pleased with it. And that will be very nice for your friend. But she still doesn’t want this to happen.
But at the same time, in relation to herself, she allows sex with someone else besides you.
And it turns out that she opposes your relationship with her friend, firstly, purely out of harm .
And secondly, guided by double standards - she can, but you can’t.
Knowing that this is dishonest towards you. And in theory, she should, for example, tell you that she is fucking with someone on the side. But she knows that the scales will then tip heavily in your direction. And for her it is uncomfortable. She is much more pleased when you are to blame for something. One woman once told me that her husband is guilty of a very necessary and useful thing in the household. And therefore, it is very beneficial for a woman to blame her husband for any far-fetched reason.
Very many women achieve great skill in this. That is, they know how to make a man constantly guilty out of the blue. But the subtlety here is that the husband is guilty when he himself agrees to it. Otherwise, if he doesn’t agree, then all this won’t work.
How can you make your husband guilty? It’s very simple!
You need to ask him to do something, knowing that he definitely won’t do it. And ask him about it at the most inopportune moment. And ask him to promise to do it. And then be sure to remind him about it. And ask when he will finally do it. And again ask him to promise.
He will promise again and again will not do it. By the way, for completely objective reasons. But this doesn’t interest anyone, right!?

And after some time you can scold your husband and say that he only promises and does nothing. For example...
And the husband agrees - yes, he promised! Yes, he didn’t!
And so he is to blame. By the way, completely out of nowhere and completely out of stupidity. Because what he didn’t do there was actually of no use to anyone. And he might not have done it.
But all he had to do was show his will, focus on the problem - and or simply say I won’t do it. Or say - let’s discuss this at home in the kitchen later. And don’t promise anything along the way. That is, you should never brush aside the annoying requests of women. And he always treats them with the utmost care. Because this can then make you guilty of all mortal sins. And then she will scold you and there will be absolutely nothing to say in her defense.
Although, of course, there are some individuals who are not bothered by all these subtleties and just tell you to fuck off almost anything wrong.
Like, listen, well, I promised, so what!? Fuck off!
And then the man needs to think - why does a woman live with him whom he openly tells to fuck off and she is not offended!?
Maybe she lives with him simply because he pays all her wishes!?
But on the other hand, the husband who doesn’t say fuck you, but feels guilty, maybe he also needs to think - why and why is his wife manipulating him, making him guilty out of nowhere? !?
Maybe because he’s a fucking idiot!?
Maybe she’s fucking there left and right and she even forbids him to watch porn on the Internet?
And is all this fair to each other? to friend?
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Re: I want my wife’s friend
As for the sanctions from my wife to fuck a friend... I’ll try if the circumstances are successful)
I completely agree.
As for the sanctions from my wife to fuck a friend... I’ll try if the circumstances are successful)
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Re: I want my wife’s friend
But it’s not that easy to sell. You need to take a good photo beforehand. And for this you need to pull out this joystick and carry out pre-sale preparation. Clean it from dust and dirt. Wipe with isopropyl alcohol so that it looks like new and is not tattered. There is no alcohol in the house - we need to go buy it. The question is - where?
That is, you must first go find alcohol, then wipe off the joystick, then find its original box, which is definitely somewhere on the mezzanine. Then take a photo. Then edit the photos. Then create an ad on Avito. Write a good sales text there. And first you need to monitor on Avito how much joysticks similar to yours cost. Enter the price. I will finally announce it.
And then wait. If it doesn’t take two weeks, then reduce the price by a little something or other. If it doesn’t go away after another two weeks, then reduce the price again. And thus reduce until they buy.
And this is a lot of time even if you do all this. And we need to find this time somewhere. And where can you find it if you come home from work and you’re tired as a dog and you want to eat and watch TV. And don’t fuck up some joystick and turn over all the mezzanines in search of its original box.
Or you can simply forget that you promised to do this. Just because you have a lot of other things to do that are more important than freeing the joystick on the shelf. And sometimes it’s easier for you to say: if it bothers you, throw it out. And that’s probably what needs to be said.
But you felt sorry for the joystick, you bought it. It costs 35 thousand.
And that’s what is more valuable to you - your manhood or a joystick. But you still don’t know that you will be pushed around the table with your face because of him. And so you throw it over your shoulder - yes, I will sell it on Avito. All! You’ve got it!
Because they will definitely remember this, along with a dozen other similar things that you forgot to think about.
For example, gluing up wallpaper throughout the entire apartment. Fix the vacuum cleaner, move the refrigerator and wash all the dirt behind it and under it.
And so on and so forth.
And you say - I take it and do it.
Well, well!!!
It could be anything. Let’s say a forgotten expensive joystick is lying in the closet collecting dust. She said that she was taking up space. Free up space - sell on Avito. You’re like, okay, I’ll sell it.
But it’s not that easy to sell. You need to take a good photo beforehand. And for this you need to pull out this joystick and carry out pre-sale preparation. Clean it from dust and dirt. Wipe with isopropyl alcohol so that it looks like new and is not tattered. There is no alcohol in the house - we need to go buy it. The question is - where?
That is, you must first go find alcohol, then wipe off the joystick, then find its original box, which is definitely somewhere on the mezzanine. Then take a photo. Then edit the photos. Then create an ad on Avito. Write a good sales text there. And first you need to monitor on Avito how much joysticks similar to yours cost. Enter the price. I will finally announce it.
And then wait. If it doesn’t take two weeks, then reduce the price by a little something or other. If it doesn’t go away after another two weeks, then reduce the price again. And thus reduce until they buy.
And this is a lot of time even if you do all this. And we need to find this time somewhere. And where can you find it if you come home from work and you’re tired as a dog and you want to eat and watch TV. And don’t fuck up some joystick and turn over all the mezzanines in search of its original box.
Or you can simply forget that you promised to do this. Just because you have a lot of other things to do that are more important than freeing the joystick on the shelf. And sometimes it’s easier for you to say: if it bothers you, throw it out. And that’s probably what needs to be said.
But you felt sorry for the joystick, you bought it. It costs 35 thousand.
And that’s what is more valuable to you - your manhood or a joystick. But you still don’t know that you will be pushed around the table with your face because of him. And so you throw it over your shoulder - yes, I will sell it on Avito. All! You’ve got it!
Because they will definitely remember this, along with a dozen other similar things that you forgot to think about.
For example, gluing up wallpaper throughout the entire apartment. Fix the vacuum cleaner, move the refrigerator and wash all the dirt behind it and under it.
And so on and so forth.
And you say - I take it and do it.
Well, well!!!
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