Who loves gyms?)

[Go ahead]

battered psychopaths

I, too, have never seen such a hall in my life. And I visited at least eight different halls in different cities. The people are polite and nice.
If you listen to this character, everyone around him is a psychopath. Whatever the post, it’s some completely wild reasoning. It’s not just that people are grazing here and scribbling sheets. You shouldn’t even respond to him or feed him, because with each post you will see an increasingly wild flight of sick imagination

[Hair shirt]

Lol, you have some very strange hall next door, with some fucked-up rules and it looks like out-of-touch psychopaths work there
In all the halls I’ve been to, there’s basically a cultural, civil attitude, where people are respectful each other, get in line if there are several applicants
I’m afraid that about 20 years ago you ended up in some kind of basement hole where local bigwigs scared you and now you are pouring out your fantasies
I say this in based on the fact that fitness clubs are, first of all, a business, which means club owners will maintain the cultural attitude of clients by pushing toxic people out of the room so as not to scare away clients
Your statement about "beating the fucker" for asking for help should be especially noted with exercise - a normal guy usually enjoys helping others, it’s nice to be a mentor
Trainers can help once, but overall it’s a job for them
Try to find a civil fitness club in the city and see for yourself how frivolous your theses are) )

Apparently you go to some corporate semi-closed hall where everyone is in uniform and where people do everything with caution. So you’ll have a fight with someone in the hall and he will turn out to be a colonel or general on the floor above.
I’m talking about this hall - https:/ /kometa.fit/
The hall is awesome. The room is huge. The exercise equipment is brand new and branded. There are a lot of exercise machines, but there are still not enough for everyone because the gym is awesome and there are a lot of people going there. There is a comfortable changing room and shower. Visitors are given a bracelet for the turnstile to enter and for closing the clothes locker. You come to the locker room, occupy any free locker and then close it with your bracelet.
In the locker room there are good sports scales.

Well, in general, there are no complaints about the hall itself - the best gym in Moscow . Everything is just awesome. Everything that is in the photos on their website is all true.
Here at this link, if you have a good Internet connection and a powerful machine, you can walk around the hall and see everything for yourself - https://ru.matterport.host/7n7rFqcXNG7/?m=7n7rFqcXNG7

It’s just that you’re probably in your room Don’t go to study, but just to absorb the atmosphere and, like, to increase your self-esteem.
I saw a lot of people like that in the gym. There are usually almost a quarter of them there. That is, these are the people who come to the gym without any exercise program. But he just comes, warms up a little on the track and then sees any free exercise machine - he rushes at it and torments it until he gets tired of it, or until someone kicks him out of it. Then he moves on to another free simulator. And so on for about an hour. And then, with a sense of accomplishment, he goes to the locker room.

Or fucks with friends for half an hour if there are any in the room. But in my opinion there is no point in going to the gym like that. Because it’s just a waste of time; going to the gym doesn’t do anything for your physical fitness. Although if someone goes to the gym as if it were a movie theater, then perhaps this also has a right to life.
But for me personally, the gym is a place for strength training, and not for hanging out and absorbing some kind of incomprehensible energy.
But if you finally set yourself some kind of real goal and for this, with the help of a specialist, create a program of strength exercises using certain exercise machines or sports equipment that is in the gym, then you will just encounter with what I described above. And you will be faced with the fact that, say, in the gym there are two or three exercise machines you need. And there are about ten applicants for them at rush hour. And even more. And you need to somehow push with your elbows.

And you will be faced with the fact that in the gym there is some kind of community of those jocks who go to the gym all the time. Either they are security forces or in uniform, or professional athletes, or professional bodybuilders. And they just occupy two of this or that exercise machine and they don’t give a damn about the fact that you need it too. And if some kind of conflict situation arises, then a couple more jocks come up and ask - San, what problems?
And you see four swinging monsters in front of you. And you’re so dead compared to them. So what can you do - dry yourself off and go to some free exercise machine. And there are practically no of them despite the fact that there are many of them.

Especially noteworthy is your statement about “beating the fucker” for asking for help with an exercise - a normal man is usually pleased to help others, it’s nice to be a mentor

You didn’t understand me. This is about something completely different. When someone, say, presses a 50 kg barbell on the chest. Or even the whole hundred.
And at this time someone comes up and asks him - How long do you have to train with this barbell? And at such moments, the one who benches 50 kg wants to put the barbell on the floor and hit it with all his heart.
But you have to put on a positive face and hypocritically portray how happy you are because you just almost dislocated your shoulder for the rest of your life .

[Alyosha]

I’m talking about this hall - https://kometa.fit/
The hall is awesome. The room is huge. The exercise equipment is brand new and branded. There are a lot of exercise machines, but there are still not enough for everyone because the gym is awesome and there are a lot of people going there. There is a comfortable changing room and shower. Visitors are given a bracelet for the turnstile to enter and for closing the clothes locker. You come to the locker room, occupy any free locker and then close it with your bracelet.
In the locker room there are good sports scales.

heh, I hope that when entering in the discussion with you, I did not run into aggressive marketing of this brand XDD (if I did run into it - respect and respect, thin eyeliner)
Secondly, an ordinary, normal club with the same plebeian prices as mine (I went to Spirit, now in DDX), BUT special respect for the 3D model
I went to the website, they have about 3 clubs in Moscow, this is not a lot, especially in the context of the behavior of some club members, namely:
Regardless of the level of your bench press, you must realize that when you come during rush hour, you will be faced with the problem of queues and constant questions "how many more approaches do you have", if the result of the press is a priority for you, you will have to sacrifice comfort and come at another time
In the context of the above, either the club owners will suppress aggression on the part of the jocks, or they will slowly gain clients and will not be able to expand at the pace of competitors
Actually, the points that you voiced indicate that Personally, I’m unlikely to go to this club until the owners adjust their policy

[Hair shirt]

Regardless of the level of your bench press, you must realize that when you come during rush hour, you will be faced with the problem of queues and constant questions "how many more approaches do you have", if the result of the press is a priority for you, you will have to sacrifice comfort and come at another time
In the context of the above, either the club owners will suppress aggression from the jocks, or they will slowly gain clients and will not be able to expand at the pace of competitors

You just need to understand that people usually go to gyms not to build muscle mass, but...
Yes, these people themselves don’t fully know why they go there. Well, I just like all this movement and your involvement in it all. For the most part, people come and rush to the first free machine they come across and do bench presses on it until it seems to them that this machine is probably enough for today. Then he moves on to the next one that is free. And so on until he gets tired. Then onto the treadmill. Or on the treadmill first. Who cares.

These people don’t like dumbbells, they can’t grab the barbell. Well, if it’s beyond the curve. But even that is not all.
That is, these people do not have any exercise program. He just comes to the gym and does whatever he can, believing that it’s better to do at least something than nothing at all. And therefore for these people there are no problems in the hall. These people simply don’t notice anything else and see what they want - drive, beautiful bodies, energy, positivity. Well, and a bunch of other things that he himself comes up with on this topic.

But if you have an exercise program, then the situation is already changing. You don’t go to the gym for energy and other self-invented bullshit. You go to the gym because there are exercise machines and all the sports equipment you need. And there are conditions for performing these exercises.
At home you can afford a certain set - two bars - straight and curved, a set of weights, set dumbbells, a bench. That’s actually all you can afford at home.

In principle, by and large, this set is enough to rock out at home and not walk around any halls. But it seems more comfortable in the gym, and again there are exercise machines, and there are things that you can’t reproduce at home. Let’s say you have reached the level of bench press. And for this you need a barbell rack. Ideally, you need Smith. With it, you can do the bench press safely, without insurance. And not every gym has Smith.

And so you come to the gym and see that everything you need is already taken. And even if you are lucky and one of the exercise machines you need is free, then after working out on it you are faced with the fact that the next exercise machine according to the plan is already occupied. So, what should we do?
Let’s throw away all this politeness and all that, really, what should we do in this situation?
You came to the gym, you have an exercise program, you have limited time. You can’t hang around in this room for half a day. And you need to complete this program on the machines you need. This is exactly why you came to the hall.

Answer yourself this question first of all, and then I think you need to judge someone for something and accuse someone of something. Both the visitors of the hall and its owners. No matter what room there is, there cannot be ten pieces of each exercise machine. This then should be a hall the size of a football field.
The hall to which I sent you a link in 3D, it’s completely framed. There are three simulators there and still there are not enough of them.
Because there are three simulators, and there are ten applicants for them in one unit of time.

[Alyosha]

Let’s discard all these politenesses and all that, here’s the truth what to do in this situation?

very simple:
If for me My priority is physical fitness and at the same time I’m not a stupid moron (who doesn’t understand what rush hour is), then it’s logical to choose a different time for training
Actually, that’s what I did:
I go to bed earlier before training and I get up at 6 in the morning, at 6:30 I’m already in the hall (by the way, at this time there are already people there who came at 6:00 XDD)
My hall (DDX) is also the size of a football field)) not considering the locker rooms are on the ground floor

[Hair shirt]

Before training I go to bed earlier and get up at 6 am, at 6:30 I am already in the gym (by the way, at this time there are already people there who came at 6:00 XDD)
My gym (DDX ) also the size of a football field)) not taking into account the locker rooms which are on the lower floor

I repeat once again. This is all good if you don’t have to go to work. That is, if you are such a rich slacker.
Well, yes. In the morning to the gym, then home. Light breakfast and sleep until twelve. And then all the other things.
And if you have a full-time job and you are an ordinary manager in an office or somewhere in a retail chain.
Or, let’s say, you are a nurse in a hospital, or you are a nurse too work at different times each time.

As a rule, most people work from nine to five. Hence the rush hours in the morning and evening.
And you were so fucked in the gym in the morning and then went to work. Tired, sleep-deprived. Well, how much will you work there and is all this generally beneficial for the body?
You actually go to the gym to improve your health, and not to completely fuck it up.

[Tsverg]

I almost always worked out at home or on the street, I got good muscles and functionality, of course not a pile of muscles.
But this does not mean that there is no point in going to the gym, in the gym you can train heavy weights, or isolated muscles that are in natural movements receive little load. And, rightly, they say that many simply cannot organize themselves in home workouts. And not everyone goes to the hall to show off and dominate, but for purely practical purposes.

And in the hall, yes, I really like to see beautiful figures, or those striving in this direction, and the vibes they emit ". Beautiful female and male bodies - wonderful!

[Alyosha]

As a rule, most people work from nine to five. Hence the rush hours in the morning and evening.
And you were so fucked in the gym in the morning and then went to work. Tired, sleep-deprived. Well, how much will you work out there and is all this generally beneficial for the body?
You actually go to the gym to improve your health, and not completely fuck it up.

to cite as an example a thin layer of overly wealthy people as true adherents of quality training and a healthy lifestyle is strange...
I don’t see a critical difference between bench press at home and bench press in the gym
nPros of home bench press:
- saving 30 minutes on travel
- independence from rush hour
Cons:
- no physical training equipment
- no one will protect you
- many distracting everyday factors (this does not count the pressure on the psyche from the proximity of the sofa, PC and refrigerator XDD)
Advantages of the gym:
- variety of exercise equipment
- total training atmosphere (everyone is benching, running, jumping and it’s psychologically easier to start benching, running, jumping)
- absence of distractions (elastic butts in leggings and enveloping tops without bras make you bench press even more intensely )) I came to a temple where everyone around me radiates the mood to train)
- you can always make friends with someone who trains better, there is someone to ask for advice
Disadvantages:
n- you have to adapt to the time (some have a 2/2 schedule and they generally have a blast)
- you spend time packing your backpack and going back and forth

About not rashes are a matter of discipline and regimen - you can adapt. Without these parameters, you, in principle, will not go to training
Trying to give examples of pumped-up men who have nothing interesting in life except hardware is absurd
It is also absurd to give examples of unemployed majors
nI believe that most ordinary hard workers are sitting here and trying to point out to them that they will not achieve anything in fitness clubs is stupid.
If someone has motivation, work out at home, I advise others to boldly go to the gym or to a section - it will not be worse

[eyes]

I don’t see a critical difference between a home bench press and a bench press in the gym

Personally, I exercise both at home and in the gym. In the summer, still at the sports town.
There is no fundamental difference, I enjoy playing sports in general.

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If someone has motivation, work out at home, I advise others to boldly go to the gym or to a section - it won’t get any worse

That’s for sure!

[Hair shirt]

to cite as an example a thin layer of wealthy people as true adherents of quality training and a healthy lifestyle is strange...

You very accurately voiced the essence of things.
So it is. Working at a machine, driving, on a conveyor belt, in an office - all this is not compatible with training in the gym. Most people go to the gym just for fun and to increase their self-esteem. That is, it is not constant. In general, I would like to look at some indoor statistics of visitor visits. In the hall about which I gave the link above, there is a turnstile to which visitors to the hall apply their personal bracelet when entering. And I think this room has statistics somewhere on their computer.

And you can see these statistics for all positions. And I even think that they have software that monitors visitor statistics and provides results.
And I think that I will not be mistaken if I assume that any gym expects that the majority of those who buy a six-month or a year subscription will rarely go to the gym. And that’s what it’s all about. And that’s why more subscriptions are sold than this hall can accommodate.

But the person is weak, the majority of people who go to the gym are not athletes or security officials, but ordinary people. And at first they get excited, buy a membership, and then, for various reasons, begin to go to the gym less and less often. Well, judge for yourself - there is a blockage at work - today the hall is past. Tomorrow evening there is a meeting with the boss - hall minus. If you catch a cold - the hall is minus.
In the evening guests or relatives should come - the hall is minus. Parents’ meeting at school - hall minus. In the evening, a plumber should come to fix something there - the hall is minus.
I need to go with my wife to the store to look at furniture or something else global - the hall is minus.
I am already silent about the dacha, repairs, fishing, a torn back.

That is, in fact, only very stubborn and very self-focused people can go to the gym regularly. For whom the hall is part of their work. That’s where they go. But there are actually few of them.

[Polk]

I’m just coming to this thread to laugh))) there are so many home musclers here - I’m in awe of you))) please give me a program on how to get pumped up at home, just for fun))))) at the end of the week I have leg day, squats, weights range from 180 to 220 kg (yes, I’m not breaking records, for a 42-year-old it’s quite normal), how can I sit down at 220 at home?

[Hair shirt]

In my opinion, such feats are harmful to health. Your joints will be fucked. Yes, and you can also be injured with a very high probability.
Large weights are very harmful. Again - why?

[weak intestine]

Who likes to fart in the gym?

[Alyosha]

And who likes to fart in the gym?

not that I generally like to fart anywhere, but when you squat with a barbell no, no let it break out)))

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You voiced the essence of things very accurately.
So it is. Working at a machine, driving, on a conveyor belt, in an office - all this is not compatible with training in the gym. Most people go to the gym just for fun and to increase their self-esteem. That is, inconsistent

firstly, let’s not generalize, I can’t go to training after work simply because the gym is crowded, to the point of lack of free booths

Well, judge for yourself - there is a blockage at work - today the hall is past. Tomorrow evening there is a meeting with the boss - hall minus. If you catch a cold - the hall is minus.
In the evening guests or relatives should come - the hall is minus. Parents’ meeting at school - hall minus. In the evening, a plumber should come to fix something there - the hall is minus.
I need to go with my wife to the store to look at furniture or something else global - the hall is minus.
I am already silent about the dacha, repairs, fishing, ripped off back.

secondly, all your points stated above also apply to home training, it is unlikely that you will go to a parent meeting and grab a pack of your iron )) the same applies to other reasons
You did not indicate a single situation where a person could not go to the gym, but could easily train at home

[weak intestine]

It’s not that I generally like to fart anywhere, but when you squat with a barbell no, no, yes it will break out)))

Yes yes ) especially loudly) but then what a thrill and relief) it seems to me that farting is an integral part of sports with heavy weights) and then it’s hard to do exercises from laughter

[A.AN]

I love the hall. I go regularly in the morning. I have a hall and work in neighboring buildings. I arrive at 7, car in the parking lot at work, gym bag on my shoulder and to the gym, 3 days a week strength training, 2 days cardio. I worked out for 1.5 hours, took a shower, changed clothes, put my bag in the car, grabbed my lunch box and went to work. Super)

[Polk]

I love the hall. I go regularly in the morning. I have a hall and work in neighboring buildings. I arrive at 7, car in the parking lot at work, gym bag on my shoulder and to the gym, 3 days a week strength training, 2 days cardio. I worked out for 1.5 hours, took a shower, changed clothes, put my bag in the car, grabbed my lunch box and went to work. Super)

now they’ll blow your mind, why don’t you train at home with 3 kg dumbbells

[A.AN]

now they will blow your mind, why don’t you work out at home with 3 kg dumbbells

There was a period when I worked out at home and on the horizontal bars in the yard. But I like the gym better in the morning. The atmosphere itself is inviting. I came there, there are no options, train, but at home there are a lot of excuses and distractions.