Fertilization upon request

[N@TyPaL]

I wanted to ask you what you would do if a very good friend whom you have known each other for a long time asked about sperm donation? A single woman in her 40s wants to give birth for herself, but cannot afford an expensive donation program through a clinic. This is not happening in our post-Soviet countries, which complicates the documentary process. But there is also a psychological and moral aspect - how can a man relate to this, in terms of later participating in the life of this child?

[Megapups]

I hope by “sperm donation” we mean ordinary sexual intercourse?
The man is married, has children, how many children, what age are the children?

[The passage]

If a man is tall, handsome, with a high level of intelligence and he was approached with such a request, then there is probably nothing strange about it. If he wants to participate in the life of his unborn child, then probably nothing can stop him from doing so. Or if he doesn’t want to, then there won’t be any problems either.
But if a man is just average, in appearance, in figure, in intelligence, then perhaps there is some kind of catch hidden in this request.

[Tanya]

Nothing is impossible. By the way, there is a film about this problem"Child by November"

[Ogest]

I definitely wouldn’t agree to that.

[Andrey Lukashov]

If a man is tall, handsome, with a high level of intelligence and he was approached with such a request, then there is probably nothing strange about it. If he wants to participate in the life of his unborn child, then probably nothing can stop him from doing so. Or if he doesn’t want to, then there won’t be any problems either.
But if a man is just average, in appearance, in figure, in intelligence, then perhaps there is some kind of catch hidden in this request.

Absolutely agree. But such cases are not so rare. I haven’t been married yet, my cousin asked me to make a child for her friend, who worked as a teacher at the institute and, according to her sister, had a very bad character, because at the age of 35 she was still unmarried and even virgin. We later met at my sister’s house and she refused to be a girl at all. My daughter there is now an adult, but she doesn’t know anything about me. My relationship with her is still normal. Despite the fact that she is already married and happy with her husband, they have no children together. My relationship is friendly and when we meet, it’s usually somewhere where we can get laid.

[The passage]

If a man is tall, handsome, with a high level of intelligence and he was approached with such a request, then there is probably nothing strange about it. If he wants to participate in the life of his unborn child, then probably nothing can stop him from doing so. Or if he doesn’t want to, then there won’t be any problems either.
But if a man is just average, in appearance, in figure, in intelligence, then perhaps there is some kind of catch hidden in this request.

Absolutely agree. But such cases are not so rare. I haven’t been married yet, my cousin asked me to make a child for her friend, who worked as a teacher at the institute and, according to her sister, had a very bad character, because at the age of 35 she was still unmarried and even virgin. We later met at my sister’s house and she refused nothing at all. My daughter there is now an adult, but she doesn’t know anything about me. Our relationship with that friend is also normal. Despite the fact that she is already married and happy with her husband, they have no children together. The relationship with me is friendly and when we meet, it’s usually somewhere where you can get laid.

Everything turned out well for you, and I recently saw a program where a girl asked make her a child, and then filed a claim against the man for alimony. They did a genetic examination and the court awarded her alimony. The man was upset, of course; he apparently had no intention of supporting the child.

[Andrey Lukashov]

Everything turned out well for you, and I recently saw a program where a girl asked to make her a child, and then filed a claim against the man for alimony. They did a genetic examination and the court awarded her alimony. The man was upset, of course, he apparently had no intention of supporting the child.

I was young then and didn’t even think about it, but my sister hardly offered me anything bad. I was still dating that girl when she was already pregnant. He offered to get married, but she smiled and always reminded me that she was 9 years older than me. Then she went to her parents for several years in another city, and then also to Italy. She returned when I was already married, and my daughter was 4 years old. Now I have feelings both good and bad. It’s nice to have a daughter who is growing up smart and beautiful. And when I think that this is my daughter, but knows nothing about me, I don’t want to live. Today I could fully provide for both her and her mother, but they simply don’t need it.

[The passage]

Everything turned out well for you, and I recently saw a program where a girl asked to make her a child, and then filed a claim against the man for alimony. They did a genetic examination and the court awarded her alimony. The man was upset, of course, he apparently had no intention of supporting the child.

I was young then and didn’t even think about it, but my sister hardly offered me anything bad. I was still dating that girl when she was already pregnant. He offered to get married, but she smiled and always reminded me that she was 9 years older than me. Then she went to her parents for several years in another city, and then also to Italy. She returned when I was already married, and my daughter was 4 years old. Now I have feelings both good and bad. It’s nice to have a daughter who is growing up smart and beautiful. And when I think that this is my daughter, but knows nothing about me, I don’t want to live. Today I could fully provide for both her and her mother, but they simply don’t need it.

You feel uneasy, but many men have their own children are not needed. They don’t communicate, they don’t pay child support.

[Andrey Lukashov]

You feel uneasy, but many men don’t need their own children. They don’t communicate, they don’t pay child support.

It depends on the person and his upbringing. The only thing I’m starting to think about more and more often now is that I wouldn’t have done this today. As for me, you can play any games, but if the question is about children, this is something that cannot be done under any circumstances. A child is born defenseless and not to blame for appearing in a place where there is nothing that exists in a normal family.

[The passage]

You feel uneasy, but many men don’t need their own children. They don’t communicate, they don’t pay child support.

It depends on the person and his upbringing. The only thing I’m starting to think about more and more often now is that I wouldn’t have done something like that already. As for me, you can play any games, but if the question is about children, this is something that cannot be done under any conditions. A child is born defenseless and not guilty that he appeared in a place where there is nothing that is in a normal family.

No. You shouldn’t regret it. You gave life to a person. Your daughter, without you, would never have appeared on this Earth) She had the only chance to live and without you she simply would not have existed.

[Andrey Lukashov]

No. You shouldn’t regret it. You gave life to a person. Your daughter, without you, would never have appeared on this Earth) She had the only chance at life and without you she simply would not have existed

That’s just this It calms me down. Nothing more, alas.

[The passage]

No. You shouldn’t regret it. You gave life to a person. Your daughter, without you, would never have appeared on this Earth) She had the only chance at life and without you she simply would not have existed

That’s just this It calms me down. Unfortunately, nothing more.

In my opinion, this fact is more than enough to stop regretting that this happened

[Andrey Lukashov]

If my daughter knew that I was her father and even occasionally communicated with me, I would not want anything else. I understand that my father is the one who raised and raised me, so I don’t pretend to anything. When I see her mother, I feel uncomfortable even talking about this topic. I just ask what she might need.

[The passage]

If my daughter knew that I was her father and even occasionally communicated with me, I would not want anything else. I understand that my father is the one who raised and raised me, so I don’t pretend to anything. When I see her mother, I feel uncomfortable even talking about this topic. I’m just asking what she might need.

You will talk about this topic.

[romance book]

with a high level of intelligence

what do you mean by a high level of intelligence? For example?

[The passage]

with a high level of intelligence

what do you mean by a high level of intelligence? for example?

When a person is really smart and doesn’t pretend to be.

[romance book]

When a person is really smart

what does smart mean? Well, for example... That is, a woman chooses such a male to create children, and so that he is smart.. does this mean that he can do or know something?

[The passage]

When a person is really smart

what does smart mean? Well, for example... That is, a woman chooses such a male to create children, and so that he is smart.. does this mean that he can do or know something?

n Let’s imagine two men. Educated. One is a doctor of science in history, the other in mathematics. Can you call them smart? At first glance it seems yes. They have a lot of information on their profile. But they will not be able to evaluate each other, because the historian’s knowledge in mathematics may turn out to be more than mediocre, and mathematics in history. Well, we won’t be able to evaluate either one or the other. At first sight. But we overheard them talking about the coronavirus pandemic. One says he will not get vaccinated. - Why? - another asks him. - Oh, because it won’t be of any use. He read that people are microchipped, the vaccine sterilizes, kills, but there is no virus at all and it was simply made up. - Where could you read this? The interlocutor is perplexed. - If you want, you will find it. Our other doctor of sciences begins to cite statistics and articles of scientists he has read. But his interlocutor only chuckles.
They are both educated. But only one of them is smart. He is inquisitive, he knows how to work with information. Knows how to look for it and where. He doesn’t understand anything about medicine, but he needs to know how to behave, what to do. He searches for information, filters it, separating everything unnecessary and draws conclusions for himself, and then makes a decision. With such a person it is reliable, with such a person it is interesting, with such a person it is easy. He could be anyone, a mathematician, a historian, a biologist, a teacher, a doctor, a policeman, a fireman, an electrician or a plumber. He may not have a higher education at all, but he has high intelligence and he is undoubtedly smart.
And, our second is a fool with low intelligence, although he has a diploma and knowledge, and its volume is probably very large .
You don’t need a lot of intelligence to make children. You need intelligence to be calm and reliable with a man.

[romance book]

Intellect is needed to be calm and reliable with a man.

And if a man is stupid, but at the same time earns a lot of money? then which one is better suited for starting a family?, who is smart but earns little, or stupid but earns a lot?
Stupid - for example, he is some kind of marketer, or from a field where you need to do sales, communicate with clients, be able to sell. .but you don’t have to be smart. Or a singer or some kind of actor.

And the woman herself may be smart

[The passage]

Intellect is needed to be calm and reliable with a man.

And if a man is stupid, but at the same time earns a lot of money? then which one is better suited for starting a family?, who is smart but earns little, or stupid but earns a lot?
Stupid - for example, he is some kind of marketer, or from a field where you need to do sales, communicate with clients, be able to sell. .but you don’t have to be smart. Or a singer or some kind of actor.

And a woman herself can be smart

A stupid person cannot earn money much money. But he can earn more than a smart person.
You are preoccupied with a completely useless question. We don’t have that choice. We can, of course, make a whole list of what we want to see in a future chosen one, and then throw it away, burn and forget.
If on this topic, then of course, if we are simply choosing a fertilizer, then of course he must be good outwardly and not stupid. When you start a family, it turns out that whoever you fall in love with is the one with the children. Ah, love, as the saying goes, is often evil)))

[romance book]

You are preoccupied with a completely useless question. We don’t have that choice.

The author of the topic is probably in demand among women. But why does he need to be smart? he just needs to fertilize and that’s all, and for this he needs to be beautiful, tall and slender. Or will intelligence be inherited?

[The passage]

You are preoccupied with a completely useless question. We don’t have that choice.

The author of the topic is probably in demand among women. But why does he need to be smart? he just needs to fertilize and that’s all, and for this he needs to be beautiful, tall and slender. Or will intelligence be inherited?

We have a lot of things that are inherited.

[N@TyPaL]

Not married and never was, no children. On the one hand, I would like to somehow extend my gene pool and insure myself if suddenly I don’t manage to create my own family and have my own children. It’s also already approaching 40, well, there are still a couple of years left, but you still need to be prepared that it may not be possible to meet a suitable woman. Of course, ideally I would like to create my own family, but practice shows that I somehow don’t get into long-term relationships; at most, in my youth, three years was enough for me. Since then, I have never been able to meet a woman who could be a friend first and foremost and with whom I would like to build a family.

What is the advantage of donation - I will undergo a full analysis with doctors, spermograms, a general picture of health and all that. At the same time, I’ll find out for myself how high-quality my biological material is, and the idea of ​​continuing the family line is of course warming. The downside is that it will be a process and not a quick one, there is always a risk that something will go wrong. The potential mother has already had several unsuccessful attempts and is already postpartum herself. About 20 years ago, not many people even decided to get pregnant after 40.

Well, and the most important thing is that you never know what to expect from a woman, and even without being in some kind of relationship with her and knowing only what lies on the surface. Will she be a good mother? Suddenly, her desire to jump into the last carriage will quickly evaporate when she actually faces all the difficulties. I won’t feel comfortable if the child suffers in the end, she can cut off any communication at any moment, and I won’t even know what’s there and how. Simply having a child and never finding out about his fate is also an unpleasant prospect.

I just observe the stories of friends, how women deal with the fathers of their children even after many years of marriage. Against this background, donation looks like a complete gamble without any guarantees. The laws are tailored against white men as much as possible, and of course I don’t want to take risks either. Even if the papers spell out exemption from alimony and all sorts of force majeure, I will have to hire my own lawyer to check all this... and there is simply a danger that she could simply die during childbirth! It’s not for nothing that these clinics charge huge sums for donation and fully accompany the process, so that the potential father and mother never cross paths in life. When people know each other and are familiar with each other, it takes on a completely different shade and degree of responsibility...