Axler: ↑16 Mar 2023, 14:34
I have my own classification of people, and in accordance with it, the attitude towards lies is graded
Exactly! In other words, I essentially wanted to write Except that in the fifth point I wouldn’t be so categorical, there are white lies. There is no point in swearing at anything.
One friend, after breaking up with her husband, said about him: What an honest bastard! Why did he admit to me that he cheated on me?? Both are idiots, one has an excessive conscience, the other has cast-iron principles.
[quote=Axler post_id=179628 time=1679002486 user_id=3836] I have my own classification of people, and in accordance with it, the attitude towards lies is graded[/quote] Exactly! In other words, I essentially wanted to write :clever: Except that in the fifth point I wouldn’t be so categorical, there are white lies. There is no point in swearing at anything. One friend, after breaking up with her husband, said about him: What an honest bastard! Why did he admit to me that he cheated on me?? Both are idiots, one has an excessive conscience, the other has cast-iron principles.
Marinka: ↑16 Mar 2023, 11:57
Do you always tell the truth and should a woman tell the truth to her man?
Of course not. And I will never say everything, and I don’t think a woman should say everything. The truth is not always worth telling. Sometimes it’s better to remain silent. But it’s best to just say it, but not everything. Or in your own interpretation.
[quote=Marinka post_id=179554 time=1678993069 user_id=12161] Do you always tell the truth and should a woman tell the truth to her man? [/quote]Of course not. And I will never say everything, and I don’t think a woman should say everything. The truth is not always worth telling. Sometimes it’s better to remain silent. But it’s best to just say it, but not everything. Or in your own interpretation.
Axler: ↑18 Mar 2023, 03:05
(who in every sense was my first and only woman at that time). And then I somehow realized that, first of all, people are not so different at all.
Look at it, maybe not as much as it seems, but still different. The main misconception is that after a long, and even more so, a single relationship, they are looking for exactly the same ones. Habit is second nature, it is difficult to overcome the stereotype. It is psychologically difficult to go beyond and understand that it can be good to be something completely different, with a partner of a different build, a relationship based on some other values, with conversations on other topics and all that... I think many people stumbled over this. In general, this is a gap in education and upbringing; traditions have been lost.
[quote=Axler post_id=180307 time=1679133932 user_id=3836] (who in every sense was my first and only woman at that time). And then I somehow realized that, first of all, people are not so different at all.[/quote] Look at it, maybe not as much as it seems, but still different. The main misconception is that after a long, and even more so, a single relationship, they are looking for exactly the same ones. Habit is second nature, it is difficult to overcome the stereotype. It is psychologically difficult to go beyond and understand that it can be good to be something completely different, with a partner of a different build, a relationship based on some other values, with conversations on [url=viewforum.php?f=1]other topics[/url] and all that... I think many people stumbled over this. In general, this is a gap in education and upbringing; traditions have been lost.
Probably it all depends on the point of view, but in my 37 years, moving across the whole world, almost 15 years of work in law enforcement agencies, the loss wife in the service (she was also a police officer) - I have never found cases for myself when this phrase would be justified. A lie is always a lie. And someone always benefits from it. Therefore, a lie to save one is the death of another.
FUCKYAMATERITY: ↑22 Mar 2023, 09:43
Look, maybe not as much as it seems, but still different
I once heard an allegory with chocolate candies - maybe different chocolate, different the wrapper, and even the filling is different, but the essence remains the same - it’s sweetness. In principle, my practice confirms this. I live in a small town (12k people), I know almost all the residents, many informally. Analyzing them, archetypes, behavioral models, and “skeletons” that they hide in closets emerge very clearly)
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[quote=FUCKYAMATERITY post_id=181943 time=1679502239 user_id=9290] there are white lies [/quote] Probably it all depends on the point of view, but in my 37 years, moving across the whole world, almost 15 years of work in law enforcement agencies, the loss wife in the service (she was also a police officer) - I have never found cases for myself when this phrase would be justified. A lie is always a lie. And someone always benefits from it. Therefore, a lie to save one is the death of another. [quote=FUCKYAMATERITY post_id=181950 time=1679503414 user_id=9290] Look, maybe not as much as it seems, but still different [/quote] I once heard an allegory with chocolate candies - maybe different chocolate, different the wrapper, and even the filling is different, but the essence remains the same - it’s sweetness. In principle, my practice confirms this. I live in a small town (12k people), I know almost all the residents, many informally. Analyzing them, archetypes, behavioral models, and “skeletons” that they hide in closets emerge very clearly)
Marinka: ↑16 Mar 2023, 11:57
Should a woman tell the truth to her man?
It depends. Women sometimes lie irrationally; one of my exes reduced her experience with eight men to two for her husband, for some reason. Moreover, he had every chance of accidentally finding out the truth. And it’s almost intact, only two and not at the same time)) It was a blast.
[quote=Marinka post_id=179554 time=1678993069 user_id=12161] Should a woman tell the truth to her man?[/quote] It depends. Women sometimes lie irrationally; one of my exes reduced her experience with eight men to two for her husband, for some reason. Moreover, he had every chance of accidentally finding out the truth. And it’s almost intact, only two and not at the same time)) It was a blast.
Axler: ↑22 Mar 2023, 09:58
I have never found any cases where this phrase would be justified
Interpreted according to the situation, I don’t want to give personal examples in detail. Was. Important for the feelings of dying relatives, for example.
But we’re talking about sex here, it’s probably also sometimes applicable.
[quote=Axler post_id=181953 time=1679504287 user_id=3836] I have never found any cases where this phrase would be justified[/quote] Interpreted according to the situation, I don’t want to give personal examples in detail. Was. Important for the feelings of dying relatives, for example. But we’re talking about sex here, it’s probably also sometimes applicable.
FUCKYAMATERITY: ↑22 Mar 2023, 10:25
Important for the feelings of dying relatives, for example.
I had to say this. Both to the dying people and their relatives. I have always believed that it is better to find soft but honest words so that people do not waste their last moments, but do something that is most important for themselves.
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[quote=FUCKYAMATERITY post_id=181962 time=1679505945 user_id=9290] Important for the feelings of dying relatives, for example. [/quote] I had to say this. Both to the dying people and their relatives. I have always believed that it is better to find soft but honest words so that people do not waste their last moments, but do something that is most important for themselves.
FUCKYAMATERITY: ↑22 Mar 2023, 10:25
Important for the feelings of dying relatives, for example.
I had to say this. Both to the dying people and their relatives. I have always believed that it is better to find soft but honest words so that people do not waste their last moments, but do something that is most important for themselves.
The truth can kill the dying before their time.
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[quote=Axler post_id=181966 time=1679506398 user_id=3836] [quote=FUCKYAMATERITY post_id=181962 time=1679505945 user_id= 9290] Important for the feelings of dying relatives, for example. [/quote] I had to say this. Both to the dying people and their relatives. I have always believed that it is better to find soft but honest words so that people do not waste their last moments, but do something that is most important for themselves. [/quote]
It depends on what we’re talking about. If the discussion is about the quality of sex, then yes - always the truth, sometimes smoothing the corners.
If we are talking about the need to share everything about your past and present, without having secrets, then this idea is bullshit. Everyone should have personal space, there is nothing wrong with that.
Moreover, "an open book girl" will simply be boring and uninteresting
It depends on what we’re talking about. If the discussion is about the quality of sex, then yes - always the truth, sometimes smoothing the corners. If we are talking about the need to share everything about your past and present, without having secrets, then this idea is bullshit. Everyone should have personal space, there is nothing wrong with that. Moreover, "an open book girl" will simply be boring and uninteresting
Marinka: ↑16 Mar 2023, 11:57
Do you always tell the truth and should a woman tell the truth to her man?
Ha, stupid question. There is not a single person who tells everything the truth. Everyone lies, or leaves something out, or distorts it. https://i.postimg.cc/fWty1zMG/2006782.jpg
Картинка на тему.
[quote=Marinka post_id=179554 time=1678993069 user_id=12161] Do you always tell the truth and should a woman tell the truth to her man? [/quote] Ha, stupid question. There is not a single person who tells everything the truth. Everyone lies, or leaves something out, or distorts it. [url=https://postimages.org/ ] [img]https://i.postimg.cc/fWty1zMG/2006782.jpg[/img][/url] Картинка на тему.
Well, I don’t know about the truth to husbands, but my position is that what happened before me remains in the past and does not concern me. Some were told to me, some were not. I don’t torture myself, if he wants to, he’ll tell you.
Although I know that there are those who are so twisted, like, you fucked with him, now don’t come near me.
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Well, I don’t know about the truth to husbands, but my position is that what happened before me remains in the past and does not concern me. Some were told to me, some were not. I don’t torture myself, if he wants to, he’ll tell you. Although I know that there are those who are so twisted, like, you fucked with him, now don’t come near me.
[quote=Marinka post_id=179554 time=1678993069 user_id=12161] Do you always tell the truth and should a woman tell the truth to her man? [/quote] In short, the answer is NO.
Rtrc: ↑17 Mar 2023, 09:45
Of course, it’s worth telling the truth. For everything secret will sooner or later become clear, it’s a matter of time.
And for lying, in this case, very serious troubles will follow. Very.
Therefore, it’s worth telling everything as it is. It will be very unpleasant when you say one thing, and then
something else is revealed (and it will definitely be revealed).
A controversial thesis. .. If the truth concerns other non-sexual aspects - maybe, but even then a lot depends on the situation... What about sex? So, offhand, from personal experience - the truth that I know:
At school age, my mother got me a ticket to a departmental pioneer camp at sea, one of the pioneer leaders in which was the daughter of the head of the organization, from which the pioneer camp was located. Married, has a child. During the shift, we spied how this girl was fucked in all holes by a pumped-up physical teacher of a pioneer camp (mid-70s).
In a sports camp, a coach fucked a pretty curvy cook (the first half of the 70s).
In a work and rest camp from school, a physical education teacher banged a tall, skinny and flat-chested teacher of the same subject, according to apparently an athlete (late 70s).
During a trip to a departmental rest home, I spied on how my mother had sex with some person from their organization (second half of the 70s).
More than thirty years ago, I was scammed for sex and other sexual acts with his wife’s mother (at the turn of the 80s - 90s).
Ten years ago I fucked my wife’s friend.
Can I do something else? remember...
And who needs such truth?! Who of their defendants would feel better from such a truth? The question clearly does not have a clear answer...
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[quote=Rtrc post_id=180002 time=1679071516 user_id=14965] Of course, it’s worth telling the truth. For everything secret will sooner or later become clear, it’s a matter of time. And for lying, in this case, very serious troubles will follow. Very. Therefore, it’s worth telling everything as it is. It will be very unpleasant when you say one thing, and then something else is revealed (and it will definitely be revealed). [/quote]
A controversial thesis. .. If the truth concerns other non-sexual aspects - maybe, but even then a lot depends on the situation... What about sex? So, offhand, from personal experience - the truth that I know:
At school age, my mother got me a ticket to a departmental pioneer camp at sea, one of the pioneer leaders in which was the daughter of the head of the organization, from which the pioneer camp was located. Married, has a child. During the shift, we spied how this girl was fucked in all holes by a pumped-up physical teacher of a pioneer camp (mid-70s). In a sports camp, a coach fucked a pretty curvy cook (the first half of the 70s). In a work and rest camp from school, a physical education teacher banged a tall, skinny and flat-chested teacher of the same subject, according to apparently an athlete (late 70s). During a trip to a departmental rest home, I spied on how my mother had sex with some person from their organization (second half of the 70s). More than thirty years ago, I was scammed for sex and other sexual acts with his wife’s mother (at the turn of the 80s - 90s). Ten years ago I fucked my wife’s friend.
Can I do something else? remember...
And who needs such truth?! Who of their defendants would feel better from such a truth? The question clearly does not have a clear answer...
Dictator: ↑30 May 2023, 06:17
....In the camp for work and rest from school, a physical education teacher pinned a tall, skinny and flat-chested teacher of the same subject, apparently an athlete (late 70s).
During a trip to departmental rest home spied on how my mother had sex with some person from their organization (second half of the 70s).
More than thirty years ago, I scammed my wife’s mother (on at the turn of the 80s - 90s).
Ten years ago I fucked my wife’s friend.
Can I remember something else... n
And who needs such truth?! Who of their defendants would feel better from such a truth? The question clearly does not contain a clear answer...
I think everyone has something to remember and everyone has their own list of adventures. But as for whether he’s telling the truth or not, no one simply asked me about it. Maybe without details, but I’m not used to lying
[quote=Dictator post_id=208910 time=1685452668 user_id=11798] ....In the camp for work and rest from school, a physical education teacher pinned a tall, skinny and flat-chested teacher of the same subject, apparently an athlete (late 70s). During a trip to departmental rest home spied on how my mother had sex with some person from their organization (second half of the 70s). More than thirty years ago, I scammed my wife’s mother (on at the turn of the 80s - 90s). Ten years ago I fucked my wife’s friend.
Can I remember something else... n And who needs such truth?! Who of their defendants would feel better from such a truth? The question clearly does not contain a clear answer... [/quote] I think everyone has something to remember and everyone has their own list of adventures. But as for whether he’s telling the truth or not, no one simply asked me about it. Maybe without details, but I’m not used to lying
How many people, so many opinions. I never hid the truth, if I was asked about the past, I always honestly told it like it was) and I would like the same from my partner. I’m not one of those who will judge for number of partnersor for some moral qualities. I believe that the past is an experience and it can be shared) but you can’t judge for it)
Another point, if you have something to hide at the moment, then it’s better not to talk.
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How many people, so many opinions. I never hid the truth, if I was asked about the past, I always honestly told it like it was) and I would like the same from my partner. I’m not one of those who will judge for [url=viewtopic.php?t=12121]number of partners[/ url]or for some moral qualities. I believe that the past is an experience and it can be shared) but you can’t judge for it) Another point, if you have something to hide at the moment, then it’s better not to talk.
I haven’t read the comments yet, but I will. My opinion is never tell the truth to anyone.
80% of the truth hurts: either the addressee, or the speaker, or both.
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I haven’t read the comments yet, but I will. My opinion is never tell the truth to anyone. 80% of the truth hurts: either the addressee, or the speaker, or both.
RazVratnik, and how successful was your strategy "not hide the truth"? Made your life easier?
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Hooligan Carrie: ↑30 May 2023, 09:26
I haven’t read the comments yet, but I will. My opinion - never tell the truth to anyone.
80% of the truth hurts: either the addressee, or the speaker, or both.
nNever to anyone - skewed in the other direction...
[ref=#0000ff]RazVratnik[/ref], and how successful was your strategy "not hide the truth"? Made your life easier?
[size=85][color=green]Sent after 1 minute 41 seconds:[/color][/size] [quote="Hooligan Carrie" post_id=208999 time=1685463991 user_id =18654] I haven’t read the comments yet, but I will. My opinion - never tell the truth to anyone. 80% of the truth hurts: either the addressee, or the speaker, or both. [/quote] nNever to anyone - skewed in the other direction...
[quote=niqk post_id=209000 time=1685464288 user_id=218] RazVratnik, and how successful was your strategy of “not hiding the truth”? Did I make your life easier? [/quote] Yes, it’s much easier than lying) well, at least for me, I don’t like lying)
[quote=niqk post_id=209035 time=1685470592 user_id=218] and here it would be good to know exactly what a lie is... [/quote] Deception with the aim of misleading or hiding the truth. Or does this word have other decodings?)
[quote=niqk post_id=209042 time=1685471251 user_id=218] mislead? hide the truth? Hmm... These are completely different concepts: delusion and truth. Isn’t it? [/quote] No need to read between the lines. Or is this a failed attempt to be sarcastic?
And I’m never interested in what happened before me. First of all, it doesn’t matter to me. What matters is what started with me. And I myself try not to tell unless there are direct questions. But at the same time, from a certain moment, I made it a rule to tell it like it is. If there is a direct question, I give a direct answer. It may not always be pleasant. But honest.
And I’m never interested in what happened before me. First of all, it doesn’t matter to me. What matters is what started with me. And I myself try not to tell unless there are direct questions. But at the same time, from a certain moment, I made it a rule to tell it like it is. If there is a direct question, I give a direct answer. It may not always be pleasant. But honest.
Hooligan Carrie: ↑30 May 2023, 09:26
I haven’t read the comments yet, but I will. My opinion - never tell the truth to anyone.
80% of the truth hurts: either the addressee, or the speaker, or both.
that’s it, yes ! 80%, almost everything needs to be either hidden or distorted) can you explain with examples how such a quantity can hurt? ) The only thing that comes to mind is to tell a person the truth about his weak points (which can be offensive), but this is clearly not 80%
[quote="Hooligan Carrie" post_id=208999 time=1685463991 user_id=18654] I haven’t read the comments yet, but I will. My opinion - never tell the truth to anyone. 80% of the truth hurts: either the addressee, or the speaker, or both. [/quote] that’s it, yes ! 80%, almost everything needs to be either hidden or distorted) can you explain with examples how such a quantity can hurt? ) The only thing that comes to mind is to tell a person the truth about his weak points (which can be offensive), but this is clearly not 80% :)
Not telling the truth and lying are completely different concepts. I agree that lying is bad, but not telling the truth is justified in many cases.
And the main thing is that before telling the truth, you need to understand whether the person to whom it is intended wants to know it.
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Not telling the truth and lying are completely different concepts. I agree that lying is bad, but not telling the truth is justified in many cases. And the main thing is that before telling the truth, you need to understand whether the person to whom it is intended wants to know it.
Ksenofont: ↑25 Sep 2023, 10:43
Not telling the truth and lying are completely different concepts. I agree that lying is bad, but not telling the truth is justified in many cases.
And the main thing is that before telling the truth, you need to understand whether the person to whom it is intended wants to know it. n
[quote=Ksenofont post_id=262136 time=1695663807 user_id=17996] Not telling the truth and lying are completely different concepts. I agree that lying is bad, but not telling the truth is justified in many cases. And the main thing is that before telling the truth, you need to understand whether the person to whom it is intended wants to know it. n[/quote]
[quote=Marinka post_id=262140 time=1695664130 user_id=12161] Do you always tell the truth? [/quote] Of course not. I dose depending on the situation. Why offend people with unnecessary truth. But I try not to lie.
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A bright and well-groomed girl will happily spend time with a pleasant man.
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Except that in the fifth point I wouldn’t be so categorical, there are white lies. There is no point in swearing at anything. 
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