He stabbed him in the chest in front of passers-by. The court found a 42-year-old Muscovite guilty of murdering his ex-wife

[Venus]

there was constant communication on her part, perhaps she demanded something, more likely it was leading to murder. This is what I meant. I know quite a bit about this, I worked as a bailiff for 9 years,

It turns out to be a kind of domestic violence, so the term is shorter.

Domestic violence is when a husband quarrels with his wife or a wife with her husband, and in the process of quarreling they stick a knife. When 6 years have passed since the divorce, her husband is preparing to kill her, waiting for her near work for several hours... This is premeditated murder. There was a death penalty for such a murder in the USSR.

[Tanya]

When 6 years have passed after the divorce, the husband is preparing for murder, waiting for her for several hours near work... This is premeditated murder. There was a death penalty for such a murder in the USSR.

Why do you constantly write how many years have passed since the divorce? This would be relevant if it were not for the presence of a common child. To be honest, I couldn’t stand many scandalous, hysterical alimony women, the man got so tired of it, he got divorced, but that’s not enough for them, they go to the bailiffs, write complaints, dig up the property of their ex, and sometimes don’t give them a place to live. What makes you think that all these years he had been hatching the idea of ​​killing her? Or maybe everything was simpler... and she told him the day before that she wouldn’t let him see her son anymore and that her new dick would now be his son’s dad and... the guy lost his temper.

[Venus]

When 6 years have passed after the divorce, the husband is preparing for murder, waiting for her for several hours near work... This is premeditated murder. There was a death penalty for such a murder in the USSR.

Why do you constantly write how many years have passed since the divorce? This would be relevant if it were not for the presence of a common child. To be honest, I couldn’t stand many scandalous, hysterical alimony women, the man got so tired of it, he got divorced, but that’s not enough for them, they go to the bailiffs, write complaints, dig up the property of their ex, and sometimes don’t give them a place to live. What makes you think that all these years he had been hatching the idea of ​​killing her? Or maybe everything was simpler..and she told him the day before that she wouldn’t let him see her son anymore and that new dick of hers would now be his son’s dad and..the guy lost his mind.

I advised you that day to read about this case, but instead you constantly come up with something. This is firstly, and secondly, no matter what happens, you can’t kill people, and if you do, you must be prepared to be killed.
They, as you put it, are tearing down their tower, this torn down tower should shoot.

[Tanya]

Strecoza, you know, more than 15 years ago there was one driver , driving a bus that was obviously faulty, driving for more than a day without sleep... drove into oncoming traffic and rolled my cousin with her little son and husband into the asphalt... a head-on collision, the bus hit their car and completely crushed it... The prosecutor asked 5 years..and the court gave 6..And I feel sorry for that guy..And I don’t wish him death any more.
And how good it is that in our country there is no death penalty. You can’t be so cruel. We, I repeat, do not know the full details of the case, let alone how they can write... it’s like it’s written on a fence, and there’s firewood there.

[Venus]

Strecoza, you know, it’s already more than 15 years ago, one driver, driving a obviously faulty bus, driving for more than a day without sleep... drove into oncoming traffic and rolled my cousin with her little son and husband into the asphalt... a head-on collision, the bus ran over their car and completely crushed it. The prosecutor asked for 5 years... and the court gave 6... And I feel sorry for that guy... And I don’t wish him death.
And it’s good that there is no death penalty in our country. You can’t be so cruel. . We, I repeat, do not know the full details of the case, let alone how they can write... it’s like it’s written on a fence, and there’s firewood there.

Don’t compare a bus driver and a murderer who was waiting for his wife with the intention of killing and killed.

[Natalie]

driving a bus that was obviously faulty, having been behind the wheel for more than a day without sleep... I drove into oncoming traffic and rolled my cousin with her little son and husband into the asphalt... a head-on collision, the bus ran over their car and completely

I sincerely sympathize with you. But you understand that this is not the same thing?
An accident, a coincidence and premeditated murder!. Are you arguing out of stubbornness?

[Venus]

driving a bus that was obviously faulty, having been behind the wheel for more than a day without sleep... I drove into oncoming traffic and rolled my cousin with her little son and husband into the asphalt... a head-on collision, the bus ran over their car and completely

I sincerely sympathize with you. But you understand that this is not the same thing?
An accident, a coincidence and premeditated murder!. Are you arguing out of stubbornness?

I’ll now explain to you how this happens. The men in this topic try on the role of a killer, well, what if they are driven to the point and have to be killed, and in order not to sit for a long time, they are all very humane. Tanya has a son and she most likely thinks that he will have a wife, and God forbid, he will kill her and what now, he will then rot in prison... No one thinks that their loved ones could be in the place of the murderer’s victim relatives, or themselves. Then they won’t say that 6 years is a long time...

[Natalie]

And having a child is not a mitigating circumstance. What will he say to the child?! Why did you take your mother away? What will the child tell him? You made me cry((((

[Tanya]

Girls, I don’t justify murderers, they should be in prison. I am against the death penalty in principle! And if they kill my child, God forbid, I don’t wish death on the killer and I never will. Lord, if you only knew what terrible crimes we have here in my city. people were in prison, and I know, I read these cases since childhood, my dad forced me... he was then the head of the special unit in the zone. And there were murders of both children and women on sexual grounds... 2 or more, and they were not executed in the USSR then. .So..

[Venus]

Girls, I don’t justify the murderers, they should be in prison. I am against the death penalty in principle! And if they kill my child, God forbid, I don’t wish death on the killer and I never will. Lord, if you only knew what terrible crimes we have here in my city. people were in prison, and I know, I read these cases since childhood, my dad forced me... he was then the head of the special unit in the zone. And there were murders of both children and women on sexual grounds... 2 or more, and they were not executed in the USSR then. .so..

Well, this is not correct. You can’t kill people, and if they do, then why feel sorry for them? For what?

[Tanya]

Well, this is not right. You can’t kill people, and if they do, then why feel sorry for them? For what?

You yourself write that you can’t kill people. You know, in 1990, a 19-year-old guy came to our zone as a convoy... for a murder that he did not commit... He was in jail for theft, and when he got out. then his mother kicked him out of the apartment and he slept in the basement with homeless people... one morning he woke up... and there was blood all around and one homeless person was killed... and the guy personally used this knife to open canned food before the murder... You know, my dad tried to help the guy, he said we’ll appeal the verdict, at least you won’t serve much time, but you’ll get out on parole... his mother invited him, and she... a drunken bitch came to a date on a date... and a day later the guy escaped from the zone... That was the first time I held a weapon in my hands. Dad was on reinforcement, they were looking for that guy... all the employees were armed. Dad told how he was detained, they tried to persuade him to surrender... They gave him a deadline... he probably got out already in his thirties. Do you think it is necessary to kill him?

[RANGE_]

Strecoza,
what about medical errors and miscalculations?
Shoot them too?
When doctors refuse medical care, they see that a person needs hospitalization, while saying that this is not their case.

nAnd the case about teenage epilepsy - outwardly it looks like fainting and suffocation. The most the SP doctors did was a sedative injection. And they avoided hospitalization. Like, Covid and so on. There is no room.
An ambulance was called for the child from specific neurology medical institutions. We came. But everyone refused.
And all this within a week. Weeks!!!

It was my niece and goddaughter. Really, she was like a daughter to me.
I remember those days for the rest of my life. All that ill-fated week. How he caught her in fits so that she wouldn’t hurt herself. How he couldn’t help her, because he didn’t know how.

Until the attending physician got through, and until he called the hospital himself (there were places available, the SP doctors blatantly lied) - that’s when they accepted the niece.
They brought her to the hospital in the evening. Almost the entire staff saw the girl’s attacks.
As a result, the next morning, the girl, at the age of 17, died in the hospital. "Stroke" in the death report.

Then the opera and investigators from the Investigative Committee dragged me around and tortured me with questions about doctors. And the doctors themselves were called. The Investigative Committee was ready to initiate a criminal case, but the sister did not file any claims against the doctors. Although she told investigators from the Investigative Committee the whole story about the ambulances and their refusal to admit her to hospitalization.

Do you think I should now shoot those ambulance doctors, or what?
Or do I not understand anything, and this is something else?

[Venus]

Well, this is not correct. You can’t kill people, and if they do, then why feel sorry for them? For what?

You yourself write that you can’t kill people. You know, in 1990, a 19-year-old guy came to our zone as a convoy... for a murder that he did not commit... He was in jail for theft, and when he got out. then his mother kicked him out of the apartment and he slept in the basement with homeless people... one morning he woke up... and there was blood all around and one homeless person was killed... and the guy personally used this knife to open canned food before the murder... You know, my dad tried to help the guy, he said we’ll appeal the verdict, at least you won’t serve much time, but you’ll get out on parole... his mother invited him, and she... a drunken bitch came to a date on a date... and a day later the guy escaped from the zone... That was the first time I held a weapon in my hands. Dad was on reinforcement, they were looking for that guy... all the employees were armed. Dad told how he was detained, they tried to persuade him to surrender... They gave him a deadline... he probably got out already in his thirties. Do you think it is necessary to kill him?

Well, firstly, the husband’s murder of his wife took place under video cameras and in front of numerous witnesses. Such a person can be safely tried and the sentence carried out right there.
Well, secondly, why did your dad decide that the guy in his story didn’t kill? Your dad found the real killer, but the court still put that guy in jail? Or did he simply take the former convict at his word? Domestic murders often happen when people are drinking together, and then one person is insulted and kills. These also need to be executed, like any other murder.
I can only understand a murder that was committed within the limits of self-defense in defense of oneself and other normal people.

Well, I understand that guy’s mother perfectly well. He probably already got her when he was stealing, and after the murder she regretted that she gave birth to him.

[Tanya]

Strecoza, hmm..If God forbid your child kills, then you yourself will execute him?
How did my dad know that the guy didn’t kill? And half of our cases are sewn with white thread. My mentor is a criminal judge... she was fired from the court because she began to argue with the system and sent most of the cases for further investigation, in half of the cases we did not collect evidence correctly, in violation of the law, or in general who was caught first, he’s the killer. And this is all around! This is also why I am categorically against the death penalty.

[Venus]

Strecoza,
But what about medical errors and miscalculations?
Shoot them too?
When doctors refuse medical care, they see that a person needs hospitalization, while saying that this is not their case.

nAnd the case about teenage epilepsy - outwardly it looks like fainting and suffocation. The most the SP doctors did was a sedative injection. And they avoided hospitalization. Like, Covid and so on. There is no room.
An ambulance was called for the child from specific neurology medical institutions. We came. But everyone refused.
And all this within a week. Weeks!!!

It was my niece and goddaughter. Really, she was like a daughter to me.
I remember those days for the rest of my life. All that ill-fated week. How he caught her in fits so that she wouldn’t hurt herself. How he couldn’t help her, because he didn’t know how.

Until the attending physician got through, and until he called the hospital himself (there were places available, the SP doctors blatantly lied) - that’s when they accepted the niece.
They brought her to the hospital in the evening. Almost the entire staff saw the girl’s attacks.
As a result, the next morning, the girl, at the age of 17, died in the hospital. "Stroke" in the death report.

Then the opera and investigators from the Investigative Committee dragged me around and tortured me with questions about doctors. And the doctors themselves were called. The Investigative Committee was ready to initiate a criminal case, but the sister did not file any claims against the doctors. Although she told investigators from the Investigative Committee the whole story about the ambulances and their refusal to admit her to hospitalization.

Do you think I should now shoot those ambulance doctors, or what?
Or do I not understand anything, and this is something else?

Such cases as you described are not initiated at the request of the victims. It’s not for nothing that you wrote that your sister was dragged by the investigators. They would have opened a criminal case automatically if they had found elements of a crime in the actions of the doctors. But, as I understand, they found nothing illegal in the doctors’ actions, and they regretted bringing a case against your sister, but in vain.
It is not the doctors who should be imprisoned here, but your sister.

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Strecoza , hmm..If God forbid your child kills, then you will execute him yourself?
How did my dad know that the guy didn’t kill? And half of our cases are sewn with white thread. My mentor is a criminal judge... she was fired from the court because she began to argue with the system and sent most of the cases for further investigation, in half of the cases we did not collect evidence correctly, in violation of the law, or in general who was caught first, he’s the killer. And this is all around! This is also why I am categorically against the death penalty.

Well, how did your dad know that that guy didn’t kill? You would write that he doubted or knew the real killer. You are an adult and you understand that you can only assert something if you have proof.
Well, let’s say the person is innocent and they give him ten years in prison. Do you think it will be good for an innocent person? Even if not nine, but seven. Will this be good for him?

[Tanya]

Well, how did your dad know that that guy didn’t kill? You would write that he doubted or knew the real killer. You are an adult and you understand that you can only say something if you have proof.
Well, let’s say the person is innocent and they give him ten years in prison. Do you think it will be good for an innocent person? Even if not nine, but seven. Will this be for his benefit?

This is why the head of the special unit is needed, so that in case of doubt about the correctness of the sentence, he can file a case with a higher court. The case was done with white thread; they simply didn’t even catch the other homeless people, although the prints with blood on them were no longer the guy’s. My dad at one time got several people acquitted... And if he told me that the guy didn’t kill, then there were reasons. Do you think it is better to shoot an innocent person than to serve 10 years for him? Lord, well, you write. that you are a doctor, where does such cruelty come from?

[Venus]

Ambulances were called for the child from specific neurology medical institutions. We came. But everyone refused.
And all this over the course of a week. Weeks!!!

It was my niece and goddaughter. Really, she was like a daughter to me

And, you know, what I can tell you specifically personally. You spent a whole week watching your child get sick. We would go to see other doctors, we would go to paid doctors. If they went to the police station, they would give someone a bribe so that they would admit her, so that she would be examined. Your sister, like a mother, is absolutely useless and you are the same no godfather.

You have done absolutely nothing for your child. You called an ambulance and now you still have enough conscience to blame someone here, to come up with excuses for yourself.
But there is no excuse for you and there never will be.

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Well, how did your dad know that that guy didn’t kill? You would write that he doubted or knew the real killer. You are an adult and you understand that you can only say something if you have proof.
Well, let’s say the person is innocent and they give him ten years in prison. Do you think it will be good for an innocent person? Even if not nine, but seven. Will this be for his benefit?

This is why the head of the special unit is needed, so that in case of doubt about the correctness of the sentence, he can file a case with a higher court. The case was done with white thread; they simply didn’t even catch the other homeless people, although the prints with blood on them were no longer the guy’s. My dad at one time got several people acquitted... And if he told me that the guy didn’t kill, then there were reasons. Do you think it is better to shoot an innocent person than to serve 10 years for him? Lord, well, you write. that you are a doctor, where does such cruelty come from?

10 years in prison is not cruelty?

[Tanya]

10 years in prison is not cruelty?

Is it better to shoot?

[Venus]

10 years in prison is not cruelty?

Is it better to shoot?

Of course. Well, and shoot those who sew the cases together with white threads and who also pass sentences in such cases. It will be fair.

[RANGE_]

You have done absolutely nothing for your child. You called the ambulance and now you still have enough conscience to blame someone here, to come up with excuses for yourself.
But you have no excuse and never will.

I described all this briefly and the most critical moment. There was a specific omission. But, with all my responsibility, alas, I was late there.
I lived in another city for several years, and upon my return I found this "picture". Naturally, I scolded my sister and nephew for keeping the problem quiet.
If anything, I don’t blame the doctors for that situation. Although he described a negative image.
Why? I wanted to provoke you. Honestly. Doctors usually stand up for each other. CHTD.
But for the sake of truth, and not for fun.


But, Dragonfly, you are also good at using and blaming (and executing) at the top, without knowing the depth of the process. It’s also not good to eat.
You are not an expert in jurisprudence.
And if you get into my field - philosophy - then you will be very awkward there. But I’m sure you’ll be protected by a medic’s shield there.
But no body - no business.

[Venus]

You have done absolutely nothing for your child. You called the ambulance and now you still have enough conscience to blame someone here, to come up with excuses for yourself.
But you have no excuse and never will.

I described all this briefly and the most critical moment. There was a specific omission. But, with all my responsibility, alas, I was late there.
I lived in another city for several years, and upon my return I found this "picture". Naturally, I scolded my sister and nephew for keeping the problem quiet.
If anything, I don’t blame the doctors for that situation. Although he described a negative image.
Why? I wanted to provoke you. Honestly. Doctors usually stand up for each other. CHTD.
But for the sake of truth, and not for fun.


But, Dragonfly, you are also good at using and blaming (and executing) at the top, without knowing the depth of the process. It’s also not good to eat.
You are not an expert in jurisprudence.
And if you get into my field - philosophy - then you will be very awkward there. But I’m sure you’ll be protected by a medic’s shield there.
But there is no body - there is no case.

The conversation in this particular topic is about killers not due to negligence, not due to an accidental coincidence of circumstances that led to tragedy. Murderers who committed their crimes intentionally are discussed here. That’s why the death penalty is necessary. Without any mitigating circumstances.
Everything is quite logical for an adequate person. The murderer must be punished according to his crime. The killer will not be able to go free and commit a relapse by killing again. For many, the severity of the punishment will be a deterrent and they will think a hundred times before committing murder. Well, there’s no need to feed the killer by spending a lot of taxpayers’ money on him.

[Watchman]

You have done absolutely nothing for your child. You called the ambulance and now you still have enough conscience to blame someone here, to come up with excuses for yourself.
But you have no excuse and never will.

I described all this briefly and the most critical moment. There was a specific omission. But, with all my responsibility, alas, I was late there.
I lived in another city for several years, and upon my return I found this "picture". Naturally, I scolded my sister and nephew for keeping the problem quiet.
If anything, I don’t blame the doctors for that situation. Although he described a negative image.
Why? I wanted to provoke you. Honestly. Doctors usually stand up for each other. CHTD.
But for the sake of truth, and not for fun.


But, Dragonfly, you are also good at using and blaming (and executing) at the top, without knowing the depth of the process. It’s also not good to eat.
You are not an expert in jurisprudence.
And if you get into my field - philosophy - then you will be very awkward there. But I’m sure you’ll be protected by a medic’s shield there.
But there is no body - there is no case.

The conversation in this particular topic is about killers not due to negligence, not due to an accidental coincidence of circumstances that led to tragedy. Murderers who committed their crimes intentionally are discussed here. That’s why the death penalty is necessary. Without any mitigating circumstances.
Everything is quite logical for an adequate person. The murderer must be punished according to his crime. The killer will not be able to go free and commit a relapse by killing again. For many, the severity of the punishment will be a deterrent and they will think a hundred times before committing murder. Well, you don’t have to feed the murderer, spending a lot of taxpayers’ money on him.

all murderers or just murderers of men?

[Venus]

I described all this briefly and the most critical moment. There was a specific omission. But, with all my responsibility, alas, I was late there.
I lived in another city for several years, and upon my return I found this "picture". Naturally, I scolded my sister and nephew for keeping the problem quiet.
If anything, I don’t blame the doctors for that situation. Although he described a negative image.
Why? I wanted to provoke you. Honestly. Doctors usually stand up for each other. CHTD.
But for the sake of truth, and not for fun.


But, Dragonfly, you are also good at using and blaming (and executing) at the top, without knowing the depth of the process. It’s also not good to eat.
You are not an expert in jurisprudence.
And if you get into my field - philosophy - then you will be very awkward there. But I’m sure you’ll be protected by a medic’s shield there.
But there is no body - there is no case.

The conversation in this particular topic is about killers not due to negligence, not due to an accidental coincidence of circumstances that led to tragedy. Murderers who committed their crimes intentionally are discussed here. That’s why the death penalty is necessary. Without any mitigating circumstances.
Everything is quite logical for an adequate person. The murderer must be punished according to his crime. The killer will not be able to go free and commit a relapse by killing again. For many, the severity of the punishment will be a deterrent and they will think a hundred times before committing murder. Well, you don’t have to feed the murderer, spending a lot of taxpayers’ money on him.

all murderers or just murderers of men?

Everyone, regardless of gender and age. From the age of 12. Last year I read how two teenage girls killed their friend. They are 14 years old and probably the sentence will be completely ridiculous, but they killed her ineptly, so for a long time and with particular cruelty. Definitely only execution for such people. And, just last year, teenagers killed a taxi driver so they could go for a ride. Well, we’ve had a ride, now shoot them. These are not people and you shouldn’t feel sorry for them. And you don’t even need to find out who struck how many blows and where, and whose specific blow led to death. This is the biggest miscarriage of justice. In such cases, the entire group must be executed.

[Alice]

These are not people and you shouldn’t feel sorry for them.

The worst thing is that these not people are the result of our upbringing.

[Venus]

These are not people and you shouldn’t feel sorry for them.

The worst thing is that these not people are the result of our upbringing.

No, this is the result of impunity. The punishment does not correspond to the crime and the criminals understand this very well. This topic is about a specific man and he wrote in text messages that he would kill his wife and serve time. They understand that there will be no punishment. Therefore, there is no fear.
Nowadays there is a video circulating online where teenage boys in the locker room, at school, write the word dick on the forehead of another teenager. If he had resisted, he would have been beaten, there are a lot of videos like this.
Why not introduce physical punishment for bastards? So far they haven’t hurt or killed anyone? If they were flogged now, they would think twice before behaving like that next time. But now they will have a conversation with them, maybe they will register them, but this is not a punishment and it doesn’t make them feel warm or cold and they will continue to behave this way, and only then there will be serious bodily harm and murder.

[Watchman]

These are not people and you shouldn’t feel sorry for them.

The worst thing is that these not people are the result of our upbringing.

No, this is the result of impunity. The punishment does not correspond to the crime and the criminals understand this very well. This topic is about a specific man and he wrote in text messages that he would kill his wife and serve time. They understand that there will be no punishment. Therefore, there is no fear.
Nowadays there is a video circulating online where teenage boys in the locker room, at school, write the word dick on the forehead of another teenager. If he had resisted, he would have been beaten, there are a lot of videos like this.
Why not introduce physical punishment for bastards? So far they haven’t hurt or killed anyone? If they were flogged now, they would think twice before behaving like that next time. But now they will have a conversation with them, maybe they will register them, but this is not a punishment and it doesn’t make them feel warm or cold and they will continue to behave this way, and only then there will be serious bodily harm and murder.

or they became more cunning and smarter and began to hide the traces of their atrocities.
If now a girl has a chance of surviving a rape, then in the event of an execution she will be killed to hide the traces.

[Venus]

The worst thing is that these non-humans are the result of our upbringing.

Yes no, this is the result of impunity. The punishment does not correspond to the crime and the criminals understand this very well. This topic is about a specific man and he wrote in text messages that he would kill his wife and serve time. They understand that there will be no punishment. Therefore, there is no fear.
Nowadays there is a video circulating online where teenage boys in the locker room, at school, write the word dick on the forehead of another teenager. If he had resisted, he would have been beaten, there are a lot of videos like this.
Why not introduce physical punishment for bastards? So far they haven’t hurt or killed anyone? If they were flogged now, they would think twice before behaving like that next time. But now they will have a conversation with them, maybe they will register them, but this is not a punishment and it doesn’t make them feel warm or cold and they will continue to behave this way, and only then there will be serious bodily harm and murder.

or they became more cunning and smarter and began to hide traces of their atrocities.
If now a girl has a chance of surviving during rape, then in the event of execution she will be killed to hide traces.

On the contrary. For rape and murder, the punishments are approximately the same, and if there is a death penalty for murder, then the rapist will think a million times before killing. And, at the moment, yes, whether to kill the victim or not to kill, the punishment will be approximately the same. And if you kill, it will be more difficult to find and now rapists become murderers.

[RANGE_]

The murderer must be punished according to his crime. The killer will not be able to go free and commit a relapse by killing again. For many, the severity of the punishment will be a deterrent and they will think a hundred times before committing murder

And if your child (as an adult) commits murder, also "Execute. It is impossible to pardon"?

Despite the severity of the punishment, there will still be murders. To a lesser extent, but they will. Punishment can suppress the will to action, but the desire remains.
An illustrative example is from the film "A Clockwork Orange". But there both the will and the desire were completely beaten off.

[Venus]

The murderer must be punished according to his crime. The killer will not be able to go free and commit a relapse by killing again. For many, the severity of the punishment will be a deterrent and they will think a hundred times before committing murder

And if your child (as an adult) commits murder, also "Execute. It is impossible to pardon"?

Despite the severity of the punishment, there will still be murders. To a lesser extent, but they will. Punishment can suppress the will to action, but the desire remains.
An illustrative example is from the film "A Clockwork Orange". But there, both the will and the desire were completely beaten off.

If my child commits premeditated murder, then he will definitely be executed.
There will be murders, of course, but first of all there will be fewer of them, much fewer. Because most animals that kill so easily do not want to die themselves and will not want to.
And, secondly, those who kill a person will be executed and this will be fair.

[Watchman]

Murder is different from murder.
Each specific case needs to be examined.

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And, secondly, those who kill a person will be executed and this will be fair.

and those who executed murderer, what to do with them... they killed the same thing deliberately.

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If they were flogged now, they would think twice before behaving like that

or get angry and the word x¥y will be cut out on your forehead with a knife.... or beaten secretly without leaving traces.

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Punishment can suppress the will to action, but the desire remains.
An illustrative example is from the film "A Clockwork Orange". But there both the will and the desire were completely beaten off.

I probably agree

[Venus]

Murder is different from murder.
Each specific case needs to be examined.

This topic is a specific case. The case is fresh. I posted a topic from crime news. You could read and watch the news. Everything was there, including the video of the murder itself.
I wrote about this in the starting post and in the topic itself several times, but you apparently didn’t notice it.

And those who executed the murderer, what should we do with them...they also killed intentionally.

You really don’t see the difference between killing a person and the execution of the killer?

or get angry and the word x¥y will be cut out on your forehead with a knife....or beaten secretly without leaving any traces.

Such creatures are cowardly and insignificant in their essence. Whether they get angry or not will not matter. And, if they really do something else, then put him in a cage. Animals should not live next to normal people.

[Watchman]

Do you really not see the difference between killing a person and executing a murderer?

I see the difference, but in both cases there is a murder

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And if there really is something else If they do, they will put him in a cage. Animals should not live next to normal people.

To do this, you need to carry out investigative measures, prove guilt, and choose a punishment - at least in the state of people. As for animals, humans are animals too, aren’t they mushrooms? ))

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nIt was possible to read and watch the news

Not so long ago I myself was faced with how and what is written in the news and therefore, without knowing the true essence, I do not presume to judge.

[Venus]

Do you really not see the difference between killing a person and executing a murderer?

I see the difference, but in both cases there is a murder
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And if indeed If they do anything else, they will put him in a cage. Animals should not live next to normal people.

To do this, you need to carry out investigative measures, prove guilt, and choose a punishment - at least in the state of people. As for animals, humans are animals too, aren’t they mushrooms? ))

Okay. I persuaded him that if they kill you personally and there is a topic here about your murder and they write that the killer was given only seven years, I will definitely write a post that it’s okay. He will serve five years and be released under an amnesty.

[Watchman]

Do you really not see the difference between killing a person and executing the killer?

I see the difference in both cases a murder occurs

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nAnd, if they really do something else, then put him in a cage. Animals should not live next to normal people.

To do this, you need to carry out investigative measures, prove guilt, and choose a punishment - at least in the state of people.
As for animals, humans are animals too, aren’t they mushrooms? ))

Okay. I persuaded him that if they kill you personally and there is a topic here about your murder and they write that the killer was given only seven years, I will definitely write a post that it’s okay. He will serve five years and be released under an amnesty.

ok, but look, if you suddenly stumble somewhere, I will be glad to act as your

[Venus]

Now the news was showing the murder of the cashier’s girlfriend. She was 19, the woman who killed her was 30. The murder took place in a store, under video cameras and in front of witnesses. She attacked from behind. The killer faces up to 20 years in prison.
What we have now. A young girl with her whole life ahead of her was killed. An ambulance and an operating team were involved. For five days doctors fought for the girl’s life. The killer was detained, they are guarding her, they are conducting investigative measures, they will be judged, and then for 20 years, they will feed her, take care of her and protect her. She is not only fed. People who were and will be involved receive a salary. That is, colossal amounts of money are being spent on the killer and will continue to be spent. Why?
They shot me and that was it. It is fair, economical and many will think before killing. Just like that.
And, even if the killer is given 20 years, then by 50 she will be out of prison and will continue to live peacefully. It’s not fair.

[Ded]

Strecoza, Long live the most humane court in the world.. .for this you need to cut your head or quarter it!

[Venus]

Strecoza, Long live the most humane court in the world... for such a thing you need to cut your head or quarter it!

Yes, you are right and this would be the fairest punishment.

[Ded]

Strecoza, But what are you, what are you... But what about humanism... And the fact that this woman may have a child is no longer of interest to anyone! We don’t need such humanism! We need justice! Moreover, such a crime!

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

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[davenant_1]

In our city, too, something similar happened, only the guy hacked him to death with an ax and set the dog on fire right at the bus stop. Tough in general.