Interesting info

[The passage]

I just came across it on a forum and read it with interest and copied and pasted it here. Maybe someone will be interested too. Or maybe someone will add or correct it.
First of all, I would like to warn you that some of the terms used in the text are quite new and unsettled. Some people don’t see any difference between them at all, while others think that all this doesn’t matter and is unnecessary speculation.
In the English-speaking segment of the Internet, the term SexWife (wife for sex) practically does not exist, there is only HotWife (hot wife, in the sense of "hot little thing") or SlutWife (whore wife). And Cuckold is just a husband whose wife is secretly cheating on him. There is a noteworthy opinion that the term SexWife was generally coined in Russia simply for greater clarity. It is quite possible, we will neither argue nor agree.
So, let’s get started. Swing, MFM, SexWife, Cuckold and HotWife: what do all these terms mean? What are the similarities and what are the differences?
And if there seem to be no special problems with Swing, then with the others there are discrepancies. Moreover, these same discrepancies begin as soon as a couple of swingers think about a possible meeting not with the same couple, but with a single man. That is, we are talking about MZHM. True-swingers ("true swingers" are a kind of knights of swing with a crown on their crown) this option is no longer recognized, they say, what kind of swing is this? Again, we will neither argue nor agree, but let us remind you that at least one ingredient is definitely there: a married couple wants to get to know each other closely. But with whom exactly, with the same couple, a man or a girl, is a completely different question, relating only to this couple. Is this swing? For a couple who has decided on MFM - yes. The question is closed.
By the way, it’s funny, but for some reason a couple’s acquaintance with a girl does not cause such sharp rejection of true swingers! I wonder why?)))
But let’s return to MZHM. This is a swinger term, it is quite understandable and transparent: Man, Woman, Man met in order to have group sex, the center of attraction in which is, undoubtedly, the Woman. Sometimes it is slightly modified and it turns into MMF. Most often it is implied that in this version the men in this trio are bisexual, so sexual contacts are possible between all participants. What if FMM or even F+MM? And this is already some hint at the Gang-Bang version of the Light)))
But in any case, for swingers this format is far from the main one, many couples, we repeat, do not recognize it at all!
Here we are to Sex-Wife or Hot-Wife.
For these thematic couples, MFM is the main one, albeit with slightly different rules, in its own way.
Sex-Wife or Wife-for-Sex, sounds exciting, doesn’t it?
Family game of "cheating", where the wife herself freely meets, flirts and has sex with other men, sometimes several at once; the husband is faithful to the "cheater" from whom he expects a story, photo or video, in general, "evidence of betrayal" (which excites both him and her wildly). Most often, the husband is prohibited from “cheating” with other women according to the terms of the game (and he himself doesn’t want to!), he is “Rogatik”. Well, the wife, accordingly, "Slut", "Bitch", "*damn" - depending on the agreements, desires, level of culture. Accordingly, the man with whom his wife "cheats" is a "lover", "hahal", "*bar". In some couples, the husband may be present at the meeting with the “lover,” observe the action, take photos/videos of it, and perhaps even participate. True, participation can be different: participation in sex, participation in preparing the meeting place, participation as an observer, or participation as a “servant,” “slave.” A humiliated and powerless husband at a meeting between his wife and her lover is precisely that same Cuckold. In any case, this is precisely the idea of ​​this term that has become entrenched in the Russian-language Internet, and this is unlikely to change. A cuckold is a masochist husband of a gorgeous *poisonous beauty SexWife, who enjoys dominating him with his wife and nothing else.
Hot-Wife or Hot-Wife (ahhh.. you can get burned!)
This is also a family game , but it is much closer to Swing: no one cheats on anyone, the wife and husband most often meet with men or women together, no sexual prohibitions are imposed on the husband. He, of course, can only observe and/or take photos and videos, but at will and by agreement. They choose a man, a “family friend,” again only together and by mutual agreement. No "Rogatiki", "Sluts" and "Fucks" for you, and at meetings the husband has greater "rights" than "lover". Big, in the sense that it is his reliable presence that allows the wife to completely relax, not think about anything, give control over what is happening to her husband and get maximum pleasure from the meeting. And men should be proud of themselves, looking at a tired cat purring with pleasure! And her gratitude will have no limits, get ready, boys!
This is already something close to BDSM - humiliation, moral and/or physical "bullying", excommunication from sex, "violent" bisex with "lover" in a passive role... It sounds creepy, but if everyone playing likes it, then that’s their business and only theirs. In the end, swing, from the point of view of generally accepted morality, is also a terrible perversion)))
So this is the same "swinger MFM"?
No, not really. Hot-wife implies more freedom, eroticism and emotions in the relationship between wife and "friend" outside of bed. In some couples, it is allowed to go to a restaurant and meet the wife with a “friend” without the husband (who is sure that nothing bad will happen to his beloved), it all depends on the agreements in the couple and the resulting “trio”)))
But here a lot depends on the “family friend.” He either likes this topic and accepts the jointly agreed upon rules of the game or... No open competition, jealousy during a meeting or “separate negotiations” with the wife behind the husband’s back are, of course, allowed later. If anything, an immediate break and a "wolf ticket" in the entire swing or HotWife community is guaranteed.
To summarize... Whoever is closer, chooses it. True swingers verbally do not like "mzhmschiki" (however, sometimes it turns out that they don’t even mind meeting a trio), strictly heterosexual men snort contemptuously at big guys (however, sometimes it turns out that they themselves are not against experimenting with bisex), desperate sexwifes seeing a charming themed girl on the site... In general, it’s clear)))
And some mix "genres", meeting this way and that and even completely awry - so you should never get into bed with your lover a married couple... unless she invites you there, of course.

[Beautiful]

You can really get confused in the terms and rules. I think it’s easy to discuss everything right away when meeting a couple. Who, with whom, how can have sex. Who is the leader in this trio? What conditions do the couple have, etc. Of course, everyone is different and everyone has their own desires and requests. Everything happens in stages. Preliminary acquaintance on the Internet. Visual acquaintance meeting on neutral territory. Negotiation. If all stages have been completed and an agreement has been concluded. What happens next is clear from the situation. That’s pretty much how I imagine it. But how, what and who is called is not so important. The main thing is the result in the end. If everything suits everyone, then everything is fine. Everyone got what they wanted or the experience of a sexual encounter.

[The passage]

You can really get confused in the terms and rules. I think it’s easy to discuss everything right away when meeting a couple. Who, with whom, how can have sex. Who is the leader in this trio? What conditions do the couple have, etc. Of course, everyone is different and everyone has their own desires and requests. Everything happens in stages. Preliminary acquaintance on the Internet. Visual acquaintance meeting on neutral territory. Negotiation. If all stages have been completed and an agreement has been concluded. What happens next is clear from the situation. That’s pretty much how I imagine it. But how, what and who is called is not so important. The main thing is the result in the end. If everything suits everyone, then everything is fine. Everyone got what they wanted or the experience of a sexual encounter.

This information is interesting because people can talk about the same thing, but not understand each other. Or, on the contrary, talk about different things as if they were one, and then naturally there will be a surprise due to misunderstanding. And, in general, of course, this is too many letters for some. Their brains are simply not capable of digesting so much, even if they can manage to read it all. For many, reading this is already incredibly difficult.

[Wolffr]

Oh, how confusing everything is, this is definitely not my thing!!!

[Chance]

It’s interesting that the term sex wife has taken root in our country
But I’m still surprised that we’re talking about both dating and observation. In my understanding it was more about sex than a lifestyle

[The passage]

It’s interesting that the term sex wife has taken root here
But I’m still surprised that we’re talking about both dating and observation. In my understanding, it was more about sex than a lifestyle

Sex influences the behavioral model, to a greater or lesser extent, but in any case it influences.

[Chance]

Sex influences the behavioral model, to a greater or lesser extent, but in any case it influences

In general, sex is often an opportunity to “get even” for everything the rest if you want. A man dominates in a relationship; a woman dominates in sex, for example. So in the case of sex wife, for me personally, the second man during sex is to encourage the wife for decent behavior the rest of the time, that is, it’s not about humiliation and domination at all.

[The passage]

Sex influences the behavioral model, to a greater or lesser extent, but in any case it influences

In general, sex is often an opportunity “ "get even" for everything else, if you want. A man dominates in a relationship; a woman dominates in sex, for example. So in the case of sex wife, for me personally, the second man during sex is to encourage the wife for decent behavior the rest of the time, that is, it’s not about humiliation and domination at all.

I agree with you in many respects.
Humiliation is a subjective concept. If a person does not feel humiliated, then there is no humiliation.

[Chance]

I agree with you a lot.
Humiliation is a subjective concept. If a person does not feel humiliated, then there is no humiliation at all.

For me, this is even some kind of recognition) that your wife is so amazing that other guys want her. I think that the feeling is definitely pleasant)

[Lost]

If a person does not want to be humiliated, no one will humiliate him. A person presents himself in such a way that he provokes others to do exactly that with him. From personal experience I can say, for example, as a child I wore glasses, they often tried to offend me until they punched me in the nose a couple of times, after which they calmed down. This is a tiny example. In adult life, there were several attempts from others, but with a proper response, without violence, the alpha person retreats on his own. It’s a matter of human psychology: you can look harmless, but at the same time strong. The same is true in sexual life. You can’t fit everyone into one size fits all, there are a couple of acquaintances in the family and through their sex life, they practice cuckolding. But at the same time, they are successful people with a strong psyche, one of them is an athlete, he practices martial arts and has many awards, but in relation to his wife they practice sexwife. He rarely takes part. And everything is great when it comes to sex with each other. Bzik, so to speak

[in us]

I’d rather do it the old fashioned way - with a woman.

[The passage]

I have often seen on this forum when men suspect that a woman’s nickname is a man, based on the fact that the girl cannot write about some things about sex. I know that women are such cockroaches that even in the most perverted fantasies they cannot imagine it, but they are sure of the opposite. On the one hand, I’m pleased that men think so well of women, but on the other hand, it’s unpleasant when you write something, and then they come back to you saying that this can’t happen, simply because it can’t. Now I came across a video on YouTube. Men - look:

[Lost]

on the other hand, it’s unpleasant when you write something, and then you get an answer that this can’t happen, simply because it can’t.

I agree, many do this because the dreamers themselves or their imagination does not reach this point or often deceives them. Therefore, when I write something, I don’t hope that everyone will understand or believe 100%; I must leave it to their judgment. If 1 out of 10 understands and believes, that’s already great)))

[aryamari]

A very long but interesting instruction

Although, as for me, I prefer secret betrayal

[Lost]

If you secretly cheat, then why married life, it’s not interesting))

[aryamari]

If you secretly cheat, then why would married life be so interesting))

life is life, and sex is sex

[Lost]

You can argue on this topic for a long time, but the highest feelings are when there is complete mutual understanding between spouses!

[Grass]

It’s interesting that the term sex wife has taken root here
But I’m still surprised that we’re talking about both dating and observation. In my understanding, it was more about sex than a lifestyle

Because it is a Russian term. An analogue of the foreign Hot-Wife.
It was invented by the admin of a Russian thematic forum. About 20 years ago. And he named his website that way.
Initially there was no difference between them.
And dreamers began to think of something.

[Shalun70]

life is life and sex is sex

Can I ask if life is possible without sex?
I believe that life without sex, this is not life, but existence.
And I’ll add... Everything secret eventually becomes obvious. But then the reaction of the other half can be extremely negative... not because they had sex on the side, but because they did it secretly. It’s up to you... but I wouldn’t ask for secret tricks behind my back...

[aryamari]

life is life, and sex is sex

is life possible without sex?

definitely yes

[Shalun70]

definitely yes

Okay, let’s say you’re right. Tell me, how long can you go without sex without it disturbing your mood, at work and at home?

[aryamari]

definitely yes

Okay, let’s say you’re right. Tell me, how long can you go without sex so that it doesn’t interfere with your mood, at work and at home?

we won’t allow anyone anywhere, you’re going to the wrong place steppe
married life and sex with lovers are incomparable things, that’s what I’m talking about.

[Shalun70]

we won’t allow anyone anywhere, you are going into the wrong steppe
married life and sex with lovers are incomparable things, that’s what I’m talking about.

No honey, I’m going in the right direction, you just don’t want to go deeper into this problem. If I were your husband, in a maximum of a year I would have found out that you were cheating on me, and since you did it behind my back, we would have separated.
I believe that a married couple should be open to each other, then each spouse will have a strong marriage and wonderful sex.

[aryamari]

we won’t allow anyone anywhere, you are going into the wrong steppe
married life and sex with lovers are incomparable things, that’s what I’m talking about.

No honey, I’m going in the right direction, you just don’t want to go deeper into this problem. If I were your husband, in a maximum of a year I would have found out that you were cheating on me, and since you did it behind my back, we would have separated.
I believe that a married couple should be open to each other, then each of the spouses will have a strong marriage and wonderful sex.

it’s good that you are not my husband, I would have run away from such a bore even before marriage

[Shalun70]

it’s good that you are not my husband, I would have run away from such a bore even before marriage

You probably don’t need a husband, but a DEER... Well, it’s a matter of your taste...

[Bully Carrie]

Although, as for me, secret betrayal is more to my liking

I agree.

[Shalun70]

AryaMari: ↑Yesterday, 12:12
Although, as for me, I prefer secret betrayal
Hooligan Carrie
I agree.

Girls, this is of course my subjective opinion, but it seems to me that you don’t love and respect your men, otherwise you would be frank.
You want good sex and pockets full of money, and for this you try to sit on two chairs.
Why do it quietly behind your back, a frank conversation with your husband could create the opportunity not to hide and not lie and get the same from life!

[Bully Carrie]

Shalun70,
When you write - it feels like you are giving a lecture))
At the same time, you are thinking for others, adjusting everything to your own stereotypes.
Where was it about money? Where - about the fact that it is women, not men, who cheat?

[aryamari]

Shalun70 ,
When you write, it seems like you are giving a lecture))
At the same time, you think for others, adjusting everything to your own stereotypes.
nWhere was it about money? Where is it about the fact that it is women, and not men, who cheat?

that’s exactly how it is in the last instance.

no wonder they banned it apparently

[Shalun70]

Where is it about the fact that it is women who cheat, not men?

Dear, why would men cheat on women?

At the same time, you think for others, adjusting everything to your own stereotypes.

I don’t push anyone anywhere... I I just expressed my point of view.... It’s clear... after 15 years of marriage... feelings can cool... I’m not a prude... I’m not against diversity... I don’t mind that spouses take a break from each other... Or they relax with friends or girlfriends... I am against deception....

Where was it about money?

Can you tell me the reasons for female infidelity? So... I’ll explain briefly but clearly.... If the husband earns poorly... but fucks well, then the lover pays for the wife’s needs... or vice versa. lover fucks well, but earns poorly... A woman in such situations, as a rule, tries to keep everything secret so as not to lose anything...

[Keep the change for yourself]

Marinka,
I read it diagonally and dotted line.
As for me, this is just some kind of shit.
Cuckold-huelds, sexwife-huyafs, what kind of cringe

[The passage]

Marinka,
nI read it diagonally and with a dotted line.
As for me, this is just some kind of shit.
Cuckold-huelds, sexwife-huyafs, what kind of cringe

People just get bored and they diversify their sex life. We could eat like cat food, the same thing every day, but we diversify our diet in every possible way. On holidays we organize belly festivals. For the sake of pleasure, we eat something that brings nothing but harm to the body. Moreover, we know this, we are aware of it, but we cannot deny ourselves the pleasure. It’s the same with sex.
Well, sex itself is not fundamentally different from other sources of pleasure. And the rule also works with him - there are no comrades according to taste and color.

[Beluga]

If the husband earns poorly... but fucks well, then the lover pays for his wife’s needs... or vice versa. lover fucks well, but earns poorly

How narrow and straightforward

Marinki writes very clearly "It just makes people feel boring and they diversify their sex life. We could eat like cat food, the same thing every day, but we diversify our diet in every possible way...."

[Keep the change for yourself]

Beluga whale, Marinka, the other half is not cat food - this is the best restaurant on the planet for one visitor which has and breakfast, lunch and dinner! Where it’s always delicious, cozy and soulful.

And let the whippers into this restaurant and look out the window or go into the burrower yourself, which is like a passage yard and eat rotten food there from a common cup - that’s what it is cuckoldism and sex-wifism.

This metaphor is more appropriate to my perception.

[Beluga]

Belukha, Marinka, the other half is not cat food - this is the best restaurant on the planet for one visitor which has breakfast, lunch and dinner! Where it’s always delicious, cozy and soulful.

And let the whippers into this restaurant and look out the window or go into the burrower yourself, which is like a passage yard and eat rotten food there from a common cup - that’s what it is cuckoldism and sex-wifism.

Such a metaphor is more appropriate to my perception.

Well, why immediately use whips and belch, although sometimes you want some harmful grub, some kind of oiled whitewash or khychin made from cats. but you can compare it with food prepared at home and going to an expensive restaurant and delicacies, there are many different metaphors and different attitudes towards them and the situation.

[Keep the change for yourself]

Belukha, Marinka, the other half is not cat food - this is the best restaurant planets per visitor which includes breakfast, lunch and dinner! Where it’s always delicious, cozy and soulful.

And let the whippers into this restaurant and look out the window or go into the burrower yourself, which is like a passage yard and eat rotten food there from a common cup - that’s what it is cuckoldism and sex-wifism.

Such a metaphor is more appropriate to my perception.

Well, why immediately use whips and belch, although sometimes you want some harmful grub, some kind of oiled whitewash or khychin made from cats. but you can compare it with food prepared at home and going to an expensive restaurant and delicacies, there are many different metaphors and different attitudes towards them and situations.

Whoever wants it compares it with it. I can’t compare my love with cat food; for me, this is the best restaurant on the planet for me alone.

[Beluga]

I can’t compare my love with cat food, for me this is the best restaurant on the planet for me alone.

let it be a restaurant, but I already wrote and Marinka can too get bored or just today or now you don’t want a restaurant maybe just once, but go to a stall and buy shawarma and a restaurant is undoubtedly better, tastier, healthier and more enjoyable

[The passage]

Belukha, Marinka, the other half is not cat food - this is the best restaurant on the planet for one visitor which has breakfast, lunch and dinner! Where it’s always delicious, cozy and soulful.

And let the whippers into this restaurant and look out the window or go into the burrower yourself, which is like a passage yard and eat rotten food there from a common cup - that’s what it is cuckoldism and sex-wifism.

This metaphor is more appropriate to my perception.

If you weren’t sitting, on a sex forum, then I could only be happy for you, for my wife, for you.
Oh, so, you’re on a forum about sex. Apparently you can’t get enough in the best restaurant in the world

[Keep the change for yourself]

I can’t compare my love with cat food, for me this is the best restaurant on the planet for me alone.

let it be a restaurant, but I already wrote and Marinka may also get boring, or it’s just that today or now you don’t want a restaurant maybe just once, but go to a stall and buy shawarma and a restaurant is undoubtedly better, tastier, healthier and more enjoyable

While you are standing in line for shawarma, the restaurant may be closed for repairs for a long time, or there will be a change of ownership and security will be stationed at the door.

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Oh, so, you’re on a forum about sex . Apparently you don’t get enough to eat in the best restaurant in the world

An expected thought. Only I don’t come here to eat, but to get excited about the names of the dishes, which I’ve written about many times.

[The passage]

Expected thought. Only I don’t come here to eat, but to have fun with the names of the dishes, which I’ve written about many times.

Well, you can have fun on the Internet on humorous resources. There is content about sex here. Apparently the restaurant has become boring to some extent. You didn’t come here just once, but you’ve already been coming here for 4 months.

[Keep the change for yourself]

An expected thought. Only I don’t come here to eat, but to have fun with the names of the dishes, which I’ve written about many times.

Well, you can have fun on the Internet on humorous resources. There is content about sex here. Apparently the restaurant has become boring to some extent. You didn’t come here just once, but you’ve already been coming here for 4 months.

Only a person starts saying morally correct things, the argument is always - this is a sex forum, here everything is wrong and there is no place for the right.

Actually, forums are about sharing experiences and expressing points of view.

And if you think of taking me for a show-off , then it couldn’t be simpler) I’ll easily fall for it and won’t come here again, this is, as they say, an easy-easy quest))

[Beluga]

While you are standing in line for shawarma, the restaurant may be closed for repairs for a long time, or even the owner will change and security will be stationed at the door.

n Of course, life is not predictable, anything can happen, even if you don’t leave the restaurant and live in it around the clock, a fire, a raider takeover, and the restaurant itself decides that the owner has become somehow bad and needs to be replaced :unknown : why not

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And if you’re thinking of taking me for a show-off, then it couldn’t be simpler) I’ll easily fall for it and won’t come here again, it’s, as they say, an easy-easy quest))

did you mean by this Nick?

[Keep the change for yourself]

While you are standing in line for shawarma, the restaurant may be closed for repairs for a long time, or there will be a change of ownership and security will be stationed at the door.

Of course, life is not predictable, anything can happen, even if you don’t leave the restaurant and live in it around the clock, a fire, a raider takeover, and the restaurant itself decides that the owner has become somehow bad and needs to be replaced why not

Yes, no problem.
All these dictionary manipulations are meaningless if you have an official contract with a restaurant, or your sole presence is accepted by this establishment, as well as your presence only in it.

Free gastronomic experiments only for free people.

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in view of?

No, unlike, as it turns out, most - I can just stop writing on this resource - it’s not so difficult as it seems to you.

[Beluga]

Free gastronomic experiments only for free people.

The boundaries of freedom are limited by the Criminal Code and our own understanding of these very freedoms

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No, unlike, as it turns out, the majority - I can just stop writing to this resource - it’s not so difficult how do you like seems.

it is difficult for an ordinary user to verify this, and these are nothing more than words

[The passage]

An expected thought. Only I don’t come here to eat, but to have fun with the names of the dishes, which I’ve written about many times.

Well, you can have fun on the Internet on humorous resources. There is content about sex here. Apparently the restaurant has become boring to some extent. You didn’t come here just once, but you’ve already been coming here for 4 months.

Only a person starts saying morally correct things, the argument is always - this is a sex forum, here everything is wrong and there is no place for the right.

Actually, forums are about sharing experiences and expressing points of view.

And if you think of taking me for a show-off , then it couldn’t be simpler) I’ll easily fall for it and won’t come here again, this is, as they say, an easy-easy quest))

I’m superior to you I wrote that everyone has different tastes, but you only took cat food from my message. Tastes are different, people like different things. And it’s not always possible to understand in sex what is good and what is bad. Everything is so individual. Well, whether things are right or not is generally from the evil one.

[Keep the change for yourself]

Free gastronomic experiments only for free people.

The boundaries of freedom are limited by the Criminal Code and our own understanding of these very freedoms

This has already begun the classic verbiage. I think you understand perfectly well what I mean, or should I chew it?

[Beluga]

Free gastronomic experiments only for free people.

The boundaries of freedom are limited by the Criminal Code and our own understanding of these very freedoms

This has already begun the classic verbiage. I think you understand perfectly well what I mean, or should you chew it?

Not verbiage at all, just a statement of facts, some people allow themselves, some don’t

[Shalun70]

How narrow and straightforward

Marinki writes very clearly: “People just get bored and diversify their sex life. We could eat like cat food, the same thing every day, but we diversify our diet in every possible way....

Well, what can I say... straightforwardly and without going into details... But I’m not writing a dissertation here... Yes, the topic is huge... and you probably failed to figure it out... but I hope the girl’s deflection will be appreciated...

[gnusmas]

I give a plus for sex enlightenment) Write more

[Beluga]

How narrow and straightforward

Marinki writes very clearly: “People just get bored and they diversify their sex life. We could eat like cat food, the same thing every day, but we diversify our diet in every possible way....

Well, what can I say... straightforwardly and without going into details... But I’m not writing a dissertation here... Yes, the topic is huge... and you probably failed to figure it out... but I hope the girl’s deflection will be appreciated...

yes, yes, I’ve already read here more than once that the topics are voluminous and non-specialists cannot understand, and also that all this has already been discussed 1000 times, but to be honest, I perceive the grumbling of such characters like senile grumbling and I treat age with condescension.