Fantastic. What worked and what didn't?

Unread post by **Gudgeon** » 30 May 2023, 16:40

I’ll create a topic, I hope the forum will support it. Inspired by the lack of decent fiction in recent years. No, I’m not talking about a primitive viewing experience at the Marvel/DS level. And about something more worthy of wasting time. You can remember the TV series too. tell someone what happened.
I decided to look at "From the Outside". But I was pretty disappointed. The theme of mysticism/fantasy/horror is very close to me (I love King, too), but the series descended into chatter literally right away...
But by the way, nothing worthwhile has been filmed based on King for a long time... What do you mean? is flawed compared to "The Shining" "Doctor Sleep"... Baby talk... But for example "Stranger" was not bad. Not ideal, but passable.
In general, write, who liked what from science fiction?

Unread post by **etc** » 30 May 2023, 17:37

Yes, the movie is getting worse and worse. I read and listen to audiobooks, there is more choice there.

Unread post by **Arianna** » 30 May 2023, 19:46

I’m a fan of American Horror Story, not all seasons, but still.
Respect to the actors who play a different character in each season.
I love horror, but I haven’t seen any good ones for a long time. Or maybe I was more impressionable before, now it’s hard to scare))
From my favorites, darkness, for example, if I remember something else, I’ll write, I haven’t woken up yet
Py. Sy. I saw horrors in the text and wrote about horrors, but the title, however, was about science fiction

I definitely didn’t wake up

Unread post by **King Bird** » 30 May 2023, 20:01

Arianna: 30 May 2023, 19:46 I saw horror in the text, and wrote about horror, but the title, however, is about science fiction

Horror and science fiction are often intertwined into a single genre, American Horror Story - by the way , a very good series.

But science fiction in cinema is a very broad topic. "From the Outside" that TS is talking about, or "Aquaman" or "The Master and Margarita" - all this is essentially fantasy.

Unread post by **rasaroam** » 30 May 2023, 21:37

Nobody can come up with anything better than "Star Wars" in science fiction

Although I personally also like films about time travel or about a "time loop", like "Groundhog Day".

Unread post by **Arianna** » 30 May 2023, 21:42

Rasrom: 30 May 2023, 21:37 about a "time loop", like "Groundhog Day".

With Tom Cruise, the edge of the future is supposedly called
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And Interstellar then too)

Unread post by **AlexTDV** » 30 May 2023, 21:43

Nowadays it’s not profitable to make films with deep meaning, they won’t pay for themselves at the box office, now we need action, a simpler picture and plot)

Unread post by **rasaroam** » 30 May 2023, 21:52

Arianna: 30 May 2023, 21:42
Rasrom: 30 May 2023, 21:37 about "time loop", like "Groundhog Day".
With Tom Cruise, Edge of the Future is supposedly called

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And Interstellar then there too )

Yes, "Edge of the Future" - nothing like that, very dynamic.
But " Interstellar didn’t work: too abstruse.
But I like "Happy Death Day"

PS. Of course, I like "Men in Black"!! I generally adore sci-fi comedies.

Unread post by **Arianna** » 30 May 2023, 21:54

Rasrom: 30 May 2023, 21:52 PS. Of course, I like "Men in Black"!! I generally adore fantasy comedies

The first part of men in black is forever in my heart

Unread post by **AlexTDV** » 30 May 2023, 22:23

Arianna: 30 May 2023, 21:54
Rasrom: 30 May 2023, 21:52 PS. Of course, I like "Men in Black"!! I generally adore fantasy comedies
The first part of men in black is forever in my heart

But 4 is just terrible, nothing at all! )

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Transformers the first parts were nothing like that, Star Wars, but both of them went down the drain)) I liked Prometheus 2012, Judge Dredd 2012 was ok, I Am Legend, Planet of the Apes 2011, Interstellar, Nollan’s Batman, DC from Zack Snyder was ok, some films Marvel and of course the Matrix trilogy, this is generally a masterpiece!

Unread post by **rasaroam** » 30 May 2023, 23:45

AlexTDV: 30 May 2023, 22:32
Arianna: 30 May 2023, 21:54
Rasrom: 30 May 2023, 21:52 PS. Of course, I like "Men in Black"!! I generally adore fantasy comedies
The first part of men in black is forever in my heart
But 4 is just terrible, nothing at all! )

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Transformers the first parts were nothing like that, Star Wars, but both of them went down the drain)) I liked Prometheus 2012, Judge Dredd 2012 was ok, I Am Legend, Planet of the Apes 2011, Interstellar, Nollan’s Batman, DC from Zack Snyder was ok, some films Marvel and of course the Matrix trilogy, this is generally a masterpiece!

Prometheus and 2012 - yes.
The Matrix - fifty-fifty. Transformers - just a one-time watch.
Plageta of monkeys is only the first part of the norm.
There are some good ones from Marvel, yes. For example, I liked "Eternals".
Many of Nolan’s ones are quite good. For example, "Start".

Unread post by **Arianna** » 31 May 2023, 01:37

Rasrom: 30 May 2023, 23:45 For example, "The Beginning".

Start with DiCaprio? Super movie. Now if I dream about some scary stuff, I try to jump from the roof, it helps me wake up

Unread post by **Lust From Beyond** » 31 May 2023, 01:39

To be honest, I haven’t read the messages on this topic yet, maybe they have already been voiced. German series Dark from Netflix. The first and even the second season are very worthy. But then everything was leaked

Unread post by **opposite** » 31 May 2023, 01:45

Max Ostrogin - "Inferno" ...great reading! I highly recommend it!

Unread post by **Gudgeon** » 31 May 2023, 01:56

Arianna: 30 May 2023, 19:46 From my favorite haze

Well, this is a classic! One of the best King adaptations. There’s both horror and fantasy. This is my favorite

However, don’t get hung up on it, I gave it as an example.
Edge of Tomorrow and Interstellar - both came in and were good. This is rarely filmed.

Rasrom: 30 May 2023, 21:37 No one can come up with anything better than "Star Wars" in science fiction

Well, this is... not for everyone. In principle, I respect the series, but I wouldn’t say it’s the best. The old films are quite naive, but interesting to watch, but the new ones somehow didn’t work, the characters are “not the same compote.”
Happy Death Day - I didn’t watch it. This will be something to look at over the weekend.
Well, "the beginning" yes, my respects.

vvm: 30 May 2023, 17:37 I listen to audio books

I can’t stand it audiobooks. I have dissonance. When I read, it’s like I have my own inner voice. And the broadcasting of "readers" infuriates me...

AlexTDV: 30 May 2023, 21:43 It’s not profitable to make films with deep meaning, they won’t pay off at the box office, now we need action, a simpler picture and plot

Well, I’m talking about the same thing... It’s just about all the transformers, Marvels and others like them. It’s still not for me at all, it looks like expensive special effects and a stupid plot... Eh. They are filming for the "average" viewer who brings money to the cinema. And the average viewer, apparently, is a little stupid and expects a picture and a plot in three lines.

From the fact that I really like it offhand - "12 Monkeys" was quite good.
I have a lot of respect for Aronofsky. "Fountain" is one of my favorites (of course it’s not science fiction)
Tarsem Singh - my respect, but it doesn’t shoot smoothly, sometimes it’s good, sometimes it’s garbage. "The Cage" and "Outland" are great films in my opinion. If it comes to mind, I’ll add it.

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LustFromBeyond: 31 May 2023, 01:39 series Darkness

Didn’t work for me. That’s it in general. Syria is empty, 2 minutes of events per episode. I watched half of the first season and quit. It’s boring, I almost died... You can watch it on rewind - you don’t lose anything. Everyone is also relatives to each other, sit down and remember them. Unnecessary semantic load.

Unread post by **Marion** » 31 May 2023, 02:26

If it’s on topic, and so that it all comes together: the series plus King plus time travel - I unexpectedly liked "Secrets of Haven". And another recent one is the British "Hour of the Devil" (but this is no longer according to King).

Unread post by **Gudgeon** » 31 May 2023, 02:43

Marion: 31 May 2023, 02:26Secrets of Haven

Interesting. Did not watch. And the Devil’s Hour too

Unread post by **IDVS03082008** » 31 May 2023, 04:08

I read the book Aliens. Russian landing ", I don’t remember the author (you can find out) standard

Unread post by **Gudgeon** » 31 May 2023, 04:34

malon: 31 May 2023, 01:45 Max Ostrogin - "Inferno" ...great reading! I highly recommend it!

IDVS03082008: 31 May 2023, 04:08 I read the book “Aliens”. Russian landing " , I don’t remember the author (you can find out) standard

Hmm... Comrades, we are talking about movies/serials here. The section is called " cinema". The first message is about films.
Probably should have been indicated in the topic title, but there was no way to edit it.
admin, or you can somehow correct the topic title to
"Fiction (films/series). What worked and what didn’t?"
Otherwise there will be confusion. I understand that people don’t look at which section the topic is in and what’s in the first post.

Unread post by **rasaroam** » 31 May 2023, 09:30

Gudgeon: 31 May 2023, 01:57
Arianna: 30 May 2023, 19:46 From my favorite haze
Well, this is a classic! One of the best King adaptations. There’s both horror and fantasy. This is my favorite However, don’t get hung up on it, I gave it as an example.
Edge of Tomorrow and Interstellar - both came in and were good. This is rarely filmed.
Rasrom: 30 May 2023, 21:37 No one can come up with anything better than "Star Wars" in science fiction
Well, this is... not for everyone. In principle, I respect the series, but I wouldn’t say it’s the best. The old films are quite naive, but interesting to watch, but the new ones somehow didn’t work, the characters are “not the same compote.”
Happy Death Day - I didn’t watch it. This will be something to look at over the weekend.
Well, "the beginning" yes, my respects.
vvm: 30 May 2023, 17:37 I listen to audio books
I can’t stand it audiobooks. I have dissonance. When I read, it’s like I have my own inner voice. And the broadcasting of "readers" infuriates me...
AlexTDV: 30 May 2023, 21:43 It’s not profitable to make films with deep meaning, they won’t pay off at the box office, now we need action, a simpler picture and plot
Well, I’m talking about the same thing... It’s just about all the transformers, Marvels and others like them. It’s still not for me at all, it looks like expensive special effects and a stupid plot... Eh. They are filming for the "average" viewer who brings money to the cinema. And the average viewer, apparently, is a little stupid and expects a picture and a plot in three lines.

From the fact that I really like it offhand - "12 Monkeys" was quite good.
I have a lot of respect for Aronofsky. "Fountain" is one of my favorites (of course it’s not science fiction)
Tarsem Singh - my respect, but it doesn’t shoot smoothly, sometimes it’s good, sometimes it’s garbage. "The Cage" and "Outland" are great films in my opinion. If it comes to mind, I’ll add it.

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LustFromBeyond: 31 May 2023, 01:39 series Darkness
Didn’t work for me. That’s it in general. Syria is empty, 2 minutes of events per episode. I watched half of the first season and quit. It’s boring, I almost died... You can watch it on rewind - you don’t lose anything. Everyone is also relatives to each other, sit down and remember them. Unnecessary semantic load.

Yes, look at the weekend

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Unread post by **Veronica** » 10 Jun 2023, 07:22

I looked. Glad we are the first. But, and the plot, etc. no where.
Peresild, of course, is a beauty, but as a woman, she’s not interesting to me. My hair is both fuller and better, I don’t praise myself. Beauty.
But being the first in space is super. Russia (this must be chanted), forward....

Unread post by **Beluga** » 10 Jun 2023, 07:23

If you take books, then there are series about people who get caught.

Unread post by **Veronica** » 10 Jun 2023, 07:26

I read them all the time, whenever I have time.
I would like to change them, but? I thought, honestly. The present would change. I don’t regret anything,

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You’ll think I’m a fool, but I listened to a cartoon about a blue tractor, it was very intrusive.
I liked it. There were 13 animals in the trailer.. It was interesting to me.

Unread post by **Gudgeon** » 10 Jun 2023, 15:12

I don’t know what to do with the local population... Just send it to them: the topic is about films. Topic in the cinema section... But they’re fucking about books...

Unread post by **Broad** » 10 Jul 2023, 07:15

From science fiction...so...can mysticism come here too? According to King, the film adaptations: "Storm of the Century" - I think it’s an excellent, like a 4-hour film, "The Confrontation", "Losing Thinner", "Tomminockers", "Dreamcatcher", "Langoriers" , "Salem’s Fate", etc. The movie "Foundation" was made based on Isaac Asimov - I still haven’t figured out whether he’s "good" or "bad" (the book is very cool), "I’m a Robot." More films "The Omen" all parts (old version), "The Exorcist". Let them not scold me; I write mostly mysticism. "In the mouth of madness", "Dreams", "1408", "Mirrors", "The Day After Tomorrow" (more like a disaster movie..), "Pandorum", "Lex "The series is interesting in its own way. I’ll write something I remember..

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"District number 9","The Beginning","Equilibrium" - more like a science fiction action movie,"Upgrade"...

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"Faculty","Ant-Man ","Skyline"..

Unread post by **Cujoi** » 10 Jul 2023, 16:22

The film "Passengers" has something to think about

Unread post by **Lisa24** » 11 Jul 2023, 05:57

"Nope" by Jordan saw.horror.I like
"black crab".post-apocalypse. - I came across it by accident and it was also good

Unread post by **Lisa24** » 13 Jul 2023, 10:48

just now I was writing and remembered
love, death and robots
animated series
a masterpiece

Unread post by **Johnny.Monday** » 24 Aug 2023, 06:12

Interstellar awesome movie

Unread post by **aryamari** » 24 Aug 2023, 06:13

Cujoi: 10 Jul 2023, 16:22 The film "Passengers" there is something to think about there

American or domestic series?

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Johnny.Lendi: 24 Aug 2023, 06:12 Interstellar is an awesome movie

somehow it’s incomprehensible

Unread post by **Helga** » 24 Aug 2023, 07:02

but I liked the "child of a robot." interesting story.

Unread post by **evil Eeh** » 11 Oct 2023, 08:07

Helga: 24 Aug 2023, 07:02 I liked "child of a robot". interesting plot

Yes, a great movie.
From the not very popular: Through the Snow, Spectral, The Wandering Earth 1.2.
Well, classic Ridley Scott

Unread post by **BeachBunny** » 11 Oct 2023, 08:28

Maybe something from space horror films like: Inferno, Pandorum, Through the Horizon, Alive, etc.

Unread post by **evil Eeh** » 11 Oct 2023, 08:35

The series is not bad Origin. In Russia it is called Origin.

Unread post by **EgorPetrov** » 11 Oct 2023, 09:06

With age, everything became "flashy"... there is no novelty, perhaps only "Love, Death and Robots"... I’m waiting for the fourth season...
P.S. "Epidemic" more

More "The Eighth Sense", on the forum topic

Unread post by **Veronica** » 16 Oct 2023, 09:06

It’s a pity that you don’t read. So you will forget the letters.

Unread post by **Gudgeon** » 31 Oct 2023, 11:11

EgorPetrov: 11 Oct 2023, 09:06 perhaps only "Love, Death and Robots

But it didn’t work for me at all. Bosil on the 4th or 5th episode.

Unread post by **evil Eeh** » 08 Feb 2024, 03:39

Veronika: 16 Oct 2023, 09:06 It’s a pity that you don’t read. So you’ll forget the letters.

Why, let’s read. Now I’m finishing off Max Glebov. Good style, not too complicated. No vanilla or other props

Unread post by **Connecting rod** » 08 Feb 2024, 04:07

Of the recent ones that impressed me, I liked “Arrival” more than Interstellar. I rewatched it several times, because the meaning is double bottomed.
Also the miniseries 11.22.63 based on King. But it’s better to read the novel first. The novel is more complete and after the novel the film is clearer, a lot is missed in the film, but after the novel the film adaptation was very interesting. It’s not written in King’s style at all: there’s none of that characteristic build-up at the beginning, it’s captivating from the first pages

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I like "The Initiated" from those I watched before.

Unread post by **Richard Sorge** » 11 Feb 2024, 10:06

Rasrom: 30 May 2023, 21:52
Arianna: 30 May 2023, 21:42
Rasrom: 30 May 2023, 21:37 about the "time loop", like "Groundhog Day".
With Tom Cruise, the edge the future seems to be called

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AND Interstellar then there)

Yes, "Edge of Tomorrow" - nothing like that, dynamic.
nBut "Interstellar" didn’t work: it’s too abstruse.
But I like "Happy Death Day"

PS. Of course, I like "Men in Black"!! I generally adore science-fiction comedies.

the edge of the future has come! Strong thing!

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The series modified carbon. I was so impressed that I re-read all 3 books in one gulp. A kind of fantasy, but I was surprised by it!

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Another episode of the series. Except the last season

Unread post by **Manfred** » 11 Feb 2024, 10:50

There is already such a topic.
A series of books by the Strugatskys about the world of Midday. Perhaps I’ll list:
“Noon, XXII century”, “Attempt to escape”, “Distant Rainbow”, “It’s hard to be a god”, “Inhabited Island”, “Baby”, “Guy from the Underworld”, “ A beetle in an anthill" and "The waves extinguish the wind."
This is a world in which I would like to live. We screwed up the first attempt to build it by the end of the 80s. I hope we will return to that path.

11 Feb 2024, 10:54

If we talk about the Fantasy genre, even if it is not serious, then I really liked the film and the book “The Lord of the Rings” by Tolkien and the series “Game of Thrones” based on the books “A Song of Ice and Fire” by J. Martina. Moreover, “Game of Thrones” amazed me to such an extent... that I simply cannot put it into words. To what extent I don’t like TV series... somehow they are “theatrical” artificial or something. But this series is just like "The Lord of the Rings", in terms of the scale of filming and in each individual episode, and then the seasons.....

Таккого масштаба, качества я просто не ожидала. все продумано до мелочей. Даже актеров набирали по всему миру, в каждый новый сезон. Один наш Колокольников чего стоит в одном из сезонов...
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11 Feb 2024, 11:00

But damn, if they made a series of this scale based on the works of our writers, then Game of Thrones would seem like a children’s fairy tale... For example, Alexey Pekhov... first he wrote alone, then with his wife. and when she or he got a girlfriend))) damn people live... one husband and two wives))).. but that’s not about that now...

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так вот у него очень много серий.. к примеру "Искра и ветер"
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или "Синее пламя"
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и много других серий книг... то мир бы был просто поражен и это буквально.. Про того Дж Мартина с его "Песней льда", не то что забыли бы.. но тем не менее...

Или наш Вадим Панов с его циклом "Тайный город"
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и стимпанковой серией "Герметокон"
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Виталий Зыков с его серией "Дорога домой"
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и это я только начала перечисялть авторов

Unread post by **Canis91** » 11 Feb 2024, 11:01

And from the mine came "Storm in a Teacup" and about Fyodor Sumkin and Shmyga. But that’s my opinion. The markers are different...

Unread post by **Canis91** » 11 Feb 2024, 11:05

"The Secret City" is good somewhere up to book 6.
Early Belyanin is not bad. Well, Oleg Divov, especially his "Dog Master".
" That’s it, now I’ll wet you, and Karma will drag you away... "(C)

11 Feb 2024, 11:14

Canis91: 11 Feb 2024, 11:05 " That’s it, now I’ll wet you, and Karma will drag you away... "(C)

damn.. no need get me wet.. at least now.. I haven’t posted all my Stories on the forum yet((((

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Unread post by **elena.p** » 08 Mar 2024, 06:26

and I like the series 12 monkeys

Unread post by **Richard Sorge** » 09 Mar 2024, 10:40

[img] I also remembered from the films: source code, dissenting opinion

Unread post by **Hair shirt** » 09 Mar 2024, 21:10

Since school, I still really loved science fiction and read it mainly in the form of chapters with continuations in the magazines "Chemistry and Life" and some others that my father subscribed to.
I also came across something from Soviet science fiction in periodicals called Roman -newspaper. Which my father also prescribed.
All this fiction was exclusively Soviet, and everywhere all these works were based on the fact that something like that happened to some of ours or scientists. Or some kind of research institute workers.

There was practically no fiction about events outside the USSR. And in the eighties and nineties, all this diversity fell on us. At one time, I even took Moshkov’s entire library on the topic of science fiction from the Internet using some kind of clever program. And there was a ton of everything there.
And then on the long winter evenings I tried to find at least something interesting. But alas. All the works are somehow stilted. Either they are written as if they were a carbon copy of some other work that you have already seen.

Or this work is somehow wretched and more suitable for reading by primary school readers. Yes, and it is usually written according to some patterns - the beginning, the denouement, and so on.
For two or three chapters, the structure of the world in question is described at the beginning for some reason. And the world is described supposedly as something different, but for some reason the people in it are from our world. With the same troubles.

Well, in general, it’s kind of boring, all this science fiction that I’ve watched a lot. Apparently it’s true that to write fiction you have to be a little crazy. Or maybe eat some mushrooms so that you can see everything that you describe later with your own eyes, so to speak. And not to suck everything out of thin air.
But nevertheless, at first I did not lose hope, and took any work from Moshkov’s library, and began reading right from the middle. And all the time I ended up with some kind of wretched and boring crap. People tried to write about something that never happened and that they themselves had never seen. And I must admit, they did it badly.

And all because they apparently lacked imagination. That is, they essentially had to come up with a whole world that had its own logic and its own model. And this whole world had to be invented with its inhabitants, economy, society, technology, transport, weapons, household things.
Take even the same Kin dza dza. It would seem like bullshit and not a movie. At one time I generally considered it some kind of hack and spoof.
But in fact, it’s very worthy from the point of view of fiction.

By the way, at the moment the only thing I consider truly worthy , then these are both Predators, the second, third and fourth Alien, the second Terminator and the first Matrix.
But these are films. And of course I would like to read something on this topic. And there’s just nothing to read.
I think that there’s simply no demand for these things. People find all this boring to read.
And in general, who reads these books now?

Although recently I have come across projects on the Internet that usually describe some kind of a victim who ended up during the Mongol-Tatar yoke. Or in ancient Greece during the time of Alexander the Great, or during the Roman Empire. And the essence of this project is to interest the reader, where he is given a quarter of the book to read, and then to finish reading what happened next, he has to pay a little money.
From the point of view of description, this writing is quite easy - there is no need to pull anything out of thin air about the Roman Empire - everything is more or less known. You just need to revive the actions of certain characters, put some dialogue into their mouths, and think over the general outline of the book. So to speak, outline a table of contents for the chapters, and what will be described in each chapter. And then patiently fill these cells with letters.

For a self-respecting potential reader, all this is also quite sad.