Is it possible to live comfortably in your city on a salary of 100 thousand per month?

[Gudgeon]

Imagine if everyone could

It cannot be that everyone can. Everyone has their own limits and internal capabilities. For some, a cashier in the top five is the ceiling for professional growth (I don’t want to offend cashiers; at certain stages of life, this is a good job). Again, everyone has their own circumstances. Some people can work 14 hours, while others’ health does not allow it. Or caring for sick relatives. And they do not have the opportunity to plow like an ox or change their occupation or place of residence. Let’s look at India and China: there, if you were born in a hut in a distant farming province, you’ll either tear your veins or not, you’re unlikely to become a businessman or an astronaut. Because you are busy searching for food and surviving. Therefore, it will not be so that everyone can. Everyone has a different start, life is different.

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And whenever possible, I give it to doctors; if they take it, I don’t consider it something bad.

I don’t consider it something either bad. This is my gratitude for their hard work. Or a fee for a service (when I need it urgently and go to private clinics). Now, by the way, many doctors work, for example, in a clinic and a private clinic at the same time. The state government also has its own benefits, probably all kinds of social assistance. And they get paid for money already in private ones.
But in our city, the head physician of one oncology center was imprisoned for the fact that he promoted cancer patients in line for the necessary services for money. And some didn’t have the money to pay and their turn came later... This is such free medicine
P.S. Hello wife! And let this not happen again!

[Scromnaga]

Scromnaja, but it’s understandable. I can’t, which means no one can. Ok.
By the way, a teacher in a private school can earn more there. If you make it through. Competition cruel.

The point here is not that I can’t, but that almost no one can. You and those who boast about their large income and shame those who write honestly also earn little. We just write as it is, and you are storytellers. Some people have fantasies about horses, while you have fantasies about business and good salaries.
In our country, IT specialists, especially those who write programs, get paid well. But, you are not an IT specialist, and if I ask you about your income, you will not answer or answer very vaguely. Vague because there is no income. This is the same lie as the paramedic who, according to you, receives 150 thousand. There was a time, about ten years ago, when paramedics received 80 in Moscow. Compared to the regional salary of 20, this was good, and the prices at that time were three times lower, and then they cut everything and now they also receive, at best, the same 80, but not 150.
So stop making up fairy tales.

[hello. I don’t hear]

Tell me, can you live without a post office, without doctors, without teachers, because they have a small salary, and you don’t even consider them people?

Listen, don’t talk about small salaries now. from doctors. I go to doctors. I drive my wife and child myself. Every "sneeze" from doctors costs money. You go to an appointment - 1500-3000 consultation and then you get 5 more tests, you come back with them and again a paid consultation. I remember I paid about 100 for childbirth under compulsory medical insurance (for a second). It was stuffed into my pockets. An anesthesiologist - 15, a doctor - 40, then a nurse, + all sorts of paid extras such as a ward, etc. And the doctor is not the only one who attends births on the day... You don’t have to pay, yeah, you can stubbornly wait for an appointment under compulsory medical insurance. And stand in line for some kind of MRI for 2-3 weeks or for an appointment with a specialist. Do you go to dentists? Doctors make good money (good). I’m not against it, I’m even very FOR! A doctor in the entire normal world is one of the highest paid professions. It’s good that we also left poor doctors, otherwise there would have been no one to treat us.
The same song is about teachers - if you are in demand, then they pay normally. At least in Moscow. Wife’s sister Russian and literature teacher there: 100+ (I don’t know exactly how much plus). Let’s go back to doctors - her husband is an ambulance paramedic: 150+. Oops, it turns out it’s working out fine! It’s clear that Moscow is not the whole country. Well, they also arrived. And here they earned much less. But it’s still worthy. It was necessary to earn more - they strained and succeeded. I like this position. And to sit and complain that 30 is not enough and do nothing... this is something wrong.
I won’t say anything about mail. How "Russian Post" works... it’s quiet horror.

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◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊, got it! I thought the permanent man in life. It’s a pity! Well, I wish to find a worthy companion. And don’t be miserly

In the north, too, doctors get accounting records of 30-40 k, under 100 k, junior staff from 25 k.

[Scromnaga]

Tell me, can you live without mail, without doctors, without teachers, they have a small salary, and you don’t even consider them people?

Listen, don’t talk about small salaries now. from doctors. I go to doctors. I drive my wife and child myself. Every "sneeze" from doctors costs money. You go to an appointment - 1500-3000 consultation and then you get 5 more tests, you come back with them and again a paid consultation. I remember I paid about 100 for childbirth under compulsory medical insurance (for a second). It was stuffed into my pockets. An anesthesiologist - 15, a doctor - 40, then a nurse, + all sorts of paid extras such as a ward, etc. And the doctor is not the only one who attends births on the day... You don’t have to pay, yeah, you can stubbornly wait for an appointment under compulsory medical insurance. And stand in line for some kind of MRI for 2-3 weeks or for an appointment with a specialist. Do you go to dentists? Doctors make good money (good). I’m not against it, I’m even very FOR! A doctor in the entire normal world is one of the highest paid professions. It’s good that we also left poor doctors, otherwise there would have been no one to treat us.
The same song is about teachers - if you are in demand, then they pay normally. At least in Moscow. Wife’s sister Russian and literature teacher there: 100+ (I don’t know exactly how much plus). Let’s go back to doctors - her husband is an ambulance paramedic: 150+. Oops, it turns out it’s working out fine! It’s clear that Moscow is not the whole country. Well, they also arrived. And here they earned much less. But it’s still worthy. It was necessary to earn more - they strained and succeeded. I like this position. And to sit and complain that 30 is not enough and do nothing... this is something wrong.
I won’t say anything about mail. How does "Russian Post"... this is quiet horror.

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◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊, Understood! I thought the permanent man in life. It’s a pity! Well, I wish to find a worthy companion. And don’t be miserly

In the north, too, doctors get accounting records of 30-40 kopecks, under 100 kopecks, junior staff from 25 kopecks. n

He has fantasies about big salaries or his job is to tell people fairy tales about milk rivers and jelly banks.

[Gudgeon]

doctors under 100

What was required..., as they say.

almost no one can

Very many people can. In my circle of close friends - almost everyone. Even those who simply lay tiles have 70-80. Because they don’t whine "it’s impossible to earn money honestly", but they take it and work.

if I ask you about your income, you won’t answer or you won’t answer very specifically.

If you take your shoes off, then I wrote above about my income... But I can duplicate it: from 100 to 200 (rarely) depending on how hard I worked. I don’t have a salary, I work for myself. Payment is piecework.
Z.Y. Envy is a bad thing. You are sure that you can’t earn money honestly and write all kinds of nonsense about those who can. But these are just your limitations or your inability. And you are enraged by those who could. I have no goal at all to convince you of anything, I don’t care.

[Scromnaga]

doctors under 100

Which was required..., as they say.

almost no one can

Very many can. In my circle of close friends - almost everyone. Even those who simply lay tiles have 70-80. Because they don’t whine "it’s impossible to earn money honestly", but they take it and work.

if I ask you about your income, you won’t answer or you won’t answer very specifically.

If you take your shoes off, then I wrote above about my income... But I can duplicate it: from 100 to 200 (rarely) depending on how hard I worked. I don’t have a salary, I work for myself. Payment is piecework.
Z.Y. Envy is a bad thing. You are sure that you can’t earn money honestly and write all kinds of nonsense about those who can. But these are just your limitations or your inability. And you are enraged by those who could. I have no goal at all to convince you of anything, I don’t care.

I asked you how you earn, not how much. But this is no longer important.
You write that everyone in your circle knows how to earn money and you give an example of 70-80k and this seems to be good money in your opinion? Is this what they can do? And, I see you are directly proud of your 100.
I have a friend who writes programs. Earns 700k. When I lived in Moscow, I had an income of about 500k. Three years ago it was good money.
And, your 70-80 is also nothing. Better than 40 or 30, but also purely to cover basic needs and no more.
When a person has received an education and comes to work, he should not think about how and where to earn money. He is already working and should receive a decent salary for his work. And then it won’t turn out that the head doctor is imprisoned for bribes, who let cancer patients through out of turn in order to earn money. It won’t turn out that people are poisoned by Cider. Because the owner bought methyl alcohol instead of ethyl alcohol in order to make money. And they sold it from the warehouse of confiscated goods of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in order to make money. And the doctor at the appointment looks at you violetly, because from day to night, from night to day, and on weekends, she works part-time in a private clinic to earn money. And, the teacher teaches poorly and then earns extra money by tutoring students whom he did not teach in order to earn money. And the seller deceives you at the checkout in order to make money. And a mechanic in a car repair shop puts in an old part for you so that you come to him again to make money. And the official takes a kickback and the road is built with violations and ruts appear on the asphalt in order to make money. Examples can be given and given. And the more people try to earn money, the worse we live. Because a person must earn money at work.
I am not enraged by those who could. If you did it honestly. And, specifically, you couldn’t do anything. If you really have the goal of earning money and you treat those who simply work with such disdain, then I can disappoint you. Your earnings and the earnings of your circle look ridiculous. More, of course, than most, but very little for a comfortable life. Less pathos next time and less disregard for others.

[WazzzzzzzUp]

What does it even mean to live comfortably? For some, having a communal apartment and working as a cashier doesn’t bother them, while others are bending over backwards to buy another palace and turn the current one into a guest palace.

[Scromnaga]

live comfortably?

Living comfortably means feeding, clothing, and putting on shoes for yourself and your children without headaches. Pay for classes, treatment, medications, and tutors. Buy a car that you like, but not for which you have enough money. Don’t wait for sales. Relax wherever you want and, of course, not live in a one-room apartment with the whole family, having bought it with a 30-year mortgage.
There is no heaven in a hut and you have to pay for everything in this life.

Communal apartment for someone

Communal apartment does not bother only those who have not lived in it.

[Serg_A]

doctors under 100

What was required..., as they say.

almost no one can

Very many can. In my circle of close friends - almost everyone. Even those who simply lay tiles have 70-80. Because they don’t whine "it’s impossible to earn money honestly", but they take it and work.

if I ask you about your income, you won’t answer or you won’t answer very specifically.

If you take your shoes off, then I wrote above about my income... But I can duplicate it: from 100 to 200 (rarely) depending on how hard I worked. I don’t have a salary, I work for myself. Payment is piecework.
Z.Y. Envy is a bad thing. You are sure that you can’t earn money honestly and write all kinds of nonsense about those who can. But these are just your limitations or your inability. And you are enraged by those who could. I have no goal at all to convince you of anything, I don’t care.

I asked you how you earn, not how much. But this is no longer important.
You write that everyone in your circle knows how to earn money and you give an example of 70-80k and this seems to be good money in your opinion? Is this what they can do? And, I see you are directly proud of your 100.
I have a friend who writes programs. Earns 700k. When I lived in Moscow, I had an income of about 500k. Three years ago it was good money.
And, your 70-80 is also nothing. Better than 40 or 30, but also purely to cover basic needs and no more.
When a person has received an education and comes to work, he should not think about how and where to earn money. He is already working and should receive a decent salary for his work. And then it won’t turn out that the head doctor is imprisoned for bribes, who let cancer patients through out of turn in order to earn money. It won’t turn out that people are poisoned by Cider. Because the owner bought methyl alcohol instead of ethyl alcohol in order to make money. And they sold it from the warehouse of confiscated goods of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in order to make money. And the doctor at the appointment looks at you violetly, because from day to night, from night to day, and on weekends, she works part-time in a private clinic to earn money. And, the teacher teaches poorly and then earns extra money by tutoring students whom he did not teach in order to earn money. And the seller deceives you at the checkout in order to make money. And a mechanic in a car repair shop puts in an old part for you so that you come to him again to make money. And the official takes a kickback and the road is built with violations and ruts appear on the asphalt in order to make money. Examples can be given and given. And the more people try to earn money, the worse we live. Because a person must earn money at work.
I am not enraged by those who could. If you did it honestly. And, specifically, you couldn’t do anything. If you really have the goal of earning money and you treat those who simply work with such disdain, then I can disappoint you. Your earnings and the earnings of your circle look ridiculous. More, of course, than most, but very little for a comfortable life. Less pathos next time and less disregard for others.

Wow, really strong!

[Scromnaga]

Which is required..., as they say. Very many can. In my circle of close friends - almost everyone. Even those who simply lay tiles have 70-80. Because they don’t whine “it’s impossible to earn money honestly,” but they take it and work. If you take your eyes off, then I wrote above about my income... But I can duplicate it: from 100 to 200 (rarely) depending on how I worked a lot. I don’t have a salary, I work for myself. Payment is piecework.
Z.Y. Envy is a bad thing. You are sure that you can’t earn money honestly and write all kinds of nonsense about those who can. But these are just your limitations or your inability. And you are enraged by those who could. I have no goal at all to convince you of anything, I don’t care.

I asked you how you earn, not how much. But this is no longer important.
You write that everyone in your circle knows how to earn money and you give an example of 70-80k and this seems to be good money in your opinion? Is this what they can do? And, I see you are directly proud of your 100.
I have a friend who writes programs. Earns 700k. When I lived in Moscow, I had an income of about 500k. Three years ago it was good money.
And, your 70-80 is also nothing. Better than 40 or 30, but also purely to cover basic needs and no more.
When a person has received an education and comes to work, he should not think about how and where to earn money. He is already working and should receive a decent salary for his work. And then it won’t turn out that the head doctor is imprisoned for bribes, who let cancer patients through out of turn in order to earn money. It won’t turn out that people are poisoned by Cider. Because the owner bought methyl alcohol instead of ethyl alcohol in order to make money. And they sold it from the warehouse of confiscated goods of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in order to make money. And the doctor at the appointment looks at you violetly, because from day to night, from night to day, and on weekends, she works part-time in a private clinic to earn money. And, the teacher teaches poorly and then earns extra money by tutoring students whom he did not teach in order to earn money. And the seller deceives you at the checkout in order to make money. And a mechanic in a car repair shop puts in an old part for you so that you come to him again to make money. And the official takes a kickback and the road is built with violations and ruts appear on the asphalt in order to make money. Examples can be given and given. And the more people try to earn money, the worse we live. Because a person must earn money at work.
I am not enraged by those who could. If you did it honestly. And, specifically, you couldn’t do anything. If you really have the goal of earning money and you treat those who simply work with such disdain, then I can disappoint you. Your earnings and the earnings of your circle look ridiculous. More, of course, than most, but very little for a comfortable life. Less pathos next time and less disregard for others.

Wow, really strong!

Thank you, of course, but
You were offended by me and now you hate me, or you just didn’t recognize me?

[WazzzzzzzUp]

Scromnaja, According to what you described - 100k - generally a penny.

But still, there are different people. I have friends who just need a room and the Internet and are happy with everything. I sincerely don’t understand them. That’s why I decided to ask this clarification question

[niqk]

Scromnaja, your reasoning is very interesting: the asphalt is laid poorly , in order to make money, a car mechanic installs old parts in order to make money, a teacher teaches poorly, and a doctor treats poorly, also in order to make money...
And the result: it’s bad for everyone! Because life is bad for all cheaters, swindlers and tricksters, including! Conclusion:
one must live and work honestly!!! And then life will get better! Although not immediately...
Another problem: how much to earn? Yes, enough to live on! Without big frills, but also without
winning every penny from paycheck to paycheck. And here it is obvious - if there are no crooks, then prices will not bite, and not too large salaries will be enough for a normal life.
And somehow no one looked at all, but what happens to those who were born with a silver spoon in their mouth? They have everything from
birth! And even with a huge excess! They have nothing to wish for and nothing to dream about! And how are they happy?
NOT!!! As a rule, they become drunkards, drug addicts, squander their daddy’s capital... This is a worthless plant
existence... Here they remembered the Hindus... Thus, psychologists’ studies on satisfaction with their lives have shown
that most of all such satisfied in India! Even homeless tramps enjoy life there. Why would
this? :question:

[aryamari]

AlexTDV, Everyone has their own understanding of comfort, and I will repeat on per person or per family (and how many people are there in a family) to own their own home or rent it, there are many nuances?

[Scromnaga]

a room and the Internet are enough and they are satisfied with everything

This is when a person is alone and childish. I have two children.

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Scromnaja, your reasoning is very interesting : they lay bad asphalt in order to make money, a car mechanic installs old parts in order to make money, a teacher teaches poorly, and a doctor treats poorly, also in order to make money...
And the result: it’s bad for everyone! Because life is bad for all cheaters, swindlers and tricksters, including! Conclusion:
one must live and work honestly!!! And then life will get better! Although not immediately...
Another problem: how much to earn? Yes, enough to live on! Without big frills, but also without
winning every penny from paycheck to paycheck. And here it is obvious - if there are no crooks, then prices will not bite, and not too large salaries will be enough for a normal life.
And somehow no one looked at all, but what happens to those who were born with a silver spoon in their mouth? They have everything from
birth! And even with a huge excess! They have nothing to wish for and nothing to dream about! And how are they happy?
NOT!!! As a rule, they become drunkards, drug addicts, squander their daddy’s capital... This is a worthless plant
existence... Here they remembered the Hindus... Thus, psychologists’ studies on satisfaction with their lives have shown
that most of all such satisfied in India! Even homeless tramps enjoy life there. Why would
this? :question:

You don’t have children. If there were, you would understand how to live from paycheck to paycheck.

[WazzzzzzzUp]

Scromnaja, So I’m not telling you how to live. My only statement was that it is difficult to talk about the topic when people’s understanding of comfort is very different.

For example, your understanding of comfort is very close and understandable to me.

[aryamari]

when people’s understanding of comfort is very different.

I fully support the statement

[Serg_A]

I asked you how you earn, not how much. But this is no longer important.
You write that everyone in your circle knows how to earn money and you give an example of 70-80k and this seems to be good money in your opinion? Is this what they can do? And, I see you are directly proud of your 100.
I have a friend who writes programs. Earns 700k. When I lived in Moscow, I had an income of about 500k. Three years ago it was good money.
And, your 70-80 is also nothing. Better than 40 or 30, but also purely to cover basic needs and no more.
When a person has received an education and comes to work, he should not think about how and where to earn money. He is already working and should receive a decent salary for his work. And then it won’t turn out that the head doctor is imprisoned for bribes, who let cancer patients through out of turn in order to earn money. It won’t turn out that people are poisoned by Cider. Because the owner bought methyl alcohol instead of ethyl alcohol in order to make money. And they sold it from the warehouse of confiscated goods of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in order to make money. And the doctor at the appointment looks at you violetly, because from day to night, from night to day, and on weekends, she works part-time in a private clinic to earn money. And, the teacher teaches poorly and then earns extra money by tutoring students whom he did not teach in order to earn money. And the seller deceives you at the checkout in order to make money. And a mechanic in a car repair shop puts in an old part for you so that you come to him again to make money. And the official takes a kickback and the road is built with violations and ruts appear on the asphalt in order to make money. Examples can be given and given. And the more people try to earn money, the worse we live. Because a person must earn money at work.
I am not enraged by those who could. If you did it honestly. And, specifically, you couldn’t do anything. If you really have the goal of earning money and you treat those who simply work with such disdain, then I can disappoint you. Your earnings and the earnings of your circle look ridiculous. More, of course, than most, but very little for a comfortable life. Less pathos next time and less disregard for others.

Wow, really strong!

Thanks, of course, but
You were offended by me and now you hate me, or you just didn’t recognize me?

Oh! Yes, everyone is directly offended at you, you just got used to it. I’m not statistically averagely offended . I love it when your brain comes up with constructive thoughts. Even if you have aggression at the same time, it’s very interesting .

[Scromnaga]

Scromnaja, I’m not saying that how do you like live. My statement was only that it is difficult to talk about the topic when people’s understanding of comfort is very different.

For example, your understanding of comfort is very close and understandable to me.

It is not different. It’s just that when a person doesn’t have money for his own apartment, he rents. If there is no money to rent an apartment, he rents a room, and if there is no money for a room, then he rents a bed. And, of course, he will say that he feels good anyway. What else will he say?
I myself rented a one-room apartment for three. The queues for the toilet, the cramped kitchen and different work schedules made life terrible, but before that I served and was given a room in the barracks. Stove heating, outdoor toilet. The one-room apartment was heaven after the barracks. And, I didn’t complain in principle, but when the opportunity arose, I rented a two-room apartment closer to the center.
People live and endure. Oh, they don’t complain because it won’t change anything. It will only get worse mentally. Although many people may get used to such a life, I don’t really believe in it. You quickly get used to good things, but it’s very difficult to get used to bad things. As for me, this is completely impossible.

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I love it when your brain produces constructive thoughts

My brain always produces constructive thoughts. It’s just that sometimes your resentment clouds your reason.

[Gudgeon]

how do you earn money

Yeah, right now, that’s what I told you! )

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I see that you are directly proud of your 100.

No, I think that this is an average salary. For you this is transcendental and downright utter nonsense, which no one can achieve. Just steal.

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When a person has received an education and comes to work, he should not think about how and where to earn money

Why the fright? He should think about this even when he goes to receive an education. So that later there will be no "no one needs me." If you are going to study to become an elephant ass wiper, you should not be surprised that in a country without elephants you are not needed.

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He is already working and should receive a decent salary for his work.

Who should ? why should he, why on earth should he? Not all labor is in demand, not all labor is highly paid. Are you stuck in a scoop? From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs? Naive

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It won’t turn out that the head doctor is being imprisoned for bribes, who let cancer patients skip the queue in order to earn money. It won’t turn out that people are poisoned by Cider. Because the owner bought methyl alcohol instead of ethyl alcohol in order to make money

It will work out! Why? GREED! human greed is limitless. K. Marx also wrote"There is no crime that capital will not commit for the sake of 300% profit,". This is nono! It will always be!

And, specifically, you couldn’t do anything. If you really have a goal to earn money and you treat those who just work with such disdain

With such disdain, you came up with it all yourself. From the same envy. I have never written that I have a bad attitude towards people who earn less. I have a bad attitude towards people who do not strive for anything. That’s a different story.

[Scromnaga]

how do you earn money

Yeah, right now, that’s what I told you! )

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I see that you are directly proud of your 100.

No, I think that this is an average salary. For you this is transcendental and downright utter nonsense, which no one can achieve. Just steal.

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When a person has received an education and comes to work, he should not think about how and where to earn money

Why the fright? He should think about this even when he goes to receive an education. So that later there will be no "no one needs me." If you are going to study to become an elephant ass wiper, you should not be surprised that in a country without elephants you are not needed.

Your washing is primitive. Very primitive. How can you earn money working for yourself? You tell us stories here. With a head like yours, it’s impossible to earn anything, and if you worked with your hands, you wouldn’t be stuck here. You wouldn’t have time.
Your work, like your earnings, is just a fantasy.

[Gudgeon]

You are speaking primitively. Very primitive.

Sorry, but you are the one who thinks primitively. "you can’t earn money honestly", whoever is rich stole, and is a scoundrel... These are all attitudes of weak personalities and limited thinking.

How can you earn money working for yourself?

I told you exactly that, yeah. In short, I catch those who stole, knowing the schemes of how it’s done. In the field of knowledge in which I am specialized.

Your work, like your earnings, is just a fantasy.

If you sleep better like this today, then so be it. Otherwise you will soon choke on bile

[Scromnaga]

Your washing is primitive. Very primitive.

Sorry, but you are the one who thinks primitively. "you can’t earn money honestly", whoever is rich stole, and is a scoundrel... These are all attitudes of weak personalities and limited thinking.

How can you earn money working for yourself?

I told you exactly that, yeah. In short, I catch those who stole, knowing the schemes of how it’s done. In the field of knowledge in which I am specialized.

Your work, like your earnings, is just a fantasy.

If you sleep better like this today, then so be it. Otherwise you will soon choke on bile

I won’t choke on bile, don’t worry. You are a pensioner, I only realized this now. Therefore, think like this. Maybe once your head worked, but that was a long time ago, and now nothing works and will not work.
They made fun of the schemes and fishing. You have a wild imagination, of course.

[Gudgeon]

niqk, let me shake your hand. everything is to the point. Why are Hindus enjoying life? But because the philosophy there is different and because there is no desire to catch up and overtake the neighbor. Not the capitalist system, not the capitalist worldview more precisely. Survived well, created personal comfort - excellent! For example, I feel great in white plastered and painted walls. I don’t need more, this is my minimum comfort. And the wife needs a surer finish with monograms (conditionally). We have different levels of comfort. On vacation I want a tent and away from bipeds, she wants a 5-star hotel and service. I don’t give a shit about the service, just to be in the middle of nowhere. To each his own.

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You are a pensioner

No, the foundations of the USSR and pensioner’s views on life are just yours. You won’t make money, just steal... It’s hilariously funny Old-timer reasoning from those who couldn’t.
Z.Y. How interesting it is to chat with yet another Marinka account. What prevents you from sitting under yours?

if you worked with your hands, you wouldn’t be stuck here. You would have no time.

Whose cow mooed A person who spends days on the forum, who has written several thousand comments :-D

[Scromnaga]

Gudgeon, Marx and monograms. You left social networks, but you’re stuck here. He wrote about me earlier that I was a teenager, but now that I have the same foundations as in the USSR. You wrote that you have an LLC, and now you’re catching someone))) Cool)))
You lied all over. I also have friends who lay tiles. They receive more than two hundred thousand a month. What can you know as a pensioner about work and salaries?
I will be 31 in August, and I was born when the USSR no longer existed, and do you know what the foundations were there? Even forty-year-olds don’t know what the foundations were there, because they don’t remember. You are old and not distant, and you like to make things up.
Go and rest, storyteller)))

[Gudgeon]

He wrote about me earlier that I am a teenager

That the worldview is like that of a teenager with teenage maximalism. Yes it is, nothing has changed.

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you have an LLC, and now you are catching someone

Can you imagine, this is the same field of activity, because of your narrow outlook don’t see it. I don’t catch, I reveal. It’s called construction control.

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They receive more than two hundred thousand a month

Oh, you see how interesting it is, people work and get paid... And you hang out on the forum and don’t get paid, you just envy and spitting bile 200 is certainly cool for a tiler, if not in Moscow. In Moscow - I can believe it. Or is it a great thing. There are others, I called them myself, 4 hours of work - 20 thousand. And it’s not a pity, I deserve it.

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Go rest

Same to you!

[WazzzzzzzUp]

Such a harmless question and what emotions... Why get on your nerves with strangers?

[Gudgeon]

WazzzzzzUp, who knows. Marinka is like that - she’ll make a shit out of anything Because that’s her whole essence. She comes here for this very reason.

[Scromnaga]

He wrote about me earlier that I am a teenager

That the worldview is like that of a teenager with teenage maximalism. Yes it is, nothing has changed.

Have you decided whether you are a teenager or a pensioner?)))
I didn’t immediately understand that you are a pensioner. We barely communicated on the forum, and I didn’t really follow what you wrote. Now when I saw Marx and the monogram, it suddenly dawned on me, well, the foundations of the USSR confirmed my guess. The puzzle has come together. You’re not on social networks and you haven’t posted any photos of yourself because you’re old and flabby. Something to brag about. You’re sitting here because your wife, after menopause, almost doesn’t need sex, but you want it, so you fuck))))
Well, you imagine teenagers, because at your age, even thirty-year-olds, like teenagers)))) Have a nice evening))))

[Gudgeon]

since I saw Marx

Ha! Those. Are everyone who knows Marx old farts? ) very funny. People are educated and people are not. Some are familiar with something, some are not. Alas.
You are just a troll whose goal is to assert yourself here. You are an expert in demagoguery, there are no questions, you can argue for a long time that a soft dick is better than a hard one, because you can’t gouge out their eyes. But all your pathos is feigned, and the fact that you are trying to insult everyone you meet and cross only shows that you are very unsure of yourself.

Have a nice evening)

And you should rest!

[aryamari]

Why get on your nerves with strangers?

they fight for the truth, but everyone has their own

[Scromnaga]

since I saw Marx

Ha! Those. Are everyone who knows Marx old farts? ) very funny. People are educated and people are not. Some are familiar with something, some are not. Alas.
You are just a troll whose goal is to assert yourself here. You are an expert in demagoguery, there are no questions, you can argue for a long time that a soft dick is better than a hard one, because you can’t gouge out their eyes. But all your pathos is feigned, and the fact that you are trying to insult everyone you meet and cross only shows that you are very insecure.

Have a nice evening)

And you should rest!

Just admit that you are a pensioner and there is no need to make excuses. Admit that there is no LLC, that you don’t catch anyone, that you don’t have a higher education. Why are you fapping here.
You are completely confused with your lies.
The fact that I can justify my point of view, but you cannot, is not trolling. This is not self-affirmation. Where is the trolling, what caught you in a lie that paramedics don’t get 150 thousand? I worked as a doctor in Moscow. I know the salaries. The fact that those who lay tiles get 3 times more than you wrote? The fact that we have low salaries in medicine? The fact that you suddenly turned from an OOO guy into a detective? Where did I troll you?
You just need to think about what you write next time. What did you do before retirement? That’s what you understand, write about it.

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Such a harmless question and what emotions... Why get on your nerves with strangers?

And, you are offering a frank leave the lies unattended. Nowadays on social networks you can often find people dissatisfied that doctors are getting raises, but they are not. They constantly show on TV about raises. They just don’t show how much they get. No one is gaining anything, but thanks to pensioners like these, people really believe in big salaries in medicine. Why did he come up with a paramedic with a salary of 150k? How do you think?

[Gudgeon]

Scromnaja, why would I subscribe to your inventions? As for the higher ones, I have two. It’s not a fact that you have one thing... Your horizons are very limited.
And lastly, you cannot justify your point of view with anything other than insults. Well, with your own nonsense like “a paramedic doesn’t earn 150.” You have no idea how much they earn after Covid. All this is more sad than funny. Anger, envy and bile - that’s all you’re filled with. =215360 time=1686949923 user_id=15251] worked as a doctor in Moscow. I know the salaries.

[Scromnaga]

Scromnaja, why would I be under yours sign with fiction? As for the higher ones, I have two. It’s not a fact that you have one thing... Your horizons are very limited.
And lastly, you cannot justify your point of view with anything other than insults. Well, with your own nonsense like “a paramedic doesn’t earn 150.” You have no idea how much they earn after Covid. All this is more sad than funny. Anger, envy and bile - that’s all you’re filled with. =215360 time=1686949923 user_id=15251] worked as a doctor in Moscow. I know the salaries.

It’s not a fact for a long time. More likely another nonsense for demagoguery. Again - if I was in Moscow and went to the region - well, I worked so badly, I couldn’t resist, I was at the bottom. This rather indicates a lack of the required level. And hence all the bad feelings, envy, bile... As well as self-doubt.
Z.Y. I’ve never been a "detective". But construction control work involves identifying thefts. It’s clear that you don’t know this... from where.

[Gudgeon]

I am a builder by ONE of the educations. But he graduated from economics college. This is a change of direction. There are a ton of economists in this country, and most of them are useless. I didn’t want to be one of them.
Z.Y, You can be sure that I’m at least 150 years old, I don’t care. All the same, you have come up with arguments, only empty talk remains (that’s all you are, in general).

[Scromnaga]

I am a builder in ONE of the formations. But he graduated from economics college. This is a change of direction. There are a ton of economists in this country, and most of them are useless. I didn’t want to be one of them.
Z.Y, You can be sure that I’m at least 150 years old, I don’t care. All the same, you have come up with arguments, only empty talk remains.

)
I want to upset you. College is not higher education)))
Marx, USSR, monograms, nonsense and empty talk))) You really talk like my grandfather. He is already over 70)))

[Cujoi]

My salary is 100 and in fact this is pennies for Moscow. 100 rubles was in 2007, then two people could live more or less normally. And now to be happy you need 224 thousand a month

[Gudgeon]

I want to upset you. College is not higher education

college was then called secondary education. like 9-11th grade school. The highest came later. you would understand if you read carefully.

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Cujoi, not Tell Marinka, she’ll call you a thief right now. 100 no one can earn honestly, just steal )

[Scromnaga]

I want to upset you. College is not higher education

college was then called secondary education. School grades 9-11. The higher education came later.

You apparently confused it with the lyceum - this is a school))) College is a secondary vocational education))))

[Cujoi]

I work honestly, I’m just a very lazy person and it would be five times more

[Gudgeon]

secondary vocational education

Yes, it is. after 9th grade. I wrote this to you. And then - to higher education. By the way, in the 90s this whole classification was a little undeveloped, and lyceums were called colleges, and it was considered the same thing. Order was restored after the 2000s

[TannaT]

I worked for a month and a half at an enterprise in the field of mechanical and metal processing: creating a model from a drawing, writing a program for a CNC machine, conducting the processing process on the machine (parts of sizes from 10x10cm to 2x4 meters). Total: 45,000
Question to the Chief: Why so little?
Answer: Anyone can press buttons, we need a professional.
Fuck, they needed an ORCHESTRA man, damn it.
I paid it off yesterday.

[Gudgeon]

I work honestly

no-no-no. you earn 100, that means you are stealing!

[Scromnaga]

secondary vocational education

Yes, it is. after 9th grade. I wrote this to you. And after that - to higher education

And you considered that you have two of them? Higher ones?)))) It’s fun with you))))

[aryamari]

Marx, USSR, monograms, nonsense and empty talk))) You really talk like my grandfather. He is already over 70)))

I probably don’t agree, my husband is still 20 years or so away from retirement, but he knows about Marx and Stalin, he has several T-shirts with them he has other communist stuff and likes different things about the USSR

and even I know about nonsense when he says

-nonsense
you need to answer - that’s nonsense for you)) this is from an old movie)

here

[Gudgeon]

TannaT, it’s sad when people don’t understand how difficult it is train for a similar profession. But that’s okay, I think you’ll find a better place!

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And you considered that you have two of them? Higher ones?)))) It’s fun with you))))

Yeah. Think about it, I did the math. Because I studied full-time and part-time at the university. And I have two higher education diplomas in my closet. Where is it written in black and white? And this has nothing to do with college. It was AFTER. In total, I spent 7 years on them (taking into account that there were 6 years and 3.5 in parallel).

[Scromnaga]

TannaT, it’s sad when people They don’t understand how difficult it is to train for such a profession. But that’s okay, I think you’ll find a better place!

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And you considered that you have two of them? Higher ones?)))) It’s fun with you))))

Yeah. Think about it, I did the math. Because I studied full-time and part-time at the university. And I have two higher education diplomas in my closet. Where is it written in black and white? And this has nothing to do with college. It was AFTER. In total, I spent 7 years on them (taking into account that there were 6 years and 3.5 in parallel).

Yeah) In person and in absentia that means)) ) Why haven’t you received the third one yet?)))) Do you have any academic titles?))) Let’s tell you further)))) Did you probably defend your doctorate or just your candidate’s thesis?))))

[TannaT]

Is this a Forum on the topic of His Majesty Sex or where?

[Gudgeon]

Why haven’t you received the third one yet?)))) Do you have academic titles?)))

Didn’t defend it. I dropped out of graduate school. because I didn’t finish my PhD thesis. I didn’t get the third because I was fed up with two, so I didn’t go to graduate school. Tired. I wouldn’t be a scientist; I didn’t see the point in straining myself further. Yes, and money was needed. That’s it in short. Sometimes I regret it, but I have no desire to return to it.

is it a Forum on the topic of His Majesty Sex or where?

Well it’s kind of like a chat... about everything.

[TannaT]

Gudgeon, Don’t push yourself, Friend. This is a cool vibe.
Thank you for your support.
How old I am...)))

[Cujoi]

Oh, my mother told me, study your son, you will become a man and I am in three classes of the parish and then in the corridor