Why do many women don’t love or want their men, but still live with them?

[Wolffr]

You are now writing that you didn’t know, but you didn’t communicate with other workers, didn’t ask what and how?

There is no one for you here and He won’t say anything, he has to do everything himself. This is the system, and when I arrived here, everything was stable until I got over the pain, then I had to look for a job. We are bad Russians here, we don’t need money, give us a job and that’s it, but the Germans know this system and don’t want to go to work after school, but go on to study... The systems are completely different: capitalist and socialist...

[The passage]

You are now writing that you didn’t know, but you didn’t communicate with other workers, didn’t ask what and how?

Here No one will tell you anything, you have to do everything yourself. This is the system, and when I arrived here, everything was stable until I got over the pain, then I had to look for a job. We are bad Russians here, we don’t need money, give us a job and that’s it, but the Germans know this system and don’t want to go to work after school, but go on to study... The systems are completely different: capitalist and socialist...

So, be glad that you got to Germany. In Russia you would live many times worse. Ten times I think. Worse in every way. I’m talking about the general standard of living. Not only in terms of salaries.

[Wolffr]

You are now writing that you didn’t know, but you didn’t communicate with other workers, didn’t ask what and how?

Here no one will tell you anything, you have to do everything yourself. This is the system, and when I arrived here, everything was stable until I got over the pain, then I had to look for a job. We are bad Russians here, we don’t need money, give us a job and that’s it, but the Germans know this system and don’t want to go to work after school, but go on to study... The systems are completely different: capitalist and socialist...

So, be glad that you got to Germany. In Russia you would live many times worse. Ten times I think. Worse in every way. I’m talking about the general standard of living. Not only in terms of salaries.

Maybe so, maybe not so..., but there is enough of everything here....
I was working and put on a queue at the dispensary, the turn came, a letter arrived, so and so with this and that, please stop by. I went to the boss, showed him the letter that I had the contract, etc. The boss answered me, are you sick, I was 50 then, I say, for prevention, get examined. He tells me no and that’s it. up to and including dismissal. Then he called me and said this, in general, write a letter of resignation, and after the dispensary, come back and hire me again. Yes, I went, rested, received medical treatment..., I arrived, the boss hired me, but after 4 months I fired him, with the caveat that we don’t need sick people. In Germany, it is very difficult to find a job after 50 years of age.

[The passage]

Here no one will tell you anything, you have to do everything yourself. This is the system, and when I arrived here, everything was stable until I got over the pain, then I had to look for a job. We are bad Russians here, we don’t need money, give us a job and that’s it, but the Germans know this system and don’t want to go to work after school, but go on to study... The systems are completely different: capitalist and socialist...

So, be glad that you got to Germany. In Russia you would live many times worse. Ten times I think. Worse in every way. I’m talking about the general standard of living. Not only in terms of salaries.

Maybe so, maybe not so..., but there is enough of everything here....
I was working and put on a queue at the dispensary, the turn came, a letter arrived, so and so with this and that, please stop by. I went to the boss, showed him the letter that I had the contract, etc. The boss answered me, are you sick, I was 50 then, I say, for prevention, get examined. He tells me no and that’s it. up to and including dismissal. Then he called me and said this, in general, write a letter of resignation, and after the dispensary, come back and hire me again. Yes, I went, rested, received medical treatment..., I arrived, the boss hired me, but after 4 months I fired him, with the caveat that we don’t need sick people. In Germany, after 50 years old it is very difficult to find a job.

Yes, I understand everything, but believe me, you are very lucky. Just believe it and that’s it.

[Arianna]

Mistresses don’t have headaches, and with most love affairs

I think if I married a woman who doesn’t allow something , then you have made your choice, and you either persuade or endure. Marina wrote correctly above, they will find a housekeeper and then go to the left for hot sex, conveniently

I also want to note that if she has a headache and doesn’t want anything, then maybe the wife is so fed up Lay out your socks and cook borscht, so your sex doesn’t bother her at all. A rested and happy woman will not refuse good sex

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Do they earn more as a wet nurse?)

Maybe because your bosses are men and you pay more for certain services?)) Like a massage or stress relief during working hours?))

Nasty greasy hints
Nowadays, never a woman with Didn’t you see the high salary? What kind of position is this, like a woman can only get normal money for intimate services?

[Wolffr]

If you read old books, watch old films, there was no such damnation as now. Men and women have become completely spoiled. Demand makes supply... Previously, she married her husband and that’s it and lives a family life, but there have been cases, but they were isolated. So the men went to the left, but not much. And now what’s going on, all the time... is complete depravity. Young women want the old, but they don’t want him, but his money and vice versa... You can say what you want, but alas, this is 200% true.
Previously, a man supported his family, but now the wife gets more than the man and She also reproaches him for not earning enough. Now there are families, but rarely, who live for 40-50 years together and not some leftists...., where the world is heading...
Soon it will be like this, I gave birth to you and I will kill you.... , but everything is leading to this... Remember the garden and Gamora...

[andrey.petrov]

andrey.petrov: ↑Mistresses don’t have headaches, and with most love affairs
I think that if you married a woman who doesn’t allow something, then you’ve made your choice, and you either persuade or tolerate . Marina wrote correctly above, they will find a housekeeper and then go to the left for hot sex, conveniently

I also want to note that if she has a headache and doesn’t want anything, then maybe the wife is so fed up Lay out your socks and cook borscht, so your sex doesn’t bother her at all. A rested and happy woman will not refuse good sex

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andrey.petrov: ↑Do they earn more as a wet nurse?)
andrey.petrov : ↑Maybe because your bosses are men and they pay extra for certain services?)) Like a massage or stress relief during working hours?))
Nasty greasy hints
In our time, there have never been women with high didn’t see the salary? What kind of position is this, like a woman can only get normal money for intimate services

Oh, how tired you are of loading things into the washing machine and pressing the button
And sometimes I also cook just with pleasure, to give something to please and make a surprise...
And what you earn as a breadwinner, a promotion, etc. then this is a fact!!! Those who know will understand, but whoever moves through life this way will always deny everything and be rude

[Arianna]

And the fact that you earn money as a breadwinner, a promotion, etc. then this is a fact!!! Those who know will understand, but whoever moves through life this way will always deny everything and be rude

Yeah, I see, well, I get more than my man, remotely I’m working, so to whom and how did I slip the wet nurse, can you tell me? Or fell asleep on someone over Wi-Fi maybe?
I discriminate against women who earn money, it’s so childish
I don’t argue about washing, it’s easy, but cooking is another matter, once a week there Cooking with pleasure is one thing, but for the whole family after a working day, and dinner, and taking it to work with you, that’s another thing. You can still give the peasants something fresh, not yesterday’s food, but also put it on a plate and wash all these plates and pots and the stove, otherwise the poor guy is tired. It’s the other side that you don’t always think about. Personally, I’m just getting tired of this, and I don’t have children yet, if I did, then I’d put the guy at home to do “easy things,” I’d go to work myself, and in the evening I’d see if he still wants to fuck or he fucked with household chores. And I repeat - a happy, not tired woman will not excuse herself with a headache, she will put you to bed herself.

[Amateur123]

Arianna,
You know, you and right and wrong, you judge by your temperament, but there are women, as well as men, for whom “tomorrow” is enough, and they don’t have to get tired, and other excuses.

[Aion2012Dead]

Regarding the topic of the post.
This applies to both sexes, many women and men continue to live with each other, for various reasons - the main one is having common children.
If it didn’t reach the children, then most likely it’s economically beneficial .
If we go deeper, it’s just patterned behavior that has been ingrained since childhood.
Traumatized people (and we are all like that) are drawn to such partners.
And to get out of such a circle, you have to try!

[niqk]

Arianna, typical feminist attitude! You don’t need marriage, you don’t need children, you don’t want to do anything at home... And what, I wonder, do you want? What do you do with your non-working time?

[Aion2012Dead]

Arianna,

Give the men something fresh, not yesterday’s, but also put it on a plate and wash all these plates and pots and the stove, otherwise he is tired, poor thing.

These are really mama’s boys or I don’t know . what is this...
It’s okay for him to eat any food that doesn’t smell sour.
It’s okay to wash the plates right away - soak them in water and detergent, let them soak, then whoever wants it first will rinse them off. So, either you have terrible and wrong ideas about relationships, or I think so.

[Arianna]

typically feminist attitude! You don’t need marriage, you don’t need children, you don’t want to do anything at home... And what, I wonder, do you want? What do you do with your non-working time?

Please show me where I write that I don’t want marriage and don’t want children.
I have a child I can and will be there when needed. And if it doesn’t happen, I have the right, they don’t have children to have, you have to sincerely want them
And I have had relationships for many years and they are wonderful, I have a man, thank all the gods, he replaces my best friend and brother and lover I don’t want to do anything at home - but show it to someone who wants to? Is this some kind of fucking interesting activity that all women should be delighted with? Please read in detail about feminism (adequate), there is nothing there about hatred of men and other crap. I consider myself a feminist, but I love and respect normal men, and I have nothing against marriage.
As for my affairs, thank you for asking. I work, read a lot, sometimes work as a makeup artist, I also weave women’s jewelry to order, I play computer games, and at the same time I sometimes learn something new. And I do household chores; it only bothers me that men don’t consider this work at all. However, let’s look at the prices for cleaning, ready-made food and nanny services - and quietly rejoice that there is a wife who is ready to do all this and also work

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So, either you have terrible and wrong ideas about relationships, or I think so.

I wrote there that this happens, I’m not saying that all relationships are like this. These are not my general ideas, but I have met people like this. they want exclusively today’s food, also the first, second and something for dessert, if dumplings, then made with their own hands, and All this must be warmed up and put on a plate, I’m too cool for this apparently)) I was spared this and that’s great.

[niqk]

Arianna, I’m glad for you that you have your own man! I wonder, do you live with him? Or are you
- with your parents, and he with his?
By the way, there are many women who like to run the house. My wife, for example, loves to cook: and
she tries new other people’s recipes and often invents something culinary herself. And he embroiders pictures on the walls - it turns out very
beautifully. And washing the dishes is no problem for me. I value housework, and I help my wife where I can...

[Arianna]

,
You know, you are both right and wrong, you judge by your temperament, and there are women, like men, who will have enough “tomorrow” and don’t have to get tired, and others excuses.

Perhaps)) I would like to know what the reasons are, there are women and men with such a temperament that once a month and then not yet if you kick it, it won’t fly, so to speak but they probably had that kind of temperament before marriage? Why did you get married then?
And if this started over time, and before everything was ok, then I assume that it’s either due to hormones, or being overworked (work, everyday life, or whatever). This means that the person needs to be helped, and if you can’t help, then divorce, or negotiate somehow. I don’t know, it’s a complex topic, very individual, everything is different for everyone, there’s probably no correct answer here

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I’m glad for you that you have your own man! I wonder, do you live with him? Or are you
- with your parents, and he with his?

We live together)
It’s good that you appreciate it, it means your woman is lucky to have you
I also loved to cook and experiment with food, but that was when I lived alone. And when I did it not because I had to and very often, but because I wanted to.
Now, unfortunately, although I cook delicious food, it’s not very varied, and often I really don’t want to do it)) but it just so happens that my boyfriend’s job is physically difficult and I, of course, try so that he can relax

[King Bird]

Do you work at a factory as a turner?

Now I work for myself. But I also once worked in production. And I only chat on the forum. In life, I listen more than I talk, and I walk with my eyes open.

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In Germany, after 50 years, it is very difficult to find a job.

In Russia too. I know a real example, a person was an individual entrepreneur, and for quite a long time, about 15 years, but he did not take the case. A series of crises, 2014, someone cheated, somewhere the duties were raised, etc. I started to find out where and how much to get a job. All employers shy away from former individual entrepreneurs like the plague. The specialty acquired 30 years ago no longer exists in nature. There are only two options: in a taxi with your own car or a security guard in shifts. Moreover, where they promise "a day or two", in fact it turns out to be "a day or two" for the same salary. Another acquaintance went on shifts and earned very decent money. He knocked fifty dollars, they told him in plain text - look for a job closer to home, you still won’t pass medicine. Even if healthy. And there are plenty of such cases. And to go learn to program in Python - well, not everyone’s brains are designed for this.

[niqk]

Arianna, and then it’s not clear why you suddenly brought to feminists? I have friends like this.
So they have a phase shift on such questions! Matriarchy is considered the best option for society. They don’t need partners
but slaves...

[Arianna]

Arianna, but then it’s not clear why you suddenly became involved with feminists? I have friends like this.
So they have a phase shift on such questions! Matriarchy is considered the best option for society. They don’t need partners
but slaves...

I am one of those feminists who, for equal pay, for legal permission to have a typically male profession . I am against domestic violence, stereotypes, for example, as the person above believes that a woman only earns money as a breadwinner. I am against the infringement of women’s rights in some countries, against female circumcision, early forced marriages and the like. It is difficult for Russia to help women in these areas, but I try to at least sign petitions or discuss these issues with friends, so that someday these problems will be solved. Unfortunately, you can’t just go there and tell them that this is not possible.

[niqk]

Arianna, hmm, a typically idealistic approach to life. Suffering for all humanity on a worldwide scale! Isn’t it better to improve your own life? So that all your relatives are just happy - huh?

[Arianna]

Arianna, hmm, a typically idealistic approach to life. Suffering for all humanity on a worldwide scale! Isn’t it better to improve your own life? So that all your relatives are just happy - eh?

I’m not suffering) and my loved ones are fine too, no need to worry about them
And the fact that I don’t care about some phenomena, I think there is nothing bad, I don’t interfere with anyone’s life

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Suffering for all humanity in the world

Who- Some people worry about homeless animals, others worry about abandoned children, I worry about women. And yes, I wish African little girls didn’t have their clitoris cut off, what’s so idealistic about that? It’s simple compassion

[niqk]

Arianna, the main thing is not to interfere with your own life! Usually feminists manage not to make humanity happy, but make themselves unhappy...