Marinka: 18 Aug 2023, 09:50
I understand that when it comes to rapists, you try everything on yourself.
You are mistaken. I have already written that to some (even a large) extent I agree with you on this issue. It may be clumsy, but I’m trying to say that not everything is so simple and you shouldn’t jump straight away.
If there is concrete evidence, then punishment of a higher degree is appropriate if the court considers it so. But I don’t know about you, but, alas, I live in a world that is far from ideal, where people bend the laws as they want and do what they want. Unfortunately, I have experience with such individuals in fairly high positions, and at work I have to communicate with them often. I’m afraid that if your idea is put into practice, it will simply begin to legally shut the mouths of all those objectionable in the most effective way, for which nothing will happen to anyone. And then people like you or me will sit and think that they wanted the best...
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[quote=Marinka post_id=244461 time=1692377443 user_id=12161] I understand that when it comes to rapists, you try everything on yourself. [/quote]
You are mistaken. I have already written that to some (even a large) extent I agree with you on this issue. It may be clumsy, but I’m trying to say that not everything is so simple and you shouldn’t jump straight away. If there is concrete evidence, then punishment of a higher degree is appropriate if the court considers it so. But I don’t know about you, but, alas, I live in a world that is far from ideal, where people bend the laws as they want and do what they want. Unfortunately, I have experience with such individuals in fairly high positions, and at work I have to communicate with them often. I’m afraid that if your idea is put into practice, it will simply begin to legally shut the mouths of all those objectionable in the most effective way, for which nothing will happen to anyone. And then people like you or me will sit and think that they wanted the best...
Marinka: 18 Aug 2023, 09:50
I understand that when it comes to rapists, you try everything on yourself.
You are wrong. I have already written that to some (even a large) extent I agree with you on this issue. It may be clumsy, but I’m trying to say that not everything is so simple and you shouldn’t jump straight away.
If there is concrete evidence, then punishment of a higher degree is appropriate if the court considers it so. But I don’t know about you, but, alas, I live in a world that is far from ideal, where people bend the laws as they want and do what they want. Unfortunately, I have experience with such individuals in fairly high positions, and at work I have to communicate with them often. I’m afraid that if your idea is put into practice, it will simply begin to legally shut the mouths of all those objectionable in the most effective way, for which nothing will happen to anyone. And then people like you or me will sit and think that they wanted the best...
Well, I wrote exactly about those who actually raped. What kind of punishment do they deserve, well, the fact that we have problems with laws that are not for everyone, and the laws themselves are very imperfect is a fact.
Well, in general, I want to reach out to men. So that they do not perceive violence as something so frivolous. They did not take refusal as a personal insult.
Women are also different, including the same criminals as men who manipulate sex and use it for selfish purposes. But, if a man is refused, then he should control himself. Treat it like a tasty treat in the window of a closed store. You won’t break a window because of this, will you? Well, I want to, well, it may be offensive, but this is not a rupture of the aorta.
I have two sons growing up. I have been explaining to them since childhood that girls should not be offended. Even if she is harmful and disgusting and may even deserve it. She is a girl, and they are future men.
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Byutiful: 18 Aug 2023, 10:09
It is impossible to do without a thorough investigation
The human factor plays a big role everywhere. An unbiased, neutral attitude is rare. There will be sympathy in one direction and, accordingly, antipathy in the other direction.
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[quote=WazzzzzzUp post_id=244467 time=1692378956 user_id=19026] [quote=Marinka post_id=244461 time=1692377443 user_id= 12161] I understand that when it comes to rapists, you try everything on yourself. [/quote]
You are wrong. I have already written that to some (even a large) extent I agree with you on this issue. It may be clumsy, but I’m trying to say that not everything is so simple and you shouldn’t jump straight away. If there is concrete evidence, then punishment of a higher degree is appropriate if the court considers it so. But I don’t know about you, but, alas, I live in a world that is far from ideal, where people bend the laws as they want and do what they want. Unfortunately, I have experience with such individuals in fairly high positions, and at work I have to communicate with them often. I’m afraid that if your idea is put into practice, it will simply begin to legally shut the mouths of all those objectionable in the most effective way, for which nothing will happen to anyone. And then people like you or me will sit and think that they wanted the best... [/quote]
Well, I wrote exactly about those who actually raped. What kind of punishment do they deserve, well, the fact that we have problems with laws that are not for everyone, and the laws themselves are very imperfect is a fact. Well, in general, I want to reach out to men. So that they do not perceive violence as something so frivolous. They did not take refusal as a personal insult. Women are also different, including the same criminals as men who manipulate sex and use it for selfish purposes. But, if a man is refused, then he should control himself. Treat it like a tasty treat in the window of a closed store. You won’t break a window because of this, will you? Well, I want to, well, it may be offensive, but this is not a rupture of the aorta. I have two sons growing up. I have been explaining to them since childhood that girls should not be offended. Even if she is harmful and disgusting and may even deserve it. She is a girl, and they are future men.
[size=85][color=green]Sent after 3 hours 1 minute 26 seconds:[/color][/size] [quote=Byutiful post_id=244466 time=1692378572 user_id =13338] It is impossible to do without a thorough investigation [/quote]
The human factor plays a big role everywhere. An unbiased, neutral attitude is rare. There will be sympathy in one direction and, accordingly, antipathy in the other direction.
I don’t know, I just don’t understand how you can do this by force. Perhaps spoiled by female attention. I don’t understand what you need to have in your head to take by force.
Although many times in my youth I encountered this "oh, what are you doing, I’m not like that... well, okay, good, God, so good...." .
But, I agree. You need to be able to distinguish this.
Many women become, in my opinion, victims of assholes who were misled by dynamic women.
At the same time, any violence must be punishable
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I don’t know, I just don’t understand how you can do this by force. Perhaps spoiled by female attention. I don’t understand what you need to have in your head to take by force.
Although many times in my youth I encountered this "oh, what are you doing, I’m not like that... well, okay, good, God, so good...." .
But, I agree. You need to be able to distinguish this.
Many women become, in my opinion, victims of assholes who were misled by dynamic women.
Marinka: 18 Aug 2023, 13:37
I have two sons growing up. I’ve been explaining to them since childhood that girls shouldn’t be offended
You’re the one who’s the most gay! When they grow up and face the harsh reality, they will understand that Russia has always relied on men and a man works all his life to solve problems caused by the female gender! (You immediately educate them that a woman is for childbirth, sex pleasures and cooking food) Man power!
[quote=Marinka post_id=244469 time=1692391027 user_id=12161] I have two sons growing up. I’ve been explaining to them since childhood that girls shouldn’t be offended [/quote]You’re the one who’s the most gay! When they grow up and face the harsh reality, they will understand that Russia has always relied on men and a man works all his life to solve problems caused by the female gender! (You immediately educate them that a woman is for childbirth, sex pleasures and cooking food) Man power!
In fact, it is a very controversial issue, especially taking into account our laws. There is no need to wait for a fair trial.
If it is purely factual - that there is a scoundrel and a rapist, then I am only FOR!
But here, after all, not so.
If Lolya sees your penis, just sees it - and she is under 12 years old, then consider that you raped her.
It’s not even worth getting jailed for this, much less accused of rape!
As a compromise - for repeating rape - you can and should castrate.
And it’s better to kill right away.
In fact, it is a very controversial issue, especially taking into account our laws. There is no need to wait for a fair trial. If it is purely factual - that there is a scoundrel and a rapist, then I am only FOR! But here, after all, not so. If Lolya sees your penis, just sees it - and she is under 12 years old, then consider that you raped her. It’s not even worth getting jailed for this, much less accused of rape! As a compromise - for repeating [ url=viewtopic.php?t=7165]rape[/url] - you can and should castrate. And it’s better to kill right away.
)))) My God, where did yesterday’s reasonable, sweet man with whom I fell in love go?))) Did you dream that you were an alpha male?))) I’m already in awe)))
wiginmakgreger: 18 Aug 2023, 20:00
and a man works all his life to solve problems caused by the female gender! (you immediately educate them like a woman for childbirth , sex pleasures and cooking food)
How interesting and what problems caused by your wife have you already solved, and which ones are in the process and at the final stage of solution? And how many children do you have with her? You have it for childbirth and creating problems that you solve))))
Don’t worry, you can’t raise gays. They are born. Well, living with respect for the female sex, they will never lose their face, will be men and will avoid many problems.
THREE Men are conventionally divided into three main types. These are neo-traditionalists. Which you wrote about. Patriarchal. They provide for the family themselves; they don’t like it when a woman develops and has career growth. They love her to be completely dependent on them, to sit at home, raise the children and cook cabbage soup. He is the head of the family, the breadwinner, the leader, the alpha. My dad is like that. My mother only worked before marriage. After marriage, she even dropped out of university and lives quietly, spending all day on the Internet. But she raised and raised us, her children. There are few such families in my surroundings. They say that in such families the will of a woman is suppressed. I wouldn’t say that. The will is suppressed when a man is an abuser. When an alpha man is a fortress.
The second type is egalitarian men. They are for"equality". Ideally, both spouses develop. And, with us, they just need the wife to work, and they usually don’t mind if she earns more, but they also consider household chores to be the wife’s concern, out of habit. They have lopsided equality and I think this guy is faking. When a woman realizes that they are dealing with a parasite.
Well, the third type is progressive. Family directors. They are for the distribution of roles in the family. In my opinion, the nicest guy.
Although all three types have pros and cons, and it depends on who you like, or I would say, depending on your luck.
[quote=wiginmakgreger post_id=244564 time=1692414002 user_id=17464] Man is strong! [/quote]
)))) My God, where did yesterday’s reasonable, sweet man with whom I fell in love go?))) Did you dream that you were an alpha male?))) I’m already in awe)))
[quote=wiginmakgreger post_id=244564 time=1692414002 user_id=17464] and a man works all his life to solve problems caused by the female gender! (you immediately educate them like a woman for childbirth , sex pleasures and cooking food) [/quote]
How interesting and what problems caused by your wife have you already solved, and which ones are in the process and at the final stage of solution? And how many children do you have with her? You have it for childbirth and creating problems that you solve))))
[quote=wiginmakgreger post_id=244564 time=1692414002 user_id=17464] You are one of them gay Rostish [/quote]
Don’t worry, you can’t raise gays. They are born. Well, living with respect for the female sex, they will never lose their face, will be men and will avoid many problems.
THREE Men are conventionally divided into three main types. These are neo-traditionalists. Which you wrote about. Patriarchal. They provide for the family themselves; they don’t like it when a woman develops and has career growth. They love her to be completely dependent on them, to sit at home, raise the children and cook cabbage soup. He is the head of the family, the breadwinner, the leader, the alpha. My dad is like that. My mother only worked before marriage. After marriage, she even dropped out of university and lives quietly, spending all day on the Internet. But she raised and raised us, her children. There are few such families in my surroundings. They say that in such families the will of a woman is suppressed. I wouldn’t say that. The will is suppressed when a man is an abuser. When an alpha man is a fortress. The second type is egalitarian men. They are for"equality". Ideally, both spouses develop. And, with us, they just need the wife to work, and they usually don’t mind if she earns more, but they also consider household chores to be the wife’s concern, out of habit. They have lopsided equality and I think this guy is faking. When a woman realizes that they are dealing with a parasite. Well, the third type is progressive. Family directors. They are for the distribution of roles in the family. In my opinion, the nicest guy. Although all three types have pros and cons, and it depends on who you like, or I would say, depending on your luck.
[quote=Rasrom post_id=244367 time=1692355946 user_id=7703] Deprivation of liberty [/quote]nonsense! This doesn’t work
[size=85] [color=green]Sent after 44 seconds:[/color][/size] [quote=Rasrom post_id=244367 time=1692355946 user_id=7703] Payments compensation. Prohibitions on being in certain places [/quote]and this is generally nonsense! Who ever stopped it!!!
[size=85][color=green]Sent after 3 seconds:[/color][/size] [quote=Rasrom post_id=244367 time=1692355946 user_id=7703] Payments of compensation. Prohibitions on being in certain places [/quote]and this is generally nonsense! Who ever stopped that!!!
[quote=Ar.t post_id=244640 time=1692434374 user_id= 19510] [quote=Rasrom post_id=244367 time =1692355946 user_id=7703] Deprivation of liberty [/quote]nonsense! This doesn’t work [/quote]
Rasrom: 18 Aug 2023, 03:52
In short, there are a lot of restrictions that make it impossible for a criminal to relapse, and in addition force him to bear the punishment corresponding to his guilt.
yes, there are no such restrictions about what you say!!!
[quote=Rasrom post_id=244367 time=1692355946 user_id=7703] In short, there are a lot of restrictions that make it impossible for a criminal to relapse, and in addition force him to bear the punishment corresponding to his guilt. [/quote]yes, there are no such restrictions about what you say!!!
[size=85][color=green]Sent after 30 seconds:[/color][/size] [quote=Rasrom post_id=244641 time=1692434438 user_id=7703] There is no other way. [/quote]That’s why we say that something drastic is needed....
[size=85][color=green]Sent after 16 seconds: [/color][/size] [quote=Rasrom post_id=244641 time=1692434438 user_id=7703] It doesn’t happen otherwise. [/quote]that’s why we say that something drastic is needed....
Rasrom: 18 Aug 2023, 03:52
In short, there are a lot of restrictions that make it impossible for a criminal to relapse, and in addition force him to bear the punishment corresponding to his guilt.
yes there are no such restrictions what are you talking about!!!
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Rasrom: 19 Aug 2023, 01:40
It doesn’t happen otherwise.
That’s why we say that something drastic is needed....
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Rasrom: 19 Aug 2023, 01:40
It doesn’t happen otherwise.
this is why we say that something drastic is needed....
Civilization consists of , so as not to take drastic measures, but to be satisfied with those that exist.
[quote=Ar.t post_id=244642 time=1692434625 user_id= 19510] [quote=Rasrom post_id=244367 time =1692355946 user_id=7703] In short, there are a lot of restrictions that make it impossible for a criminal to relapse, and in addition force him to bear the punishment corresponding to his guilt. [/quote]yes there are no such restrictions what are you talking about!!!
[size=85][color=green]Sent after 30 seconds:[/color][/size] [quote=Rasrom post_id=244641 time=1692434438 user_id=7703] It doesn’t happen otherwise. [/quote]That’s why we say that something drastic is needed....
[size=85][color=green] Sent after 16 seconds:[/color][/size] [quote=Rasrom post_id=244641 time=1692434438 user_id=7703] It doesn’t happen otherwise. [ /quote]this is why we say that something drastic is needed.... [/quote]
Civilization consists of , so as not to take drastic measures, but to be satisfied with those that exist.
[quote=Rasrom post_id=244662 time=1692437611 user_id=7703] Civilization consists in not taking drastic measures, but being satisfied with what is available. [/quote]bullshit! When a woman or girl is raped, is it civilized!? Or when a child’s life is spoiled by preoccupied fagots, is this civility!?
Anorgasmia: 19 Aug 2023, 02:47
And if the rapist turned out to be not a rapist at all, but a victim? To be fair, the same punishment, only towards the girl, I suppose
[quote=Anorgasmia post_id=244670 time=1692438444 user_id=1] And if the rapist turned out to be not a rapist at all, but a victim? To be fair, the same punishment, only towards the girl, I suppose :yes: [/quote]
[quote=Ar.t post_id=244664 time=1692437809 user_id= 19510] [quote=Rasrom post_id=244662 time =1692437611 user_id=7703] Civilization consists in not taking drastic measures, but being satisfied with what is available. [/quote]bullshit! When a woman or girl is raped, is it civilized!? Or when a child’s life is spoiled by preoccupied pedophiles, is this civilization!? [/quote]
Civilization extends to criminals too. This is how we differ from savages and barbarians
Wild Eskimo: 19 Aug 2023, 02:53
And if the rapist turned out to be not a rapist at all, but a victim? To be fair, the same punishment, only towards the girl, I suppose
You already posted this message above , without logging into your account and I answered you there above.
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[quote="Wild Eskimo" post_id=244675 time=1692438818 user_id=20130] And if the rapist turned out to be not a rapist at all, but a victim? To be fair, the same punishment, only towards the girl, I suppose :yes: [/quote]
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Rasrom: 19 Aug 2023, 03:18
We need to remain civilized not for them, but for ourselves.
Is it when you turn your right cheek when you were hit on the left? And so on, one by one, until you are beaten to death?
This is not civilization. This is manipulation of people. They rape and kill us, and we are like a flock of sheep before the wolves. Wolves are very comfortable in this situation. They are not only full, they also convinced us that this is normal.
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[quote=Rasrom post_id=244685 time=1692440310 user_id=7703] We need to remain civilized not for them, but for ourselves. [/quote]
Is it when you turn your right cheek when you were hit on the left? And so on, one by one, until you are beaten to death? This is not civilization. This is manipulation of people. They rape and kill us, and we are like a flock of sheep before the wolves. Wolves are very comfortable in this situation. They are not only full, they also convinced us that this is normal.
Rasrom: 19 Aug 2023, 02:50
Civilization extends to criminals too.
This is how we differ from savages and barbarians
in this matter I think you need to be barbarians and savages , and also monsters and show maximum cruelty towards these people! I would actually give them up to be torn apart by the crowd!!!
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[quote=Rasrom post_id=244672 time=1692438648 user_id=7703] Civilization extends to criminals too. This is how we differ from savages and barbarians [/quote]in this matter I think you need to be barbarians and savages , and also monsters and show maximum cruelty towards these people! I would actually give them up to be torn apart by the crowd!!!
Rasrom: 19 Aug 2023, 03:18
We need to remain civilized not for them, but for ourselves.
This is when you turn your right cheek when you were hit on the left ? And so on, one by one, until you are beaten to death?
This is not civilization. This is manipulation of people. They rape and kill us, and we are like a flock of sheep before the wolves. Wolves are very comfortable in this situation. They are not only well-fed, they also convinced us that this is normal.
No, you don’t need to substitute anything.
Just follow the rules, developed over centuries of human development, and not mentally fall into the Middle Ages.
Rasrom: 19 Aug 2023, 02:50
Civilization extends to criminals too.
This is how we differ from savages and barbarians
in this matter, I think you need to be barbarians and savages, and also monsters, and show maximum cruelty towards these people! In general, I would give them up to be torn apart by the crowd!!!
Following your animal vindictive instincts is terrible and disgusting
[quote=Marinka post_id=244692 time=1692441993 user_id=12161] [quote=Rasrom post_id=244685 time=1692440310 user_id= 7703] We need to remain civilized not for them, but for ourselves. [/quote]
This is when you turn your right cheek when you were hit on the left ? And so on, one by one, until you are beaten to death? This is not civilization. This is manipulation of people. They rape and kill us, and we are like a flock of sheep before the wolves. Wolves are very comfortable in this situation. They are not only well-fed, they also convinced us that this is normal. [/quote]
No, you don’t need to substitute anything. Just follow the rules, developed over centuries of human development, and not mentally fall into the Middle Ages.
[size=85][color=green]Sent after 57 seconds:[/color][/size] [quote=Ar.t post_id=244697 time=1692443310 user_id=19510] [quote= Rasrom post_id=244672 time=1692438648 user_id=7703] Civilization extends to criminals too. This is how we differ from savages and barbarians [/quote]in this matter, I think you need to be barbarians and savages, and also monsters, and show maximum cruelty towards these people! In general, I would give them up to be torn apart by the crowd!!! [/quote]
Following your animal vindictive instincts is terrible and disgusting🤮
Rasrom: 19 Aug 2023, 04:26
Following your animal vengeful instincts is terrible and disgusting
but lives are crippled!! Girls, girls, then they have to live with these all their lives, did someone think about them!!?? No, we do not accept animal instincts!!!
[quote=Rasrom post_id=244699 time=1692444415 user_id=7703] Following your animal vengeful instincts is terrible and disgusting [/quote]but lives are crippled!! Girls, girls, then they have to live with these all their lives, did someone think about them!!?? No, we do not accept animal instincts!!!
Rasrom: 19 Aug 2023, 04:26
Following your animal vengeful instincts is terrible and disgusting
but definitely, but lives are crippled!! Girls, girls, then they have to live with these all their lives, did someone think about them!!?? No, we do not accept animal instincts!!!
Gunism in punishing the criminal gives nothing to the victim. It does not revive the dead and does not restore health to the crippled.
It only spreads anger and savagery.
I don’t like Lenin, but he also has the right idea: "It is not the cruelty of punishment that is important, but its inevitability" ( c)
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[quote=Ar.t post_id=244723 time=1692452892 user_id= 19510] [quote=Rasrom post_id=244699 time =1692444415 user_id=7703] Following your animal vengeful instincts is terrible and disgusting [/quote]but definitely, but lives are crippled!! Girls, girls, then they have to live with these all their lives, did someone think about them!!?? No, we do not accept animal instincts!!! [/quote]
Gunism in punishing the criminal gives nothing to the victim. It does not revive the dead and does not restore health to the crippled. It only spreads anger and savagery. I don’t like Lenin, but he also has the right idea: "It is not the cruelty of punishment that is important, but its inevitability" ( c)☝️
Rasrom: 19 Aug 2023, 03:18
We need to remain civilized not for them, but for ourselves.
This is when you turn your right cheek, when did you get hit on the left? And so on, one by one, until you are beaten to death?
This is not civilization. This is manipulation of people. They rape and kill us, and we are like a flock of sheep before the wolves. Wolves are very comfortable in this situation. They are not only well-fed, they also convinced us that this is normal.
No, you don’t need to substitute anything.
Just follow the rules, developed over centuries of human development, and not mentally fall into the Middle Ages.
Rasrom: 19 Aug 2023, 02:50
Civilization extends to criminals too.
This is how we differ from savages and barbarians
in this matter, I think you need to be barbarians and savages, and also monsters, and show maximum cruelty towards these people! In general, I would give them up to be torn apart by the crowd!!!
Following your animal vindictive instincts is terrible and disgusting
And, putting in prison is not cruel and not barbaric ? Maybe let them walk free?
[quote=Rasrom post_id=244699 time=1692444415 user_id=7703] [quote=Marinka post_id=244692 time=1692441993 user_id= 12161] [quote=Rasrom post_id=244685 time =1692440310 user_id=7703] We need to remain civilized not for them, but for ourselves. [/quote]
This is when you turn your right cheek, when did you get hit on the left? And so on, one by one, until you are beaten to death? This is not civilization. This is manipulation of people. They rape and kill us, and we are like a flock of sheep before the wolves. Wolves are very comfortable in this situation. They are not only well-fed, they also convinced us that this is normal. [/quote]
No, you don’t need to substitute anything. Just follow the rules, developed over centuries of human development, and not mentally fall into the Middle Ages.
[size=85][color=green]Sent after 57 seconds:[/color][/size] [quote=Ar.t post_id=244697 time=1692443310 user_id=19510] [quote= Rasrom post_id=244672 time=1692438648 user_id=7703] Civilization extends to criminals too. This is how we differ from savages and barbarians [/quote]in this matter, I think you need to be barbarians and savages, and also monsters, and show maximum cruelty towards these people! In general, I would give them up to be torn apart by the crowd!!! [/quote]
Following your animal vindictive instincts is terrible and disgusting🤮 [/quote]
And, putting in prison is not cruel and not barbaric ? Maybe let them walk free?
Marinka: 19 Aug 2023, 03:46
Is this when you turn your right cheek when you were hit on the left? And so on, one by one, until you are beaten to death?
This is not civilization. This is manipulation of people. They rape and kill us, and we are like a flock of sheep before the wolves. Wolves are very comfortable in this situation. They are not only well-fed, they also convinced us that this is normal.
No, you don’t need to substitute anything.
Just follow the rules, developed over centuries of human development, and not mentally fall into the Middle Ages.
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Ar.t: 19 Aug 2023, 04:08
in this matter, I think you need to be barbarians and savages, and also monsters and show maximum cruelty towards these people! In general, I would give them up to be torn apart by the crowd!!!
Following your animal vindictive instincts is terrible and disgusting
And, putting in prison is not cruel and not barbaric ? Maybe let them walk free?
No, this is not barbarism.
And why free??
Any crime should entail punishment. The question is - WHAT
Is this when you turn your right cheek when you were hit on the left? And so on, one by one, until you are beaten to death? This is not civilization. This is manipulation of people. They rape and kill us, and we are like a flock of sheep before the wolves. Wolves are very comfortable in this situation. They are not only well-fed, they also convinced us that this is normal. [/quote]
No, you don’t need to substitute anything. Just follow the rules, developed over centuries of human development, and not mentally fall into the Middle Ages.
[size=85][color=green]Sent after 57 seconds:[/color][/size] [quote=Ar.t post_id=244697 time=1692443310 user_id=19510] in this matter, I think you need to be barbarians and savages, and also monsters and show maximum cruelty towards these people! In general, I would give them up to be torn apart by the crowd!!! [/quote]
Following your animal vindictive instincts is terrible and disgusting🤮 [/quote]
And, putting in prison is not cruel and not barbaric ? Maybe let them walk free? [/quote]
No, this is not barbarism. And why free?? Any crime should entail punishment. The question is - WHAT☝️
Rasrom: 19 Aug 2023, 04:26
No, you don’t need to substitute anything.
Just follow the rules developed over centuries of human development, and don’t mentally fall into the Middle Ages.
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Following your animal vengeful instincts is terrible and disgusts
Ah, plant Isn’t going to prison cruel and barbaric? Maybe let them walk free?
No, this is not barbarism.
And why free??
Any crime should entail punishment. The question is - WHAT
Well, they scolded would have threatened with a finger. Isn’t this a punishment? What kind of barbarity is it to lock a person in a cell?
No, you don’t need to substitute anything. Just follow the rules developed over centuries of human development, and don’t mentally fall into the Middle Ages.
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Following your animal vengeful instincts is terrible and disgusts🤮 [/quote]
Ah, plant Isn’t going to prison cruel and barbaric? Maybe let them walk free? [/quote]
No, this is not barbarism. And why free?? Any crime should entail punishment. The question is - WHAT☝️ [/quote]
Well, they scolded would have threatened with a finger. Isn’t this a punishment? What kind of barbarity is it to lock a person in a cell?
Rasrom: 19 Aug 2023, 09:32
No, this is not barbarism.
And why are you free??
Any crime should be punished. The question is - WHAT
Well, they scolded would have threatened with a finger. Isn’t this a punishment? What kind of barbarity is it to lock a person in a cell?
The law defines it this way - so be it.
Well, that is, you don’t have any counterarguments?
In modern conditions, a person can be isolated in his home by wearing a bracelet on his ankle. He will not be able to leave, since all movements are monitored, but he is sent to prison. As they did thousands of years ago, because the law dictates so.
What conclusion can be drawn after our discussion? If there is a law on castration, then so be it. Yes? Well, if there is a law on execution, then so be it.
No, this is not barbarism. And why are you free?? Any crime should be punished. The question is - WHAT☝️ [/quote]
Well, they scolded would have threatened with a finger. Isn’t this a punishment? What kind of barbarity is it to lock a person in a cell? [/quote]
The law defines it this way - so be it. [/quote]
Well, that is, you don’t have any counterarguments? In modern conditions, a person can be isolated in his home by wearing a bracelet on his ankle. He will not be able to leave, since all movements are monitored, but he is sent to prison. As they did thousands of years ago, because the law dictates so. What conclusion can be drawn after our discussion? If there is a law on castration, then so be it. Yes? Well, if there is a law on execution, then so be it.
This is savagery, which is basically impossible in a normal society. Firstly, the accused may simply become a victim of unfounded accusations, which is the norm in any country where people are ready to do anything to get stars on their garbage uniforms, and secondly, this is simply cruel and inhumane. Any accusation and conviction of a person in the justice system, in principle, is not the truth; there is always the possibility of a miscarriage of justice. And if women cut off the clitoris for pedophilia, is this normal in your opinion?...
This is savagery, which is basically impossible in a normal society. Firstly, the accused may simply become a victim of unfounded accusations, which is the norm in any country where people are ready to do anything to get stars on their garbage uniforms, and secondly, this is simply cruel and inhumane. Any accusation and conviction of a person in the justice system, in principle, is not the truth; there is always the possibility of a miscarriage of justice. And if women [url=viewtopic.php?t=1753]cut off the clitoris[/url] for pedophilia, is this normal in your opinion?...
Juvli: 19 Aug 2023, 13:28
This is savagery, which is basically impossible in a normal society. Firstly, the accused may simply become a victim of unfounded accusations, which is the norm in any country where people are ready to do anything to get stars on their garbage uniforms, and secondly, this is simply cruel and inhumane. Any accusation and conviction of a person in the justice system, in principle, is not the truth; there is always the possibility of a miscarriage of justice. And if women cut off the clitoris for pedophilia, is this normal, in your opinion?...
[quote=Juvli post_id=244801 time=1692476897 user_id=1] This is savagery, which is basically impossible in a normal society. Firstly, the accused may simply become a victim of unfounded accusations, which is the norm in any country where people are ready to do anything to get stars on their garbage uniforms, and secondly, this is simply cruel and inhumane. Any accusation and conviction of a person in the justice system, in principle, is not the truth; there is always the possibility of a miscarriage of justice. And if women [url=viewtopic.php?t=1753]cut off the clitoris[/url] for pedophilia, is this normal, in your opinion?... [/quote]
I believe that imprisonment is the most terrible punishment. This is what rapists should be sentenced to.
Any mutilating methods, I believe, are unacceptable. Because a person can become a victim of a frame-up or an elementary miscarriage of justice. In the case of prison, this can be fixed. And if you cripple/execute, nothing can be brought back, but an innocent person will suffer.
Well, the one who is loyal to cruelty - what is better than the rapist?
I believe that imprisonment is the most terrible punishment. This is what rapists should be sentenced to. Any mutilating methods, I believe, are unacceptable. Because a person can become a victim of a frame-up or an elementary miscarriage of justice. In the case of prison, this can be fixed. And if you cripple/execute, nothing can be brought back, but an innocent person will suffer. Well, the one who is loyal to cruelty - what is better than the rapist?
Marinka: 18 Aug 2023, 13:37
I have two sons growing up. I have been explaining to them since childhood that girls should not be offended. Even if she is harmful and disgusting and may even deserve it. She is a girl, and they are future men.
Can boys be offended? Those. Is this, in principle, acceptable and normal?
And how should a son react if his girl openly calls him names or hits him?
[quote=Marinka post_id=244469 time=1692391027 user_id=12161] I have two sons growing up. I have been explaining to them since childhood that girls should not be offended. Even if she is harmful and disgusting and may even deserve it. She is a girl, and they are future men. [/quote] Can boys be offended? Those. Is this, in principle, acceptable and normal? And how should a son react if his girl openly calls him names or hits him?
Marinka: 18 Aug 2023, 13:37
I have two sons growing up. I have been explaining to them since childhood that girls should not be offended. Even if she is harmful and disgusting and may even deserve it. She is a girl, and they are future men.
Can boys be offended? Those. is this, in principle, acceptable and normal?
And how should a son react if his girl openly calls him names or beats him?
If they beat him, then you need to defend yourself. If they call you names, then don’t communicate with such people.
Were you offended? I had to play sports.
[quote=Perun post_id=244854 time=1692513927 user_id=2699] Any crippling methods [/quote]
Prison cripples the nervous system.
[quote=Rajish post_id=244855 time =1692514415 user_id=1] [quote=Marinka post_id=244469 time=1692391027 user_id=12161] I have two sons growing up. I have been explaining to them since childhood that girls should not be offended. Even if she is harmful and disgusting and may even deserve it. She is a girl, and they are future men. [/quote] Can boys be offended? Those. is this, in principle, acceptable and normal? And how should a son react if his girl openly calls him names or beats him? [/quote]
If they beat him, then you need to defend yourself. If they call you names, then don’t communicate with such people. Were you offended? I had to play sports.
Rubahaparen: 20 Aug 2023, 01:51
You can sew on a pussy!
The easiest way is to learn to think before doing something. Adhere to the principle - do no harm. And then you won’t have to waste yourself here, coming up with excuses to avoid responsibility or make the punishment as comfortable as possible.
[quote=Rubahaparen post_id=244875 time=1692521468 user_id=10389] You can sew on a pussy! [/quote]
The easiest way is to learn to think before doing something. Adhere to the principle - do no harm. And then you won’t have to waste yourself here, coming up with excuses to avoid responsibility or make the punishment as comfortable as possible.
And I’m not against punishment. Simply not having sexual desire will not solve the problem. The desire for violence may have completely different roots. But you can sew on a pussy and that’s a fact!
And I’m not against punishment. Simply not having sexual desire will not solve the problem. The desire for violence may have completely different roots. But you can sew on a pussy and that’s a fact!
[quote=Kollontai post_id=244914 time=1692534760 user_id=1] The desire for castration speaks of a deep pathology in a person; a normal person will not even think about it. [/quote]
But you raised the topic of castration, what if they castrated you by cutting off your clitoris, like morons do in Africa. Punishments that traumatize a person forever are prohibited, are you even aware of this?
But you raised the topic of castration, what if they castrated you by cutting off your clitoris, like morons do in Africa. Punishments that traumatize a person forever are prohibited, are you even aware of this?
Acceptability Range: 20 Aug 2023, 06:20
But you raised the topic of castration, what if they castrated you by cutting off your clitoris, as morons do in Africa. Punishments that traumatize a person forever are prohibited, are you even aware of this?
And, is rape allowed? Doesn’t rape scar a person forever?
[quote="Acceptability Range" post_id=244923 time=1692537657 user_id=1] But you raised the topic of castration, what if they castrated you by cutting off your clitoris, as morons do in Africa. Punishments that traumatize a person forever are prohibited, are you even aware of this? [/quote]
And, is rape allowed? Doesn’t rape scar a person forever?
Kollontai: 20 Aug 2023, 07:43
Rape is prohibited in all countries, you just offer savage punishments.
And what should the punishments be? So that the rapist, if he wants in the future, can do it again? Right? So, if we cut off his farm, then there will be nothing left to force? And, the one who rapes for the first time, so as not to worry that he will be maimed? So? So that nothing could overshadow the pleasure of the rapist.
Somehow, I see you feel sorry for rapists, but you don’t feel sorry for those whom they rape. How so?
[quote=Kollontai post_id=244933 time=1692542620 user_id=1] Rape is prohibited in all countries, you just offer savage punishments. [/quote]
And what should the punishments be? So that the rapist, if he wants in the future, can do it again? Right? So, if we cut off his farm, then there will be nothing left to force? And, the one who rapes for the first time, so as not to worry that he will be maimed? So? So that nothing could overshadow the pleasure of the rapist. Somehow, I see you feel sorry for rapists, but you don’t feel sorry for those whom they rape. How so?
Unfortunately, you have completely wild ideas about the world. After rape, the vagina remains intact (in virgins the hymen breaks), but you propose castration (cutting off the testicles), after which the person will no longer be able to live a normal life. I am absolutely against any violence, and you, in my opinion, have gone too far in this matter.
Unfortunately, you have completely wild ideas about the world. After rape, the vagina remains intact (in virgins the hymen breaks), but you propose castration (cutting off the testicles), after which the person will no longer be able to live a normal life. I am absolutely against any violence, and you, in my opinion, have gone too far in this matter.
Rites: 20 Aug 2023, 08:37
Unfortunately, you have completely wild ideas about the world. After rape, the vagina remains intact (in virgins the hymen breaks), but you propose castration (cutting off the testicles), after which the person will no longer be able to live a normal life. I am
absolutely against any violence, and you, in my opinion, have gone too far on this issue.
You are not against it now violence. You are against violence against rapists.
Psychic trauma is very difficult to treat and not completely. And it’s impossible to understand what this is unless you experience it yourself. Even if a woman lives a relatively normal life after rape, it will not be immediately and not soon. If at all.
You pity the scum that rapes, but I, in your opinion, have wild ideas about the world.
It is not rapists who should have a normal life, but normal people. A rapist, as soon as he commits violence, drops out of the list of normal people and is already living the life he deserves.
[quote=Rites post_id=244940 time=1692545864 user_id=1] Unfortunately, you have completely wild ideas about the world. After rape, the vagina remains intact (in virgins the hymen breaks), but you propose castration (cutting off the testicles), after which the person will no longer be able to live a normal life. I am absolutely against any violence, and you, in my opinion, have gone too far on this issue. [/quote]
You are not against it now violence. You are against violence against rapists. Psychic trauma is very difficult to treat and not completely. And it’s impossible to understand what this is unless you experience it yourself. Even if a woman lives a relatively normal life after rape, it will not be immediately and not soon. If at all. You pity the scum that rapes, but I, in your opinion, have wild ideas about the world. It is not rapists who should have a normal life, but normal people. A rapist, as soon as he commits violence, drops out of the list of normal people and is already living the life he deserves.
Kollontai: 20 Aug 2023, 07:43
Rape is prohibited in all countries, you just propose savage punishments.
And what should the punishments be? So that the rapist, if he wants in the future, can do it again? Right? So, if we cut off his farm, then there will be nothing left to force? And, the one who rapes for the first time, so as not to worry that he will be maimed? So? So that nothing could overshadow the pleasure of the rapist.
Somehow, I see you feel sorry for rapists, but you don’t feel sorry for those whom they rape. How so?
Well, this is the return of the “Eye for an eye” law.
[quote=Marinka post_id=244935 time=1692543194 user_id=12161] [quote=Kollontai post_id=244933 time=1692542620 user_id= 1] Rape is prohibited in all countries, you just propose savage punishments. [/quote]
And what should the punishments be? So that the rapist, if he wants in the future, can do it again? Right? So, if we cut off his farm, then there will be nothing left to force? And, the one who rapes for the first time, so as not to worry that he will be maimed? So? So that nothing could overshadow the pleasure of the rapist. Somehow, I see you feel sorry for rapists, but you don’t feel sorry for those whom they rape. How so? [/quote] Well, this is the return of the “Eye for an eye” law.
Kollontai: 20 Aug 2023, 07:43
Rape is prohibited in all countries, you just propose savage punishments.
And what should the punishments be? So that the rapist, if he wants in the future, can do it again? Right? So, if we cut off his farm, then there will be nothing left to force? And, the one who rapes for the first time, so as not to worry that he will be maimed? So? So that nothing could overshadow the pleasure of the rapist.
Somehow, I see you feel sorry for rapists, but you don’t feel sorry for those whom they rape. How so?
Well, this is the return of the law "An eye for an eye".
Well, who did prison correct in our country?
Now there is a video circulating on the Internet of a cook kicking a waitress. He came drunk, she reprimanded him. He kicks her in the face and asks if it hurts her. He has already been detained. He has a previous conviction. Well, now they’ll put me in prison again. Then he will serve his time and be released.
If we break his legs now. With which he beat her. He will experience severe physical pain, then lie in a cast for six months. Then he will have to learn to walk on them again for six months. Then the former fractures will remind themselves when the weather changes. I think there will never be a relapse. Well, this scum will calmly eat at public expense, and if then he doesn’t like something, he will again use violence. Rabid animals should not be treated like humans. They understand only the language of force. They don’t understand anything anymore.
And of course, prison doesn’t correct anyone.
[quote=Serg_A post_id=244955 time=1692551595 user_id=18010] [quote=Marinka post_id=244935 time=1692543194 user_id= 12161] [quote=Kollontai post_id=244933 time =1692542620 user_id=1] Rape is prohibited in all countries, you just propose savage punishments. [/quote]
And what should the punishments be? So that the rapist, if he wants in the future, can do it again? Right? So, if we cut off his farm, then there will be nothing left to force? And, the one who rapes for the first time, so as not to worry that he will be maimed? So? So that nothing could overshadow the pleasure of the rapist. Somehow, I see you feel sorry for rapists, but you don’t feel sorry for those whom they rape. How so? [/quote] Well, this is the return of the law "An eye for an eye". [/quote]
Well, who did prison correct in our country? Now there is a video circulating on the Internet of a cook kicking a waitress. He came drunk, she reprimanded him. He kicks her in the face and asks if it hurts her. He has already been detained. He has a previous conviction. Well, now they’ll put me in prison again. Then he will serve his time and be released. If we break his legs now. With which he beat her. He will experience severe physical pain, then lie in a cast for six months. Then he will have to learn to walk on them again for six months. Then the former fractures will remind themselves when the weather changes. I think there will never be a relapse. Well, this scum will calmly eat at public expense, and if then he doesn’t like something, he will again use violence. Rabid animals should not be treated like humans. They understand only the language of force. They don’t understand anything anymore. And of course, prison doesn’t correct anyone.
And what should be the punishments? So that the rapist, if he wants in the future, can do it again? Right? So, if we cut off his farm, then there will be nothing left to force? And, the one who rapes for the first time, so as not to worry that he will be maimed? So? So that nothing could overshadow the pleasure of the rapist.
Somehow, I see you feel sorry for rapists, but you don’t feel sorry for those whom they rape. How so?
Well, this is the return of the law "An eye for an eye".
Well, who did prison correct in our country?
Now there is a video circulating on the Internet of a cook kicking a waitress. He came drunk, she reprimanded him. He kicks her in the face and asks if it hurts her. He has already been detained. He has a previous conviction. Well, now they’ll put me in prison again. Then he will serve his time and be released.
If we break his legs now. With which he beat her. He will experience severe physical pain, then lie in a cast for six months. Then he will have to learn to walk on them again for six months. Then the former fractures will remind themselves when the weather changes. I think there will never be a relapse. Well, this scum will calmly eat at public expense, and if then he doesn’t like something, he will again use violence. Rabid animals should not be treated like humans. They understand only the language of force. They don’t understand anything anymore.
And of course, prison doesn’t correct anyone.
Well, yes, you said everything correctly. But I would accept such laws with reservations. If the fact of slander is proven, then the plaintiff (plaintiff) receives all this fivefold. Well, everyone should be responsible for their actions. If it turns out during the investigation, or this castrated, allegedly rapist, proves that it was a slander, then this “plaintiff” will have her eyes gouged out, her arms and legs will be cut off, and so will false witnesses, by the way. If the case was about alleged pedophilia, then the parents of such an “injured” child bear responsibility.
And what should be the punishments? So that the rapist, if he wants in the future, can do it again? Right? So, if we cut off his farm, then there will be nothing left to force? And, the one who rapes for the first time, so as not to worry that he will be maimed? So? So that nothing could overshadow the pleasure of the rapist. Somehow, I see you feel sorry for rapists, but you don’t feel sorry for those whom they rape. How so? [/quote] Well, this is the return of the law "An eye for an eye". [/quote]
Well, who did prison correct in our country? Now there is a video circulating on the Internet of a cook kicking a waitress. He came drunk, she reprimanded him. He kicks her in the face and asks if it hurts her. He has already been detained. He has a previous conviction. Well, now they’ll put me in prison again. Then he will serve his time and be released. If we break his legs now. With which he beat her. He will experience severe physical pain, then lie in a cast for six months. Then he will have to learn to walk on them again for six months. Then the former fractures will remind themselves when the weather changes. I think there will never be a relapse. Well, this scum will calmly eat at public expense, and if then he doesn’t like something, he will again use violence. Rabid animals should not be treated like humans. They understand only the language of force. They don’t understand anything anymore. And of course, prison doesn’t correct anyone. [/quote] Well, yes, you said everything correctly. But I would accept such laws with reservations. If the fact of slander is proven, then the plaintiff (plaintiff) receives all this fivefold. Well, everyone should be responsible for their actions. If it turns out during the investigation, or this castrated, allegedly rapist, proves that it was a slander, then this “plaintiff” will have her eyes gouged out, her arms and legs will be cut off, and so will false witnesses, by the way. If the case was about alleged pedophilia, then the parents of such an “injured” child bear responsibility.
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Partially, voluntary castration has begun, transgender people or whatever they call them, who are cut out under the spine, there are probably no other volunteers, except for medicine, if so.