Warbuzers do not live with strong independent people; they purposefully choose a weak, defenseless victim for themselves.Gudgeon: ↑08 Feb 2023, 10:27 Conclusion - be a full-fledged independent person. Rely only on yourself. And choose the same life partners. And no one can “abuse” you (what a vile word). With anyone who tries, you can stop communicating and not get hurt.
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◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊, to the point! And precisely for this reason, the best defense is not to be dependent.
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Yes, and not only the strong use it... there are skilled people who pretend to be weak and weak... there are those who are impudent, there are blackmailers and those who find out your secrets and weaknesses, then they skillfully use it...
This is the topic not as simple as it seems at first glance...
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In relationships, we all use each other... but... We use approximately equally... but the problem is that some people like to use more than they give... and that’s when the problem arises...◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊: ↑08 Feb 2023, 11:08 Arbuzers do not live with strong independent people, they deliberately choose a weak, defenseless victim for themselves.
Yes, and not only the strong use it... there are skilled people who pretend to be weak and weak... there are those who are impudent, there are blackmailers and those who find out your secrets and weaknesses, then they skillfully use it...
This is the topic not as simple as it seems at first glance...
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Well then fuck yourself later for the sake of... find words to explain to those around you and to your child why everyone there are mothers... and he lives with a transgender... Understand that you won’t live your life without being 100% dependent on someone... But I agree... you need to stream for this... the more independent you are, the more crazy...
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Gudgeon,
To have dick with what to do and what to feed your tits with...
Just kidding... Well, you see... you can’t always be independent... once you’ve been imprisoned you’re in a puddle, admit it and don’t embarrass yourself with snapping...
To have dick with what to do and what to feed your tits with...



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Mmm... put me in a puddle... dragging in some transgender people
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Gudgeon,
What are you talking about. .. am I sure... or are my thoughts overwhelming...? you are not dependent, tell me how you will make your offspring, regardless... how you will raise them correctly... how you will live out your life in old age, regardless... It is obvious that you have no experience in life... Many people depend on us, and we depend on you are addicted, but...dependence must be limited to a minimum and not allowed to sit on your neck...
What are you talking about. .. am I sure... or are my thoughts overwhelming...? you are not dependent, tell me how you will make your offspring, regardless... how you will raise them correctly... how you will live out your life in old age, regardless... It is obvious that you have no experience in life... Many people depend on us, and we depend on you are addicted, but...dependence must be limited to a minimum and not allowed to sit on your neck...
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I’m reading and I don’t understand a little, why would you even be with such people? As I read above (reasons: children, work is not so good), well, but you are dumb, you have no character, you don’t know how to convey your thoughts or he doesn’t hear you?! Abuse, in my opinion, does not arise after a couple of years of living together, it is either immediately visible or it is not abuse, but BOTH have sunk to such a life that you don’t want to hear or see each other... but they keep you (example: children, financial status ) there is no respect anymore. If I don’t understand something, please correct me)
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Here... . The answer is very close to the truth... well, that’s the biggest mistake of the victims.... He’s handsome for a long time and he knows how to earn money... well, he will correct his shortcomings in time.... Like the Rules, an abuser is only in fairy tales. is corrected... When it comes to his wife... the apartment has already been bought on credit, three or even more children have been injured... he beats her and kills her... and where are you going with the money from the submarine...
nThat’s why you should always have a decent job with enough income to cover food, rented housing and at least 50% of the children’s needs.... Something didn’t suit me... I took a chumadan and a dosvidos... I immediately filed alimony... and there’s no need endure humiliation....
Never count on your husband’s salary... look for a job so that you have enough... work for as much as you can feed, don’t work in your husband’s company... if you have a fight, you will end up without a job... work can be used as a lever of pressure...
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Here... . The answer is very close to the truth... well, that’s the biggest mistake of the victims.... He’s handsome for a long time and he knows how to earn money... well, he will correct his shortcomings in time.... Like the Rules, an abuser is only in fairy tales. is corrected... When it comes to his wife... the apartment has already been bought on credit, three or even more children have been injured... he beats her and kills her... and where are you going with the money from the submarine...
nThat’s why you should always have a decent job with enough income to cover food, rented housing and at least 50% of the children’s needs.... Something didn’t suit me... I took a chumadan and a dosvidos... I immediately filed alimony... and there’s no need endure humiliation....
Never count on your husband’s salary... look for a job so that you have enough... work for as much as you can feed, don’t work in your husband’s company... if you have a fight, you will end up without a job... work can be used as a lever of pressure...
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Do not return unworthy people into your life
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How to avoid falling for the tricks of an abusive man in a relationship?
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Then all the leaders and parents are like you said. And who do you depend on financially? And some people may like dependence, they themselves don’t know what they want, but here there are clear requirements - and you don’t have to think for yourself. And what is it called?
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My wife’s sister had a husband who was a real abuser, beat her and the children regularly, almost never worked, and drank regularly. To all attempts by relatives to point out that such behavior in the family is not the norm, she responded very rudely and sent everyone away. Their story ended with the fact that at one point he almost killed her; their children, who could no longer live with such a father, insisted on a divorce. Then they couldn’t kick him out of the house for a year
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There are many such stories... At such moments, it is the relatives who should first hint and then take any action... to pacify the abuser... no need to wait until your sister is killed...Vzhik24: ↑19 Feb 2023, 20:15 My wife’s sister had a husband who was a real abuser, beat her and the children regularly, almost never worked, and drank regularly. To all attempts by relatives to point out that such behavior in the family is not the norm, she responded very rudely and sent everyone away. Their story ended with the fact that at one point he almost killed her; their children, who could no longer live with such a father, insisted on a divorce. Then they couldn’t kick him out of the house for a year
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she could kill whoever you wanted for him, she only listened to her children when they grew up
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Vzhik24,
Sorry for the directness. .. then she herself liked such BDSM relationships... I feel sorry for the children... that they were forced to observe the wrong model of family relationships...
Sorry for the directness. .. then she herself liked such BDSM relationships... I feel sorry for the children... that they were forced to observe the wrong model of family relationships...
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Shalun70, that’s exactly what happened, none of the relatives I couldn’t understand it
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this is the relationship between the victim, the pursuer and the rescuer. Relatives act as rescuers here. And no one leaves this triangle of their own free will, because everyone is happy with everything. The victim likes to whine and complain and at the same time not change anything in his life, and the persecutor likes to mock her, he gets sadistic pleasure from this.
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anything is possible, but she never complained, on the contrary, in any possible situation she praised him. After a few years, her relatives got tired of all this, everyone simply stopped inviting them to various celebrations.◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊: ↑20 Feb 2023, 00:45 Such a relationship can hardly be called love
it is a relationship between a victim, a pursuer and a rescuer. Relatives act as rescuers here. And no one leaves this triangle of their own free will, because everyone is happy with everything. The victim likes to whine and complain and at the same time not change anything in his life, and the persecutor likes to mock her, he gets sadistic pleasure from this.
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But I’ll answer anyway... I’ve been familiar with the law enforcement system for many years... with its methods of work and statistics... Understand... you can humiliate in freedom only that person who allows himself to be humiliated... and regardless of gender...
There are women who like to quarrel... so that later they can enjoy the sweetness of trying on. .. when a man, in order to be asked to kiss her feet, rape her in his arms... buy her fur coats, ITD ITP cars... Ask any local police officer and policeman... how many times have they had to refuse to initiate a criminal case only because the wives slandered themselves... begging for their husbands... The answer will stun you... in fact, there are always more wives "begging" than we think... And it is not possible to punish tyrants... indoor because they are shielding them...
You cannot love a person who brings you pain and suffering... This is some kind of mental disorder that gives pleasure from physical or mental pain... And in this situation, no one can help a person like that It seems to a person that he doesn’t need a wave... Although just the opposite... with each violence the cruelty only intensifies... and one day it will reach irreparable... disability or even death...
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Madam, I am disappointed in you... You, as a person, have died for me... I will not go into details you yourself know... and I’m gentleman... I won’t caress white ladies in public...
But I’ll answer anyway... I’ve been familiar with the law enforcement system for many years... with its methods of work and statistics... Understand... you can humiliate in freedom only that person who allows himself to be humiliated... and regardless of gender...
There are women who like to quarrel... so that later they can enjoy the sweetness of trying on. .. when a man, in order to be asked to kiss her feet, rape her in his arms... buy her fur coats, ITD ITP cars... Ask any local police officer and policeman... how many times have they had to refuse to initiate a criminal case only because the wives slandered themselves... begging for their husbands... The answer will stun you... in fact, there are always more wives "begging" than we think... And it is not possible to punish tyrants... indoor because they are shielding them...
You cannot love a person who brings you pain and suffering... This is some kind of mental disorder that gives pleasure from physical or mental pain... And in this situation, no one can help a person like that It seems to a person that he doesn’t need a wave... Although just the opposite... with each violence the cruelty only intensifies... and one day it will reach irreparable... disability or even death...
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You’re right In fact... Everything happens because everyone is happy with everything... Someone is a tyrant and he likes it... and someone is a victim... who likes to be a victim...◊_NeBo[_On_] LaDoNi_◊: ↑20 Feb 2023, 00:45 this is the relationship between the victim, the pursuer and the rescuer. Relatives act as rescuers here. And no one leaves this triangle of their own free will, because everyone is happy with everything. The victim likes to whine and complain and at the same time not change anything in his life, and the persecutor likes to mock her, he gets sadistic pleasure from this.
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You are presenting what you want as reality. Perhaps this is some kind of protective reaction of your brain.
You are very primitive in your judgments, but it was precisely this childish spontaneity that I liked about you. A kind of non-depravity that makes you smile and cute. But discussing with you is not interesting and useless. You seem out of this world. There is reality and there is your childish view of this reality.Shalun70: ↑20 Feb 2023, 01:03Madam, I am disappointed in you... You, as a person, have died for me... In I won’t go into details, you yourself know... and I’m gentleman... I won’t caress white ladies in public...
But I’ll answer anyway.... I’ve been familiar with the law enforcement system for many years... with its working methods and statistics... Understand... you can humiliate in freedom only that person who allows himself to be humiliated... and regardless of gender...
There are women who like to quarrel... so that later enjoy the sweetness of trying on... when a man, in order to be forgiven, kisses her feet, rapes her in his arms... buys her fur coats, cars ITD ITP... Ask any local policeman and policeman... how many times did they have to refuse in the initiation of criminal cases, it is only because the wives incriminated themselves... by begging for their husbands... The answer will stun you... in fact, there are always more wives "begging" than we think... And punish the tyrants... indoors it’s not possible just because they shield them...
You can’t love a person who brings you pain and suffering... This is some kind of mental disorder that gives pleasure from physical or mental pain... And in this situation there is no one for the person will not be able to help because it seems to the person that he does not need a wave... Although just the opposite... with each violence the cruelty will only intensify... and one day it will reach irreparable... disability or even death...
You are presenting what you want as reality. Perhaps this is some kind of protective reaction of your brain.
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Vzhik24, she was punishing herself for something... this is an acute dislike for herself, rather even hatred. It’s a pity that I not only punished myself, but also the children... I really feel sorry for the children in this situation ((
even if she didn’t complain, she continued to live in this hell... to be beaten constantly herself, and also to watch how he beats children... this is a more sophisticated victim who does not complain, but simply watches and is silent.Vzhik24: ↑20 Feb 2023, 00:59anything is possible, but she never complained, on the contrary, in any possible situation she praised him. After a few years, her relatives got tired of all this, everyone simply stopped inviting them to various celebrations.◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊: ↑20 Feb 2023, 00:45 Such a relationship can hardly be called love
it is a relationship between a victim, a pursuer and a rescuer. Relatives act as rescuers here. And no one leaves this triangle of their own free will, because everyone is happy with everything. The victim likes to whine and complain and at the same time not change anything in his life, and the persecutor likes to mock her, he gets sadistic pleasure from this.
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Listen to what he says this user of our forum... ◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊,
Marina I had to witness many family conflicts... I had to sort them out... and I’ll tell you this... you are far from reality...
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I will not stoop to your level, start insulting...Marinka: ↑20 Feb 2023, 01:13 You are very primitive in your judgments, but just this childish I liked the spontaneity in you. A kind of non-depravity that makes you smile and cute. But discussing with you is not interesting and useless. You seem out of this world. There is reality and there is your childish view of this reality.
You present what you want as reality. Perhaps this is some kind of defensive reaction of your brain.
Listen to what he says this user of our forum... ◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊,
Marina I had to witness many family conflicts... I had to sort them out... and I’ll tell you this... you are far from reality...
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I will answer everyone at once. No one left her, everyone was just tired of their “concerts,” in fact, any family celebration was almost always ruined by their scandals. Their 20-year family idyll ended about 2 years ago. For 3 months they still couldn’t kick him out; when he left, he took everything from the house, even unscrewing the light bulbs. The house in which they lived belonged to her parents before; he almost never worked. Now everything is fine with her, she has renovated her house and bought a car. From time to time, a "lad" comes to visit her, 10 years younger than her. She tries very hard to hide him from everyone, although everyone already knows about him, no one is against their relationship, even her daughter, since he is a normal guy.
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There is a scientific discipline that studies the causes of social, psychological and other conflicts and determines ways and methods of overcoming them. It’s called conflictology. Those who are familiar with it will most likely correct me and say that this is not a separate scientific discipline, but an interdisciplinary field of knowledge, but be that as it may, in fact, in any case, everything is not as simple as it seems to us from the outside. Especially for people like you, who are used to simplifying everything to black and white. There are no other shades for you. And, after all, even the very concept of good and evil is purely subjective. Moreover, what one person considers evil, another can easily interpret as good. Both will be right. Just to each their own.
Well, it’s not uncommon for feelings to interfere in assessing a situation. Man is an emotional being. Some to a greater extent, some to a lesser extent.
Many factors influence the behavioral model of an individual person and the model of building relationships.
And, everything is simple for you.
I didn’t insult you. You are primitive in your own right. Simple. Not blessed, but simple. They say about such people that simplicity is worse than theft.Shalun70: ↑20 Feb 2023, 01:30But this is in vain... If your sister does not understand where she ended up... Under no circumstances should relatives leave her to the mercy of fate...
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You present what you want as reality. Perhaps this is some kind of defensive reaction of your brain.
Listen to what he says this user of our forum... ◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊,
Marina I had to witness many family conflicts... I had to sort them out... and I’ll tell you this... you are far from reality...
There is a scientific discipline that studies the causes of social, psychological and other conflicts and determines ways and methods of overcoming them. It’s called conflictology. Those who are familiar with it will most likely correct me and say that this is not a separate scientific discipline, but an interdisciplinary field of knowledge, but be that as it may, in fact, in any case, everything is not as simple as it seems to us from the outside. Especially for people like you, who are used to simplifying everything to black and white. There are no other shades for you. And, after all, even the very concept of good and evil is purely subjective. Moreover, what one person considers evil, another can easily interpret as good. Both will be right. Just to each their own.
Well, it’s not uncommon for feelings to interfere in assessing a situation. Man is an emotional being. Some to a greater extent, some to a lesser extent.
Many factors influence the behavioral model of an individual person and the model of building relationships.
And, everything is simple for you.
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What about me?) You, Marina, if you work in psychiatry, what can you say about me? Has the cuckoo moved out?

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You are very cute)elrotik: ↑20 Feb 2023, 02:44 What about me?) You, Marina, if you work in psychiatry, what can you say about me? Has the cuckoo moved out?![]()
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Thank you...) But this... Okay... Thank you...)

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n That’s all I can say about you. I’m not observing anyone here and I’m not doing behavioral analysis. I came here to talk about sex)))
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I’ll tell you this... conflicts are different... it’s true ... and the shades are also different... but there are so-called red lines... which are dangerous to cross... Especially for women since, as a rule, they are physically weaker... The aggressor will increase his aggression each time... Well, for example... the first argument may end simply with a slap in the face... After a while, the aggressor will definitely hit with his fist, and after a while... and with nakedness or whatever happens to his friend... Not a single psychologist will approve of physical violence... The reason is that this violence always goes upward... If I’m wrong, then give me an example and name me at least one psychologist who approves of violence and advises you to endure it...
It seems to me that you are too simple in your judgments... Thinking that you will be able to re-educate the world... This happens in fairy tales... but not in real life... if a man has not been taught to respect a woman... then he will not respect her... if a husband’s father beat his mother all his life, this will be his norm of behavior... if a woman’s mother often got hit in the teeth by father and mother asked for this... then the daughter will do the same in her relationships... endure... or endure and whine...
I already explained it to you on the forum and as I see it’s not really the only one... Tolerating humiliation and beatings is not love but a mental disorder... Do not confuse these concepts... For example... a wife runs into a burning hut and tries to help her husband get out of the fire... while getting burns and enduring pain. .. will continue to save her husband... This is love... But to endure the burns of her husband’s cigarette butts on her body... supposedly for the sake of "love" is schizophrenia...
And also... model behavior... caretakers are laid in children... What is the norm for parents will become the norm for their children... Therefore, children should not see their parents in a quarrel... especially with a fight...
Madam, again you have a desire to rise up... But you chose a very cheap way to do this... Through insults... without understanding that an unreasonable insult will not harm you me... and first of all you... So try to explain my simplicity and why it is worse than theft as you put it...Marinka: ↑20 Feb 2023, 02:07 I didn’t insult you. You are primitive in your own right. Simple. Not blessed, but simple. They say about such people that simplicity is worse than theft.
There is a scientific discipline that studies the causes of social, psychological and other conflicts and determines ways and methods of overcoming them. It’s called conflictology. Those who are familiar with it will most likely correct me and say that this is not a separate scientific discipline, but an interdisciplinary field of knowledge, but be that as it may, in fact, in any case, everything is not as simple as it seems to us from the outside. Especially for people like you, who are used to simplifying everything to black and white. There are no other shades for you. And, after all, even the very concept of good and evil is purely subjective. Moreover, what one person considers evil, another can easily interpret as good. Both will be right. It’s just that everyone has their own way.
Well, it’s not uncommon for feelings to interfere in assessing a situation. Man is an emotional being. Some to a greater extent, some to a lesser extent.
Many factors influence the behavioral model of an individual person and the model of building relationships.
And, everything is simple for you.
I’ll tell you this... conflicts are different... it’s true ... and the shades are also different... but there are so-called red lines... which are dangerous to cross... Especially for women since, as a rule, they are physically weaker... The aggressor will increase his aggression each time... Well, for example... the first argument may end simply with a slap in the face... After a while, the aggressor will definitely hit with his fist, and after a while... and with nakedness or whatever happens to his friend... Not a single psychologist will approve of physical violence... The reason is that this violence always goes upward... If I’m wrong, then give me an example and name me at least one psychologist who approves of violence and advises you to endure it...
It seems to me that you are too simple in your judgments... Thinking that you will be able to re-educate the world... This happens in fairy tales... but not in real life... if a man has not been taught to respect a woman... then he will not respect her... if a husband’s father beat his mother all his life, this will be his norm of behavior... if a woman’s mother often got hit in the teeth by father and mother asked for this... then the daughter will do the same in her relationships... endure... or endure and whine...
I already explained it to you on the forum and as I see it’s not really the only one... Tolerating humiliation and beatings is not love but a mental disorder... Do not confuse these concepts... For example... a wife runs into a burning hut and tries to help her husband get out of the fire... while getting burns and enduring pain. .. will continue to save her husband... This is love... But to endure the burns of her husband’s cigarette butts on her body... supposedly for the sake of "love" is schizophrenia...
And also... model behavior... caretakers are laid in children... What is the norm for parents will become the norm for their children... Therefore, children should not see their parents in a quarrel... especially with a fight...
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nYes, typical behavior of an abuser... even unscrewing the light bulbs... Well... we can only congratulate you on getting rid of the supastat...Vzhik24: ↑20 Feb 2023, 01:48 I will answer everyone at once. No one left her, everyone was just tired of their “concerts,” in fact, any family celebration was almost always ruined by their scandals. Their 20-year family idyll ended about 2 years ago. For 3 months they still couldn’t kick him out; when he left, he took everything from the house, even unscrewing the light bulbs. The house in which they lived belonged to her parents before; he almost never worked. Now everything is fine with her, she has renovated her house and bought a car. From time to time, a "lad" comes to visit her, 10 years younger than her. She tries very hard to hide him from everyone, although everyone already knows about him, no one is against their relationship, even her daughter, since he is a normal guy.

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I just assumed that she didn’t leave because she loved him, and didn’t love him because he was above her mocks. It’s not for nothing that there is a saying that love is evil, and if you love a goat. I tell you about Thomas, and you tell me about Yerema.Shalun70: ↑20 Feb 2023, 03:24Madam, again you have a desire to rise up... But you chose a very cheap way to do this... Through insults... without understanding that an unreasonable insult will not harm you me... and first of all you... So try to explain my simplicity and why it is worse than theft as you put it...Marinka: ↑20 Feb 2023, 02:07 I didn’t insult you. You are primitive in your own right. Simple. Not blessed, but simple. They say about such people that simplicity is worse than theft.
There is a scientific discipline that studies the causes of social, psychological and other conflicts and determines ways and methods of overcoming them. It’s called conflictology. Those who are familiar with it will most likely correct me and say that this is not a separate scientific discipline, but an interdisciplinary field of knowledge, but be that as it may, in fact, in any case, everything is not as simple as it seems to us from the outside. Especially for people like you, who are used to simplifying everything to black and white. There are no other shades for you. And, after all, even the very concept of good and evil is purely subjective. Moreover, what one person considers evil, another can easily interpret as good. Both will be right. It’s just that everyone has their own way.
Well, it’s not uncommon for feelings to interfere in assessing a situation. Man is an emotional being. Some to a greater extent, some to a lesser extent.
Many factors influence the behavioral model of an individual person and the model of building relationships.
And, everything is simple for you.
I’ll tell you this... conflicts are different... it’s true ... and the shades are also different... but there are so-called red lines... which are dangerous to cross... Especially for women since, as a rule, they are physically weaker... The aggressor will increase his aggression each time... Well, for example... the first argument may end simply with a slap in the face... After a while, the aggressor will definitely hit with his fist, and after a while... and with nakedness or whatever happens to his friend... Not a single psychologist will approve of physical violence... The reason is that this violence always goes up... If I’m wrong, then give me an example and name me at least one psychologist who approves of violence and advises us to endure it...
It seems to me that you are too simple in your judgments... Thinking that you will be able to re-educate world... This happens in fairy tales... but not in real life... if a man has not been taught to respect a woman... then he will not respect her... if his husband’s father beat his mother all his life, this will be his norm of behavior ... if a woman’s mother often got punched in the teeth by her father and the mother asked for it... then the daughter will do the same in her relationships... endure... or endure and whine...
To you on the forum I’ve already explained and as I can see without really being the only one... To endure humiliation and beatings is not love but a mental disorder... Don’t confuse these concepts... For example... a wife runs into a burning hut and tries to help her husband get out of the fire ... while getting burns and enduring pain... she will continue to save her husband... This is love... But to endure the burns of her husband’s cigarette butts on her body... supposedly for the sake of "love" is schizophrenia...
And also... the model of behavior... is laid in children by their guardians... What is the norm for parents will become the norm for their children... Therefore, children should not see their parents in a quarrel... especially with a fight...
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You’re not telling me about Thomas or Yerema.... Any psychologist will tell you about that that tolerating bullying is not the norm, but a mental deviation... well, if you consider yourself smarter than psychologists... let it be your way... The smartest person in an argument is the one who knows how to stop on time.... :wink:
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I’m not smarter than psychologists, I’m smarter than you. And many times.
Psychologists didn’t tell you this. Not even one psychologist told you this. You decided that they could say that. The smarter in an argument is the one who is smarter.Shalun70: ↑20 Feb 2023, 03:47You’re telling me not about Thomas and about Yerema.... Any psychologist will tell you about that that tolerating bullying is not the norm, but a mental deviation... well, if you think smarter than psychologists... let it be your way... The smartest person in an argument is the one who knows how to stop on time....
I’m not smarter than psychologists, I’m smarter than you. And many times.
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Moreover many times... I think that Uncle Napalion... is now smoking nervously in the old car after seeing the power of your mind...
Well, so as not to be unfounded... please give examples of my stupidity... I will know in which direction I need further development...
Let you be smarter than me... take a pie from the shelf... You deserve it... that’s just what remains unknown to me... It’s wet Explain why I’m more stupid than you?
Moreover many times... I think that Uncle Napalion... is now smoking nervously in the old car after seeing the power of your mind...
Well, so as not to be unfounded... please give examples of my stupidity... I will know in which direction I need further development...
But this is, as I said earlier... a mental disorder... In a water man, at least two people get along... one who loves and the other who does not love and tolerate bullying... But there is another version... one person lives in it, who loves him and loves that he is bullied.
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You cannot talk seriously about a mental disorder without examining the person and without being a psychiatrist. Oh, you already made the diagnosis above. Without knowing the person, from the words of a third party, without being a certified specialist. You have your own point of view and you easily adapt your reasoning to it, but it should be the other way around.Shalun70: ↑20 Feb 2023, 04:15Let you be smarter than me... take a pie from the shelf... You deserve it... that’s just what remains unknown to me... It’s wet Explain why I’m more stupid than you?
Moreover many times... I think that Uncle Napalion... is now smoking nervously in the old car after seeing the power of your mind...
Well, so as not to be unfounded... please give examples of my stupidity... I will know in which direction I need further development...But this is, as I said earlier... a mental disorder... In a water man, at least two people get along... one who loves and the other who does not love and suffers bullying... But there is another version... one person lives in it, who loves him and loves being bullied.
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Firstly, I didn’t specifically talk about anyone... Secondly ... please voice the diagnosis... Which I supposedly made... Do not wishful thinking... I keep track of my fame, unlike you...Marinka: ↑20 Feb 2023, 04:35 You cannot talk seriously about a mental disorder without examining the person and without being a psychiatrist. Oh, you already made the diagnosis above. Without knowing the person, from the words of a third party, without being a certified specialist. You have your own point of view and you easily adapt your reasoning to it, but it should be the other way around.

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Marinka,
You don’t take the word out of context... but quote everything in full...!!!
Unfortunately, you did me too... I had high hopes for you.. but alas...
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