Many women today yearn for the old days. When men...

[Anonymous]

Many women today yearn for the old days. When men desperately and romantically sought them out. They climbed into the windows, wrote poems, gave flowers, wrote declarations of love with paint under the windows. They asked for marriage and gave rings while standing on one knee. What now? They don’t meet people on the street, they don’t give flowers, they don’t go to the registry office. Shredded?

It is of course easier to blame everything on the men themselves. It’s more difficult to accept the idea that the women themselves could have done the grinding. To such an extent that you simply don’t want to do anything romantic for them. What kind of actions are there - even just walking up and casually meeting someone on the street. But why were women previously valued higher than they are now?

It’s unlikely you’ve ever heard of a man’s lifelong dream being to buy a used Lada Granta from a taxi with five owners in the title. . I have never met such strange men. But I often heard them dreaming about a brand new foreign car straight from the car dealership. So that it smells new, there are no scratches, worn out seats and a smoky interior.

The same with girls. I would like to find someone who is clean and decent and become her first. No one makes the dream of their life the one who has already had a lot of men, a couple of failed marriages behind her, and even children in addition. Such a woman cannot be the dream of a lifetime and the motivation for romantic actions. But, alas, most women today have a past. And they demand to treat oneself as a virgin.

Before, a dowry was also attached to the bride’s purity. They offered half a kingdom for the king’s daughter, and a trading post for the merchant’s daughter. And even the peasant’s daughter came with bonuses. Tablecloths, pillows, spoons, calf and kitten. For half a kingdom you can decorate the entire Red Square with declarations of love. For modern girls, who instead of a dowry have a child and a couple of loans - no.

And what kind of girls were skilled before. Already from childhood we were accustomed to work. They could maintain order in the house, bake delicious pies, and grow vegetables in the garden. Cheese was made from milk, a sweater was made from yarn, home coziness and comfort were made from shit and cobwebs. What can a modern girl do today? Order sushi and cook dumplings? But I can do this myself, without her.

And today such a young lady of marriageable age is sitting by the window. She has exchanged more than a dozen sexual partners, with some credit for an iPhone and everyday skills at the “cook scrambled eggs” level. And she wonders why no one dedicates poetry to her or asks her to marry her? And after thoughtfully putting out the cigarette butt and spitting out the window, she decides that all the men are simply goats, shredded, lazy and in general are not worthy of her, the goddess.

[Peace be upon you]

I completely agree with the previous speaker. But the time needs to be specified more precisely - what exactly were the old times? After all, in the days of chivalry and older women in general were something like trophies. Conquered, bought, traded - locked in your house for life and do whatever you want, like with a toy. And the institution of divorce played a cruel joke here. Previously (Soviet times, for example), they approached the choice of a partner more consciously, because it was truly a choice for life, and getting a divorce was so shameful. And before this there was no such concept at all.

[Ella]

We have a progressive society! do not forget

[Vasa007]

Soon the ladies will have to woo men

[Solomon]

Women are mostly to blame, girls are easily accessible everywhere, thus men have learned to have many women without difficulty. But initially, the lack of upbringing of a woman from childhood leads to such consequences and behavior, so it is necessary to raise daughters in a certain rigor and talk about the norms of moral communication with the opposite sex. perhaps then men will begin to look after the girl more carefully and reverently.

[Circus]

Oh, okay, and in the old days, when someone had a problem and another had an itch, they helped each other. Only before it was not advertised.

[Alexei42]

Yes, it was much easier before. Let’s go fuck. That’s all.
Remember how they came to the Central Processing Center and shouted any woman’s name, whoever looks in the windows, you invite them for a walk, well, you blow 90% of them. Well, in the village everything was simpler.
We were already fucking hard in the 8th grade.
And now????
Everyone is smart and well-read. Give everyone a hotel or an apartment. But how can you quickly dance in the toilet or in the entrance?

[A. Omelchenko]

We have a progressive society! don’t forget

Please clarify where our society is progressing into the swamp of opportunism or into the collapse of this very society?! And if in a positive way, then what kind of lard do you need from progressive men?

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Soon ladies will have to woo men

Why soon, in my youth, when I served in the SA, at 76 - 78, and served in Kustanai - the capital of the virgin lands, then at the dances the girls fought for the guys and "removed" them! For 1.5 years I got so used to it that when I came home for DMB, I couldn’t get used to it for a long time! And Ivanovo will be even worse! Two-thirds of our population, aged from 18 to 30 years, were women, not taking younger or older! So in some places this was already the norm!

[Touch-a-Love]

It’s unlikely that you’ve ever heard of a man’s dream of his entire life being to buy a used Lada Granta from a taxi with five owners in the title. I have never met such strange men. But I often heard them dreaming about a brand new foreign car straight from the car dealership. So that it smells new, there are no scratches, worn-out seats or a smoky interior.

It’s the same with girls. I would like to find someone who is clean and decent and become her first. No one makes the dream of their life the one who already had a lot of men, a couple of failed marriages behind her, and even children in addition. Such a woman cannot be the dream of a lifetime and the motivation for romantic actions. But, alas, most women today have a past. And they demand to treat themselves like a virgin.

The topic started well, but this disgusting comparison still revealed the essence of the TS. Consumerist and misogynistic. This is written by a person who is nostalgic for a time in which he did not live, but he himself treats a woman as... That’s right, as a car, as a thing, as his property. Which he will buy for money. With all my heart I wish such so-called men, who see a woman only as a thing, to ride exclusively in rusty Ladas from apricot traders.

[Ogest]

It’s the same with girls. I want to find someone who is clean and decent, to become her first.

Why does she need you?

[AlexTDV]

as usual, the tears of a poor loser who is not given - how bad all women are)) he needs to prepare a virgin, a beautiful one, so that she can earn money herself and not ask, or better yet, give it to her, with her own car and apartment, laughing at your wet fantasies) )))

[SeRg !$!]

It’s all sad...I’ll bring everyone down a little from heaven to earth from their pink vanilla clouds.
everything is bought and sold, the only question is the size of the zeros after the one...and what is not sold is won (and I’m not talking about serenades under balconies) almost all literature is just idealized romantic fantasies. So let’s not pretend to be romantics and fighters for justice. and if there are directly ideological ones, then they can be bought or broken.
It was there and will be!

[Lisa24]

Well, what a speck
who are these many women? and now there is enough romance and all sorts of cuteness
the whole subject is stuffed with stereotypes, filled with resentment and generally unclear what? I still don’t understand what the user wanted to convey, didn’t carry and didn’t convey

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

all of this is sad...I’ll bring everyone down a little from heaven to earth from their pink vanilla clouds.
everything is bought and sold, the only question is the size of the zeros after the one...and what is not sold is won (and I’m not talking about serenades under balconies) almost all literature is just idealized romantic fantasies. So let’s not pretend to be romantics and fighters for justice. and if there are directly ideological ones, then they can be bought or broken.
This was, is and will be!

it’s like you can buy a woman, is that what you’re talking about?

[Lisa24]

it’s like you can buy a woman, are you talking about that?

of course you can. and not only a woman and not only for money
such is the material world in which we live

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

it’s like you can buy a woman, is that what you’re talking about?

Of course you can. And not only a woman and not only for money
such is the material world in which we live

you can’t buy absolutely everyone, and even more so , so say people who themselves are ready to sell themselves for a crumb of bread

[Lisa24]

this is the type of woman you can buy, you about this?

of course you can. and not only a woman and not only for money
such is the material world in which we live

It is impossible to buy absolutely everyone, and even more so, that’s what people say who are ready to sell themselves for a crumb of bread

absolute does not exist in nature))
so say people who bought it themselves))you can buy not only for material goods May Darling

[aryamari]

and everyday skills at the level of

maybe for the hero "PPP - beer belly porn" and scrambled eggs is too much? :ireful1 :

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

of course it is possible. and not only for a woman and not only for money
such is the material world in which we We live

It is impossible to buy absolutely everyone, and even more so, that’s what people say who are ready to sell themselves for a crumb of bread

absolutes do not exist in nature))
that’s what people who bought themselves say))you can buy not only for material goods May Darling

oh, just don’t need these addresses, like May Darling and so on, I’m talking to you normally, why be sarcastic? Give an example of what you can buy a person for.

[Lisa24]

what can you buy a person for, give an example.

power, health, fame, beauty, skills just off the top of my head))

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

what you can buy a person for, give an example.

power, health, fame, beauty, skills are just off the top of my head))

off the top of my head this is not it.. I want to know real examples from life, who sold out and for what. In general, what you wrote is money, only in different quantities.

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absolutes do not exist in nature))

I agree, they don’t exist, why do they exist people who claim that absolutely everyone! can buy? Are you contradicting yourself? Did you ask everyone?

[Lisa24]

what can you buy a person for, give an example.

power, health, fame, beauty, skills just off the top of my head))

off the top of my head this is not the case... I would like to know real life examples of who sold out and for what. In general, what you wrote is money, only in different amounts.

no, it’s not money. Power is not always connected with money, skills also health and fame. There is more of an emotional component and dependence. What do you mean by real examples? How did someone sell out for a position? so there are plenty of them, why shake the air?

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

power, health, fame, beauty, skills just off the top of my head))

offhand this is not the case... I would like to know real life examples of who sold out and for what. In general, what you wrote is money, only in different amounts.

no, it’s not money. Power is not always connected with money, skills also health and fame. There is more of an emotional component and dependence. What do you mean by real examples? How did someone sell out for a position? there are so many of them, why bother?

I mean that someone paid someone to get this person promoted.

But the topic is not about this, but about women and romance, which does not exist.

[Lisa24]

I agree, it doesn’t exist, why are there people who claim that Absolutely everyone! can buy? Are you contradicting yourself? I asked everyone, everyone?

in what place did I claim that you can buy absolutely everyone?)) where are the contradictions? What am I missing) there will always be exceptions but they only confirm the rule

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

I agree, it doesn’t exist, why are there people who claim that Absolutely everyone! can buy? Are you contradicting yourself? I asked everyone, everyone?

in what place did I claim that you can buy absolutely everyone?)) where are the contradictions? What am I missing) there will always be exceptions but they only confirm the rule

you agreed with the statement of the previous speaker, which means you share his point of view. And he just wrote about the fact that EVERYONE is corrupt.

[Lisa24]

I mean that someone paid someone to get this person promoted.

nBut the topic is not about that, but about women and romance, which does not exist.

why did you pay right away? they can give you a position without paying you. Let’s say it’s vacant, but with what conditions, for example
I wrote not only about women) and clearly outlined my terms of reference

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

I mean that someone paid someone to get this person promoted.

But the topic is not about that, but about women and romance, which does not exist.

why did you pay right away? They can give you a position without paying you. Let’s say it’s vacant, but with what conditions, for example
I wrote not only about women) and clearly outlined my terms of reference

so, when you like the opinions of other forum members in a topic, you do not agree with their opinion? Why do you like?.. well, I’m really interested) I never do that)

[Lisa24]

You agreed with the statement of the previous speaker, which means you share his point of view. And he just wrote about the fact that EVERYONE is corrupt.

but that doesn’t mean anything) where does such categoricalness come from? I agreed with part of the statement and explained my opinion) there is no need to attach speculation and other people’s posts to me) I write for myself and there was absolutely nothing in my words

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starts when you you like the opinions of other forum members in a topic, do you disagree with their opinion? Why do you like?.. well, I’m really interested) I never do that)

I like for various reasons. I may like a statement, I may partially agree with it, I can like it as support, or if I generally like a person’s taste, such as in music, for example. But this does not necessarily mean that I share every letter or opinion entirely)

[Sibiryak89]

this is the type of woman you can buy, you about this?

of course you can. and not only a woman and not only for money
such is the material world in which we live

It is impossible to buy absolutely everyone, and even more so, that’s what people say who are ready to sell themselves for a crumb of bread

nBut not everyone can buy, some don’t have money, others are happy, but they are shy or don’t know how, final, everyone is alone

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what can you buy a person for, give an example.

power, health, fame, beauty, skills are offhand))

offhand this is not it.. I would like to know real examples from life, who sold out and for what. In general, what you wrote is money, only in different quantities.

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absolutes do not exist in nature))

I agree, they don’t exist, why do they exist people who claim that absolutely everyone! can buy? Are you contradicting yourself? Did I just ask everyone?

In the department there is a married girl, a beautiful one, who sits in the position of leading specialist, she has been there for 3 years and there has been no progress, but offers have been received for carparatives and oh, miracle, immediately deputy head of the department, and a year later she became the head smart, no, talented, no, beautiful , Yes, and agreed to become a “girlfriend,” deputy. head of department. My career took off, my mortgage was paid off, my daughter studied at a lyceum, etc.
I don’t judge, I just followed the example of others in 3 years, I realized that there is such a way

[Mitry]

Everything goes on as usual.
If you don’t like modern women, then don’t eat.
If you really want, even now you can find a woman who adheres to the old principles of life, a believer, a virgin, a housewife, etc.
Many acquaintances from 30 to 50 live alone and do not suffer much from this.
Now the economic prerequisites for starting a family and having children have disappeared. Every person can live life alone. That’s all. Expediency as it is

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

You agreed with the statement of the previous speaker, which means you share his point of view. And he just wrote about the fact that EVERYONE is corrupt.

but that doesn’t mean anything) where does such categoricalness come from? I agreed with part of the statement and explained my opinion) there is no need to attach speculation and other people’s posts to me) I write for myself and there was absolutely nothing in my words

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starts when you you like the opinions of other forum members in a topic, do you disagree with their opinion? Why do you like?.. well, I’m really interested) I never do that)

I like for various reasons. I may like a statement, I may partially agree with it, I can like it as support, or if I generally like a person’s taste, such as in music, for example. But this does not necessarily mean that I share every letter or opinion in its entirety)

clear

[Ogest]

No one makes the dream of their life the one who already had a lot of men, a couple of failed marriages behind her, and even children to boot.

And what if without children?

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

No one makes the dream of their life the one who already had a lot of men, a couple of failed marriages behind her, and even children to boot.

And if without children?

he won’t answer you anymore.. he wrote this 3.5 years ago)

[Ogest]

he won’t answer you anymore.. he wrote this 3.5 years ago)

Maybe he has a new incarnation on the forum. In the next topic they are discussing clones.

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

he won’t answer you anymore.. he wrote this 3.5 years ago)

Maybe he has a new incarnation on the forum. In the next topic they are discussing clones.

well, yes.. maybe maybe)

[Mancuso]

almost all literature is just idealized romantic fantasies. So let’s not pretend to be romantics and fighters for justice
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it’s all sad...I’ll bring everyone down a little from heaven to earth with their pink vanilla clouds.
everything is bought and sold only in the amount of zeros after the one...and what is not sold is won (and I’m not talking about serenades under balconies) almost all literature is just idealized romantic fantasies. So let’s not pretend to be romantics and fighters for justice. and if there are directly ideological ones, then they can be bought or broken.
It was and will be!

A little exaggerated, it seems to me, but in in general - yes. And the main thing is that this really has always been the case. Everything has its final price. You can argue about morality and moral principles at different times in general, but at the same time, at all times there were women/girls who consciously chose profit instead of "pure sublime relationships." There were men who renounced their position, the inheritance of their parents for the sake of the only one with whom heaven is in the hut, so what? If you read such stories, which by the way are real, then, as a rule, this did not end well. And literature, including ours, that which is considered to be a classic (not modern pink shit) is full of works where all this ins and out is revealed and described. This is the human essence and you can’t escape it. Everyone makes their own choice. There will always be good and evil, white and black - otherwise utopia.

[SeRg !$!]

◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊,
You can buy anyone...it sounds rude to buy, but if you have a lot of money you can arrange it so that no one can resist...

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

Lisa24, so which part of the statement did you agree with? So he directly says that he meant that everyone is corrupt.

[Lisa24]

Lisa24, so which part of the statement did you agree with? Here he directly says that he meant that everyone is corrupt.

with this one. and by the way, you added the word absolutely))

everything is bought and sold only in the amount of zeros after one...and what is not sold is conquered...and if there are direct ideological ones, then they can be bought or broken

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

Lisa24, so which part of the statement did you agree with? Here he directly says that he meant that everyone is corrupt.

with this one. and by the way, you added the word absolutely))

everything is bought and sold only in the amount of zeros after one...and what is not sold is conquered...and if there are direct ideological ones, then they can be bought or broken

everything and absolutely is not the same thing? He made his position clear.

[Lisa24]

Lisa24, so who are you with? Did you agree with part of the statement? Here he directly says that he meant that everyone is corrupt.

with this one. and by the way, you added the word absolutely))

everything is bought and sold only in the amount of zeros after one...and what is not sold is conquered...and if there are direct ideological ones, then they can be bought or broken

everything and absolutely is not the same thing? He clearly outlined his position.

no, not the same. The word absolutely does not imply exceptions, unlike simply everything.
what? and I outlined mine when I answered you. And what’s more, I explained it
Why did you decide to drag me down for someone else’s words? It’s so empty.

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

with this one. And by the way, you added the word absolutely))

isn’t everything and absolutely the same thing? He clearly outlined his position.

no, not the same. The word absolutely does not imply exceptions, unlike simply everything.
what? and I outlined mine when I answered you. And what’s more, I explained it
Why did you decide to drag me down for someone else’s words? It’s so empty.

everything is not everything, this is only half, but absolutely - this is all, 100500%.. did I understand correctly?)) Maybe I should ask him? I already know what his answer will be..
It’s just that you’re a girl and I’m wondering why you like an obviously erroneous judgment.
This is not an argument for the sake of argument, but for the sake of interest.

[Lisa24]

everything and absolutely not the same the most? He clearly outlined his position.

no, not the same. The word absolutely does not imply exceptions, unlike simply everything.
what? and I outlined mine when I answered you. And what’s more, I explained it
Why did you decide to drag me down for someone else’s words? It’s so empty.

everything is not everything, this is only half, but absolutely - this is all, 100500%.. did I understand correctly?)) Maybe I should ask him? I’m already wondering what he’ll answer..
It’s just that you’re a girl and I’m wondering why you like an obviously erroneous judgment.
This is not an argument for the sake of argument, but for the sake of interest.

the simple word everything implies exceptions; the phrase absolutely everything means that there are no exceptions.
in my humble opinion, the statement is extremely correct; it stipulates all the conditions, including breaking. And I never mentioned that I like it. These are the realities of the world in which we live. It’s simple. If I agree with someone, it doesn’t mean I like it and it doesn’t mean that I agree with everything completely. I already said this above and now we’re not even arguing, we’re repeating ourselves. and this is boring
*the horse is dead.get off it

[A. Omelchenko]

It was and will be!

Not always and not all! The idea is much higher than the money and if for you money is everything, then I honestly feel sorry for you!

[SeRg !$!]

if there were not limited funds, then you could buy anything, including you ◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊ ... an example is easy, even though I don’t know you, imagine that every day you receive bouquets of flowers with a card and a request for on a date...yes, yes, you’re not like that and you can’t understand who you’re not dating and the flowers are at least stupid to stand on your table, but after a while you receive a bouquet and a package containing beautiful underwear, cool shoes and a beautiful dress and an invitation, no matter the theater or restaurant... but no, you’re not like that, but the admirer doesn’t back down and gifts arrive at your home in the morning, the courier brings a bouquet and a basket of fruit... and sooner or later, your curiosity will take over, who is this secret admirer and what does he care about anyway? it’s necessary because he’s not asking for sex or anything else, he’s just asking for a meeting in a public place, well, what could happen... oh no, you’re not like that and you can’t be broken by your wall. Are you sure?

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

if you had unlimited funds, you could buy anything, including you ◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊ ... an example is easy even though I don’t know you but imagine that every day you receive bouquets of flowers with a card and a request for a date... yes, yes, you’re not like that and you can’t understand who you’re not dating, and the flowers are at least stupid to stand on your table, but after a while you receive a bouquet and a package in which it’s beautiful underwear, cool shoes and a beautiful dress and an invitation, it doesn’t matter whether it’s a theater or a restaurant... but no, you’re not like that, but the fan doesn’t back down and gifts arrive at your home in the morning, the courier brings a bouquet and a basket of fruit... and sooner or later it’s yours curiosity will take over, who is this secret admirer and what does he need anyway, he’s not asking for sex or anything else, he’s just asking for a meeting in a public place, well, what could happen... oh no, you’re not like that and you can’t be broken by your wall YOU are you sure?

don’t throw your wet, disgusting fantasies at me

[SeRg !$!]

a.omelchenko,
Feel sorry for me there is no need to feel sorry for yourself (you are not even educated, what can you talk about )
The truth is often so bitter that you live in in this illusory world, trying to idealize everything and everyone...
Not everyone agrees with money, not everyone agrees, but the masses are sold on an idea for which everyone pays, some with loot and some with their lives... give an example of what money alone cannot buy let’s not talk about spiritual things ok? (although modern churches have even erased this fact)

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◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊ ,
why are they wet??? and even more disgusting (in flowers during the courtship process?) or are you afraid that someone might fall in love with you? what is abomination

[triangle]

sooner or later your curiosity will get the better of who this secret admirer is and what does he really need because he’s not asking for sex or anything else, he’s just asking to meet in a public place, so what? maybe it will happen

If curiosity trumps reason, then it is possible. But if you think about it, the three most likely options are: (a) a lover but a fool, (b) a maniac, (c) an attempt at recruitment by the secret services.

[SeRg !$!]

triangle,
rich fool )) ... the maniac has never met anyone like him))... recruiting a salesperson? accountant? , manicurist? (all professions are needed, all professions are important)

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

a.omelchenko,
You don’t need to feel sorry for me, feel sorry for yourself (you’re not even educated, what can you talk about )
The truth is often so bitter that you live in this illusory world trying to idealize everything and everyone...
Not everyone agrees with money, not everyone agrees, but the masses are being sold an idea for which everyone pays, who is the loot and who is and your life... give an example of what money can’t buy, just let’s not talk about the spiritual, ok? (although modern churches have even erased this fact)

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◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊ ,
why are they wet??? and even more disgusting (in flowers during the courtship process?) or are you afraid that someone might fall in love with you? what is abominable

in the meaning you put into it. If from the bottom of your heart, you liked the girl very much and you want to be with her, but it’s another thing if you’re doing it for show and then telling your friends how you dragged another one into bed.

nA woman is not bought with flowers and lingerie, she is won by a selfless attitude towards her, care and love.
Piles of flowers, a yacht, a Lamborghini at the entrance - these are more like the manipulations of a person who urgently needs to get someone.