Alenka: ↑23 Nov 2023, 08:40◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊ , yes, but if you think further, sooner or later you will want good sex. That means someone, she or he, or maybe both, will follow him to the left.
What will happen next?
There is no cake without a cherry impressive. Sex is not the main thing in a relationship, but you can’t live without it. Another thing is that you don’t need to get hung up on it. You need to learn to adapt to your partner and then even with cunnilingus lovers you can get along well.
And, by the way, if we proceed from the logic of the ladies, blowjob lovers end up with overgrown vaginas?!
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[quote=Alenka post_id=292634 time=1700757622 user_id=19239] [ref=#bf0000]◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊[/ref] , yes, but if you think further, sooner or later you will want good sex. That means someone, she or he, or maybe both, will follow him to the left. What will happen next? [/quote] There is no cake without a cherry impressive. Sex is not the main thing in a relationship, but you can’t live without it. Another thing is that you don’t need to get hung up on it. You need to learn to adapt to your partner and then even with cunnilingus lovers you can get along well. And, by the way, if we proceed from the logic of the ladies, blowjob lovers end up with overgrown vaginas?!
Alenka: ↑23 Nov 2023, 08:40◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊ , yes, but if you think further, sooner or later you will want good sex. That means someone, she or he, or maybe both, will follow him to the left.
What will happen next?
agree, find compromises, contact a sexologist)
I’ll go from the opposite... you would stay with a person who would humiliate you, insult you, devalue you, betray you, deceive you, but the sex with him would be awesome, amazing, mind-blowing, etc. and so on.? Mmm?..
[quote=Alenka post_id=292634 time=1700757622 user_id=19239] [ref=#bf0000]◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊[/ref] , yes, but if you think further, sooner or later you will want good sex. That means someone, she or he, or maybe both, will follow him to the left. What will happen next? [/quote]agree, find compromises, contact a sexologist) I’ll go from the opposite... you would stay with a person who would humiliate you, insult you, devalue you, betray you, deceive you, but the sex with him would be awesome, amazing, mind-blowing, etc. and so on.? Mmm?..
Ksenofont: ↑23 Nov 2023, 09:19
And, by the way, if we proceed from the logic of the ladies, blowjob lovers end up with an overgrown vagina?!
It can be different: maybe a blowjob lover doesn’t cunnilingus lover.
Sent after 2 minutes 56 seconds: ◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊, I I will also go from the opposite.
Many men will not go to the left, having a respectful, faithful, devoted, loving woman, but who is so-so when it comes to sex?
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[quote=Ksenofont post_id=292657 time=1700759946 user_id=17996] And, by the way, if we proceed from the logic of the ladies, blowjob lovers end up with an overgrown vagina?! [/quote] It can be different: maybe a blowjob lover doesn’t cunnilingus lover.
[size=85] [color=green]Sent after 2 minutes 56 seconds:[/color][/size] [ref=#bf0000]◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊[/ref], I I will also go from the opposite. Many men will not go to the left, having a respectful, faithful, devoted, loving woman, but who is so-so when it comes to sex?
Ksenofont: ↑23 Nov 2023, 09:19
And, by the way, if we proceed from the logic of the ladies, blowjob lovers end up with an overgrown vagina?!
It can be different: maybe a blowjob lover is not a cunnilingus lover.
Sent after 2 minutes 56 seconds: ◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊, I will also go from the opposite.
Many men will not go to the left, having a respectful, faithful, devoted, loving woman, but who is so-so in sex?
you avoided answering)
Maybe someone will go to the left, I don’t know.. I haven’t had that in a relationship.
[quote=Alenka post_id=292702 time=1700764681 user_id=19239] [quote=Ksenofont post_id=292657 time=1700759946 user_id= 17996] And, by the way, if we proceed from the logic of the ladies, blowjob lovers end up with an overgrown vagina?! [/quote] It can be different: maybe a blowjob lover is not a cunnilingus lover.
[size=85][color=green]Sent after 2 minutes 56 seconds:[/color][/size] [ref=#bf0000]◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊[/ref], I will also go from the opposite. Many men will not go to the left, having a respectful, faithful, devoted, loving woman, but who is so-so in sex? [/quote]you avoided answering) Maybe someone will go to the left, I don’t know.. I haven’t had that in a relationship.
Alenka: ↑22 Nov 2023, 23:21
vvm, isn’t it worth it? Lord forgive me.
Sorry, but this is nonsense. I was given cunnilingus by men whose penis stood perfectly, several times a day. I answer. But they simply loved cunnilingus, just as a separate type of sex.
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[quote=Alenka post_id=292333 time=1700724077 user_id=19239] vvm, isn’t it worth it? Lord forgive me. [/quote] Sorry, but this is nonsense. I was given cunnilingus by men whose penis stood perfectly, several times a day. I answer. But they simply loved cunnilingus, just as a separate type of sex.
◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊: ↑23 Nov 2023, 08:35
think for yourself, what is valuable and bonding in your relationship?.. it seems to me that this is the desire to be close, to hear, to understand, to care and to feel too the most in relation to yourself.
I’m not saying that you can do without sex.. no.. but it’s far from in first place.. it’s like the cherry on the cake.
Well, here we are again, twenty-five. The cherry on the cake, a prize for patience and understanding...
Again, damn, this is selling your pussy!
I think that men need to run away without looking back when faced with all this shit.
Like this kind of sex is such a reward and payment. Like your job is to go to work and bring money into the house, and also take care of everyone at home and the house itself. Like hammering nails and all that. Well, defend if you have to. And for all this you will have it as the cherry on the cake!
Fuck it!!!
In general, any normal man is able to earn money for sex. I don’t mean prostitutes. Prostitutes are generally not our, not Russian culture. It seems to me that people indulge in prostitutes more for some kind of show-off and self-indulgence. Like try everything, feel what it’s like when you buy a living person as a slave in the Middle Ages. And this person is in your power for the paid time. But if someone really wants to have sex, and not all this, then he would rather go somewhere to a club and just pick up some girls there for the night. No money and no preconditions, just like that. For the sake of shared pleasure precisely from the process of drinking and sex.
So any man can earn enough to pick up a couple of girls in a club for the night with a friend, and then spend time with them. And for this, a man does not need a wife, a family, a home...
A wife is simply your closest and most necessary person. Exactly like you to her. Without preconditions and without any fucking cherries on the cake!
Without this lies and trading - you give me - I give you.
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[quote="◊_NeBo[_Na_] LaDoNi_◊" post_id=292632 time=1700757301 user_id=5795] think for yourself, what is valuable and bonding in your relationship?.. it seems to me that this is the desire to be close, to hear, to understand, to care and to feel too the most in relation to yourself. I’m not saying that you can do without sex.. no.. but it’s far from in first place.. it’s like the cherry on the cake. [/quote]Well, here we are again, twenty-five. The cherry on the cake, a prize for patience and understanding... Again, damn, this is selling your pussy! I think that men need to run away without looking back when faced with all this shit. Like this kind of sex is such a reward and payment. Like your job is to go to work and bring money into the house, and also take care of everyone at home and the house itself. Like hammering nails and all that. Well, defend if you have to. And for all this you will have it as the cherry on the cake! Fuck it!!!
In general, any normal man is able to earn money for sex. I don’t mean prostitutes. Prostitutes are generally not our, not Russian culture. It seems to me that people indulge in prostitutes more for some kind of show-off and self-indulgence. Like try everything, feel what it’s like when you buy a living person as a slave in the Middle Ages. And this person is in your power for the paid time. But if someone really wants to have sex, and not all this, then he would rather go somewhere to a club and just pick up some girls there for the night. No money and no preconditions, just like that. For the sake of shared pleasure precisely from the process of drinking and sex.
So any man can earn enough to pick up a couple of girls in a club for the night with a friend, and then spend time with them. And for this, a man does not need a wife, a family, a home... A wife is simply your closest and most necessary person. Exactly like you to her. Without preconditions and without any fucking cherries on the cake! Without this lies and trading - you give me - I give you.
vvm: ↑23 Nov 2023, 07:35
You could use some knowledge. I wrote a lot, but missed every point. Too lazy to even comment. For example, fat does not produce female hormones; it contains the enzyme aromatase, which aromatizes testosterone to estradiol. And so in everything...
Many incomprehensible terms are not confirmation of correctness. This is just show-off.
I would generally advise everyone to write about something as simply as possible. There is no need to put pressure on the person who will read you because you know a lot of smart words. Because the reaction will be the opposite. As for my words about male plumpness, any doctor will tell you this.
Incomprehensible theremins?) Do you advise me to write more simply? You write about male and female hormones and don’t know their names? Have you heard anything about fat and hormones? I don’t really understand, but are you in a hurry to speak out? Do you like to write long texts, but don’t know that long texts are not read by the average person? And especially, containing a stream of consciousness...
That’s what’s good about the Internet - it gives everyone the opportunity to speak out. But here’s what’s bad about the Internet: it gives everyone the opportunity to speak out
[quote=Vasyanitsa post_id=292608 time=1700754998 user_id=20537] [quote=vvm post_id=292598 time=1700753733 user_id= 18147] You could use some knowledge. I wrote a lot, but missed every point. Too lazy to even comment. For example, fat does not produce female hormones; it contains the enzyme aromatase, which aromatizes testosterone to estradiol. And so in everything... [/quote]Many incomprehensible terms are not confirmation of correctness. This is just show-off. I would generally advise everyone to write about something as simply as possible. There is no need to put pressure on the person who will read you because you know a lot of smart words. Because the reaction will be the opposite. As for my words about male plumpness, any doctor will tell you this. [/quote] Incomprehensible theremins?) Do you advise me to write more simply? You write about male and female hormones and don’t know their names? Have you heard anything about fat and hormones? I don’t really understand, but are you in a hurry to speak out? Do you like to write long texts, but don’t know that long texts are not read by the average person? And especially, containing a stream of consciousness... [quote]That’s what’s good about the Internet - it gives everyone the opportunity to speak out. But here’s what’s bad about the Internet: it gives everyone the opportunity to speak out[/quote]
vvm: ↑23 Nov 2023, 14:39
Incomprehensible theremins?) Do you recommend writing it simpler? You write about male and female hormones and don’t know their names? Have you heard anything about fat and hormones? I don’t really understand, but are you in a hurry to speak out? Do you like to write long texts, but don’t know that long texts are not read by the average person? And especially, containing a stream of consciousness...
Why, in my little mind, I still didn’t understand what you wanted to tell everyone with this?
Well, I understand that you want to seem terribly smart and know some clever and incomprehensible words.
But the topic of a man’s hard-on remained unsolved by you. Again, you were also unable to provide any evidence that excess weight in men does not affect the boner.
And clever words from a medical dictionary are not proof.
Well, in general, it’s already pretty boring - when, instead of saying something to the point, someone starts getting personal.
Is it really impossible to communicate on business without attacking the opponent’s personality?
[quote=vvm post_id=292797 time=1700779195 user_id=18147] Incomprehensible theremins?) Do you recommend writing it simpler? You write about male and female hormones and don’t know their names? Have you heard anything about fat and hormones? I don’t really understand, but are you in a hurry to speak out? Do you like to write long texts, but don’t know that long texts are not read by the average person? And especially, containing a stream of consciousness... [/quote] Why, in my little mind, I still didn’t understand what you wanted to tell everyone with this? Well, I understand that you want to seem terribly smart and know some clever and incomprehensible words. But the topic of a man’s hard-on remained unsolved by you. Again, you were also unable to provide any evidence that excess weight in men does not affect the boner. And clever words from a medical dictionary are not proof.
Well, in general, it’s already pretty boring - when, instead of saying something to the point, someone starts getting personal. Is it really impossible to communicate on business without attacking the opponent’s personality?
Hooligan Carrie: ↑23 Nov 2023, 12:49
Sorry, but this is nonsense. I was given cunnilingus by men whose penis stood perfectly, several times a day. I answer. But they simply loved cunnilingus, just as a separate type of sex
You don’t understand. This is about advertisements of men who are looking for dating in their forties and older. Many clarify - without reciprocity. There are too many of them there
I got a question about how men and women feel about cunnilingus. {not from a dating site)))
[quote="Hooligan Carrie" post_id=292778 time=1700772573 user_id=18654] Sorry, but this is nonsense. I was given cunnilingus by men whose penis stood perfectly, several times a day. I answer. But they simply loved cunnilingus, just as a separate type of sex [/quote] You don’t understand. This is about advertisements of men who are looking for dating in their forties and older. Many clarify - without reciprocity. There are too many of them there
I got a question about how men and women feel about cunnilingus. {not from a dating site)))
Alenka: ↑23 Nov 2023, 08:20
Really?
Or is it different for everyone?
I wonder what men think about this?
I think it’s different for everyone. If I am not physically attracted to a woman, I will not have a relationship with her, either serious or frivolous. For me, sex is not the only thing, but one of the main aspects of a relationship with a woman, and if sex does not suit me, then there will be no relationship.
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uran: ↑23 Nov 2023, 08:26
So for women, sex is really not in the first place.
My ex would not agree with you.
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Alenka: ↑23 Nov 2023, 10:38
It can be different: maybe a blowjob lover is not a cunnilingus lover.
To the point. There are some women who love blowjobs, but not only do they not like cunnilingus, but in principle they do not perceive pussy lickers as men.
[quote=Alenka post_id=292621 time=1700756454 user_id=19239] Really? Or is it different for everyone? I wonder what men think about this? [/quote] I think it’s different for everyone. If I am not physically attracted to a woman, I will not have a relationship with her, either serious or frivolous. For me, sex is not the only thing, but one of the main aspects of a relationship with a woman, and if sex does not suit me, then there will be no relationship.
[size=85][color=green]Sent after 1 minute 57 seconds:[/color] [/size] [quote=uran post_id=292625 time=1700756805 user_id=19741] So for women, sex is really not in the first place. [/quote]My ex would not agree with you.
[size=85][color=green]Sent after 4 minutes 56 seconds:[/color][/size] [quote=Alenka post_id=292702 time=1700764681 user_id =19239] It can be different: maybe a blowjob lover is not a cunnilingus lover. [/quote]To the point. There are some women who love blowjobs, but not only do they not like cunnilingus, but in principle they do not perceive pussy lickers as men.
BeachBunny: ↑23 Nov 2023, 15:05
To the point. There are some women who love blowjobs, but not only do they not like cunnilingus, but in principle they do not perceive pussy lickers as men.
Probably, as always, it’s about the money. Let’s take, for example, a wealthy woman. Either the daughter of some oligarch, or a rich heiress.
After all, women for the most part are more guided by mercantile considerations.
You give me this and I’ll give you the cherry on the cake, to be honest.
But if a woman is a rich heiress, it seems like she doesn’t need anything from a man. She already has everything.
And I think this is exactly the case when you need to ask a woman - what does she need from a man if there is no material interest?
[quote=BeachBunny post_id=292800 time=1700780723 user_id=21036] To the point. There are some women who love blowjobs, but not only do they not like cunnilingus, but in principle they do not perceive pussy lickers as men. [/quote] Probably, as always, it’s about the money. Let’s take, for example, a wealthy woman. Either the daughter of some oligarch, or a rich heiress. After all, women for the most part are more guided by mercantile considerations. You give me this and I’ll give you the cherry on the cake, to be honest. But if a woman is a rich heiress, it seems like she doesn’t need anything from a man. She already has everything.
And I think this is exactly the case when you need to ask a woman - what does she need from a man if there is no material interest?
Vasyanitsa: ↑23 Nov 2023, 15:17
Probably, as always, it’s about the money. Let’s take, for example, a wealthy woman. Either the daughter of some oligarch, or a rich heiress.
After all, women for the most part are more guided by mercantile considerations.
You give me this and I’ll give you the cherry on the cake, to be honest.
But if a woman is a rich heiress, it seems like she doesn’t need anything from a man. She already has everything.
And I think this is exactly the case when you need to ask a woman - this is what she needs from a man if there is no material interest
Even mercantile ladies, if a man has struck them on instinct, fuck without any "trade", but this, as a rule, is about one-time sex or a short-lived stormy romance, and not about long-term relationships .
[quote=Vasyanitsa post_id=292801 time=1700781428 user_id=20537] Probably, as always, it’s about the money. Let’s take, for example, a wealthy woman. Either the daughter of some oligarch, or a rich heiress. After all, women for the most part are more guided by mercantile considerations. You give me this and I’ll give you the cherry on the cake, to be honest. But if a woman is a rich heiress, it seems like she doesn’t need anything from a man. She already has everything.
And I think this is exactly the case when you need to ask a woman - this is what she needs from a man if there is no material interest [/quote ]Even mercantile ladies, if a man has struck them on instinct, fuck without any "trade", but this, as a rule, is about one-time sex or a short-lived stormy romance, and not about long-term relationships .
BeachBunny: ↑23 Nov 2023, 15:25
Even mercantile ladies, if a man has pushed them through instinct, fuck without any “trade,” but this, as a rule, is about one-time sex or a short-lived stormy romance, and not about long-term relationships.
So the whole point is that such a woman does not need a husband at all. Why does she need him? She either already has everything she needs from life, or she can buy it with money. I also think such a woman will have no problems with sex - after all, she has the opportunity to attend all sorts of parties simply because of her status. And accordingly, have a wide circle of acquaintances and friends. And including friends with whom you can sleep. Young and successful.
And now the question is...
Why does an equally successful and rich man need a wife? Children? Offspring? But instead of all this, with a very high probability, in a few years he will receive a divorce with division of property. At one time, about ten years ago, only a lazy person in the press did not describe all the vicissitudes of Potanin’s (Interros) divorce from his wife and the division of all his billions. Of course, yes, someone is protected by a marriage contract, but they say that with a good lawyer...
Well, in general, for ordinary people, sex is bait on a hook. A harmless-looking cherry with a hook in it. And then all that is required of you is that you regularly go to some kind of work and bring in money regularly. And he fed his family for several years until at least two kinder children finished school. And this is about twenty years. And under the guise of children, you will regularly go to work from dark to dark and carry money into the house. To support the woman who caught you by the dick with this cherry on the cake.
Well, then, in twenty years, she may no longer need you. Or maybe sooner if she finds someone richer and better than you.
So I think you need to look not for the cherry on the cake, but for a friend, but of the opposite sex.
Who, by the way, doesn’t bargain with you when to give it to you.
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[quote=BeachBunny post_id=292802 time=1700781943 user_id=21036] Even mercantile ladies, if a man has pushed them through instinct, fuck without any “trade,” but this, as a rule, is about one-time sex or a short-lived stormy romance, and not about long-term relationships. [/quote]So the whole point is that such a woman does not need a husband at all. Why does she need him? She either already has everything she needs from life, or she can buy it with money. I also think such a woman will have no problems with sex - after all, she has the opportunity to attend all sorts of parties simply because of her status. And accordingly, have a wide circle of acquaintances and friends. And including friends with whom you can sleep. Young and successful.
And now the question is... Why does an equally successful and rich man need a wife? Children? Offspring? But instead of all this, with a very high probability, in a few years he will receive a divorce with division of property. At one time, about ten years ago, only a lazy person in the press did not describe all the vicissitudes of Potanin’s (Interros) divorce from his wife and the division of all his billions. Of course, yes, someone is protected by a marriage contract, but they say that with a good lawyer...
Well, in general, for ordinary people, sex is bait on a hook. A harmless-looking cherry with a hook in it. And then all that is required of you is that you regularly go to some kind of work and bring in money regularly. And he fed his family for several years until at least two kinder children finished school. And this is about twenty years. And under the guise of children, you will regularly go to work from dark to dark and carry money into the house. To support the woman who caught you by the dick with this cherry on the cake.
Well, then, in twenty years, she may no longer need you. Or maybe sooner if she finds someone richer and better than you. So I think you need to look not for the cherry on the cake, but for a friend, but of the opposite sex. Who, by the way, doesn’t bargain with you when to give it to you.
Vasyanitsa: ↑23 Nov 2023, 14:55
But the topic of the male hard-on remained unsolved by you. Again, you also could not provide any facts that excess weight in men does not affect the boner.
No one asked me). "Male boner" eventually leaves everyone - both overweight men and men without excess weight. First of all, the reason is the blood vessels. After thirty years of age, the synthesis of nitric oxide in a person begins to decrease, and it follows that the ability of blood vessels to stretch also decreases, which leads not only to a decrease in potency, but also to atherosclerosis and hypertension. An overweight man often has elevated sugar levels, which leads to the destruction of blood vessels.
As for the effect of excess weight on hormonal balance - yes, fat converts the male hormone into a female one, to some extent.
From -libido and potency may decrease as a result.
Testosterone is here as a signal molecule.
But it’s different for everyone. Many men with bellies do not lose either desire or potency for some time.
[quote=Vasyanitsa post_id=292798 time=1700780113 user_id=20537] But the topic of the male hard-on remained unsolved by you. Again, you also could not provide any facts that excess weight in men does not affect the boner. [/quote] No one asked me). "Male boner" eventually leaves everyone - both overweight men and men without excess weight. First of all, the reason is the blood vessels. After thirty years of age, the synthesis of nitric oxide in a person begins to decrease, and it follows that the ability of blood vessels to stretch also decreases, which leads not only to a decrease in potency, but also to atherosclerosis and hypertension. An overweight man often has elevated sugar levels, which leads to the destruction of blood vessels. As for the effect of excess weight on hormonal balance - yes, fat converts the male hormone into a female one, to some extent. From -libido and potency may decrease as a result. Testosterone is here as a signal molecule. But it’s different for everyone. Many men with bellies do not lose either desire or potency for some time.
vvm: ↑23 Nov 2023, 17:45
Nobody asked me). "Male boner" eventually leaves everyone - both overweight men and men without excess weight. First of all, the reason is the blood vessels. After thirty years of age, the synthesis of nitric oxide in a person begins to decrease, and it follows that the ability of blood vessels to stretch also decreases, which leads not only to a decrease in potency, but also to atherosclerosis and hypertension. An overweight man often has elevated sugar levels, which leads to the destruction of blood vessels.
As for the effect of excess weight on hormonal balance - yes, fat converts the male hormone into a female one, to some extent.
From -libido and potency may decrease as a result.
Testosterone is here as a signal molecule.
But it’s different for everyone. Many men with bellies do not lose either desire or potency for some time.
Thank you.
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vvm: ↑
As for the effect of excess weight on hormonal balance - yes, fat converts the male hormone into female, to some extent.
Because of this, libido and potency may decrease.
So that’s what I was actually talking about.
But there are other additional factors for men with bellies. Let’s take an average man - one meter and seventy meters tall. Weight - 75kg. But this is weight without belly and without excess weight. With a belly and excess weight, this same guy will already weigh close to ninety. Or even under a hundred kg.
Now imagine that you are an ordinary man who weighs 75 kg. But let’s say you’re overheated to 95. That’s an extra 20 kilograms! Four five-liter cans of water. Now imagine that these four canisters are tied to your body. One on the chest, one on the back. And one for each leg. And you walk around with these canisters all day, go to work with them, work with them, go back from work with them.
By the end of the day you are exhausted from these canisters. And there is no way to remove them, they are with you all the time. You are sweating a lot. Yes, the body will build up additional muscles due to this excess weight to accommodate these extra pounds. But you will also become bigger because of these extra muscles to maintain their presence. And if you eat more, you will gain more weight. This is how it all happens.
And at the end of the day you are exhausted, as if after a hard workout. And you still have to fuck your wife. Do you want sex in such a situation, even if everything is fine with your libido and desire?
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[quote=vvm post_id=292806 time=1700790332 user_id=18147] Nobody asked me). "Male boner" eventually leaves everyone - both overweight men and men without excess weight. First of all, the reason is the blood vessels. After thirty years of age, the synthesis of nitric oxide in a person begins to decrease, and it follows that the ability of blood vessels to stretch also decreases, which leads not only to a decrease in potency, but also to atherosclerosis and hypertension. An overweight man often has elevated sugar levels, which leads to the destruction of blood vessels. As for the effect of excess weight on hormonal balance - yes, fat converts the male hormone into a female one, to some extent. From -libido and potency may decrease as a result. Testosterone is here as a signal molecule. But it’s different for everyone. Many men with bellies do not lose either desire or potency for some time. [/quote] Thank you.
[size=85][color=green]Sent after 12 minutes 38 seconds:[/color][/size] [quote=vvm post_id=292806 time=1700790332 user_id=18147] As for the effect of excess weight on hormonal balance - yes, fat converts the male hormone into female, to some extent. Because of this, libido and potency may decrease. [/quote] So that’s what I was actually talking about. But there are other additional factors for men with bellies. Let’s take an average man - one meter and seventy meters tall. Weight - 75kg. But this is weight without belly and without excess weight. With a belly and excess weight, this same guy will already weigh close to ninety. Or even under a hundred kg.
Now imagine that you are an ordinary man who weighs 75 kg. But let’s say you’re overheated to 95. That’s an extra 20 kilograms! Four five-liter cans of water. Now imagine that these four canisters are tied to your body. One on the chest, one on the back. And one for each leg. And you walk around with these canisters all day, go to work with them, work with them, go back from work with them.
By the end of the day you are exhausted from these canisters. And there is no way to remove them, they are with you all the time. You are sweating a lot. Yes, the body will build up additional muscles due to this excess weight to accommodate these extra pounds. But you will also become bigger because of these extra muscles to maintain their presence. And if you eat more, you will gain more weight. This is how it all happens. And at the end of the day you are exhausted, as if after a hard workout. And you still have to fuck your wife. Do you want sex in such a situation, even if everything is fine with your libido and desire?
Vasyanitsa: ↑23 Nov 2023, 18:59
And at the end of the day you are exhausted, as if after a hard workout. And you still have to fuck your wife. Do you want sex in such a situation, even if everything is fine with your libido and desire?
It will depend on the daily load and free time...well, from natural data. Loss of potency and libido is not the worst thing an overweight person experiences. High blood pressure, diabetes, sore knees, atherosclerosis leading to strokes and heart attacks.
No one grows a belly of their own free will. Abdominal obesity is the most difficult to lose.
[quote=Vasyanitsa post_id=292812 time=1700794773 user_id=20537] And at the end of the day you are exhausted, as if after a hard workout. And you still have to fuck your wife. Do you want sex in such a situation, even if everything is fine with your libido and desire? [/quote] It will depend on the daily load and free time...well, from natural data. Loss of potency and libido is not the worst thing an overweight person experiences. High blood pressure, diabetes, sore knees, atherosclerosis leading to strokes and heart attacks. No one grows a belly of their own free will. Abdominal obesity is the most difficult to lose.
vvm: ↑23 Nov 2023, 20:45
It will depend on the daily load and free time...well, and on natural data. Loss of potency and libido is not the worst thing an overweight person experiences. High blood pressure, diabetes, bad knees, atherosclerosis leading to strokes and heart attacks.
No one grows a belly of their own free will. Abdominal obesity is the most difficult thing to lose.
Are you a doctor, or the husband of a doctor?
vvm: ↑23 Nov 2023, 20:45
No one grows a belly of their own free will. Abdominal obesity is the most difficult thing to lose.
No! In fact, all this is put together quite successfully and there is nothing complicated here.
Everything is as simple as mooing. But you just need to eat no more than 1200 kilocalories every day.
And this is enough to lose any excess weight.
And all this has long been known to both athletes and their trainers, and sports doctors, and doctors who deal with plastic surgery.
Because, strange as it may seem, everything really works very simply - you just need to consume no more calories than you spend.
And about 1200 you are just you spend on the work of internal organs. And you just need to eat no more than this amount of calories every day.
And you need to endure and not eat more than 1200 kilocalories for two weeks. For some it will be all three. But no more.
These three weeks the body will somehow try to fight this in the hope that it is temporary. And perhaps nothing will happen to the weight.
But the general condition of the body may worsen. Something like withdrawal.
But if you endure it and don’t break down and don’t binge on buns or any other goodies, then the body will understand that this is serious and that something needs to be done about all this.
And he will begin to get rid of the excess. And first of all, it is not fat that will go under the knife, but muscle. Because fat, when burned, produces more calories. And fat is more valuable to the body than muscle. And in order not to burn muscle instead of fat, the body needs physical activity. If you just go to work and carry refrigerators to the fifth floor, then there will be little benefit from this.
You need a load of a different nature. This is roughly what jocks do in rocking chairs. I mean in paid gyms.
You need a small set of exercises for the main muscles of the body. The set is small, about forty minutes.
Let’s say for biceps, five approaches ten times to a curved barbell weighing 20 kilograms. The break between approaches is short - no more than a minute. Otherwise, the training will take several hours.
For starters, 20 kg may even be a lot. Some may find this weight funny. But initially, the first approach will be easy, and the fifth will probably be a failure. In order not to pull the muscles or tendons, if failure occurs, it is better to stop the approach and consider it done. Rest for a minute and do the next approach.
And thus several more similar exercises. With stacked dumbbells or a regular barbell. The weights are small. Dumbbells no more than eight kilograms each. This will also seem funny, but by the fifth approach it will no longer be funny at all.
And all these physical exercises must be done, otherwise if you eat no more than 1200 kilocalories, you will not burn belly fat, but but its own muscles.
And this is where the dog rummaged.
In fact, there is a double load on willpower - not only do you need not to eat treats and limit yourself in food. In addition to this, exercise regularly. After which the muscles will initially become very sore. You will have to do two days of classes, then one day of rest, then again two days of classes.
But at first, after the first workout, your muscles will ache wildly. In order not to rip anything off and not to injure yourself, you can exercise for the first week every other day - a day of classes, a day of rest.
After a week, the muscle pain will go away and it will be easier and you can switch to a two-day training regime - one day of rest.
If you continue not to eat more than 1200 kilocalories and engage in physical activity and endure for two or three weeks, then the weight will go down. For some it is fast, for others it is slower. But it will definitely work. And it will definitely reach normal. The belly will also disappear.
Despite the fact that you can eat absolutely whatever you want. At least wash down lard with cola. But you have to count the calories of what you eat. And do not eat more than 1200 kilocalories per day.
By the way, you will be unpleasantly surprised if you start counting the calories YOU eat. It turns out that two sandwiches with sausage and cheese, and coffee with milk and sugar can easily add up to more than 600 kilocalories. Yes, yes!!!
I ate two coffee sandwiches at breakfast, and thus used half of my daily ration. The whole point is that we eat uncontrollably and don’t even imagine how many calories we cram into ourselves per day.
But that’s not all. There are two more things.
The first is metabolism. He needs to be rocked. So that the body begins to actively digest food. So that it does not become sour in the stomach for two days. And so that the body begins to digest food more actively. I won’t describe how to do this right now. Just for the weight to begin to go away, you need to pump up this metabolism.
The second is to simply exclude some things from your diet for good. Well, at least for those months that you decided to lose weight.
You MUST give up sugar in its pure form. That is, sugar no longer exists for you. You can use honey, but count the calories. But granulated sugar is prohibited.
Then you should exclude white bread from your diet. And all its types - buns, pies, pastries, cakes, cookies. You can only eat black bread.
For the first time, you can limit yourself to these prohibitions and everything else can be eaten without restrictions. But only on the condition that you have to count all the food you eat.
And don’t eat more than 1200 kilocalories per day. And your belly will disappear as if it never existed.
And you will have to change your entire wardrobe - the news is both good and bad.
But to do all this you need a lot of willpower. And this is actually even more difficult than quitting smoking.
Because the dependence on food is stronger than on smoking. And starting to exercise regularly and not quitting after a couple of weeks is even more difficult.
In general, if you face the truth, all overweight people are essentially drug addicts.
And for them, food is the same thing as some kind of drug. And in everything else everything is exactly the same.
That is, getting off this drug is very, very difficult. Almost impossible. And the most effective way is to handcuff a person to a radiator and not let him near the refrigerator for a month. And the withdrawal symptoms will be terrible. Moreover, there is no dependence on the status of a person and his social position in society. This could be a minister or a general or anyone in general.
But in all cases there is always one and only way to lose weight - to eat no more than the so-called basic caloric expenditure of the human body.
In smart books they write that it is different for men and women. They say for women it is 1200, and for men 1800.
But this is all a deception of oneself. To eat more than you should.
In fact, 1200 doesn’t even matter! Don’t fuck yourself up at the beginning of this path!
P.S.
I agree, a lot text. And it took a lot of time.
But I am writing all this solely out of a desire to help people who have big problems with this.
To somehow support and help.
If at least one a person will take advantage of this advice and be able to find the courage to endure all this, then all this was not written in vain.
Well, the fact that this is almost the truth in the first instance, you can take my word for it - it works!
Checked! No mines!
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[quote=vvm post_id=292852 time=1700801151 user_id=18147] It will depend on the daily load and free time...well, and on natural data. Loss of potency and libido is not the worst thing an overweight person experiences. High blood pressure, diabetes, bad knees, atherosclerosis leading to strokes and heart attacks. No one grows a belly of their own free will. Abdominal obesity is the most difficult thing to lose. [/quote] Are you a doctor, or the husband of a doctor? :-) [quote=vvm post_id=292852 time=1700801151 user_id=18147] No one grows a belly of their own free will. Abdominal obesity is the most difficult thing to lose. [/quote] No! In fact, all this is put together quite successfully and there is nothing complicated here. Everything is as simple as mooing. But you just need to eat no more than 1200 kilocalories every day. And this is enough to lose any excess weight.
And all this has long been known to both athletes and their trainers, and sports doctors, and doctors who deal with plastic surgery. Because, strange as it may seem, everything really works very simply - you just need to consume no more calories than you spend. And about 1200 you are just you spend on the work of internal organs. And you just need to eat no more than this amount of calories every day.
And you need to endure and not eat more than 1200 kilocalories for two weeks. For some it will be all three. But no more. These three weeks the body will somehow try to fight this in the hope that it is temporary. And perhaps nothing will happen to the weight. But the general condition of the body may worsen. Something like withdrawal.
But if you endure it and don’t break down and don’t binge on buns or any other goodies, then the body will understand that this is serious and that something needs to be done about all this. And he will begin to get rid of the excess. And first of all, it is not fat that will go under the knife, but muscle. Because fat, when burned, produces more calories. And fat is more valuable to the body than muscle. And in order not to burn muscle instead of fat, the body needs physical activity. If you just go to work and carry refrigerators to the fifth floor, then there will be little benefit from this.
You need a load of a different nature. This is roughly what jocks do in rocking chairs. I mean in paid gyms. You need a small set of exercises for the main muscles of the body. The set is small, about forty minutes. Let’s say for biceps, five approaches ten times to a curved barbell weighing 20 kilograms. The break between approaches is short - no more than a minute. Otherwise, the training will take several hours.
For starters, 20 kg may even be a lot. Some may find this weight funny. But initially, the first approach will be easy, and the fifth will probably be a failure. In order not to pull the muscles or tendons, if failure occurs, it is better to stop the approach and consider it done. Rest for a minute and do the next approach. And thus several more similar exercises. With stacked dumbbells or a regular barbell. The weights are small. Dumbbells no more than eight kilograms each. This will also seem funny, but by the fifth approach it will no longer be funny at all.
And all these physical exercises must be done, otherwise if you eat no more than 1200 kilocalories, you will not burn belly fat, but but its own muscles. And this is where the dog rummaged. In fact, there is a double load on willpower - not only do you need not to eat treats and limit yourself in food. In addition to this, exercise regularly. After which the muscles will initially become very sore. You will have to do two days of classes, then one day of rest, then again two days of classes. But at first, after the first workout, your muscles will ache wildly. In order not to rip anything off and not to injure yourself, you can exercise for the first week every other day - a day of classes, a day of rest.
After a week, the muscle pain will go away and it will be easier and you can switch to a two-day training regime - one day of rest. If you continue not to eat more than 1200 kilocalories and engage in physical activity and endure for two or three weeks, then the weight will go down. For some it is fast, for others it is slower. But it will definitely work. And it will definitely reach normal. The belly will also disappear. Despite the fact that you can eat absolutely whatever you want. At least wash down lard with cola. But you have to count the calories of what you eat. And do not eat more than 1200 kilocalories per day.
By the way, you will be unpleasantly surprised if you start counting the calories YOU eat. It turns out that two sandwiches with sausage and cheese, and coffee with milk and sugar can easily add up to more than 600 kilocalories. Yes, yes!!! I ate two coffee sandwiches at breakfast, and thus used half of my daily ration. The whole point is that we eat uncontrollably and don’t even imagine how many calories we cram into ourselves per day.
But that’s not all. There are two more things. The first is metabolism. He needs to be rocked. So that the body begins to actively digest food. So that it does not become sour in the stomach for two days. And so that the body begins to digest food more actively. I won’t describe how to do this right now. Just for the weight to begin to go away, you need to pump up this metabolism.
The second is to simply exclude some things from your diet for good. Well, at least for those months that you decided to lose weight. You MUST give up sugar in its pure form. That is, sugar no longer exists for you. You can use honey, but count the calories. But granulated sugar is prohibited. Then you should exclude white bread from your diet. And all its types - buns, pies, pastries, cakes, cookies. You can only eat black bread.
For the first time, you can limit yourself to these prohibitions and everything else can be eaten without restrictions. But only on the condition that you have to count all the food you eat. And don’t eat more than 1200 kilocalories per day. And your belly will disappear as if it never existed. And you will have to change your entire wardrobe - the news is both good and bad. :-)
But to do all this you need a lot of willpower. And this is actually even more difficult than quitting smoking. Because the dependence on food is stronger than on smoking. And starting to exercise regularly and not quitting after a couple of weeks is even more difficult. In general, if you face the truth, all overweight people are essentially drug addicts. And for them, food is the same thing as some kind of drug. And in everything else everything is exactly the same.
That is, getting off this drug is very, very difficult. Almost impossible. And the most effective way is to handcuff a person to a radiator and not let him near the refrigerator for a month. And the withdrawal symptoms will be terrible. Moreover, there is no dependence on the status of a person and his social position in society. This could be a minister or a general or anyone in general.
But in all cases there is always one and only way to lose weight - to eat no more than the so-called basic caloric expenditure of the human body. In smart books they write that it is different for men and women. They say for women it is 1200, and for men 1800. But this is all a deception of oneself. To eat more than you should. In fact, 1200 doesn’t even matter! Don’t fuck yourself up at the beginning of this path! :-)
P.S. I agree, a lot text. And it took a lot of time. But I am writing all this solely out of a desire to help people who have big problems with this. To somehow support and help. If at least one a person will take advantage of this advice and be able to find the courage to endure all this, then all this was not written in vain. Well, the fact that this is almost the truth in the first instance, you can take my word for it - it works! Checked! No mines! :-)
Vasyanitsa: ↑23 Nov 2023, 21:36
Are you a doctor, or the husband of a doctor?
Doctors treat people. And we are talking about biology, physiology. I’m 53 years old, this is the time when age-related problems attack you. And as my good friend, who worked as a resuscitator for 20 years, said, no one will understand your health problems better than you yourself. A year and a half ago he suffered a heart attack, followed by a stroke. Now he is disabled, his speech centers have suffered. He was 58.
Vlasyanitsa: ↑23 Nov 2023, 21:36
No! In fact, all this is put together quite successfully and there is nothing complicated here.
Everything is as simple as mooing. But you just need to eat no more than 1200 kilocalories every day
The main thing is not the dietary restriction itself, but how to arrange your nutrition in such a way that you don’t feel hungry when you are in a calorie deficit? Everything else "bows" was not worth describing.
If abdominal fat in men goes away as a result of fasting, it seems that it will be the last thing, when there is skin and bones. As far as I know, there are very few capillaries there. This is the reason for the difficulty of burning.
An acquaintance lost weight, but his stomach remained.
[quote=Vasyanitsa post_id=292865 time=1700804171 user_id=20537] Are you a doctor, or the husband of a doctor? [/quote] Doctors treat people. And we are talking about biology, physiology. I’m 53 years old, this is the time when age-related problems attack you. And as my good friend, who worked as a resuscitator for 20 years, said, no one will understand your health problems better than you yourself. A year and a half ago he suffered a heart attack, followed by a stroke. Now he is disabled, his speech centers have suffered. He was 58. [quote=Vlasyanitsa post_id=292865 time=1700804171 user_id=20537] No! In fact, all this is put together quite successfully and there is nothing complicated here. Everything is as simple as mooing. But you just need to eat no more than 1200 kilocalories every day [/quote] The main thing is not the dietary restriction itself, but how to arrange your nutrition in such a way that you don’t feel hungry when you are in a calorie deficit? Everything else "bows" was not worth describing. If abdominal fat in men goes away as a result of fasting, it seems that it will be the last thing, when there is skin and bones. As far as I know, there are very few capillaries there. This is the reason for the difficulty of burning. An acquaintance lost weight, but his stomach remained.
[quote="◊_NeBo[_Na_] LaDoNi_◊" post_id=292658 time=1700759981 user_id=5795] you would have stayed [/quote]why stay? fucked and ran away until the next fuck
[quote=Watchman post_id=292905 time=1700809961 user_id=20514] [quote="◊ _NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊" post_id=292658 time=1700759981 user_id=5795] you would have stayed [/quote]why stay? fucked and ran away until the next fuck [/quote]to each his own
[quote=Alenka post_id=292702 time=1700764681 user_id=19239] Many men will not go to the left, having a respectful, faithful, devoted, loving woman [/quote]up to this point there was popular science fiction, and if she also knows how to cook, then absolutely fantasy about the elves
[size=85][color=green]Sent after 11 minutes 47 seconds:[/color][/size] [quote="◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_ ◊" post_id=292906 time=1700810046 user_id=5795] to each his own [/quote]so they say it was written on the gates of "Buchenwald"
Hooligan Carrie: ↑23 Nov 2023, 12:49
Sorry, but this is nonsense. I was given cunnilingus by men whose penis stood perfectly, several times a day. I answer. But they simply loved cunnilingus, just as a separate type of sex
You don’t understand. This is about advertisements of men who are looking for dating in their forties and older. Many clarify - without reciprocity. There are too many of them there
I got a question about how men and women feel about cunnilingus. {not from a dating site)))
Что это за опрос? Откуда? Среди кого? Не очень убедительно, извини.
Тут в канале про косметику опрос проводили среди подписчиц: стоит ли тратиться на косметику? Большинство подписчиц канала про косметику ответили, что стоит тратить деньги на косметику. ))))
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[quote=vvm post_id=292799 time=1700780148 user_id=18147] [quote="Hooligan Carrie" post_id= 292778 time=1700772573 user_id=18654] Sorry, but this is nonsense. I was given cunnilingus by men whose penis stood perfectly, several times a day. I answer. But they simply loved cunnilingus, just as a separate type of sex [/quote] You don’t understand. This is about advertisements of men who are looking for dating in their forties and older. Many clarify - without reciprocity. There are too many of them there
I got a question about how men and women feel about cunnilingus. {not from a dating site)))
[url=https://postimg.cc/QH34B6y6] [img]https://i.postimg.cc/3JyPcVCH/IMG-20231124-054931.jpg[/img][/url] [/quote] Что это за опрос? Откуда? Среди кого? Не очень убедительно, извини. Тут в канале про косметику опрос проводили среди подписчиц: стоит ли тратиться на косметику? Большинство подписчиц канала про косметику ответили, что стоит тратить деньги на косметику. ))))
Hooligan Carrie: ↑24 Nov 2023, 00:48
What kind of survey is this? Where? Among whom? Not very convincing, sorry
Yes, I just came across a survey. Psychologists’ website. I’ll take a look. https://favoritca.com/
I did not set out to convince anyone. I have a neutral attitude towards cunnilingus. But it is a fact that on dating sites for men over 40, this predilection becomes more dominant with increasing age. I’m more concerned that women are left without sex with their peers and that men don’t even try to do anything.
There are quite a few who are trying to at least find cunnilingus (there is still attraction), and some are trying to seek sexual satisfaction in the role of a woman.
[quote="Hooligan Carrie" post_id=292960 time=1700815708 user_id=18654] What kind of survey is this? Where? Among whom? Not very convincing, sorry [/quote] Yes, I just came across a survey. Psychologists’ website. I’ll take a look. https://favoritca.com/ I did not set out to convince anyone. I have a neutral attitude towards cunnilingus. But it is a fact that on dating sites for men over 40, this predilection becomes more dominant with increasing age. I’m more concerned that women are left without sex with their peers and that men don’t even try to do anything. There are quite a few who are trying to at least find cunnilingus (there is still attraction), and some are trying to seek sexual satisfaction in the role of a woman.
vvm: ↑23 Nov 2023, 22:18
An acquaintance lost weight, but his stomach remained.
Did you stand over him with a candle while he was losing weight? As I say, overweight people are drug addicts. They are capable of lying to themselves. They are able to tell everyone that they are losing weight, but in fact they are eating almost under the covers. Or when no one is there, they go and eat something tasty from the refrigerator.
I’m telling you, the most effective way is to handcuff him to the radiator. It works one hundred percent.
And then 1200 kilocalories is not fasting. This is a completely normal amount of food that the body requires for its needs.
It’s just that for an overweight person, at some stage of his life, food acquires the quality of pleasure.
Some people enjoy music, some enjoy drawing, some either from sex or something else.
And overweight people enjoy delicious food. And they get hooked on it.
And they eat and eat like crazy. And then they can’t stop. It’s like smoking.
The need for pleasure. But from food.
[quote=vvm post_id=292882 time=1700806736 user_id=18147] An acquaintance lost weight, but his stomach remained. [/quote] Did you stand over him with a candle while he was losing weight? As I say, overweight people are drug addicts. They are capable of lying to themselves. They are able to tell everyone that they are losing weight, but in fact they are eating almost under the covers. Or when no one is there, they go and eat something tasty from the refrigerator. I’m telling you, the most effective way is to handcuff him to the radiator. It works one hundred percent.
And then 1200 kilocalories is not fasting. This is a completely normal amount of food that the body requires for its needs. It’s just that for an overweight person, at some stage of his life, food acquires the quality of pleasure. Some people enjoy music, some enjoy drawing, some either from sex or something else.
And overweight people enjoy delicious food. And they get hooked on it. And they eat and eat like crazy. And then they can’t stop. It’s like smoking. The need for pleasure. But from food.
Some kind of fantasy! Let’s start for health... A woman or a man should try to satisfy their partners. I don’t know about the ladies, but I have a lot of examples when a loving, faithful and devoted wife goes to the left because her man does not satisfy her. Otherwise, with whom would men cheat on their wives? I won’t even talk about men. It’s nice for someone to think that since I cook borscht well, I don’t have to give my husband a blow job. He won’t go outside for a blowjob. I am faithful and loving. Continue to think this way, I won’t convince anyone
. This also applies to men. I’m talking about adherents of pussy-to-pussy, and the rest are fagots.
Overweight people care deeply what skinny people and jocks think about them. They live a normal life, including a full sex life. I generally don’t like skinny people, and at one time, when I was still outrageously thin, I had a relationship with a very plump woman and it was very cool. It’s a shame there was a big age difference.
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Some kind of fantasy! Let’s start for health... A woman or a man should try to satisfy their partners. I don’t know about the ladies, but I have a lot of examples when a loving, faithful and devoted wife goes to the left because her man does not satisfy her. Otherwise, with whom would men cheat on their wives? I won’t even talk about men. It’s nice for someone to think that since I cook borscht well, I don’t have to give my husband a blow job. He won’t go outside for a blowjob. I am faithful and loving. Continue to think this way, I won’t convince anyone . This also applies to men. I’m talking about adherents of pussy-to-pussy, and the rest are fagots. Overweight people care deeply what skinny people and jocks think about them. They live a normal life, including a full sex life. I generally don’t like skinny people, and at one time, when I was still outrageously thin, I had a relationship with a very plump woman and it was very cool. It’s a shame there was a big age difference.
vvm: ↑23 Nov 2023, 22:18
The main thing is not the dietary restriction itself, but how to arrange nutrition in such a way that if you are in a calorie deficit you do not experience hunger? Everything else was "bows" and wasn’t worth painting.
It was really worth it. Because what I described is precisely the most important thing. And who said that there shouldn’t be a feeling of hunger?
Is this a completely normal feeling? Why do you always and constantly have to overeat to capacity?
And in my text I described exactly the most difficult moments of losing excess weight. There is no need to worry about any capillaries there. That you will lose weight but your belly will remain. In general, you don’t even need to weigh yourself during the process. But you just need to stupidly not eat and stupidly engage in feasible physical exercises.
And this is precisely the whole difficulty of getting rid of excess weight. The fact is that you need to have crazy willpower to overcome yourself and, without any unnecessary thoughts and motivations, just stupidly not eat more than 1200 and just stupidly do physical exercise every day.
And not even think about whether there will be a result or not. But it’s just stupid to do this for a week, two, a month, two months.
And this is precisely the complexity of this process. So as not to break down.
[quote=vvm post_id=292882 time=1700806736 user_id=18147] The main thing is not the dietary restriction itself, but how to arrange nutrition in such a way that if you are in a calorie deficit you do not experience hunger? Everything else was "bows" and wasn’t worth painting. [/quote] It was really worth it. Because what I described is precisely the most important thing. And who said that there shouldn’t be a feeling of hunger? Is this a completely normal feeling? Why do you always and constantly have to overeat to capacity?
And in my text I described exactly the most difficult moments of losing excess weight. There is no need to worry about any capillaries there. That you will lose weight but your belly will remain. In general, you don’t even need to weigh yourself during the process. But you just need to stupidly not eat and stupidly engage in feasible physical exercises. And this is precisely the whole difficulty of getting rid of excess weight. The fact is that you need to have crazy willpower to overcome yourself and, without any unnecessary thoughts and motivations, just stupidly not eat more than 1200 and just stupidly do physical exercise every day.
And not even think about whether there will be a result or not. But it’s just stupid to do this for a week, two, a month, two months. And this is precisely the complexity of this process. So as not to break down.
[quote=Ksenofont post_id=293156 time=1700823664 user_id=17996] but I have a lot of examples when a loving, faithful and devoted wife goes to the left [/quote]that means she is not so loving and faithful, and I hope that the wife not for long, kick the walking bitch out and spit on her back.
[size=85][color=green]Sent after 1 minute 2 seconds:[/color][/size] [quote=Ksenofont post_id=293156 time= 1700823664 user_id=17996] It was a pity there was a big age difference. [/quote]She was over 80?
[quote=LenychSauron post_id=291196 time=1700508545 user_id=21933] I didn’t drag it. Their initiative has always been [/quote]And you are glad, you immediately spread your legs.
Ksenofont: ↑24 Nov 2023, 03:01
For fat people it is deeply purple what skinny people and jocks think about them.
Not so purple. Here you put on two sweaters and tie a five-liter canister of ordinary water on your chest, on your back and on both legs.
And live with it all day. You constantly sweat, and in a stream. The folds of skin on your arms, legs and groin are chafing. You are constantly hungry.
Any steps are a feat. Getting somewhere on foot is also a feat.
And these are only external factors. But there is also an organism that has a hard time maintaining a bunch of this fat. All these very overweight people have a whole bunch of problems even by the age of forty. Well, okay, she’s still a fat twenty-year-old girl. It seems like it’s still tolerable. But by thirty, she will already have problems typical of fifty-year-olds.
[quote=Ksenofont post_id=293156 time=1700823664 user_id=17996] For fat people it is deeply purple what skinny people and jocks think about them. [/quote] Not so purple. Here you put on two sweaters and tie a five-liter canister of ordinary water on your chest, on your back and on both legs. And live with it all day. You constantly sweat, and in a stream. The folds of skin on your arms, legs and groin are chafing. You are constantly hungry. Any steps are a feat. Getting somewhere on foot is also a feat.
And these are only external factors. But there is also an organism that has a hard time maintaining a bunch of this fat. All these very overweight people have a whole bunch of problems even by the age of forty. Well, okay, she’s still a fat twenty-year-old girl. It seems like it’s still tolerable. But by thirty, she will already have problems typical of fifty-year-olds.
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LenychSauron: ↑20 Nov 2023, 10:58
I have been divorced for quite some time, I have a 4-year-old son. I tried in vain to find the man. First, the father of a boy from my son’s group met me in kindergarten. He courted me beautifully, we actively met for about 10 days, then he had some business to do, and communication came to naught. Then my best friend introduced me to a guy. We dated for two months, lived together, everything was great, then he said that we should break up. I think okay, I’ll register on a dating site. I met another man, he also courted me beautifully, the first date was in a restaurant in Moscow City, the second at the Eiffel Tower, he was better in bed than all my exes. When he came to me and found out that I had a son, he said goodbye. Then I met another one. She brought him home, introduced him to his son, and he gave him expensive Lego. During sex he swore his love to me. The next day after morning sex he disappeared. This is why men are so anxious??? At first they look after beautifully, but after sex or a couple of months of relationship, they merge badly.
Yes, it seems to me that the answer is simple. No one likes raising and living with someone else’s child, neither men nor women. So yes, they are running. The joy of a relationship with you does not yet outweigh the potential hemorrhoids. But apparently it’s a matter of finding your person.
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[quote=LenychSauron post_id=291184 time=1700506708 user_id=21933] I have been divorced for quite some time, I have a 4-year-old son. I tried in vain to find the man. First, the father of a boy from my son’s group met me in kindergarten. He courted me beautifully, we actively met for about 10 days, then he had some business to do, and communication came to naught. Then my best friend introduced me to a guy. We dated for two months, lived together, everything was great, then he said that we should break up. I think okay, I’ll register on a dating site. I met another man, he also courted me beautifully, the first date was in a restaurant in Moscow City, the second at the Eiffel Tower, he was better in bed than all my exes. When he came to me and found out that I had a son, he said goodbye. Then I met another one. She brought him home, introduced him to his son, and he gave him expensive Lego. During sex he swore his love to me. The next day after morning sex he disappeared. This is why men are so anxious??? At first they look after beautifully, but after sex or a couple of months of relationship, they merge badly. [/quote] Yes, it seems to me that the answer is simple. No one likes raising and living with someone else’s child, neither men nor women. So yes, they are running. The joy of a relationship with you does not yet outweigh the potential hemorrhoids. But apparently it’s a matter of finding your person.
Vasyanitsa: ↑24 Nov 2023, 02:41
You stood there with a candle over him while he was losing weight?
You are writing nonsense. He weighed a hundred, lost weight to 85. I saw him. The belly looks ugly after losing weight.
Hair shirt: ↑24 Nov 2023, 03:19
And who said that there should be no feeling of hunger?
Yes, everyone talks about this, who is skilled in this matter , otherwise it’s all empty.
I myself accidentally found a basic food, after which I feel full, and besides fiber there is almost nothing there. I decided to throw off the extra money, even though I didn’t have much. I tried to cut back before, but it didn’t work, my sugar drops or something, I feel weak after three or four hours. And then, in two months without hunger and weakness, it dropped from 93 to 85 and I’m already thinking how to stop it, otherwise it’s already 84. But I didn’t have a belly. I still can’t really understand how much weight should be for a height of 187?
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Andrew495: ↑24 Nov 2023, 05:23
Yes, it seems to me that the answer is simple. No one likes raising and living with someone else’s child, neither men nor women.
Not everyone, I, for example, love children and it makes no difference whether they are mine or not. And I know a lot of the same people.
[quote=Vasyanitsa post_id=293126 time=1700822509 user_id=20537] You stood there with a candle over him while he was losing weight? [/quote] You are writing nonsense. He weighed a hundred, lost weight to 85. I saw him. The belly looks ugly after losing weight. [quote=Hair shirt post_id=293184 time =1700824744 user_id=20537] And who said that there should be no feeling of hunger? [/quote] Yes, everyone talks about this, who is skilled in this matter , otherwise it’s all empty. I myself accidentally found a basic food, after which I feel full, and besides fiber there is almost nothing there. I decided to throw off the extra money, even though I didn’t have much. I tried to cut back before, but it didn’t work, my sugar drops or something, I feel weak after three or four hours. And then, in two months without hunger and weakness, it dropped from 93 to 85 and I’m already thinking how to stop it, otherwise it’s already 84. But I didn’t have a belly. I still can’t really understand how much weight should be for a height of 187?
[size=85][color=green]Sent after 3 minutes 25 seconds:[/color][/size] [quote=Andrew495 post_id=293322 time=1700832237 user_id=21260] Yes, it seems to me that the answer is simple. No one likes raising and living with someone else’s child, neither men nor women. [/quote] Not everyone, I, for example, love children and it makes no difference whether they are mine or not. And I know a lot of the same people.
[quote=vvm post_id=293324 time=1700832574 user_id=18147] I still can’t really understand how much weight should be with a height of 187? [/quote] If you calculate by body mass index, your ideal weight range is 65 - 87 kg.
[quote=Alenka post_id=293346 time=1700834023 user_id=19239] If you calculate by body mass index, your ideal weight range is 65 - 87 kg [/quote] I saw this. 65-75 kg is too much for me.
Ksenofont: ↑24 Nov 2023, 03:01
For fat people it is deeply purple what skinny people and jocks think about them.
Not so purple. Here you put on two sweaters and tie a five-liter canister of ordinary water on your chest, on your back and on both legs.
And live with it all day. You constantly sweat, and in a stream. The folds of skin on your arms, legs and groin are chafing. You are constantly hungry.
Any steps are a feat. Getting somewhere on foot is also a feat.
And these are only external factors. But there is also an organism that has a hard time maintaining a bunch of this fat. All these very overweight people have a whole bunch of problems even by the age of forty. Well, okay, she’s still a fat twenty-year-old girl. It seems like it’s still tolerable. But by thirty, she will already have problems typical of fifty-year-olds.
I promised myself not to contact you anymore. But I can not. Where do you get such extensive knowledge about the lives of fat people? Where did you highlight them? Or maybe you are like that yourself?
Everything you wrote is the thoughts of jocks and thin women. And only because there is nothing else they can do to emphasize their exclusivity.
What problems arise with age in people who constantly torment themselves with idiotic diets, sweating in the gym and devouring handfuls of anabolic steroids, vitamins and endless chicken breasts, you, of course, are not aware of.
Leave the fatties alone. They are kind because they are not hungry and can happily afford to drink and eat. They’re fun for the same reason. They don’t go into your gym or into your refrigerator, where a mouse hanged itself from the sight of chicken breasts. What are you itching for?
[quote=0dlb0 post_id=293302 time=1700830952 user_id=21992] [quote=Ksenofont post_id=293156 time=1700823664 user_id= 17996] They live a normal life [/quote] Oh? P.S. Although the category "complete" [/quote] Without any "li" is unclear, although if you like to think differently. Think! In any case, it is useful.
[size=85] [color=green]Sent after 14 minutes 19 seconds:[/color][/size] n[quote=Vasyanitsa post_id=293237 time=1700830426 user_id=20537] [quote=Ksenofont post_id=293156 time=1700823664 user_id =17996] For fat people it is deeply purple what skinny people and jocks think about them. [/quote] Not so purple. Here you put on two sweaters and tie a five-liter canister of ordinary water on your chest, on your back and on both legs. And live with it all day. You constantly sweat, and in a stream. The folds of skin on your arms, legs and groin are chafing. You are constantly hungry. Any steps are a feat. Getting somewhere on foot is also a feat.
And these are only external factors. But there is also an organism that has a hard time maintaining a bunch of this fat. All these very overweight people have a whole bunch of problems even by the age of forty. Well, okay, she’s still a fat twenty-year-old girl. It seems like it’s still tolerable. But by thirty, she will already have problems typical of fifty-year-olds.
[size=85][color=green]Sent after 54 minutes 1 second:[/color][/size] https://t.me/breakingmash/49623 [/quote] I promised myself not to contact you anymore. But I can not. Where do you get such extensive knowledge about the lives of fat people? Where did you highlight them? Or maybe you are like that yourself? Everything you wrote is the thoughts of jocks and thin women. And only because there is nothing else they can do to emphasize their exclusivity. What problems arise with age in people who constantly torment themselves with idiotic diets, sweating in the gym and devouring handfuls of anabolic steroids, vitamins and endless chicken breasts, you, of course, are not aware of. Leave the fatties alone. They are kind because they are not hungry and can happily afford to drink and eat. They’re fun for the same reason. They don’t go into your gym or into your refrigerator, where a mouse hanged itself from the sight of chicken breasts. What are you itching for?
vvm: ↑24 Nov 2023, 05:29
I still can’t really understand how much weight should be with a height of 187?
Skirt: ↑24 Nov 2023, 02:41
And fat people enjoy delicious food. And they get hooked on it.
And they eat and eat like crazy
Where did this “should be” come from? "some weight? I just can’t understand this. Where does this desire to necessarily limit everyone come from?
Most of the cases of obesity are precisely the result of these diets of yours and brainwashing with all sorts of “this is impossible, that is impossible.” People first exhaust themselves with diets, and then break down and overeat. They don’t eat when they’re hungry, and they don’t eat when they’re not.
The pursuit of a 90-60-90 figure is nothing more than marketing, and ordinary people are its victims! Moreover, especially women, they pay the price in full: with bulimia, anorexia, orthorexia and - for men - bigorexia. For what? Idk!
There is no normal body weight, but there is genetics. And there will always be naturally fat people and naturally thin people. And there is no point in shaming people based on their body shape. Here.
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[quote=vvm post_id=293324 time=1700832574 user_id=18147] I still can’t really understand how much weight should be with a height of 187? [/quote] [quote=Sackcloth post_id=293126 time=1700822509 user_id=20537] And fat people enjoy delicious food. And they get hooked on it. And they eat and eat like crazy [/quote] Where did this “should be” come from? "some weight? I just can’t understand this. Where does this desire to necessarily limit everyone come from? Most of the cases of obesity are precisely the result of these diets of yours and brainwashing with all sorts of “this is impossible, that is impossible.” People first exhaust themselves with diets, and then break down and overeat. They don’t eat when they’re hungry, and they don’t eat when they’re not. The pursuit of a 90-60-90 figure is nothing more than marketing, and ordinary people are its victims! Moreover, especially women, they pay the price in full: with bulimia, anorexia, orthorexia and - for men - bigorexia. For what? Idk! There is no normal body weight, but there is genetics. And there will always be naturally fat people and naturally thin people. And there is no point in shaming people based on their body shape. Here.
vvm: ↑24 Nov 2023, 05:29
I still can’t really understand how much weight should be with a height of 187?
Subtract this one hundred and your weight will be 87 kilograms.
You write nonsense . He weighed a hundred, lost weight to 85. I saw him. The stomach looks ugly after losing weight.
I wrote about this above. You either read everything, or don’t read at all.
Your friend just lost half the weight due to muscles. That is, he lost half the fat and lost half the muscle along the way. So for this you need to simultaneously engage in physical strength exercises. If you give your body a load, it will leave the necessary muscle mass for these loads. If muscle mass is not enough for the load that you give him, then he will increase it.
And then understand - eating no more than 1200 kilocalories is not a process of losing weight or starving or anything else. It’s simple: you stop uncontrolled weight gain, which imperceptibly but indirectly and slowly grows upward. That is, you simply do not eat more calories than you burn. And in this way, balance seems to be created on imaginary scales and you should neither lose weight nor gain weight. But the point is that you still cannot know exactly how many calories you spent and how many calories you ate. And these scales are constantly fluctuating.
So you can just start eating even less. For example, 1000 kilocalories. And then there will definitely be a deficit, and then the body will definitely not have enough calories for its own functioning. And then he will go into the bins. But as practice shows, the first thing he does is not fat, but muscle. Fat is reserved for the most extreme cases. Because fat, when burned, produces more calories. That’s why your friend still has a belly fat even after he lost 15 kilograms, as you wrote above. It’s just that out of these fifteen kilograms lost, half were muscles, and the fat remained in the stomach.
So, to prevent this from happening, the body needs to be fucked - to give it a load. Just walking the dog is not enough. We need something more serious. Of course, it’s not worth killing yourself on 1200 calories either. But you need to more or less force your body to work. Read above, I roughly described what kind of exercises these are, with what exactly, what weights, in what mode. If the body has a more or less serious load, it will not eat up the muscles necessary for this load. And even more than that, it will increase if there are not enough of them.
The jocks who go to the gym know all these nuances like ABC and they even have a term - mass gain. When a person requires a lot of iron and eats a lot for this. And gains muscle mass. Well, at the same time, fat too, because he still eats more than he spends. And after gaining weight, he proceeds to the so-called drying. Removing fat from the body. But this is a very technological process. It has little to do with losing weight because you need to be in good physical shape for this. Because fat is lost not so much through poor nutrition as through serious training and significant physical activity.
Well, in general, the most important thing in all of this is the willpower to do all this and not break down and not give up. all this. To be honest, when I see any muscleman, I’m ready to take my hat off to him because what he was able to achieve is worthy of respect. Because most men are only ready to talk shit about this topic and theorize, but when it comes down to it, they can’t resist a pie or an eclair. Or it breaks down after a week of physical exercise because it’s hard, difficult and boring.
But now we’re not talking about an athletic figure, but just about how to get rid of excess weight that shortens our lives.
And right now I don’t want to repeat how to do it again. I have already described everything in detail above in this topic.
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Hooligan Carrie: ↑24 Nov 2023, 13:15
There is no normal body weight, but there is genetics. And there will always be naturally fat people and naturally thin people. And there is no point in shaming people based on their body shape. Here.
Fat people are drug addicts who are addicted to food as a drug. It’s just that food has become a source of pleasure for them. Why this happened is another question.
Most often this happens due to a change in habits from which we enjoy. People often gain a lot of weight after they quit smoking.
Athletes also gain a lot of weight after they stop exercising regularly for one reason or another.
I call these things candy. That is, everyone has their own candy in life. What really brings you pleasure, and what you like, and what is in accessible proximity when you want. But let’s say you quit smoking and the candy disappeared and you are missing something in this life. And instead of a cigarette, you grab something tasty for tea or coffee. Someone gets hooked on strong coffee, someone on beer, someone on booze, someone on chips and cola. And somehow it’s all food. From which excess weight increases.
I have heard a lot from people that especially professional athletes and those who quit smoking gain weight very quickly and rapidly.
And you can invent as much as you like justification for one’s fatness. But you and I actually know that this is not genetics. But you just eat a lot of all sorts of different tasty treats. And you can’t stop yourself or somehow limit yourself from devouring them. And to lose weight, you just need to stop eating a lot uncontrollably.
I personally ended up in the hospital with Covid a couple of years ago. I barely made it out, there was 80 percent damage to my lungs. I was in intensive care for a week.
So during the month that I stayed in the hospital, I lost ten kilograms. And this despite the fact that they fed me there three times a day, plus an afternoon snack and plus kefir and cookies before bed.
And yet I lost 10 kg. Despite the fact that he hardly moved and spent most of the time lying on the bed and did nothing but eat something all the time. Before I had time to have breakfast, they were already bringing lunch. Toko had lunch - it’s already five o’clock, dinner. And so on.
And it’s all about the portions. The portions were meager. Two spoons of salad. Porridge for breakfast, two spoons, one small piece of bread with a vanishingly small piece of cheese or butter.
And always a little bit of everything. And a constant feeling of hunger. The men in the ward suffered greatly from such food. And everyone didn’t have enough food. The transfers were not particularly welcomed because it was impossible to come to the wards, and also to the hospital. And each transfer had to be ordered through a paid courier. And therefore, the programs were only when you needed something really most necessary.
I am writing all this to mean that you can become slim, with a beautiful waist and a big ass for this waist and without these piglet folds on the sides. All you have to do is want it. And for this you need very little - just stop eating a lot and uncontrollably. And the weight will go away. And your body will thank you very much.
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Ksenofont: ↑24 Nov 2023, 06:32
I promised myself not to contact you anymore. But I can not. Where do you get such extensive knowledge about the lives of fat people? Where did you highlight them? Or maybe you yourself are like that?
Everything you wrote is the thoughts of jocks and skinny people. And only because there is nothing else they can do to emphasize their exclusivity.
What problems do people have with age who constantly torment themselves with idiotic diets, sweating in the gym and devouring handfuls of anabolic steroids, vitamins and endless chicken breasts, you, of course, I don’t know.
Leave the fatties alone. They are kind because they are not hungry and can happily afford to drink and eat. They’re fun for the same reason. They don’t go into your gym or into your refrigerator, where a mouse hanged itself from the sight of chicken breasts. What are you itching for?
Tell me, when you have a belly as if you are six months pregnant, is it good or bad?
No need to make things up Is something simple - good or bad for the body as a whole?
When you can’t tie your shoe laces because of your belly and it makes your face flush with blood, is that good?
Then that because of your excess weight, your blood pressure from time to time is 160 over 100 - is this good?
The fact that someone develops diabetes mellitus due to excess weight is good!?
So that you, with normal walking quickly down the street you start to feel out of breath - is this good?
The fact that you constantly sweat a lot due to excess weight and any steps are a challenge for you - is this good?
Well Is there anything beautiful in all this?
Next...
Yes, there are extremes. Fitness babes, jocks in the gym with hypertrophied muscles. But I’m not talking about them here.
Because these are all extremes. In fact, there aren’t that many of them even in any gym. And the majority of those training in the gym are ordinary scumbags who came in the hope of maybe becoming at least a little stronger. Another category of those who go to the gym are fatties who came there in the hope of losing weight. As a rule, local coaches immediately attack them and negotiate with them to coach for a certain fee. And then they somehow supervise their classes. But this is really just bullshit. They will not lose any weight and the cart will still be there. Because you first need to stop eating a lot. And as a gym trainer, he won’t control you what’s in your refrigerator at home.
If you’re interested, I can tell you about the jocks, the fit women and everything connected with them. But I’ll say right away that they have nothing to do with the general state of affairs among ordinary people who go to the gym, or who try to look after their health. These jocks and these fit women are almost professional athletes. And the hall is, in fact, almost their place of work. They usually have an agreement with the gym where they go and in this hall they immediately take on every newcomer and offer their consulting services.
After all, when you come to the gym, you have absolutely no idea why you came there at all and what you need there do now. Here’s a jock who will tell you popularly. He will show everything and explain everything. For money. He will help you create a training program depending on your wishes.
So you care about this pumping as you do about China with cancer. This is heaven and earth. This is his work, and his body is his means of production, and at the same time his advertising. And you will never achieve this in this life. But if you still want to, then this is where you will need anabolic steroids.
But if you are not going to become a muscle-coach and are not going to quit your job and change your lifestyle altogether, then you will not need any chicken breasts or any anabolic steroids. All you need to do is simply lose weight and gain some muscle mass. In other words, become stronger. And for this you don’t need either chicken breasts or anabolic steroids. Your body will do everything for you. You just need to stop uncontrollably eating anything and start regularly loading your body with physical activity. And the most important thing is not to give up this business for a week, two, three, a month, three months, six months...
[quote=vvm post_id=293324 time=1700832574 user_id=18147] I still can’t really understand how much weight should be with a height of 187? [/quote] Subtract this one hundred and your weight will be 87 kilograms.[quote=vvm post_id=293324 time=1700832574 user_id=18147] You write nonsense . He weighed a hundred, lost weight to 85. I saw him. The stomach looks ugly after losing weight. [/quote] I wrote about this above. You either read everything, or don’t read at all. Your friend just lost half the weight due to muscles. That is, he lost half the fat and lost half the muscle along the way. So for this you need to simultaneously engage in physical strength exercises. If you give your body a load, it will leave the necessary muscle mass for these loads. If muscle mass is not enough for the load that you give him, then he will increase it.
And then understand - eating no more than 1200 kilocalories is not a process of losing weight or starving or anything else. It’s simple: you stop uncontrolled weight gain, which imperceptibly but indirectly and slowly grows upward. That is, you simply do not eat more calories than you burn. And in this way, balance seems to be created on imaginary scales and you should neither lose weight nor gain weight. But the point is that you still cannot know exactly how many calories you spent and how many calories you ate. And these scales are constantly fluctuating.
So you can just start eating even less. For example, 1000 kilocalories. And then there will definitely be a deficit, and then the body will definitely not have enough calories for its own functioning. And then he will go into the bins. But as practice shows, the first thing he does is not fat, but muscle. Fat is reserved for the most extreme cases. Because fat, when burned, produces more calories. That’s why your friend still has a belly fat even after he lost 15 kilograms, as you wrote above. It’s just that out of these fifteen kilograms lost, half were muscles, and the fat remained in the stomach.
So, to prevent this from happening, the body needs to be fucked - to give it a load. Just walking the dog is not enough. We need something more serious. Of course, it’s not worth killing yourself on 1200 calories either. But you need to more or less force your body to work. Read above, I roughly described what kind of exercises these are, with what exactly, what weights, in what mode. If the body has a more or less serious load, it will not eat up the muscles necessary for this load. And even more than that, it will increase if there are not enough of them.
The jocks who go to the gym know all these nuances like ABC and they even have a term - mass gain. When a person requires a lot of iron and eats a lot for this. And gains muscle mass. Well, at the same time, fat too, because he still eats more than he spends. And after gaining weight, he proceeds to the so-called drying. Removing fat from the body. But this is a very technological process. It has little to do with losing weight because you need to be in good physical shape for this. Because fat is lost not so much through poor nutrition as through serious training and significant physical activity.
Well, in general, the most important thing in all of this is the willpower to do all this and not break down and not give up. all this. To be honest, when I see any muscleman, I’m ready to take my hat off to him because what he was able to achieve is worthy of respect. Because most men are only ready to talk shit about this topic and theorize, but when it comes down to it, they can’t resist a pie or an eclair. Or it breaks down after a week of physical exercise because it’s hard, difficult and boring.
But now we’re not talking about an athletic figure, but just about how to get rid of excess weight that shortens our lives. And right now I don’t want to repeat how to do it again. I have already described everything in detail above in this topic.
[size=85][color=green]Sent after 34 minutes 8 seconds:[/color][/size] [quote="Hooligan Carrie " post_id=293555 time=1700860546 user_id=18654] There is no normal body weight, but there is genetics. And there will always be naturally fat people and naturally thin people. And there is no point in shaming people based on their body shape. Here. [/quote] Fat people are drug addicts who are addicted to food as a drug. It’s just that food has become a source of pleasure for them. Why this happened is another question. Most often this happens due to a change in habits from which we enjoy. People often gain a lot of weight after they quit smoking. Athletes also gain a lot of weight after they stop exercising regularly for one reason or another.
I call these things candy. That is, everyone has their own candy in life. What really brings you pleasure, and what you like, and what is in accessible proximity when you want. But let’s say you quit smoking and the candy disappeared and you are missing something in this life. And instead of a cigarette, you grab something tasty for tea or coffee. Someone gets hooked on strong coffee, someone on beer, someone on booze, someone on chips and cola. And somehow it’s all food. From which excess weight increases. I have heard a lot from people that especially professional athletes and those who quit smoking gain weight very quickly and rapidly.
And you can invent as much as you like justification for one’s fatness. But you and I actually know that this is not genetics. But you just eat a lot of all sorts of different tasty treats. And you can’t stop yourself or somehow limit yourself from devouring them. And to lose weight, you just need to stop eating a lot uncontrollably. I personally ended up in the hospital with Covid a couple of years ago. I barely made it out, there was 80 percent damage to my lungs. I was in intensive care for a week.
So during the month that I stayed in the hospital, I lost ten kilograms. And this despite the fact that they fed me there three times a day, plus an afternoon snack and plus kefir and cookies before bed. And yet I lost 10 kg. Despite the fact that he hardly moved and spent most of the time lying on the bed and did nothing but eat something all the time. Before I had time to have breakfast, they were already bringing lunch. Toko had lunch - it’s already five o’clock, dinner. And so on.
And it’s all about the portions. The portions were meager. Two spoons of salad. Porridge for breakfast, two spoons, one small piece of bread with a vanishingly small piece of cheese or butter. And always a little bit of everything. And a constant feeling of hunger. The men in the ward suffered greatly from such food. And everyone didn’t have enough food. The transfers were not particularly welcomed because it was impossible to come to the wards, and also to the hospital. And each transfer had to be ordered through a paid courier. And therefore, the programs were only when you needed something really most necessary.
I am writing all this to mean that you can become slim, with a beautiful waist and a big ass for this waist and without these piglet folds on the sides. All you have to do is want it. And for this you need very little - just stop eating a lot and uncontrollably. And the weight will go away. And your body will thank you very much.
[size=85][color=green]Sent after 25 minutes 48 seconds:[/color][/size] [quote=Ksenofont post_id=293367 time=1700836326 user_id= 17996] I promised myself not to contact you anymore. But I can not. Where do you get such extensive knowledge about the lives of fat people? Where did you highlight them? Or maybe you yourself are like that? Everything you wrote is the thoughts of jocks and skinny people. And only because there is nothing else they can do to emphasize their exclusivity. What problems do people have with age who constantly torment themselves with idiotic diets, sweating in the gym and devouring handfuls of anabolic steroids, vitamins and endless chicken breasts, you, of course, I don’t know. Leave the fatties alone. They are kind because they are not hungry and can happily afford to drink and eat. They’re fun for the same reason. They don’t go into your gym or into your refrigerator, where a mouse hanged itself from the sight of chicken breasts. What are you itching for? [/quote] Tell me, when you have a belly as if you are six months pregnant, is it good or bad? No need to make things up Is something simple - good or bad for the body as a whole? When you can’t tie your shoe laces because of your belly and it makes your face flush with blood, is that good? Then that because of your excess weight, your blood pressure from time to time is 160 over 100 - is this good? The fact that someone develops diabetes mellitus due to excess weight is good!? So that you, with normal walking quickly down the street you start to feel out of breath - is this good? The fact that you constantly sweat a lot due to excess weight and any steps are a challenge for you - is this good?
Well Is there anything beautiful in all this?
Next... Yes, there are extremes. Fitness babes, jocks in the gym with hypertrophied muscles. But I’m not talking about them here. Because these are all extremes. In fact, there aren’t that many of them even in any gym. And the majority of those training in the gym are ordinary scumbags who came in the hope of maybe becoming at least a little stronger. Another category of those who go to the gym are fatties who came there in the hope of losing weight. As a rule, local coaches immediately attack them and negotiate with them to coach for a certain fee. And then they somehow supervise their classes. But this is really just bullshit. They will not lose any weight and the cart will still be there. Because you first need to stop eating a lot. And as a gym trainer, he won’t control you what’s in your refrigerator at home.
If you’re interested, I can tell you about the jocks, the fit women and everything connected with them. But I’ll say right away that they have nothing to do with the general state of affairs among ordinary people who go to the gym, or who try to look after their health. These jocks and these fit women are almost professional athletes. And the hall is, in fact, almost their place of work. They usually have an agreement with the gym where they go and in this hall they immediately take on every newcomer and offer their consulting services. After all, when you come to the gym, you have absolutely no idea why you came there at all and what you need there do now. Here’s a jock who will tell you popularly. He will show everything and explain everything. For money. He will help you create a training program depending on your wishes.
So you care about this pumping as you do about China with cancer. This is heaven and earth. This is his work, and his body is his means of production, and at the same time his advertising. And you will never achieve this in this life. But if you still want to, then this is where you will need anabolic steroids. But if you are not going to become a muscle-coach and are not going to quit your job and change your lifestyle altogether, then you will not need any chicken breasts or any anabolic steroids. All you need to do is simply lose weight and gain some muscle mass. In other words, become stronger. And for this you don’t need either chicken breasts or anabolic steroids. Your body will do everything for you. You just need to stop uncontrollably eating anything and start regularly loading your body with physical activity. And the most important thing is not to give up this business for a week, two, three, a month, three months, six months...
hair shirt, write concisely! The forum uses a conversational style, but you push speeches - it’s tiring and annoying. Is this what you are trying to achieve?
[ref=#804000]hair shirt[/ref], write concisely! The forum uses a conversational style, but you push speeches - it’s tiring and annoying. Is this what you are trying to achieve?
Gudgeon: ↑24 Nov 2023, 14:34
I wonder if anyone even reads these meaningless sheets?
Now, if one of these sheets described in detail the place where the lemon bucks lies, would you Didn’t you read it too?
And you would also be surprised that someone really needs a lemon of bucks?
It’s just not interesting to you from the word at all. I, too, may not be interested in what is very interesting to you, so what!?
I’m just telling you very valuable things that take years of life to comprehend. And here quite complex things are explained quite concisely and compactly.
I know many people who quit smoking more than once or twice and it didn’t work out.
The same thing with overweight. It causes very big problems, and the further you go, the worse. But losing weight just doesn’t work out, and sometimes people don’t even honestly know who to believe and where is the most correct way to achieve this goal. If you are not interested, then fine.
Why is it necessary to throw a stone at something you don’t understand?
You can’t just pass by?
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vvm: ↑
Hair shirt, write curly! The forum uses a conversational style, but you push speeches - it’s tiring and annoying. Are you achieving this?
In your account settings there is an option where you can enter my nickname and you will not see my messages. What’s the problem?
But there are still people who speak an incomprehensible language? Do you also need to do something urgently with them? Take them out into the yard and shoot them?
Why are they talking in an incomprehensible language! Shoot!
Can’t you just pass by? Where does authoritarianism come from?
[quote=Gudgeon post_id=293569 time=1700865293 user_id=10218] I wonder if anyone even reads these meaningless sheets? [/quote] Now, if one of these sheets described in detail the place where the lemon bucks lies, would you Didn’t you read it too? :-) And you would also be surprised that someone really needs a lemon of bucks? It’s just not interesting to you from the word at all. I, too, may not be interested in what is very interesting to you, so what!? I’m just telling you very valuable things that take years of life to comprehend. And here quite complex things are explained quite concisely and compactly.
I know many people who quit smoking more than once or twice and it didn’t work out. The same thing with overweight. It causes very big problems, and the further you go, the worse. But losing weight just doesn’t work out, and sometimes people don’t even honestly know who to believe and where is the most correct way to achieve this goal. If you are not interested, then fine. Why is it necessary to throw a stone at something you don’t understand? You can’t just pass by?
[size=85][color=green]Sent after 3 minutes 46 seconds: [/color][/size] [quote=vvm post_id=293576 time=1700868635 user_id=18147] Hair shirt, write curly! The forum uses a conversational style, but you push speeches - it’s tiring and annoying. Are you achieving this? [/quote] In your account settings there is an option where you can enter my nickname and you will not see my messages. What’s the problem? But there are still people who speak an incomprehensible language? Do you also need to do something urgently with them? Take them out into the yard and shoot them? Why are they talking in an incomprehensible language! Shoot! Can’t you just pass by? Where does authoritarianism come from?
LenychSauron: ↑20 Nov 2023, 10:58
LenychSauron » November 21, 2023, 04:58
I have been divorced for quite some time, I have a 4-year-old son. I tried in vain to find the man. First, the father of a boy from my son’s group met me in kindergarten. He courted me beautifully, we actively met for about 10 days, then he had some business to do, and communication came to naught. Then my best friend introduced me to a guy. We dated for two months, lived together, everything was great, then he said that we should break up. I think okay, I’ll register on a dating site. I met another man, he also courted me beautifully, the first date was in a restaurant in Moscow City, the second at the Eiffel Tower, he was better in bed than all my exes. When he came to me and found out that I had a son, he said goodbye. Then I met another one. She brought him home, introduced him to his son, and he gave him expensive Lego. During sex he swore his love to me. The next day after morning sex he disappeared. This is why men are so anxious??? At first they court beautifully, and after sex or a couple of months of relationship, they merge and kick. not ready for other people’s children, this also has a big impact
[quote=LenychSauron post_id=291184 time=1700506708 user_id=21933] LenychSauron » November 21, 2023, 04:58 I have been divorced for quite some time, I have a 4-year-old son. I tried in vain to find the man. First, the father of a boy from my son’s group met me in kindergarten. He courted me beautifully, we actively met for about 10 days, then he had some business to do, and communication came to naught. Then my best friend introduced me to a guy. We dated for two months, lived together, everything was great, then he said that we should break up. I think okay, I’ll register on a dating site. I met another man, he also courted me beautifully, the first date was in a restaurant in Moscow City, the second at the Eiffel Tower, he was better in bed than all my exes. When he came to me and found out that I had a son, he said goodbye. Then I met another one. She brought him home, introduced him to his son, and he gave him expensive Lego. During sex he swore his love to me. The next day after morning sex he disappeared. This is why men are so anxious??? At first they court beautifully, and after sex or a couple of months of relationship, they merge and kick. not ready for other people’s children, this also has a big impact
Hooligan Carrie: ↑24 Nov 2023, 13:15
Where did this "should be" some kind of weight come from? I just can’t understand this. Where does this desire to necessarily limit everyone come from?
I wrote more as a joke that I was looking for a number. I have never struggled with weight, but age has no mercy, it’s better not to neglect it. I lost 8-9 kilos without feeling hungry. But seriously, there are medical studies and statistics. For example, vesceral fat leads to systemic inflammatory processes, including diabetes. My neighbor weighs 150 kg at my height, he is 8 years younger than me and he is all sick. Will he live to see my age? Obesity is a disease.
I once met a guy in the taiga, and we started talking. He said that he worked here as a forester all his life and is now retired. I went to see my son, his son lives alone in the forest, 50 km away. He himself looked about 60, of average height, lean, raincoat, boots. Once there was a conversation about physical strength, he said that at seventy he could do pull-ups with one arm; he turned out to be 74 years old. You can say genetics, or you can say lifestyle.
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Vasyanitsa: ↑24 Nov 2023, 14:18
Your friend just lost half his weight due to muscles. That is, he lost half the fat and lost half the muscle along the way
You have to ask first, and then draw conclusions. He was born in 68, does 20 pull-ups, uses more weight on the barbell, and I see his figure in the gym when he boxes. And yes, he is on HRT, but the muscles don’t go away on testosterone.
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Skirt hair shirt: ↑24 Nov 2023, 15:40
In your account settings there is an option where you can enter my nickname and you will not see my messages. What’s the problem?
I didn’t read your stream of consciousness sheets anyway, I skipped it. But you quoted me...
[quote="Hooligan Carrie" post_id=293555 time=1700860546 user_id=18654] Where did this "should be" some kind of weight come from? I just can’t understand this. Where does this desire to necessarily limit everyone come from? [/quote] I wrote more as a joke that I was looking for a number. I have never struggled with weight, but age has no mercy, it’s better not to neglect it. I lost 8-9 kilos without feeling hungry. But seriously, there are medical studies and statistics. For example, vesceral fat leads to systemic inflammatory processes, including diabetes. My neighbor weighs 150 kg at my height, he is 8 years younger than me and he is all sick. Will he live to see my age? Obesity is a disease. I once met a guy in the taiga, and we started talking. He said that he worked here as a forester all his life and is now retired. I went to see my son, his son lives alone in the forest, 50 km away. He himself looked about 60, of average height, lean, raincoat, boots. Once there was a conversation about physical strength, he said that at seventy he could do pull-ups with one arm; he turned out to be 74 years old. You can say genetics, or you can say lifestyle.
[size=85][color=green]Sent after 10 minutes 14 seconds:[/color][/size] [quote=Vasyanitsa post_id=293556 time=1700864293 user_id =20537] Your friend just lost half his weight due to muscles. That is, he lost half the fat and lost half the muscle along the way [/quote] You have to ask first, and then draw conclusions. He was born in 68, does 20 pull-ups, uses more weight on the barbell, and I see his figure in the gym when he boxes. And yes, he is on HRT, but the muscles don’t go away on testosterone.
[size=85][color=green]Sent after 3 minutes 4 seconds:[/color][/size] [quote=Ski shirt post_id=293577 time=1700869230 user_id=20537] In your account settings there is an option where you can enter my nickname and you will not see my messages. What’s the problem? [/quote] I didn’t read your stream of consciousness sheets anyway, I skipped it. But you quoted me...
vvm: ↑24 Nov 2023, 15:30hair shirt, write concisely! The forum uses a conversational style, but you push speeches - it’s tiring and annoying. Are you trying to achieve this?
I support reading abstruse foot wraps on such forums, it’s better to read a book offline
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Gudgeon: ↑24 Nov 2023, 14:34
I wonder if anyone even reads these meaningless sheets?
[quote=vvm post_id=293576 time=1700868635 user_id=18147] [ref=#804000]hair shirt[/ref], write concisely! The forum uses a conversational style, but you push speeches - it’s tiring and annoying. Are you trying to achieve this? [/quote]I support reading abstruse foot wraps on such forums, it’s better to read a book offline
[size=85][color=green]Sent after 27 seconds:[ /color][/size] [quote=Gudgeon post_id=293569 time=1700865293 user_id=10218] I wonder if anyone even reads these meaningless sheets? [/quote ]he writes and rewrites himself
[quote=Belkha post_id=293823 time=1700909465 user_id=18415] read abstruse foot wraps on such forums [/quote] a person.. just likes the process..) if he were like that.. licked [ref=#bf0000]Hooligan Carrie[/ref].. in short, she would have liked it..)
What conditions might there be for me, etc.?
I’m just still inexperienced and in the future I’m going to move to another city. At the same time, I am quite prominent - tall, athletic, stately. And...
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Yeah, well, this is just a joke, it doesn’t happen
Hello dear ladies, are there any Samara cunts on the forum? Interesting to see your beautiful baby; flower,))) anonymously so you can find out how things really are with beauty in Samara)
After all, women drive much more carefully than men, they don’t drive too fast, they don’t drive on the side of the road, they don’t climb out of the second row)
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More minor accidents due to excessive caution.
After all, women drive much more carefully than men, they don’t speed, they don’t drive on the side of the road, they don’t get in the second row)