Is she a kept woman or not?

[in AlikLorea]

I met a girl on Tinder. She is 22 years old. I’m 32!) She takes manicure courses, teaches future manicurists, runs TikTok, seems to be +- successfully, she has students, at 22 she supports herself, rents an apartment, etc. The only thing is that, as she said, her parents are poor and can barely provide for themselves with money. Therefore, she already started working from the age of 13-14 and began to provide for herself from the age of 17.
We only had three dates, on the first date we already discussed where to go on vacation in two months and what a wedding should be like, but overall it was of course + - it was all in jest, but I also like such conversations!) Because now, due to my age, I want a serious relationship and a family!)
So , on the third date I asked her to meet!) On the third date we kissed.
The next day I receive a text message from her, with a photo of the jacket in the fitting room, asking which color is better, gray or white, and I really felt for her what does this do, then she writes, she forgot the money at home..., well, I ask, do you want me to send you some money? She’s like, could you??? Well, in general, it’s not about the money, the jacket was a show-off, but the fact is that although I offered to meet and a girl can ask for such things, but not on the trail. the day we started dating! In principle, that’s what I wrote to her, but we agreed to meet in the evening.
In the evening I came to her, and there we first discussed this moment and her understanding of the relationship. In general, all its understanding comes down to content! That is, she said that she would like her boyfriend-husband to fully provide for her, that is, to give her money for cosmetologists and all sorts of procedures, to buy clothes, pay for sports with a coach, etc. And naturally she wanted me to start renting an apartment in a new residential complex and we would start living together there.
For me, of course, it all sounded very wild and very mercantile.
Although I really In fact, I think that a man in general should be like this, but this applies to a family, when you have already formed some kind of relationship, when you already live together, and a family appears, naturally, a man must provide for his girlfriend completely, because you are already like one whole! But at the very beginning of a relationship, when all this is discussed to be done now, right away... It’s somehow very strange!))
In short, we discussed all this with her, I told her that I had to think about everything. That evening I stayed with her!) We had sex! The sex was just beyond words! Overall, probably one of the best in my life)) And it’s just about the comfort of being nearby, when thoughts fly away and you dissolve in a person!)
The next day, already at home, I sat and played a session!)) Received from her long letter in which she described how she sees our future relationship, there she described that she would like to receive money from me for the gym, for something else when we live together, food for me, clothes, cosmetics on it, etc.
P.S. during our evening conversation, I told her that I play poker, in addition to poker, I also have a family business and real estate, etc. that is, I have money, but it’s family money. Not mine. At this moment in time, I am trying to develop and increase my money and my profit thanks to poker. Therefore, I am not so rich that I could now fully provide for you, but I can cover some of your expenses!)
That’s why she wrote in a letter the next day, supposedly as an alternative, what is important to her and what would be invested in my "budget" )))
In response to this letter of hers, I wrote to her briefly and dryly that I was not yet ready for such a relationship. I wrote this with the thoughts that she is a kept woman, who is very materialistic, with whom it will not be possible to build a happy family, that as soon as I have problems with money, or she finds someone richer, she will immediately go to him, etc. From the beginning I formed exactly this image of her.
Looking ahead, I began to think about her and that she is 22 years old, that she really runs TikTok, she has clients and she makes money. Her attitude towards money is not cold calculation and commercialism, but a consequence of her upbringing, a consequence of the fact that her parents are very poor and she would like to feel and experience weakness and protection from a man, both in the form of money and in the form of banal protection.
Coming back ago, after I wrote this to her, she deleted our correspondence, but then almost immediately she started writing a lot of messages like, let’s talk everything over, I don’t want to lose you, I liked you, we can discuss everything, I didn’t want you offend, etc.
I was frozen by these messages, then she called, I didn’t answer either. And in general, she then deleted the correspondence again and we didn’t communicate with her anymore.
But two weeks have already passed, but I constantly think about her. Even though we really knew each other for 3 days. But I liked some things regarding everyday life, leisure time, people’s attitude towards work that we discussed, I liked everything, we are very similar in this. And analyzing my feelings, I realized that I was comfortable next to her, and this is very important!
And if you think about her not as a mercantile kept woman, but with the thought that she is normal, with the normal needs of love, a family of children and is capable of building strong relationships, etc., but at the same time having such a feature associated with money, then for me the moment of money is no longer so stressful!
That is, I would like to believe that she really , sweet, honest, straightforward and without any thoughts about how to deceive or extract more money, then I would really like to renew the relationship and try to build something!))

In general, something like this...)))) I would really like to hear your opinion in general regarding such girls, has anyone had experience communicating with such girls and what do you think from the outside looks like my desire to renew communication and relationship with her, it’s just because we had good sex and by giving her money, I’m just conditionally signing up for good sex and some emotions, etc. Or maybe this is the situation when you feel that you are needed, that you can "Save" "Provide" and thanks to this you will feel some kind of power over the situation and over the person. Or maybe it’s love and a desire to learn about spending time with a person with whom you have many common interests and views on life?)))
Damn..... I hope this was at least a little interesting to someone and there will be an opportunity to discuss on this topic!))

And then February 14th is coming soon and if I decide to resume communication with her, then I will need to have time to arrange the delivery of roses to her door...))) ) I think 51-one rose will be normal!)))

[Ufa guy]

Fuck, you’re being bred like a mammoth. Later in life, (if you agree to her terms) don’t be surprised if you wait for her at home while at work she’s fucking with all her might with the same fool who will also pay her back.

[in AlikLorea]

Holy shit, I needed an answer like that, fuck her!!!!)))

[Tamerlane]

Otherwise, February 14th is coming soon and if I decide to resume communication with her, then I will need to have time to arrange the delivery of roses to her door...)))) I think 51-one rose will be normal!)))

You have already decided everything for yourself. You are with her.
The point was to suffer, write such a big message)))))

[in AlikLorea]

Probably so that they would dissuade me!))

[Tamerlane]

Probably so that they would dissuade me!))

There is no need to dissuade you. Your life and your experience. Then you will analyze everything yourself. And you will draw conclusions.

[Scromnaga]

IMHO TS thinks more about money than his ex-girlfriend, and the fact that he didn’t pick up the phone is generally the behavior of an infantile person. I would advise next time to discuss with your future wife what he wants and what he doesn’t want, and not invent everything for yourself and be offended.

[in AlikLorea]

Looks like I wrote it in the wrong place?

[niqk]

AlikLorean, the best option for you is to send her.. . take a walk in the forest! Otherwise, she
will perch on your head and dangle her legs over your ears. And you will spend the rest of your life satisfying its insatiable needs, which by definition cannot be satisfied... Look for another option! Good luck!!!

[Scromnaga]

Look for another option

Another option, for the vehicle and you, is masturbation. Your hand is the most reliable companion for people who are afraid of being deceived. Your hand will not deceive you.

[Let’s]

From life experience I can say one thing. You will suffer in any case. If you don’t renew the relationship, you will suffer because of it. If you resume, you will wind up telling yourself that she only needs money. Therefore, martyrdom is inevitable. In general, at 32 years old it’s time to make your own decisions and take responsibility for them. Because you sent her and are trying to justify your own action at the expense of the opinions of others.

[niqk]

Look for another option

Another option, for the vehicle and you, is masturbation. Your hand is the most reliable companion for people who are afraid of being deceived. Your hand will not deceive you.

You are deceiving. Besides my hand, I have a faithful wife who does not deceive me...
What about your husband? Or is it only in the future?

[Scromnaga]

I have a faithful wife

I don’t believe you. If you have a wife, what have you been doing here for three years and judging by your messages, sitting here until bedtime? Every day and even on weekends.

[XiaH]

I would understand if a man takes such a girl as his kept wife at the age of forty, but at 32, why even consider such an option? I understand if a man runs several businesses and just wants a beautiful pussy to dump a couple of times a week, without everyday life, relationships and any kind of mind blowing. But if you are an ordinary man with an average income, then it is absolutely inappropriate to stick to such illiquid assets. Moreover, she may have two or three such daddies, probably during the discussion she also said something about “personal space” in order to leave herself time to install a wet-nurse so that there would be no downtime while the client thinks for a long time and slows down with discounting the payment for the dress

[Shalun70]

A man, of course, should... but only to his woman... and not to a woman who once gave him a blowjob or gave him pussy... Too quickly she wanted to put a bridle on you with a collar... It’s your business... it’s up to you to decide. .. but I wouldn’t continue with her... too shabby....

[Scromnaga]

not the woman who once gave him a blowjob or gave him pussy

She is 22, and he is 32. The difference is 10 years. Do you really think he is so good-looking that she really wanted his body?
On the first date, TS started talking about marriage and she believed her. He told me about "business" and she believed it too. She herself survives in this world. Without outside help and of course dreams of a family.
A family is children and a man supports not only his wife, but also children. At least for the duration of maternity leave. Oh, this is not 51 roses for Valentine’s Day, this is a considerable financial cost. And, of course, he will want to see a beautiful, well-groomed wife next to him, and this is also a cost.
If you are not able to earn money or you feel sorry for money, then you should not talk about a wedding. Use the services of a prostitute, and if you feel sorry for them, then masturbate. It’s free.

[Rossi]

Beautifully written)) 3 years on the forum)) what a wife, he’s an ordinary wanker)

[Leon king]

This Nick is a creature and he thinks smarter than everyone else. Don’t make people laugh when you disappear.

[Hammer]

Scromnaja,
Marinka, this is yours new nickname? Welcome back!
You see, applied psychology can be useful. Also intuition. As for niqk, you’re right.

[Rossi]

Old, experienced asshole)) Marina, where is the old account?)

[Shalun70]

She is 22, and he is 32. The difference is 10 years. Do you really think he is so good-looking that she really wanted his body?
TS started talking about marriage on the first date and she believed him. He told me about "business" and she believed it too. She herself survives in this world. Without outside help and of course dreams of a family.
A family is children and a man supports not only his wife, but also children. At least for the duration of maternity leave. Oh, this is not 51 roses for Valentine’s Day, this is a considerable financial cost. And, of course, he will want to see a beautiful, well-groomed wife next to him, and this is also a cost.
If you are not able to earn money or you feel sorry for money, then you should not talk about a wedding. Use the services of a prostitute, and if you feel sorry for them, then masturbate. It’s free.

If a man is 10 years older... I don’t see a problem in this... especially for 30-50 year olds... When and I want and can.... problems begin after 50... What kind of family are you talking about here after the first break? I said a man should... but not everyone who opens his shaggy safe in front of him... Beauty requires expenses... but is it only for him? But doesn’t she want to be young and beautiful for herself? But isn’t a man who takes care of himself so that a young woman enjoys going to bed with him worth money? Is the car and its maintenance not worth it? You don’t want to walk on foot... but God puts cafes and movies and ice cream in your pocket?
When the relationship is long and strong... that’s one thing... getting laid occasionally is something else...
And it’s not a matter of ability or greed, but of respect and passion... I’ll allow for I don’t pay for short, meaningless relationships... And here’s the reason... I don’t want to humiliate a woman by paying her money for sex... and I don’t want to be embarrassed by the fact that I pay for sex.... after all, we’re both not damaged ... She’s probably not handicapped and can earn money herself and I’m not too bad to pay for sex... Others, champagne, cake, flowers, restaurant, cafe, cinema, ice cream... for one-time sex it’s not a problem... to please the lady. .. thereby compensating for the costs of makeup and hairstyle... But everything else... this is when she becomes the wife and mother of my children... sorry, I don’t intend to become a deer...
And nashot jerk off... men have no problems... they’ll jerk off... but you, with no desire to find a decent job so that you have enough to cover your expenses... you won’t be able to buy a vibrator... It will be much more difficult for you... Sorry for the directness...

[in this language]

There is one problem here - the problem of trust. The girl herself provoked the situation:
- she asked for money (for money, not out of love?)
- she gave it quickly (what if this happens to everyone)
- she told about need (need money, what else)
- fucks great (experienced, it’s clear how she earned money)

Keeping your girl is one thing, keeping a reindeer herder is something else.
The guy doesn’t seem to want to trust: he ran away at the first doubt.

[Scromnaga]

Sorry for being direct..

I support myself and two children, and my husband runs away from alimony. And we have half the country like that. Because men have become childish. Adults have no responsibility.
Why did TS start talking about marriage on the first date? And what kind of hysteria is this because she asked? She asked, but he didn’t give anything. What is the problem? Let him keep asking. Those who have children know that they also ask, but not everything is bought for them. Troubled neighbors ask for money, work colleagues, relatives. Many people ask for something, and we have a choice to give or not to give, but TS apparently boasted that he has a business and he himself was not comfortable. That there seems to be a business, but no money.
What kind of kept woman is she, who supports her? She supports herself.
Is sex nature? Is it natural? So why doesn’t TS look at women older than himself?
Because he wants not just sex, but sex with a young woman. Oh, why does she need it? There are a lot of peers around and sex varies between men at different ages. No, not because of experience, but because a man takes longer to recover with age. Of course, in a family this is not a problem, everything can be solved, but if you have sex for the sake of sex, under the same conditions, the choice will be in favor of the younger one.
She will earn everything herself, but it won’t be right away, and that’s when she will earn and go out a level of complete financial independence, she won’t ask anyone, but then she won’t even look at the vehicle.
Now she is dependent on circumstances. He is looking for the easiest way out of the situation and plus he also wants a family. She is more naive than calculating.

[Sibiryak89]

I have a faithful wife

I don’t believe you. If you have a wife, what have you been doing here for three years and judging by your messages, sitting here until bedtime? Every day and even on weekends.

I also have a wife, my third, and I sit here quite often, I like depraved thoughts out loud, communication, how with men as well as with ladies. The key word is communication and multiple opinions, not just my wife...

[The passage]

Scromnaja,
nMarinka, is this your new nickname? Welcome back!
You see, applied psychology can be useful. Also intuition. As for niqk, you are right.

You yourself have repeatedly advised me to be more modest. It is always clearer from the outside if the view is not biased. So I followed your advice. I’ll be modest. I just don’t know for how long. Sometimes I’m just itching to write something hotter, more depraved, more vulgar)))
The fact that you haven’t forgotten me is actually very nice. Sometimes it seems to me that you are not indifferent to me. Just don’t be embarrassed please. This feeling is purely at the level of sensations. My own feelings and nothing more.

Sent after 14 minutes 40 seconds:

An old, experienced asshole)) Marina, where is the old account?)

Did you remember me too?) I would continue to raise you, but Apparently this is beyond my strength. I give up.

[Vladtsst]

not the woman who once gave him a blowjob or gave him pussy

She is 22, and he is 32. The difference is 10 years. Do you really think he is so good-looking that she really wanted his body?
On the first date, TS started talking about marriage and she believed her. He told me about "business" and she believed it too. She herself survives in this world. Without outside help and of course dreams of a family.
A family is children and a man supports not only his wife, but also children. At least for the duration of maternity leave. Oh, this is not 51 roses for Valentine’s Day, this is a considerable financial cost. And, of course, he will want to see a beautiful, well-groomed wife next to him, and this is also a cost.
If you are not able to earn money or you feel sorry for money, then you should not talk about a wedding. Use the services of a prostitute, and if you feel sorry for them, then masturbate. It’s free.

not the woman who once gave him a blowjob or gave him pussy

She is 22 and he is 32. The difference is 10 years. Do you really think he is so good-looking that she really wanted his body?
On the first date, TS started talking about marriage and she believed her. He told me about "business" and she believed it too. She herself survives in this world. Without outside help and of course dreams of a family.
A family is children and a man supports not only his wife, but also children. At least for the duration of maternity leave. Oh, this is not 51 roses for Valentine’s Day, this is a considerable financial cost. And, of course, he will want to see a beautiful, well-groomed wife next to him, and this is also a cost.
If you are not able to earn money or you feel sorry for money, then you should not talk about a wedding. Use the services of a prostitute, and if you feel sorry for them, then masturbate. It’s free.

So what, the difference is 10 years? My second wife and I are 10 years apart (she is younger). And in fact, she supports me. Because I live in her country. It is almost impossible for a foreigner in this country to find hired work in a local company. Especially at my age. I help her run her business, but this is not work in my understanding.

[Hammer]

Marinka,
Don’t you think Of course there is interest. And they very correctly noted that we wear masks here.
I will send Nika Skromnaya a Valentine.

[Scromnaga]

My second wife and I have a 10-year difference (she is younger).

She loves you, and if you reciprocate her feelings, then it is wonderful. I am sincerely happy for you.
Ideally, relationships should be built on feelings, and not on attraction, infatuation, submission, dependence, self-interest, pity, hopelessness, calculation. The list goes on and on.
We write the book of our lives without drafts. Once and without the right to rewrite. But we have the right, as long as there are clean sheets in it, to start a new chapter at any time we want. And, write there what we want. Our life is our area of ​​responsibility.
TS is completely in doubt. He wants it and injects himself. He is not asking us for advice, but is looking for support for his behavior. Infantile behavior. He will receive support from his own kind. But how will this help him in life? No way. At 32, it’s time to stop acting like a child.

[Vladtsst]

My second wife and I have a 10-year difference (she is younger).

She loves you, and if you answer she reciprocates, then it’s wonderful. I am sincerely happy for you.
Ideally, relationships should be built on feelings, and not on attraction, infatuation, submission, dependence, self-interest, pity, hopelessness, calculation. The list goes on and on.
We write the book of our lives without drafts. Once and without the right to rewrite. But we have the right, as long as there are clean sheets in it, to start a new chapter at any time we want. And, write there what we want. Our life is our area of ​​responsibility.
TS is completely in doubt. He wants it and injects himself. He is not asking us for advice, but is looking for support for his behavior. Infantile behavior. He will receive support from his own kind. But how will this help him in life? No way. At 32, it’s time to stop acting like a child.

We got married in adulthood. I was 45 (by that time I was divorced from my first wife), and she was 35 - this was her first marriage.

[Hammer]

Scromnaja,
Imho write 70 messages better in your own topics. Read social media. research about women’s hobbies. Approximately this sequence:
Cooking, Shopping, Fashion, Makeup, Fitness, Handicrafts, Travel, Floriculture, Pets.
Create such a topic, write about yourself, add an erotic photo
without a face. You wanted to communicate with adequate characters. I think this format will be interesting. You can even complete modest tasks, photo reports.

[Scromnaga]

write 70 messages

I’m not in a hurry.

Cooking, Shopping, Fashion, Makeup, Fitness, Handicrafts, Travel, Floriculture, Pets.

nI am more interested in relationships between people and of course sex.

write about yourself, add erotic photos

About myself and I write so much. Much more, and it won’t look modest at all. Oh, I’m modest) Well, that’s enough photos for now. I took more photos and I don’t even need to take photos, you can even post this without clothes right now, and if you’re wearing clothes, then of course there are probably hundreds or even thousands of them, and you can post and post them, but too much is good - that’s already bad.

You can even complete modest tasks, photo reports.

I communicated in the format of photo reports. In PM, but not on this forum. It was funny, but didn’t last long. The first couple of days everything went well, but then such tasks began to appear that I simply did not want to complete them, and he stopped completing mine. Either out of spite, or because he didn’t like them either. Communication came to naught, although before that we talked for a long time, several months, without any photos at all. And, everything was just wonderful.

[Hammer]

Scromnaja, Okay. Then write what tasks the guy was given .Create a topic like this, let’s see if there are people interested. Is tying a bow on an erect penis a classic? Otherwise, according to the stories, almost everyone is super macho.

[Scromnaga]

what tasks were given to the guy

Tasks were to take a photo in a wet T-shirt, without a T-shirt in just jeans, in one jacket and hat, in a tie on naked body, with a flower in his teeth, with a guitar, in the car, in nature outside the city. These were photos of the body, not a single organ. There were no bows. He has a beautiful body and the photographs turned out beautiful.

[niqk]

I don’t believe you. If you have a wife, what have you been doing here for three years and judging by your messages, sitting here until bedtime? Every day and even on weekends.

Such a peremptory tone somehow does not fit with Skromnaya. Is not it?
What am I doing here? I have already written several times - I am having fun here. Moreover, together with his wife! We are sitting here together
looking at posts, photos and other things. And we discuss all sorts of nonsense, of which, unfortunately, there is a lot here...

[Leon king]

You’re lying, you’re an infection, you haven’t seen your wife, and she doesn’t exist))

[Rooss]

I got the impression that she was interested in the money side of the relationship. At 22, the wind is in your head along with the songs of the Instagrammama. A serious relationship with her will require a lot of patience and strength of character. She has no understanding of what family is. Do you need to spend your time and money on someone who needs the values ​​of an adult man who wants to start a family like the 5th wheel of a cart? She needs a spa, a resort and an iPhone, and for free.

[Shalun70]

I support myself and two children, and my husband runs away from alimony. And we have half the country like that. Because men have become childish. Adults have no responsibility.

If you are unlucky, then why generalize? I raised 5 adopted children... I don’t think I’m a hero... About wasted money and time too... A man if he loves... then he will take care of both the woman and her children... those who don’t care. .. with them you shouldn’t build anything more than sex for the sake of health...!!!

Why did TS start talking about marriage on the first date? And what kind of hysteria is this because she asked? She asked, but he didn’t give anything. What is the problem? Let him keep asking. Those who have children know that they also ask, but not everything is bought for them. Troubled neighbors ask for money, work colleagues, relatives. Many people ask for something, and we have a choice to give or not to give, but TS apparently boasted that he has a business and he himself was not comfortable. That there seems to be a business, but no money.

Sorry, I don’t quite understand what it is... TS.... It seems like something mercenary... Talking about wedding at such an early stage of a relationship is stupid from any side... both women and men... An intelligent and wise woman will never ask... She will make sure that the man sees her need for something... and will look... will a man want to take responsibility and care... If yes, then the behavior is one thing, if not, then another... It’s time for you to understand that people who have a business look at the world a little differently from others... give money, buy a cool toy, or to pamper you financially in any way is not a problem... The problem is that these people want to see that a person himself can do something and strives for something... so that beggars or such infantile people as the father of your children do not grow up, they had a desire to fuck, but there is no responsibility not a grama...

What kind of kept woman is she, who supports her? She supports herself.

Madam... let’s be honest... If she did... I wouldn’t have asked...

Sex is nature? Is it natural? So why doesn’t TS look at women older than himself?
Because he wants not just sex, but sex with a young woman. Oh, why does she need it? There are a lot of peers around and sex varies between men at different ages. No, not because of experience, but because a man takes longer to recover with age. Of course, in a family this is not a problem, everything can be solved, but if you have sex for the sake of sex, under the same conditions the choice will be in favor of the younger one.

You really are not Do you know why nature arranges it in such a way that women look for an older man and a man for a younger woman? Why don’t most people marry and marry their classmates? Do you seriously think that only a woman’s young body brings pleasure to a man in sex? Nonsense!!! Each age has its pros and cons for both women and men...

She will earn everything herself, but it won’t be right away, and when she earns money and reaches the level of complete financial independence, she will no longer have She won’t ask anyone, but then she won’t even look at the vehicle.
Now she is dependent on the circumstances. He is looking for the easiest way out of the situation and plus he also wants a family. She is more naive than calculating.

But I don’t have your opinion... Most of those asking... ask all the time... and as a rule does not reach heights... But if she does... then I will be very happy! Then she will have a relationship without falsehood... at least on her part... She will not be dependent and will be in bed with whoever she wants... and not with whom she can grab business...
For example, I am for relationships without dependence... not on the part of the woman and on the part of the man... Unfortunately, lately there have been quite a few gigolos... And gigolo is more disgusting than a kept woman in our concept...

Sent after 9 minutes 28 seconds:

She loves you, and if you love her back, then that’s wonderful. I am sincerely happy for you.
Ideally, relationships should be built on feelings, and not on attraction, infatuation, submission, dependence, self-interest, pity, hopelessness, calculation. The list goes on and on.

P.S.
Well... and here you are contradicting yourself... what kind of love can we talk about if a person is in need and financially dependent... maybe from the beginning you need to grow up and learn to provide for yourself in order to then build a relationship on love?

[Scromnaga]

If you are unlucky, then why generalize?

I wasn’t too lazy and googled it. The alimony debt in 2022 amounted to 150 billion rubles. In 2019, 47 thousand people were convicted of malicious evasion, in 2020 - 38 thousand. I will not look for something fresh and more detailed. But, in my opinion, it’s clear that this is not a problem I invented.

what is... TS

TS is the Topic starter or topic author, in short. Abbreviations are accepted in chats. IMHO - this is in my personal opinion. The subject is a message strictly on topic. PS is a postscript to the finished text, a postscript, PS, without switching the layout to English. Saves time.

Smart and wise women

What kind of smart and wise woman can be at 22? What are you talking about?

I raised 5 adopted children... I don’t think I’m a hero... About wasted money and time

Tell me more about the 5 children. Did you walk with them, do homework, go to the doctor, to parent-teacher meetings, do homework with them, cook, clean, do laundry?

nature is so arranged that women look for an older man and a man for a woman for younger people

Nature doesn’t work that way. This is how society is structured.

If she had... she wouldn’t have asked

What’s the point that she asked? Nobody gave her anything and she still supports herself.
I think that TS not only said that he had a business, but also possibly boasted that he had a lot of money. So she thought naively.
Well, in general, I can say about our businessmen that very few of them build their business honestly. Their money is mostly stolen. And, if not stolen, then they usually save not on themselves, but on the staff. People who really work. They are paid meager wages. Make minimal contributions to social funds. Leaving people without a future pension. Your businessmen should be in prison.

need to grow up and learn to provide for yourself so that you can then build relationships on love?

It’s possible, but it will be too late to give birth.

[Tapkin]

I met a girl on Tinder. She is 22 years old. I’m 32!) She takes manicure courses, teaches future manicurists, runs TikTok, seems to be +- successfully, she has students, at 22 she supports herself, rents an apartment, etc. The only thing is that, as she said, her parents are poor and can barely provide for themselves with money. Therefore, she already started working from the age of 13-14 and began to provide for herself from the age of 17.
We only had three dates, on the first date we already discussed where to go on vacation in two months and what a wedding should be like, but overall it was of course + - it was all in jest, but I also like such conversations!) Because now, due to my age, I want a serious relationship and a family!)
So , on the third date I asked her to meet!) On the third date we kissed.
The next day I receive a text message from her, with a photo of the jacket in the fitting room, asking which color is better, gray or white, and I really felt for her what does this do, then she writes, she forgot the money at home..., well, I ask, do you want me to send you some money? She’s like, could you??? Well, in general, it’s not about the money, the jacket was a show-off, but the fact is that although I offered to meet and a girl can ask for such things, but not on the trail. the day we started dating! In principle, that’s what I wrote to her, but we agreed to meet in the evening.
In the evening I came to her, and there we first discussed this moment and her understanding of the relationship. In general, all its understanding comes down to content! That is, she said that she would like her boyfriend-husband to fully provide for her, that is, to give her money for cosmetologists and all sorts of procedures, to buy clothes, pay for sports with a coach, etc. And naturally she wanted me to start renting an apartment in a new residential complex and we would start living together there.
For me, of course, it all sounded very wild and very mercantile.
Although I really In fact, I think that a man in general should be like this, but this applies to a family, when you have already formed some kind of relationship, when you already live together, and a family appears, naturally, a man must provide for his girlfriend completely, because you are already like one whole! But at the very beginning of a relationship, when everything is discussed to be done now, right away... Somehow very strange!))
In short, we discussed all this with her, I told her that I had to think about everything. That evening I stayed with her!) We had sex! The sex was just beyond words! Overall, probably one of the best in my life)) And it’s just about the comfort of being nearby, when thoughts fly away and you dissolve in a person!)
The next day, already at home, I sat and played a session!)) Received from her long letter in which she described how she sees our future relationship, there she described that she would like to receive money from me for the gym, for something else when we live together, food for me, clothes, cosmetics on it, etc.
P.S. during our evening conversation, I told her that I play poker, in addition to poker, I also have a family business and real estate, etc. that is, I have money, but it’s family money. Not mine. At this moment in time, I am trying to develop and increase my money and my profit thanks to poker. Therefore, I am not so rich that I could now fully provide for you, but I can cover some of your expenses!)
That’s why she wrote in a letter the next day, supposedly as an alternative, what is important to her and what would be invested in my "budget" )))
In response to this letter of hers, I wrote to her briefly and dryly that I was not yet ready for such a relationship. I wrote this with the thoughts that she is a kept woman, who is very materialistic, with whom it will not be possible to build a happy family, that as soon as I have problems with money, or she finds someone richer, she will immediately go to him, etc. From the beginning I formed exactly this image of her.
Looking ahead, I began to think about her and that she is 22 years old, that she really runs TikTok, she has clients and she makes money. Her attitude towards money is not cold calculation and commercialism, but a consequence of her upbringing, a consequence of the fact that her parents are very poor and she would like to feel and experience weakness and protection from a man, both in the form of money and in the form of banal protection.
Coming back ago, after I wrote this to her, she deleted our correspondence, but then almost immediately she started writing a lot of messages like, let’s talk everything over, I don’t want to lose you, I liked you, we can discuss everything, I didn’t want you offend, etc.
I was frozen by these messages, then she called, I didn’t answer either. And in general, she then deleted the correspondence again and we didn’t communicate with her anymore.
But two weeks have already passed, but I constantly think about her. Even though we really knew each other for 3 days. But I liked some things regarding everyday life, leisure time, people’s attitude towards work that we discussed, I liked everything, we are very similar in this. And analyzing my feelings, I realized that I was comfortable next to her, and this is very important!
And if you think about her not as a mercantile kept woman, but with the thought that she is normal, with the normal needs of love, a family of children and is capable of building strong relationships, etc., but at the same time having such a feature associated with money, then for me the moment of money is no longer so stressful!
That is, I would like to believe that she really , sweet, honest, straightforward and without any thoughts about how to deceive or extract more money, then I would really like to renew the relationship and try to build something!))

In general, something like this...)))) I would really like to hear your opinion in general regarding such girls, has anyone had experience communicating with such girls and what do you think from the outside looks like my desire to renew communication and relationship with her, it’s just because we had good sex and by giving her money, I’m just conditionally signing up for good sex and some emotions, etc. Or maybe this is the situation when you feel that you are needed, that you can "Save" "Provide" and thanks to this you will feel some kind of power over the situation and over the person. Or maybe it’s love and a desire to learn about spending time with a person with whom you have many common interests and views on life?)))
Damn..... I hope this was at least a little interesting to someone and there will be an opportunity to discuss on this topic!))

And then February 14th is coming soon and if I decide to resume communication with her, then I will need to have time to arrange the delivery of roses to her door...))) ) I think 51-one rose will be normal!)))

..I’m halfway through the story, I’ve already sent both HER and you for one thing, for slow-wittedness !)))

[Shalun70]

I wasn’t too lazy and Googled it. The alimony debt in 2022 amounted to 150 billion rubles. In 2019, 47 thousand people were convicted of malicious evasion, in 2020 - 38 thousand. I will not look for something fresh and more detailed. But, in my opinion, it is already clear that this is a problem not invented by me.

If 140 million people live in Russia, then 40,000 is a drop in the bucket.... and there’s no need to tell everyone off.... maybe if I’m not getting fat, I’ll also find statistics that are not good for women...

Tell us more about the 5 children. Did you walk with them, do homework, go to the doctor, to parent-teacher meetings, do homework with them, cook, clean, do laundry?

Naturally, I did... . after all, they lived in a place... I don’t see anything super natural in this... maybe you were just unlucky, that’s all, or you failed to inspire your chosen one...

[Scromnaga]

I’m not getting fat, I’ll also find statistics

40 thousand malicious defaulters is a drop? This is the population of a small town. These are children who have never seen a penny from their fathers. And, 150 billion in alimony debt is the annual budget of the entire region. Please don’t be lazy and find the statistics you are writing about.

Naturally I did..

Describe what exactly you did.

[Shalun70]

Describe what exactly you did.

I said everything you mentioned above... I didn’t bother to figure out whether it was mine or not... I’m just talking about they cared... what details do you need...? You don’t know what caring for and raising children is? Then the question is, do you actually have children?

40 thousand willful defaulters is a drop? This is the population of a small town. These are children who have never seen a penny from their fathers. And, 150 billion in alimony debt is the annual budget of the entire region. Please, don’t be lazy and find the statistics you’re writing about.

Depending on which way you look at it... After the war, there were more widows and single mothers... but somehow did they live...?
2. How many prostitutes are there in Russia?
According to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, more than a million. According to the "Silver Rose" (a union of prostitutes in Russia), about 3 million. I think there are approximately 1.5 - 1.7 million.
https://pikabu.ru/story/prostitutsiya_v ... is_6871209
There is a difference of one and a half million or 40,000
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What percentage of women cheat
According to statistics it became known that 41% of married women have violated their oath of fidelity. 8% of them experienced infidelity only once, and did not repeat it in the future. But most women who cheated once, after a while again found an affair on the side, often long-term.

How long does the affair last:

25% of the women surveyed admitted to infidelities that lasted up to six months;
60% had a love affair with other partners for no more than a month;
15% indicated one-time relationships.
Sociologists annually study various aspects family life, including how often women cheat in marriage depending on their country of residence.

Statistics on infidelity in Russia
Our country ranks leading in the world in terms of the number of divorces due to infidelity. The state is ahead of Belarus, Ukraine, and the Netherlands. Moreover, 90% of marriages break up within the first year after the start of family life.
What makes your husband cheat on you
With the help of sociological surveys and honest women, we were able to determine the most common reasons for cheating among wives:

New love – 20%. For women in external relationships, emotional return plays an important role. Falling in love or even falling in love with a new person can turn a lady’s head so much that she forgets about all the rules of decency. Dissatisfaction in bed – 13%. If a woman systematically does not receive pleasure in bed, she will think about finding a lover who will fill this need. Moreover, you need to focus specifically on the quality, and not the quantity, of sexual acts.
Revenge - 11%. Most often this happens after the husband cheats. Out of emotion, a woman can commit an impulsive and desperate act, which she often regrets later. Interestingly, among men, betrayal for revenge is much less common - only 1%. Long separation from a spouse - 10%. We are talking about business trips and shift work, when the wife can live alone for several months. Low self-esteem - 7%. Self-doubt can be innate or develop during marriage. With the help of infidelity, a woman proves to herself that she is still capable of pleasing someone other than her husband. Spontaneous infidelity – 6%. Usually occurs during corporate events, parties and holiday gatherings. Fun, a festive mood and alcohol reduce barriers, and agreeing to a romantic adventure becomes easier. Usually these are one-time infidelities, because of which women often feel shame and guilt.
Routine, everyday life, monotony - 6%. The desire to add at least a little variety to the drab everyday life can push you into the arms of a persistent suitor. After all, a romantic story like in a movie will help you feel alive again and take you out of the cycle of household chores. Usually wives who do not have interesting hobbies and outlets in life go for this.
https://stepslove.ru/izmen/kak-chasto-i ... statistikahttps://stepslove.ru/izmen/kak-chasto-izmenyayut-zhenshhiny-statistika

[Scromnaga]

do you have children?

I have children, but as I understand, you don’t and never have. Why then are you telling fairy tales here?

treason

We are talking about the fact that many men do not pay alimony, but what are you talking about? If you have nothing to write, then don’t write at all.

[Shalun70]

Scromnaja,
Statistics of female alcoholism
Official statistics, which tend to underestimate the real numbers, indicate a steady increase in the number of Russian women addicted to alcohol. Over the past few years, their number has increased from 11.3% to 15.8%.

One of the most depressing aspects of the disease is its ability to “get younger” year after year. Clinical data from Russian scientists indicate that 82% of women began to systematically drink alcohol before the age of 30. At the same time, half of them manage to become addicted to alcohol between the ages of 16 and 21. What pushes girls on this path?
https://medportal.ru/enc/narcology/reading/74/

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Scromnaja,
LEAVE THE MATERNITY HOSPITAL WITHOUT A CHILD: WHY DO WOMEN REFUSE NEWBORNS?
https://otkazniki.ru/events/histories/u .. . zhdennykh/
The cuckoo does not build nests

https://rosstat.gov.ru/storage/mediaban ... 1%8C_.html