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I’m almost 33. I haven’t had any relationships other than teenage games with my sister.
I don’t even want to anymore.
Well, in the form in which relationships are usually presented.
For example, the cohabitation of two social phobes, each in their own room, and according to their joint mood and desire, fucking each other.
This is still normal.
Are there such people here?
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Aion2012Dead: 04 May 2023, 15:43 I’m almost 33. There were no relationships except teenage games with my sister.
I don’t even want to anymore.
Well, in the form in which relationships are usually presented.
For example, the cohabitation of two social phobes, each in their own room, and according to their joint mood and desire, fucking each other.
This is still normal.
Are there people like that here?
It’s hard to call yourself a social phobe, but there are difficulties communicating with people. I feel lonely. Are you a social phobe?
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To some extent, many couples go through this without being socially anxious. This is exactly the life you described. As a rule, this is the result of many factors: people did not get to know each other well enough before marriage and became disappointed, mutual grievances accumulated, partners became boring to each other, one (two) had their priorities in life shifted, while the other did not. Children can also be a reason: a woman switches to what is most precious and slowly neglects her husband, perceiving him simply as a source of well-being. Yes, there are many situations.
The topic you touched on is not at all so simple. And it’s not about social phobias. You can feel lonely being married and even sitting next to your spouse, even sitting with the whole family. Loneliness is not the absence of people around, but the lack of emotional involvement, both yours and those around you.
Aion2012Dead: 04 May 2023, 15:43 cohabitation of two social phobes, each in their own room, and according to their joint mood and desire, fucking each other
I don’t think it will be like this, people who don’t care about each other can sleep with each other a couple of times, but they won’t do it on an ongoing basis. They don’t care.

In general, perhaps you are on the way to the strongest and happiest relationship: a union of full-fledged self-sufficient people who are together not because one needs something from the other, but simply because together you are better.

P.S. I think the feeling of loneliness comes to all of us from time to time. And in some ways this is even good. This is an incentive to change something.
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◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊: 04 May 2023, 16:08 It’s hard to call yourself a social phobe, but there are difficulties in communicating with people. I feel lonely. Are you a social phobe?
Probably not. I’m no longer afraid or afraid of people, I just quickly get tired of communication. And I feel great being alone with myself.
Why did I create this topic? It’s very rare, but sometimes it’s kind of lonely.
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Everyone has their own room and the opportunity to periodically sleep separately, depending on their mood, together. I think this would save many couples. There are simply women for whom this is fundamental and you cannot explain to them that this is in the order of things and that it is simply stupidly more comfortable to sleep alone, everything is immediately taken personally. Just like some women strive to take a shower together every time *x)
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XyaH, A stereotype driven into the head from childhood that a husband and the wife are obliged to sleep together and generally spend all the time together.
For some this does not fit with their personal opinion, while others will look for this kind of relationship throughout their life, taking it as an ideal. I don’t know, maybe family psychotherapy can help. But judging by the number of divorces, it is not a priority.
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There is a feeling of loneliness, but this is more due to external factors rather than internal ones.
By and large, there is enough communication, but this communication is 95% related to business and work.
Family communication over the years too mediocre and fits into one word everyday life. And this is true for many.
And for that communication there is simply no time.
And yes - sometimes, after a crazy day, it’s just comfortable spend time alone with yourself.
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◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊: 04 May 2023, 16:08 but there are difficulties in communicating with people
And what exactly prevents you from building contact?
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Markul, You have a very strong and stable psyche, you can withstand such a pace!
Well, or I’m weak, since I indulge in such reasoning.
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Aion2012Dead: 04 May 2023, 20:32 Well, or I’m weak, since I indulge in such reasoning.
This is all fixable.

And so Circumstances force you to keep the pace, but that’s even good.

And the need for normal communication can also be solved.
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Markul, Come on, don’t worry about it.
I have much deeper deviations, although I consider them correct, and not the rest of the world.
It’s a pity you can’t give an example of an ideal world.
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Aion2012Dead: 04 May 2023, 20:46 I have much deeper deviations, although I consider them correct, and not the rest of the world
In fact, these deviations prevent you from living a full life, choice everyone to feed their cockroaches further or to live more fully.

For example:
I can with all my heart want to become a Roman legionnaire, look for the same people, write and think about it without ceasing, but the reality is that this will never happen.
And since this cannot happen, I’d rather fill my brain with something else.
There are too many people on this forum who want to bring a certain topic to life and you feed each other fairy tales, but if only a few have achieved something, then there is nothing good in it, short satisfaction of your goal, and then returning to the real living world - this will not bring anything good.
Change, borrow your head with something else, enter a different social circle in real life, this will change a lot. For example, the gym, I had a positive experience in this, many people come there and just chat.
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Markul: 04 May 2023, 21:09
Aion2012Dead: 04 May 2023, 20:46 I have much deeper deviations, although I consider them correct, and not the rest of the world
In fact, these deviations hinder you to live fully, the choice of everyone to continue to feed their cockroaches or to live more fully.

For example:
I can with all my heart want to become a Roman legionnaire, look for the same people, write and I can’t stop thinking about it, but the reality is that it will never happen.
And since it can’t happen, I’d rather fill my brain with something else.
There are too many people on this forum who want to make it happen into life a certain theme and you feed each other fairy tales, but if only a few have achieved something, then there is nothing good in it, short satisfaction of your goal, and then returning to the real living world - this will not bring anything good. Change, occupy your mind with something else, enter a different social circle in real life, this will change a lot.
For example, the gym, I had a positive experience in this, many people come there and just chat.
Well, I generally agree with you. Say the right things. And maybe someone will hear and apply it.
I, for example, won’t be able to. I’m just not interested, I don’t want and don’t need to fill my world with another meaning.
I am fixated and obsessed with my unsatisfied desire to have my sister.
I will not become a rapist on this basis - because it does not correspond to my fantasy, but I will believe in another life, astral travel, reincarnation and excision in another world!
Because, I am an infantile, in life.
If I want something, it will last forever until it comes true. And if it doesn’t come true, then it will stay with me until the end of my life, and maybe even after it.

As you suggest - to get it out of my head and not feed my cockroaches - this is not about me. I am 90% made up of all this.
And just dissolving - I am not capable of this - this is WORSE than suicide.
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Aion2012Dead: 04 May 2023, 21:26
Markul: 04 May 2023, 21:09
Aion2012Dead: 04 May 2023, 20:46 I have much deeper deviations, although I consider them correct, and not the rest of the world
In fact these deviations prevent you from living fully, the choice of everyone is to continue to feed their cockroaches or to live more fully.

For example:
I can with all my heart want to become a Roman legionnaire, look for the same people, write and think about it incessantly, but the reality is that this will never happen.
And since this can’t happen, I’d better fill my brain with something else.
This forum has gathered There are too many people who want to bring a certain theme to life and you feed each other fairy tales, but if only a few have achieved something, then there is nothing good in it, short satisfaction of their goal, and then returning to the real living world - this will not bring anything good.
Change, occupy your mind with something else, enter a different social circle in real life, this will change a lot.
For example, the gym, I had a positive experience in this, many people come there and just chat. n
Well, I generally agree with you. Say the right things. And maybe someone will hear and apply it.
I, for example, won’t be able to. I’m just not interested, I don’t want and don’t need to fill my world with another meaning.
I am fixated and obsessed with my unsatisfied desire to have my sister.
I will not become a rapist on this basis - because it does not correspond to my fantasy, but I will believe in another life, astral travel, reincarnation and excision in another world!
Because, I am an infantile, in life.
If I want something, it will last forever until it comes true. And if it doesn’t come true, then it will stay with me until the end of my life, and maybe even after it.

As you suggest - to get it out of my head and not feed my cockroaches - this is not about me. I am 90% of all this.
And just dissolving - I am not capable of this - this is WORSE than suicide.
n Do you like to suffer? Just answer this question without further considerations.
SUFFER - do you like this feeling?
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Aion2012Dead: 04 May 2023, 15:43 I’m almost 33. There was no relationship
Do you want it now? Well, go ahead and get acquainted.
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Markul: 04 May 2023, 20:27
◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊: 04 May 2023, 16:08 but there are difficulties in communicating with people
A What exactly prevents you from building contact?
you can’t tell it in a few words. Usually when you write something like this, especially on such forums. They usually say: you’re a couple, go out, bend over, and all your men will be there, and if you’re still without panties, then you’ll completely crowd the whole street)))
But the mentality is such that it’s difficult to communicate, and the negative experience you’ve lived imposes its imprint on communication with people, especially with men.
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◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊: 04 May 2023, 21:38
Markul: 04 May 2023, 20:27
◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊: 04 May 2023, 16:08 but there are difficulties in communicating with people n
And what exactly prevents you from building contact?
you can’t tell in a nutshell. Usually when you write something like this, especially on such forums. They usually say: you’re a couple, go out, bend over, and all your men will be there, and if you’re still without panties, then you’ll completely crowd the whole street)))
But the mentality is such that it’s difficult to communicate, and the negative experience you’ve lived imposes its imprint on communication with people, especially with men.
I understand.
For example, it’s hard for me to make new acquaintances, and even more so to talk heart to heart with someone, it takes a lot of time for a person to take root in my soul.
And I also have negative experiences in communicating with the opposite sex...
At work, however, I often have to communicate with new people and decide some common problems... Phrases from the resume "stress resistance and communication skills" have to be worked out. But this does not replace live communication.
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After the author’s phrase - "I want to have my sister" it became boring. A completely unpromising and harmful desire.
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Do you like to suffer? Just answer this question without further reasoning.
SUFFERING - do you like this feeling?
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Apparently and most likely - YES!
Otherwise , why am I so pleased to be in my comfort zone, where I am an unrecognized and misunderstood victim?
Probably I like to suffer, and in order to satisfy my urges for socialization, from time to time I post such things for everyone to see posts or comments.
I can perfectly understand and disassemble the mechanism of my psyche, why what and how. But for some reason I can’t stop acting and living like this.
Apparently everything suits me............ which is sad (((
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Markul: 04 May 2023, 21:43 And there is also a negative experience in communicating with the opposite sex...
Every man has a negative experience in communicating with women, I will even say more - such experience is a must, every man should be rejected by a woman at least once. Only after receiving such a refusal does a man become... how can I say this, full-fledged or something, but we men are afraid to gain such an experience, hence the lack of determination in communicating with women, and this is exactly the situation for the author of this topic.
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attentive1,
I just want to say - Yes, okay!
But of course I won’t say that - Yes, okay!
A very obvious and sarcastic response to such an answer - Yes, okay!
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rynda: 04 May 2023, 21:51
Markul: 04 May 2023, 21:43 And there is also negative experience in communicating with the opposite sex...
Every man has negative experience in communicating with women, even I’ll say more - such an experience should be a must, every man should be refused by a woman at least once. Only after receiving such a refusal does a man become... how can I say this, full-fledged or something, but we men are afraid to gain such an experience, hence the lack of determination in communicating with women, and this is exactly the situation for the author of this topic.
I furiously upvote. Cognac for you :-D

The author of the topic has a different situation.
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Markul: 04 May 2023, 21:54 The author of the topic has a different situation.
I didn’t read the beginning of the topic
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Aion2012Dead: 04 May 2023, 21:50 Do you like to suffer? Just answer this question without further reasoning.
SUFFERING - do you like this feeling?
Apparently and most likely - YES!
Otherwise, why am I so pleased to be in my comfort zone, where I am an unrecognized and misunderstood victim?
Probably I like to suffer, and in order to satisfy my urges for socialization, I, from time to time, post on such posts or comments are for everyone to see.
I can perfectly understand and disassemble the mechanism of my psyche, why what and how. But for some reason I can’t stop acting and living like this.
Apparently everything suits me............ which is sad (((
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Well, finally you answered, and first of all to yourself .

And you don’t like to suffer, I assure you, it cannot be that a person likes to suffer. The reason why you just described everything this way is your comfort zone at the same time. it’s good there, but there are also a lot of minuses.
It may be much better for you if you move from it to another reality, even if it’s one that also has minuses (and they will always be), but in which there won’t be this word "suffer".
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Markul,
I agree with you .
And I immediately apologize for creating an essentially empty topic.
After all, I always remain with my opinion, always. always
Yes, I repeated it twice.. Always.
But I was interested in hearing other people’s opinions and at least somehow communicating with other people on a topic that is significant to me.
I am very I am grateful to you and everyone who responded.
I am very pleased to feel connected with the world around me. to know and realize that I am alive, I think, I exist and I can communicate with others.

For some reason, it is in the topic that I created myself - this is felt. And in the rest where I write, it’s like a matrix or an illusion. Strange..

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Markul: 04 May 2023, 21:58 Well, finally you answered, and first of all to yourself.

And you don’t like to suffer, I assure you, it cannot be that a person likes to suffer. You just described the reason why everything is so. Your suffering is your comfort zone. You feel good there at the same time, but there are also a lot of disadvantages.
You may feel much better if you move from it to another reality, even if it is one in which there will also be disadvantages (and they will always be), but in which there are no will be this word "suffer".

The only thing I can say is that I don’t see the point in changing anything.
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Aion2012Dead: 04 May 2023, 22:05 The only thing I can say is that I don’t see the point in changing anything.
Well then, this loneliness and suffering will remain with you.

When you get even older and at some point you realize that the picture in your head is not at all the same, and it WAS not so difficult to draw another one, then even more sadness will come for the lost time in which you could LIVE and not feed the cockroaches in your head. And this will happen, it happens to everyone. Sometimes I myself come to the realization that it’s time to repair the current paradigm - this repair is not easy, but it brings results, I advise.
Aion2012Dead: And in the rest where I write, it’s like a matrix or an illusion. It’s strange..
But because people come to those topics only to write what they have, or to read what they need, and not to communicate .
And then communication happened.
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Hello, man! Write about your sister, age, married, have a child?
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Markul: 04 May 2023, 21:43 I understand.
For example, it’s hard for me to make new acquaintances, and even more so to have a heart-to-heart conversation with someone; it takes a lot of time for a person to take root in my soul.
And also a negative experience in communication with the opposite sex...
At work, however, you often have to communicate with new people and solve some common problems...Phrases from the resume "stress resistance and communication skills" have to be practiced. But this does not replace live communication.
What negative experience of communicating with the opposite sex?..
I just communicate with F and most of them have had problems since childhood there were, someone was molested, someone was raped, in adulthood there were also similar episodes.
There is also something that you need to get used to a person, let them into your soul.
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Markul: 04 May 2023, 22:12
Aion2012Dead: 04 May 2023, 22:05 The only thing I can say is that I don’t see the point in changing anything.
Well then, this loneliness and suffering will remain so with you.

When you get even older and at some point you realize that the picture in your head is not at all the same, and it WAS not so difficult to draw another, then even more sadness will come for lost time in which you could LIVE, and not feed the cockroaches in your head. And this will happen, it happens to everyone. Sometimes I myself come to the realization that it’s time to repair the current paradigm - this repair is not easy, but it brings results, I advise.
Aion2012Dead: And in the rest where I write, it’s like a matrix or an illusion. It’s strange..
But because people come to those topics only to write what they have, or to read what they need, and not to communicate .
And here it was communication that happened.
Much more!!! and I so regret what I didn’t do when I was 14-18, namely, to seduce my sister.
This is my biggest regret in my entire life.
I went through death, funeral, her marriage, the birth of a daughter, my sister’s denial of my presence.
I don’t need another life, other opportunities, other people - I want a sister! And I will want to until my death.
You may turn out to be right in some ways... But definitely not in this.
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◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊: 04 May 2023, 22:13 What negative experience of communicating with the opposite sex?..
So tell me were not appreciated, but were used more, right from childhood I was a “good friend” - with all the consequences,
Then a good guy - with all the consequences,
Then an excellent husband - there is generally "everything great",
... well, etc.
This is a long conversation, best thing around the fire with good fish and proper alcohol)))
◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊: 04 May 2023, 22:13 I just communicate with F and most of them have had problems since childhood, some were molested, some were raped
This would be conveyed to those who on this forum believe that children themselves want them...
I actually know two women who were raped in adolescence, not everything is good there now with head in terms of relationships.
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Aion2012Dead: 04 May 2023, 22:19 and I so regret what I didn’t do when I was 14-18, namely, to seduce my sister.
And you can’t do it anymore - forget about it, move on with your life.
Aion2012Dead: 04 May 2023, 22:19 sister’s denial of my presence.
So where did your desire lead you?
Aion2012Dead: 04 May 2023, 22:19 I don’t need another life
This is the comfort zone described above. You just don’t realize that you need it.
If we speak in parables, then stop watering the weed in your head, pull it out and plant a rose there, or other flowers from the greenhouse, there is a wide choice.
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This would be conveyed to those who on this forum believe that children themselves want them...
I actually know two women who were raped as teenagers, not everything is good there now in terms of relationships.
Well, don’t make this an absolute rule of life!
I won’t believe it!
I’ve watched enough porn to be sure that some teenage boys and girls are fully aware of everything and enjoy the process!

And now We have two opinions - yours and mine.

It cannot be assumed that ALL children want early sexual experience - but there are some who do!

And violence and coercion are disgusting, such monsters deserve death - I agree here!!

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This is the comfort zone described above. You just don’t realize that you need it.
If we speak in parables, then stop watering the weed in your head, pull it out and plant a rose there, or other flowers from the greenhouse, there is a wide choice.
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Well, I’ll pull it out (the weed) and start cultivating another thought and idea....
Okay.
What will change?
I’ll just betray yourself, your very essence.
I will become an impersonal nobody.
Well, in the end I will die like all people.
With my way of thinking, I will at least remain myself and die as myself.
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◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊: 04 May 2023, 21:38
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◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊: 04 May 2023, 16:08 but there are difficulties in communicating with people n
And what exactly prevents you from building contact?
you can’t tell in a nutshell. Usually when you write something like this, especially on such forums. They usually say: you’re a couple, go out, bend over, and all your men will be there, and if you’re still without panties, then you’ll completely crowd the whole street)))
But the mentality is such that it’s difficult to communicate, and the negative experience you’ve lived imposes your imprint on communication with people, especially with men.
There are dating sites, write what kind of relationship you are interested in, and many young candidates will immediately appear)))
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Aion2012Dead: 04 May 2023, 22:31
This would be conveyed to those who on this forum believe that children themselves want them...
I actually know two women who were raped in adolescence, not everything is good there now in terms of relationships.
Well, don’t make this an absolute rule of life!
I won’t believe it!
I’ve watched enough porn to be sure that some teenage boys and girls are fully aware of everything and enjoy the process!

And now We have two opinions - yours and mine.

It cannot be assumed that ALL children want early sexual experience - but there are some who do!

And violence and coercion are disgusting, such monsters deserve death - I agree here!!
porn is an unreliable source of information.
I talked to a gynecologist and she said that a girl should have fully formed genitals before having sex. And early sexual intercourse often leads to Venus and infertility.
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◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊: 04 May 2023, 22:38 I talked to a gynecologist and she said that a girl should have fully formed genitals before having sex.
and at what age are they formed?
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◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊: 04 May 2023, 22:38 I talked to a gynecologist and she said that a girl should have fully formed genitalia before having sex.
and at what age are they formed?
at 17-18 years old
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Aion2012Dead: 04 May 2023, 22:31 watched enough porn to be sure that some teenage boys and girls are fully aware of everything and enjoy the process!
I realized what I wrote ?

Do you judge real life by porn? Moreover, with the participation of children, when the operator tells them what to do? Then I have bad news for you - you actually have no idea about real life.

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◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊: 04 May 2023, 22:46
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◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊: 04 May 2023, 22:38 She also spoke with a gynecologist She said that a girl should have fully formed genitals before having sex.
and at what age are they formed?
at 17-18 years old
A woman is fully formed for childbearing no earlier than 16-17, any anthropologist will tell you this, but now experts who have seen enough of “pregnant at 15” will come and start talking crap that "they’re giving birth!" not knowing that the entire pregnancy is under strict control with vitamins and medications, the child is most often premature, and the young mother barely survived from toxicosis and had to be cesareaned to at least save her life.
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Not a social phobe, but probably an introvert. In short, I don’t want to talk to people I don’t know well, but if I remain silent, I feel uncomfortable) in the end I have to squeeze out some kind of communication) because of this, very few people with whom I reach the stage of close relationships, in the end, yes, Sometimes I feel lonely. Because of this feeling, you usually go on dating sites, look for a couple, and when something starts to happen, you have a desire to stop it all because of some reasons that seem important. Maybe I’m just used to being alone. I want to believe that I’m just looking for an ideal 😁
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Markul: 04 May 2023, 22:54
◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊: 04 May 2023, 22:46
rynda: 04 May 2023, 22:40 and at what age are they formed?
at 17-18 years old
A woman is fully formed for childbearing no earlier than 16-17, any anthropologist will tell you this, but now experts who have seen enough will come calling " pregnant at 15" and they will start talking crap that"they’re giving birth!", not knowing that the entire pregnancy is under strict control on vitamins and medications, the child is most often premature, and the young mother barely survived from toxicosis, and she had to Caesarean to save at least her life.
birth at 15 is terrible, of course..
But I also mean that physically everything is in place: uterus, vagina, but the bacterial barrier is not yet fully formed. An acidic environment must be formed in the vaginal mucosa with its symbiotic bacteria, which fight against any infection, and in girls this barrier is imperfect, so their sexual health is very fragile.
And if there was rough sex with gaps... through damage to the mucous membrane, pathogenic bacteria immediately penetrate into the blood.
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Markul: 04 May 2023, 22:54
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and at what age are they formed?
at 17-18 years old
A woman is fully formed for childbearing no earlier than 16-17, any anthropologist will tell you this, but now the experts will come who have seen enough of "pregnant at 15" and will start talking crap that "they’re giving birth!", not knowing that the entire pregnancy is under strict control on vitamins and medications, the child is most often premature, and the young mother barely survived from toxicosis , and she had to be caesareaned to save at least her life.
More than 20 years ago, an obstetrician told me that over several years of work, his patients had given birth all with pathology, without pathology, that is, easily, only two women gave birth with him, they were athletes.
He told about already formed women...
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XyaH: 04 May 2023, 19:47 it’s just stupidly more comfortable to sleep alone, everything is immediately taken personally. Just like some women strive to take a shower together every time
Women perceive everything through themselves. You won’t be able to convince me otherwise. I think every woman in her soul believes that the whole world revolves around her, even if her brain understands that this is not so. Women love themselves more. Therefore, if something does not fit into the usual stereotype, it is necessarily because you treat her that way.
Aion2012Dead: 04 May 2023, 20:04 family psychotherapy can help. But judging by the number of divorces, it is not a priority.
Yes, it simply does not work. Family psychologists (like other psychologists) are ordinary fortune tellers, but with a diploma. And their job is to extract money from people who already have something wrong. The usual profiteering on people’s desire to get rid of negativity. It seems to me that a heart-to-heart conversation with a loved one (a good friend or relative) is much more productive than an hour of chatting with a person who doesn’t care about you, who is completely off topic, and everything is based on your words.
Markul: 04 May 2023, 22:12 there will be more sadness for the lost time in which you could LIVE, and not feed the cockroaches in your head
I think this is the very essence of life. Development cycle. It doesn’t happen that you live and are like, “Oh, yes, I lived the last 30 years as I should, without a single mistake, what a great guy I am!” Well, that is. it happens... people who are not capable of introspection :-D And so everyone has their own cockroaches and their own regrets. Someone corrects the situation, someone puts up with it, someone drowns in it, and someone simply does not notice that something is wrong. There’s also this thing... what’s wrong for one person may be just what’s needed for another. The world does not have one template for everyone; everyone looks through their own prism. And maybe what you consider and see as a problem for another is not a problem at all.
Serg_A: 04 May 2023, 23:12 the obstetrician said that over several years of work, his patients all had pathological births
uh....maybe he’s a lousy doctor? :-D

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Markul: 04 May 2023, 22:49 And the weed sits well. He even manipulates your consciousness. Makes you think that he is the real you, but this is not so.
Here you remind me of the churchmen who "treated" gays, trying to burn them out of them "weed" and make them "right". More precisely, as they consider the norm. But there are simply people who are attracted only to their own gender. They cannot be cured. Why don’t you admit that this is “he’s real”? Well, it’s clear that you don’t like him like that (I don’t either), but that doesn’t mean that that’s not his essence as such. Since you like botanical metaphors so much, you look at a bush, you want it to be a rose, you prune it like a rose, fertilize it like a rose, take care of it... but it’s a damn thistle! He was and will remain so! At least torment him all his life.
There are people with various deviations in sexual behavior. And the topic is broader than gays and lesbians, although these were recognized as the norm, while others were not, this was dictated ONLY by the danger to society of certain forms of behavior. And here I believe that if someone is able to keep their deviant inclinations exclusively in fantasies, let them be. Incapable, dangerous - then isolate him. The main thing is not to influence others. Trying to “fix” everyone (fit them into the usual pattern) is counterproductive.
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Gudgeon: 05 May 2023, 01:33 Here you remind me of the churchmen who “treated” gays, trying to burn out the “weed” from them and make them “the way they should be.” More precisely, as they consider the norm. But there are simply people who are attracted only to their own gender. They cannot be cured. Why don’t you admit that this is “he’s real”? Well, it’s clear that you don’t like him like that (I don’t either), but that doesn’t mean that that’s not his essence as such. Since you like botanical metaphors so much, you look at a bush, you want it to be a rose, you prune it like a rose, fertilize it like a rose, take care of it... but it’s a damn thistle! They were and will remain so! At least torment him all his life.
He himself suffers from what is going on in his head, but he doesn’t want to part with it.

If I step on a nail, I will pull it out of my foot and treat the wound, and I will not say: this is my nail, my whole destiny is with it, you don’t understand anything!
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Markul, so it suffers, who cares? But this does not mean that he can change anything. It’s the same as a gay man who suffers because he’s gay, he won’t suddenly become straight through an effort of will. You look from the position of “life was normal, then something broke, now we need to fix it.” But this is not always the case. It could have been like this from the beginning.
In general, this is a topic for theorizing; no one from the outside will “fix” the situation or even evaluate it 100% correctly.
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Gudgeon: 05 May 2023, 02:36 Markul, who suffers so much? That. But this does not mean that he can change anything. It’s the same as a gay man who suffers because he’s gay, he won’t suddenly become straight through an effort of will. You look from the position of “life was normal, then something broke, now we need to fix it.” But this is not always the case. It could have been like this from the beginning.
In general, this is a topic for theorizing, no one from the outside will "fix" the situation or even evaluate it 100% correctly.
The matter, as they say, is not mine. But if a person really suffers from something, then he needs to change something in his life.

At least he can go and fuck a man, he is gay, it is not prohibited by law, but here he is clearly condemned by law and society scenario.

We are waiting on the forum for corpse-killers, these have not yet been seen, and we will also begin to empathize with them, apparently.
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In general, the topic was about loneliness.
The most interesting topic in our time.
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Yes. The topic about loneliness is more interesting!
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Yes, really... Such a complex topic has developed... Although in essence everything is simple! Man is a social being. But, at the same time, it is individual. The individual appears much earlier than the social - immediately with birth.
Family, mom and dad, grandparents and other aunts and uncles create a cozy atmosphere of a wonderful world where everything
revolves around the baby! Everyone loves him, everyone pampers him, everyone admires him! The child feels like the navel of the Earth!!! And gets used to his privileged position - it’s so wonderful to be the Center of everyone’s attention and worship! But circumstances change very quickly! Brothers and sisters are born, the child ends up in a kindergarten, school, and simply grows out of short pants... And that’s it! He is no longer in the Center of universal admiration and worship! We must adapt to new circumstances! SOCIALIZE!!! That is, get used to living in a society of your own kind! And this is terrible stress! How?! Me - and someone else???!!! Am I supposed to take someone else into account???!!! Never!!!!!! NEVER!!!!!!!! Only... man is a social being! And society grinds and rebuilds any individual to suit itself. Makes him a member of society. But... not completely. Even the most conformist keeps a fig in his pocket! And he cherishes his deviations from the social standard: including sexual ones! And he becomes homophobes or homosexuals, pedophiles or pedophiles, zoophiles or zoophobes... (I deliberately omit all other inclinations: to science, to art, to politics, etc.) And the person hides and cherishes his deviations, and doesn’t want to part with them! Even at the level of fantasies and dreams! And it will be very wonderful if all his cockroaches continue to graze in the meadow of perverted dreams, and do not begin to realize themselves to the horror of those around them!..
And what can you advise TS? Contact a psychotherapist who will help in implementing correct socialization
and accepting socially significant values ​​into your bins of personal values... You can, of course, fence yourself off with a powerful fence of psychological protection of your current self and live on as you have lived until now . But here you will have to suffer and suffer. The choice is up to the person...
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niqk: 05 May 2023, 06:26 Yes, really... Such a complex topic has developed... Although in essence everything is simple! Man is a social being. But, at the same time, it is individual. The individual appears much earlier than the social - immediately with birth.
Family, mom and dad, grandparents and other aunts and uncles create a cozy atmosphere of a wonderful world where everything
revolves around the baby! Everyone loves him, everyone pampers him, everyone admires him! The child feels like the navel of the Earth!!! And gets used to his privileged position - it’s so wonderful to be the Center of everyone’s attention and worship! But circumstances change very quickly! Brothers and sisters are born, the child ends up in a kindergarten, school, and simply grows out of short pants... And that’s it! He is no longer in the Center of universal admiration and worship! We must adapt to new circumstances! SOCIALIZE!!! That is, get used to living in a society of your own kind! And this is terrible stress! How?! Me - and someone else???!!! Am I supposed to take someone else into account???!!! Never!!!!!! NEVER!!!!!!!! Only... man is a social being! And society grinds and rebuilds any individual to suit itself. Makes him a member of society. But... not completely. Even the most conformist keeps a fig in his pocket! And he cherishes his deviations from the social standard: including sexual ones! And he becomes homophobes or homosexuals, pedophiles or pedophiles, zoophiles or zoophobes... (I deliberately omit all other inclinations: to science, to art, to politics, etc.) And the person hides and cherishes his deviations, and doesn’t want to part with them! Even at the level of fantasies and dreams! And it will be very wonderful if all his cockroaches continue to graze in the meadow of perverted dreams, and do not begin to realize themselves to the horror of those around them!..
And what can you advise TS? Contact a psychotherapist who will help in implementing correct socialization
and accepting socially significant values ​​into your bins of personal values... You can, of course, fence yourself off with a powerful fence of psychological protection of your current self and live on as you have lived until now . But here you will have to suffer and suffer. The choice is up to the person...
Nevermind, no psychologist can cure this, my cousin has been going to psychologists for several years, he was a psycho, so he is left, money down the drain...
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Well, there can be many options: depending on which psychologist, depending on which patient, depending on which case, depending...
Yes, and even if the patient is a rich Pinocchio... :bel_flag:
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