When there are no children, it doesn’t matter at all who earns how much. If I work and can buy everything for myself, then my partner’s earnings are not important to me.
And if I consider this person as a husband, then his income should be enough for 3 people to live on him - husband, wife and child. There is already so much stress on maternity leave, if you still think about how to make money, it’s absolutely tough. In addition, not all women can go to work after birth; the child may have allergies due to which the child will not be accepted into kindergarten
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When there are no children, it doesn’t matter at all who earns how much. If I work and can buy everything for myself, then my partner’s earnings are not important to me.
And if I consider this person as a husband, then his income should be enough for 3 people to live on him - husband, wife and child. There is already so much stress on maternity leave, if you still think about how to make money, it’s absolutely tough. In addition, not all women can go to work after birth; the child may have allergies due to which the child will not be accepted into kindergarten
Weird question. It’s different for everyone. Some people also have a common budget, some have their own, and some have a man’s income in common, and a woman’s only hers.
If we take a family, then my opinion is that the budget is general and planning expenses. That is, they collected all the income, sat down and distributed the expenses for the month. They put it aside where it needed to be and that’s it. In other cases, it seems there will be constant disputes about who spent how much, who received how much, who owes how much. And in general, it will be difficult to achieve any improvements.
Weird question. It’s different for everyone. Some people also have a common budget, some have their own, and some have a man’s income in common, and a woman’s only hers.
If we take a family, then my opinion is that the budget is general and planning expenses. That is, they collected all the income, sat down and distributed the expenses for the month. They put it aside where it needed to be and that’s it. In other cases, it seems there will be constant disputes about who spent how much, who received how much, who owes how much. And in general, it will be difficult to achieve any improvements.
[quote=AlexTDV post_id=217256 time=1687333376 user_id=5510] A man must earn money, but a woman wants to work for herself, let her not work if she doesn’t want to) [/quote]
Why not the other way around: a woman earns money, but a man - as he wants?😏 For what reason should there be inequality here?
Sofiya23: ↑21 Jun 2023, 00:43
When there are no children, it doesn’t matter at all who earns how much. If I work and can buy everything for myself, then my partner’s earnings are not important to me.
And if I consider this person as a husband, then his income should be enough for 3 people to live on him - husband, wife and child. There is already so much stress on maternity leave, if you still think about how to make money, it’s absolutely tough. In addition, not all women can go to work after birth; the child may have allergies due to which the child will not be accepted into kindergarten
I am in the USA there are relatives (they left there a long time ago), so after the birth of the child, the wife already went to work 2-3 months later, she is a qualified health worker, she earns very well. And he’s like that, he’s making small noises
And nothing, everyone is happy
[quote=Sofiya23 post_id=217257 time=1687333436 user_id=19032] When there are no children, it doesn’t matter at all who earns how much. If I work and can buy everything for myself, then my partner’s earnings are not important to me.
And if I consider this person as a husband, then his income should be enough for 3 people to live on him - husband, wife and child. There is already so much stress on maternity leave, if you still think about how to make money, it’s absolutely tough. In addition, not all women can go to work after birth; the child may have allergies due to which the child will not be accepted into kindergarten [/quote]
I am in the USA there are relatives (they left there a long time ago), so after the birth of the child, the wife already went to work 2-3 months later, she is a qualified health worker, she earns very well. And he’s like that, he’s making small noises ;) And nothing, everyone is happy☝️
Rasrom, in the USA, this is normal, because . maternity leave is only 3 months, they pay nannies to look after children and often they are teenagers. But it seems we are talking about Russia. At 3 months no one will give their child to a stranger and a child under 1.5 years old preferably breast milk, which only the mother has and she should be nearby. It’s not for nothing that we have maternity leave until the age of 3. If you don’t want to raise a child and take care of him, you shouldn’t give birth at all.
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[ref=#bf0000]Rasrom[/ref], in the USA, this is normal, because . maternity leave is only 3 months, they pay nannies to look after children and often they are teenagers. But it seems we are talking about Russia. At 3 months no one will give their child to a stranger and a child under 1.5 years old preferably breast milk, which only the mother has and she should be nearby. It’s not for nothing that we have maternity leave until the age of 3. If you don’t want to raise a child and take care of him, you shouldn’t give birth at all.
It’s normal when the husband’s percentage is 30 more.
We have about that. But the wife gives it to others for free. If she decides to sell her clothes, then she will earn 10 times more than me.
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It’s normal when the husband’s percentage is 30 more. We have about that. But the wife gives it to others for free. If she decides to sell her clothes, then she will earn 10 times more than me.
[quote=Rasrom post_id=217265 time=1687334664 user_id=7703] [quote=AlexTDV post_id=217256 time=1687333376 user_id= 5510] A man must earn money, but a woman wants to work for herself; if she doesn’t want to, let her not work) [/quote]
Why not the other way around: a woman earns, and a man - as he wants?😏 For what reason should there be inequality? [/quote] It’s your business, you don’t have to work at all and sit on your wife’s neck, if that’s what suits you)
Rasrom: ↑21 Jun 2023, 01:07
I have relatives in the USA (they left there a long time ago), so my wife is there after the birth of the child in 2-3 months
so in the USA maternity leave is only 12 weeks and even then it is unpaid. Just kind of relax.
[quote=Rasrom post_id=217266 time=1687334827 user_id=7703] I have relatives in the USA (they left there a long time ago), so my wife is there after the birth of the child in 2-3 months [/quote]so in the USA maternity leave is only 12 weeks and even then it is unpaid. Just kind of relax.
so it depends on the couple how they agree and how it will be. In fact, there are all sorts of them. For example, I make good money, my MF is more, but I never cared about it, maybe because I don’t have children yet, I didn’t even think about it. And I don’t depend on him financially
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so it depends on the couple how they agree and how it will be. In fact, there are all sorts of them. For example, I make good money, my MF is more, but I never cared about it, maybe because I don’t have children yet, I didn’t even think about it. And I don’t depend on him financially
Yes, I think it’s all individual) There was a time I sat on my wife’s neck for almost a year Now it’s been 8 years since she’s worked, my She has a card and I don’t limit her spending)
Yes, I think it’s all individual) There was a time I sat on my wife’s neck for almost a year😃 Now it’s been 8 years since she’s worked, my She has a card and I don’t limit her spending)
Those who have the opportunity earn money. If a woman earns more than the man she loves, [url=viewtopic.php?t=11592]what to do[/ url], leave your job or your man? :unknown:
[quote=Scromnaja post_id=217754 time=1687422179 user_id=15251] [quote=Rasrom post_id=217265 time=1687334664 user_id= 7703] For what reason should there be inequality? [/quote]
Find yourself a husband and you will have equality))) [/quote]
Once again: what rational arguments can there be in favor of the fact that the man should bring the main income to the family?
[quote=Rasrom post_id=217759 time=1687422715 user_id=7703] [quote=Scromnaja post_id=217754 time=1687422179 user_id= 15251] [quote=Rasrom post_id=217265 time =1687334664 user_id=7703] For what reason should there be inequality? [/quote]
Find yourself a husband and you will have equality))) n[/quote]
Once again: what rational arguments can there be in favor of the fact that the man should bring the main income to the family? [/quote]
A woman bears, gives birth and raises children. Take care of home comfort.
Rasrom, specify what family composition you are considering. Are there children? How many are there? What age are they?
If there are no children, then it doesn’t matter who earns how much. Only if there are children, then more often financial responsibility falls on the man; if for some reason the woman earns more, quit work and take care of the children and everyday life, let the wife be the one who provides for the family.
Sent after 5 minutes 5 seconds: Rasrom, tell me, what contribution will you make to everyday life and care, raising children, if your wife also works?
[ref=#bf0000]Rasrom[/ref], specify what family composition you are considering. Are there children? How many are there? What age are they?
If there are no children, then it doesn’t matter who earns how much. Only if there are children, then more often financial responsibility falls on the man; if for some reason the woman earns more, quit work and take care of the children and everyday life, let the wife be the one who provides for the family.
[size=85][color=green]Sent after 5 minutes 5 seconds:[/color][/size] [ref=#bf0000]Rasrom[/ref], tell me, what contribution will you make to everyday life and care, raising children, if your wife also works?
Scromnaja: ↑22 Jun 2023, 01:22
Find yourself a husband and you will have equality)))
Once again: how rational There may be arguments in favor of the fact that it is the man who should bring the main income to the family?
A woman bears, gives birth to and raises children. Take care of home comfort.
A man, of course, should also take care of children and home, on an equal basis with a woman
Everything in half: and upbringing children, and household. But making money is ALSO in half
Find yourself a husband and you will have equality))) [/quote]
Once again: how rational There may be arguments in favor of the fact that it is the man who should bring the main income to the family? [/quote]
A woman bears, gives birth to and raises children. Take care of home comfort. [/quote]
A man, of course, should also take care of children and home, on an equal basis with a woman Everything in half: and upbringing children, and household. But making money is ALSO in half☝️
Sofiya23: ↑22 Jun 2023, 01:43Rasrom, specify the composition of the family you are considering. Are there children? How many are there? What age are they?
If there are no children, then it doesn’t matter who earns how much. Only if there are children, then more often financial responsibility falls on the man; if for some reason the woman earns more, quit work and take care of the children and everyday life, let the wife be the one who provides for the family.
Sent after 5 minutes 5 seconds: Rasrom, tell me, what contribution will you make to everyday life and care, raising children, if your wife also works?
Already wrote: both work, both generate income. And whoever has it more doesn’t play a role, it’s just who is lucky with work.
And everything connected with the home and children is divided in half.
[quote=Sofiya23 post_id=217764 time=1687423383 user_id=19032] [ref=#bf0000]Rasrom[/ref], specify the composition of the family you are considering. Are there children? How many are there? What age are they?
If there are no children, then it doesn’t matter who earns how much. Only if there are children, then more often financial responsibility falls on the man; if for some reason the woman earns more, quit work and take care of the children and everyday life, let the wife be the one who provides for the family.
[size=85][color=green]Sent after 5 minutes 5 seconds:[/color][/size] [ref=#bf0000]Rasrom[/ref], tell me, what contribution will you make to everyday life and care, raising children, if your wife also works? [/quote]
Already wrote: both work, both generate income. And whoever has it more doesn’t play a role, it’s just who is lucky with work. And everything connected with the home and children is divided in half.
[quote=Rasrom post_id=217777 time=1687424381 user_id=7703] Everything in half: both raising children and housekeeping. But making money is ALSO half and half [/quote]
Andrey Petrov, the gypsies are not the best example to follow. They consider it normal to give birth at 12-14 years old and that the husband goes to the left when he wants and it is considered normal to beat his wife
[ref=#bf0000]Andrey Petrov[/ref], the gypsies are not the best example to follow. They consider it normal to give birth at 12-14 years old and that the husband goes to the left when he wants and it is considered normal to beat his wife
[quote=Scromnaja post_id=217783 time=1687424731 user_id=15251] [quote=Rasrom post_id=217777 time=1687424381 user_id= 7703] Everything in half: both raising children and housekeeping. But making money is ALSO half and half [/quote]
Is this like that in your family? [/quote]
This is an ideal that I consider necessary to strive for, but an ideal is an ideal because in reality it is unattainable.
[quote="Hooligan Carrie" post_id=217794 time=1687425541 user_id=18654] On the issue of equal earnings [url=https://postimages.org /] [img]https://i.postimg.cc/dVqCQPbw/3678e857fc8097db03915b00a7a280e2.jpg[/img][/url] [/quote]
А по какой причине нельзя половину препятствий с левой стороны перенести на правую?
[quote=Rasrom post_id=217797 time=1687425759 user_id=7703] Why can’t half the obstacles on the left side be moved to the right? [/quote] Not everyone on the right is ready. On an ongoing basis, and not just "help".
Do you think women will mind if a man takes an active part in raising children and takes on half the household chores? It’s just that men often understand equality to mean that a woman earns the same amount. There are children on it, everyday life, and he is holding the sofa with his back)))
What are you ready to do in everyday life?
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Hooligan Carrie: ↑22 Jun 2023, 02:34
Not everyone on the right is ready
Not only are they not ready, but many do not know how to do anything.
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[quote=Rasrom post_id=217791 time=1687425236 user_id=7703]This is the ideal[/quote]
Do you think women will mind if a man takes an active part in raising children and takes on half the household chores? It’s just that men often understand equality to mean that a woman earns the same amount. There are children on it, everyday life, and he is holding the sofa with his back))) What are you ready to do in everyday life?
[size=85][color=green]Sent after 1 minute 6 seconds:[/color][/size] [quote="Hooligan Carrie" post_id=217804 time=1687426492 user_id=18654] Not everyone on the right is ready [/quote]
Not only are they not ready, but many do not know how to do anything.
Sofiya23: ↑21 Jun 2023, 00:43
When there are no children, it doesn’t matter who earns how much. If I work and can buy everything for myself, then my partner’s earnings are not important to me.
And if I consider this person as a husband, then his income should be enough for 3 people to live on him - husband, wife and child. There is already so much stress on maternity leave, if you still think about how to make money, it’s absolutely tough. In addition, not all women can go to work after birth; the child may have allergies due to which the child will not be accepted into kindergarten
I am in the USA there are relatives (they left there a long time ago), so after the birth of the child, the wife already went to work 2-3 months later, she is a qualified health worker, she earns very well. And he’s like that, he’s making small noises
And nothing, everyone is happy
apparently this woman is satisfied with this situation.
Each couple will have their own opinion about the budget in the family and they will be right.. as they say "in every the hut has its own rattles."
[quote=Rasrom post_id=217266 time=1687334827 user_id=7703] [quote=Sofiya23 post_id=217257 time=1687333436 user_id= 19032] When there are no children, it doesn’t matter who earns how much. If I work and can buy everything for myself, then my partner’s earnings are not important to me.
And if I consider this person as a husband, then his income should be enough for 3 people to live on him - husband, wife and child. There is already so much stress on maternity leave, if you still think about how to make money, it’s absolutely tough. In addition, not all women can go to work after birth; the child may have allergies due to which the child will not be accepted into kindergarten [/quote]
I am in the USA there are relatives (they left there a long time ago), so after the birth of the child, the wife already went to work 2-3 months later, she is a qualified health worker, she earns very well. And he’s like that, he’s making small noises ;) And nothing, everyone is happy☝️ [/quote]apparently this woman is satisfied with this situation. Each couple will have their own opinion about the budget in the family and they will be right.. as they say "in every the hut has its own rattles."
[ref=#bf0000]◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊[/ref], and you in Would you like to work on maternity leave? Not taking care of the child? Who will you give the child to?
[quote="Hooligan Carrie" post_id=217794 time=1687425541 user_id=18654] On the issue of equal earnings [url=https://postimages.org /] [img]https://i.postimg.cc/dVqCQPbw/3678e857fc8097db03915b00a7a280e2.jpg[/img][/url] [/quote]тут еще не хватает детей грудных на руках у женщин.. упущение серьёзное, я считаю..
[size=85][color=green]Отправлено спустя 2 минуты :[/color][/size] [quote=Sofiya23 post_id=217813 time=1687427216 user_id=19032] [ref=#bf0000]◊_НеБо[_На_]ЛаДоНи_◊[/ref], а вы в декрете хотели бы работать? Не заботиться о ребёнке? Кому отдадите ребёнка? [/quote]я уже все свои декреты отсидела и детей вырастила.
тут еще не хватает детей грудных на руках у женщин.. упущение серьёзное, я считаю..
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Sofiya23: ↑22 Jun 2023, 02:46◊_НеБо[_На_]ЛаДоНи_◊, а вы в декрете хотели бы работать? Не заботиться о ребёнке? Кому отдадите ребёнка?
я уже все свои декреты отсидела и детей вырастила.
Время, когда маленький ребенок нуждается ТОЛЬКО в матери, и более ни в ком - это год-полтора от силы. Считая беременность - это года два, когда женщина "вылетает" из социальной жизни по физиологическим причинам.
Не такой уж большой срок, чтобы говорить "а вот из-за рождения детей она не может работать и зарабатывать!"
[quote="Hooligan Carrie" post_id=217804 time=1687426492 user_id=18654] [quote=Rasrom post_id= 217797 time=1687425759 user_id=7703] Why can’t half of the obstacles on the left side be moved to the right? [/quote] Not everyone on the right , ready. On an ongoing basis, and not just "help". [/quote]
Well, that is. as usual, it’s a matter of upbringing, environmental influences and attitudes about "gender roles" embedded in the head.
[size= 85][color=green]Sent after 3 minutes 15 seconds:[/color] [/size] [quote="◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊" post_id=217814 time=1687427352 user_id=5795] [quote="Hooligan Carrie" post_id=217794 time=1687425541 user_id=18654] On the issue of equals earnings [url=https://postimages.org/] [img]https://i.postimg.cc/dVqCQPbw/3678e857fc8097db03915b00a7a280e2.jpg[/img][/url] [/quote]тут еще не хватает детей грудных на руках у женщин.. упущение серьёзное, я считаю..
[size=85][color=green]Отправлено спустя 2 минуты :[/color][/size] [quote=Sofiya23 post_id=217813 time=1687427216 user_id=19032] [ref=#bf0000]◊_НеБо[_На_]ЛаДоНи_◊[/ref], а вы в декрете хотели бы работать? Не заботиться о ребёнке? Кому отдадите ребёнка? [/quote]я уже все свои декреты отсидела и детей вырастила. [/quote]
Время, когда маленький ребенок нуждается ТОЛЬКО в матери, и более ни в ком - это год-полтора от силы. Считая беременность - это года два, когда женщина "вылетает" из социальной жизни по физиологическим причинам. Не такой уж большой срок, чтобы говорить "а вот из-за рождения детей она не может работать и зарабатывать!"
Rasrom: ↑22 Jun 2023, 02:22
Why can’t half the obstacles on the left side be moved to the right?
Not everyone on the right is ready. On an ongoing basis, and not just "help".
Well, that is. as usual, it’s a matter of upbringing, environmental influences and attitudes about "gender roles" put into the head.
these are not stereotypes. This is nature. Do you know how to give birth? Breastfeeding?.. when you learn, then you will talk about equality and gender stereotypes.
[quote=Rasrom post_id=217816 time=1687427386 user_id=7703] [quote="Hooligan Carrie" post_id= 217804 time=1687426492 user_id=18654] [quote =Rasrom post_id=217797 time=1687425759 user_id=7703] Why can’t half the obstacles on the left side be moved to the right? [/quote] Not everyone on the right is ready. On an ongoing basis, and not just "help". [/quote]
Well, that is. as usual, it’s a matter of upbringing, environmental influences and attitudes about "gender roles" put into the head. [/quote]these are not stereotypes. This is nature. Do you know how to give birth? Breastfeeding?.. when you learn, then you will talk about equality and gender stereotypes.
So we are talking about a vulnerable period, and this is not 1.5 years. A lot more. Frequent sick leave for children under 5 years old, if the wife is a hired worker, then the employer rarely likes this, many of whose friends were asked or forced to leave work because of this. When school starts for the first 3 grades, the child studies for 4 hours. If there is no one who sits on sick leave and takes the child (grandmothers) from school, then the wife is vulnerable not for 2 years, but much longer.
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So we are talking about a vulnerable period, and this is not 1.5 years. A lot more. Frequent sick leave for children under 5 years old, if the wife is a hired worker, then the employer rarely likes this, many of whose friends were asked or forced to leave work because of this. When school starts for the first 3 grades, the child studies for 4 hours. If there is no one who sits on sick leave and takes the child (grandmothers) from school, then the wife is vulnerable not for 2 years, but much longer.
Hooligan Carrie: ↑22 Jun 2023, 02:34
Not everyone on the right is ready. On an ongoing basis, and not just "help".
Well, that is. as usual, it’s a matter of upbringing, environmental influences and attitudes about "gender roles" put into the head.
these are not stereotypes. This is nature. Do you know how to give birth? Breastfeeding?.. when you learn, then you will talk about equality and gender stereotypes.
There are a lot of examples when women earn money and make a career, and Having children is not a hindrance for them.
For example, the President of the European Commission Ursula von Leyen has SEVEN children. This is an extreme example, yes. But there are many others, simpler ones.
In some countries, the period of maternity leave is several months. With a developed system of preschool institutions, what is the problem?
Not everyone on the right is ready. On an ongoing basis, and not just "help". [/quote]
Well, that is. as usual, it’s a matter of upbringing, environmental influences and attitudes about "gender roles" put into the head. [/quote]these are not stereotypes. This is nature. Do you know how to give birth? Breastfeeding?.. when you learn, then you will talk about equality and gender stereotypes. [/quote]
There are a lot of examples when women earn money and make a career, and Having children is not a hindrance for them. For example, the President of the European Commission Ursula von Leyen has SEVEN children. This is an extreme example, yes. But there are many others, simpler ones. In some countries, the period of maternity leave is several months. With a developed system of preschool institutions, what is the problem?
Well, that is. as usual, it’s a matter of upbringing, environmental influences and attitudes about "gender roles" put into the head.
these are not stereotypes. This is nature. Do you know how to give birth? Breastfeeding?.. when you learn, then you will talk about equality and gender stereotypes.
There are a lot of examples when women earn money and make a career, and Having children is not a hindrance for them.
For example, the President of the European Commission Ursula von Leyen has SEVEN children. This is an extreme example, yes. But there are many others, simpler ones.
In some countries, the period of maternity leave is several months. With a developed system of preschool institutions, what is the problem?
there is no problem. Find yourself a life partner for whom this arrangement will be acceptable.
Well, that is. as usual, it’s a matter of upbringing, environmental influences and attitudes about "gender roles" put into the head. [/quote]these are not stereotypes. This is nature. Do you know how to give birth? Breastfeeding?.. when you learn, then you will talk about equality and gender stereotypes. [/quote]
There are a lot of examples when women earn money and make a career, and Having children is not a hindrance for them. For example, the President of the European Commission Ursula von Leyen has SEVEN children. This is an extreme example, yes. But there are many others, simpler ones. In some countries, the period of maternity leave is several months. With a developed system of preschool institutions, what is the problem? [/quote]there is no problem. Find yourself a life partner for whom this arrangement will be acceptable.
Rasrom: ↑22 Jun 2023, 02:22
Why can’t half of the obstacles on the left side be moved to the right?
Not everyone on the right , ready. On an ongoing basis, and not just "help".
I don’t understand such men. Women sometimes work even more, and then also earn extra money as servants to a body that only minds its own business. It’s very sad that women do this.
On topic:
I think it’s all individual. That is, it seems to me that couples should somehow naturally determine how they feel more comfortable and comfortable. I know couples where the wife stays at home and the husband works, or vice versa. Everyone has their own abilities, needs and circumstances. You can’t just say to a woman or a man: we’ll cut everything in half, period. IMHO this is stupid. The main thing is that there is a desire to be with the person, harmony, mutual understanding and (very important!) dedication on both sides for the sake of your partner.
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[quote="Hooligan Carrie" post_id=217804 time=1687426492 user_id=18654] [quote=Rasrom post_id= 217797 time=1687425759 user_id=7703] Why can’t half of the obstacles on the left side be moved to the right? [/quote] Not everyone on the right , ready. On an ongoing basis, and not just "help". [/quote]
I don’t understand such men. Women sometimes work even more, and then also earn extra money as servants to a body that only minds its own business. It’s very sad that women do this.
On topic: I think it’s all individual. That is, it seems to me that couples should somehow naturally determine how they feel more comfortable and comfortable. I know couples where the wife stays at home and the husband works, or vice versa. Everyone has their own abilities, needs and circumstances. You can’t just say to a woman or a man: we’ll cut everything in half, period. IMHO this is stupid. The main thing is that there is a desire to be with the person, harmony, mutual understanding and (very important!) dedication on both sides for the sake of your partner.
Poor losers are so funny in fact, why strive for something, achieve goals - they lie on the couch with a beer and start looking for the guilty, then a woman should earn money from them on an equal basis, then the state cannot give them the dream job, the belly is growing - there is no way go to the gym because of work, etc., etc., the only thing they succeed in is idleness, finding excuses and people to blame)) Since ancient times, a man has been a breadwinner, it was, is and should be and will never take into account his woman who earned how much) Many men are completely crazy, all that remains is to put on a skirt and tie a bow))
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Poor losers are so funny in fact, why strive for something, achieve goals - they lie on the couch with a beer and start looking for the guilty, then a woman should earn money from them on an equal basis, then the state cannot give them the dream job, the belly is growing - there is no way go to the gym because of work, etc., etc., the only thing they succeed in is idleness, finding excuses and people to blame)) Since ancient times, a man has been a breadwinner, it was, is and should be and will never take into account his woman who earned how much) Many men are completely crazy, all that remains is to put on a skirt and tie a bow))
AlexTDV: ↑22 Jun 2023, 03:28
Poor losers are so funny, in fact, why strive for something, achieve goals - they lie on the couch with a beer and start looking for the guilty, then a woman should earn money from them on an equal basis, then the state cannot give them the job of their dreams, their belly is growing - there is no opportunity to go to the gym because of work, etc., etc., the only thing they succeed in is idleness, finding excuses and people to blame)) Since ancient times, a man has been a breadwinner, it was, is and should be and will never take into account his woman who how much did I earn) Many men got completely crazy, all that was left was to put on a skirt and tie a bow))
It’s all blah-blah-blah and woof-woof-woof .
"Since ancient times"? So it’s the 21st century! Maybe we should live in accordance with modern ideas, and not the ancient house-building?! That’s one.
And two - not everyone is lucky in life, many have either health problems, or age, or something else. Striving for lofty goals is wonderful, but you also need to stay on the sinful green, and not soar in the clouds and catch cranes in the sky
[quote=AlexTDV post_id=217840 time=1687429706 user_id=5510] Poor losers are so funny, in fact, why strive for something, achieve goals - they lie on the couch with a beer and start looking for the guilty, then a woman should earn money from them on an equal basis, then the state cannot give them the job of their dreams, their belly is growing - there is no opportunity to go to the gym because of work, etc., etc., the only thing they succeed in is idleness, finding excuses and people to blame)) Since ancient times, a man has been a breadwinner, it was, is and should be and will never take into account his woman who how much did I earn) Many men got completely crazy, all that was left was to put on a skirt and tie a bow)) [/quote]
It’s all blah-blah-blah and woof-woof-woof . "Since ancient times"? So it’s the 21st century! Maybe we should live in accordance with modern ideas, and not the ancient house-building?! That’s one. And two - not everyone is lucky in life, many have either health problems, or age, or something else. Striving for lofty goals is wonderful, but you also need to stay on the sinful green, and not soar in the clouds and catch cranes in the sky☝️
AlexTDV: ↑22 Jun 2023, 03:28
Poor losers are so funny, in fact, why strive for something, achieve goals - they lie on the couch with a beer and start looking for the guilty, then a woman should earn money from them on an equal basis, then the state cannot give them the job of their dreams, their belly is growing - there is no opportunity to go to the gym because of work, etc., etc., the only thing they succeed in is idleness, finding excuses and people to blame)) Since ancient times, a man has been a breadwinner, it was, is and should be and will never take into account his woman who how much did I earn) Many men got completely crazy, all that was left was to put on a skirt and tie a bow))
They are infantile. They tore it off from my mother’s skirt and attached it to my wife’s skirt.
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[quote=AlexTDV post_id=217840 time=1687429706 user_id=5510] Poor losers are so funny, in fact, why strive for something, achieve goals - they lie on the couch with a beer and start looking for the guilty, then a woman should earn money from them on an equal basis, then the state cannot give them the job of their dreams, their belly is growing - there is no opportunity to go to the gym because of work, etc., etc., the only thing they succeed in is idleness, finding excuses and people to blame)) Since ancient times, a man has been a breadwinner, it was, is and should be and will never take into account his woman who how much did I earn) Many men got completely crazy, all that was left was to put on a skirt and tie a bow)) [/quote]
They are infantile. They tore it off from my mother’s skirt and attached it to my wife’s skirt.
Rasrom, the family structure has not changed much in Russia.
You really love the way of life in Western countries, maybe it’s worth moving there. The ladies there won’t even allow you to pay for themselves in the cafe)) I think you’ll like it
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[ref=#bf0000]Rasrom[/ref], the family structure has not changed much in Russia. You really love the way of life in Western countries, maybe it’s worth moving there. The ladies there won’t even allow you to pay for themselves in the cafe)) I think you’ll like it
Sofiya23: ↑22 Jun 2023, 04:36Rasrom, in Russia has not changed much family way of life.
You really love the way of life in Western countries, maybe it’s worth moving there. The ladies there won’t even allow you to pay for themselves in a cafe)) I think you’ll like it
Well, Russia is still more reminiscent of Western countries than Iran or Turkmenistan
Or?...
[quote=Sofiya23 post_id=217869 time=1687433785 user_id=19032] [ref=#bf0000]Rasrom[/ref], in Russia has not changed much family way of life. You really love the way of life in Western countries, maybe it’s worth moving there. The ladies there won’t even allow you to pay for themselves in a cafe)) I think you’ll like it [/quote]
Well, Russia is still more reminiscent of Western countries than Iran or Turkmenistan ;) Or?...
Rasrom, we do not resemble Western countries, where there are a lot genders, nor such as Iran. Russia is closer in family life to China, Saudi Arabia and Turkey)
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[ref=#bf0000]Rasrom[/ref], we do not resemble Western countries, where there are a lot genders, nor such as Iran. Russia is closer in family life to China, Saudi Arabia and Turkey)
AlexTDV: ↑22 Jun 2023, 03:28
Poor losers are so funny in fact, why strive for something, achieve goals - they lie on the couch with a beer and begin to look for the guilty, then a woman should earn money from them on an equal basis, then the state will not give them the job of their dreams maybe the belly is growing - there is no way to go to the gym because of work, etc., etc., the only thing they succeed in is idleness, finding excuses and people to blame)) Since ancient times, a man has been a breadwinner, this is how it was, is and should be and will never be considered with his woman, who earned how much) Many men got completely crazy, all that was left was to put on a skirt and tie a bow))
It’s all blah blah blah and woof -woof-woof.
"Since ancient times"? So it’s the 21st century! Maybe we should live in accordance with modern ideas, and not the ancient house-building?! That’s one.
And two - not everyone is lucky in life, many have either health problems, or age, or something else. Striving for lofty goals is wonderful, but you also need to stay on earth, and not soar in the clouds and catch cranes in the sky
as I said - they are masters at coming up with excuses)) I give 99 percent that you have a job - don’t hit someone who is lying down, your goal is to stay until 6 so that no one brains you I didn’t pick up, and Friday is just around the corner, at exactly 18.00 you will go home, you will not stay to work to somehow get up, you will not go to the gym to lift iron, because it is difficult and for this you need to have balls, you just go home, mom prepared food there, eat, grab a beer and play dotka or CS go)) for food, enough clothes and thank God, I didn’t live richly, there’s nothing to start with))
[quote=Rasrom post_id=217864 time=1687433090 user_id=7703] [quote=AlexTDV post_id=217840 time=1687429706 user_id= 5510] Poor losers are so funny in fact, why strive for something, achieve goals - they lie on the couch with a beer and begin to look for the guilty, then a woman should earn money from them on an equal basis, then the state will not give them the job of their dreams maybe the belly is growing - there is no way to go to the gym because of work, etc., etc., the only thing they succeed in is idleness, finding excuses and people to blame)) Since ancient times, a man has been a breadwinner, this is how it was, is and should be and will never be considered with his woman, who earned how much) Many men got completely crazy, all that was left was to put on a skirt and tie a bow)) [/quote]
It’s all blah blah blah and woof -woof-woof. "Since ancient times"? So it’s the 21st century! Maybe we should live in accordance with modern ideas, and not the ancient house-building?! That’s one. And two - not everyone is lucky in life, many have either health problems, or age, or something else. Striving for lofty goals is wonderful, but you also need to stay on earth, and not soar in the clouds and catch cranes in the sky☝️ [/quote] as I said - they are masters at coming up with excuses)) I give 99 percent that you have a job - don’t hit someone who is lying down, your goal is to stay until 6 so that no one brains you I didn’t pick up, and Friday is just around the corner, at exactly 18.00 you will go home, you will not stay to work to somehow get up, you will not go to the gym to lift iron, because it is difficult and for this you need to have balls, you just go home, mom prepared food there, eat, grab a beer and play dotka or CS go)) for food, enough clothes and thank God, I didn’t live richly, there’s nothing to start with))
Sofiya23: ↑22 Jun 2023, 05:20Rasrom, we do not resemble any Western countries where there are a lot of genders, not like Iran. Russia is closer in family life to China, Saudi Arabia and Turkey)
AlexTDV: ↑22 Jun 2023, 03:28
Rogue losers are so funny in fact, why strive for something, achieve goals - lie with a beer on the couch and start looking for the guilty, then the woman should earn money from them on an equal basis, then the state cannot give them the job of their dreams, their belly is growing - there is no way to go to the gym because of work, etc., etc., the only thing they succeed in is this is idleness, finding excuses and culprits)) Since ancient times, a man has been a breadwinner, this is how it was, is and should be and will never take into account how much he earned with his woman) Many men have become completely crazy, all that remains is to put on a skirt and tie a bow))
It’s all blah-blah-blah and woof-woof-woof.
"Since ancient times"? So it’s the 21st century! Maybe we should live in accordance with modern ideas, and not the ancient house-building?! That’s one.
And two - not everyone is lucky in life, many have either health problems, or age, or something else. Striving for lofty goals is wonderful, but you also need to stay on earth, and not soar in the clouds and catch cranes in the sky
as I said - they are masters at coming up with excuses)) I give 99 percent that you have a job - don’t hit someone who is lying down, your goal is to stay until 6 so that no one brains you I didn’t pick up, and Friday is just around the corner, at exactly 18.00 you will go home, you will not stay to work to somehow get up, you will not go to the gym to lift iron, because it is difficult and for this you need to have balls, you just go home, mom cooked food there, eat, grab a beer and play dotka or CS go)) for food, enough clothes and thank God, I didn’t live richly, there’s nothing to start with))
Health is no longer something to rise and rise
Yes, and I want to sleep too much
[quote=Sofiya23 post_id=217878 time=1687436436 user_id=19032] [ref=#bf0000]Rasrom[/ref], we do not resemble any Western countries where there are a lot of genders, not like Iran. Russia is closer in family life to China, Saudi Arabia and Turkey) [/quote]
To Saudi Arabia???? Fucking🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
[size=85][color=green]Sent after 2 minutes 11 seconds:[/color] [/size] [quote=AlexTDV post_id=217881 time=1687437512 user_id=5510] [quote=Rasrom post_id=217864 time=1687433090 user_id=7703] [quote=AlexTDV post_id=217840 time=1687429706 user_id=5510] Rogue losers are so funny in fact, why strive for something, achieve goals - lie with a beer on the couch and start looking for the guilty, then the woman should earn money from them on an equal basis, then the state cannot give them the job of their dreams, their belly is growing - there is no way to go to the gym because of work, etc., etc., the only thing they succeed in is this is idleness, finding excuses and culprits)) Since ancient times, a man has been a breadwinner, this is how it was, is and should be and will never take into account how much he earned with his woman) Many men have become completely crazy, all that remains is to put on a skirt and tie a bow)) [/quote]
It’s all blah-blah-blah and woof-woof-woof.
"Since ancient times"? So it’s the 21st century! Maybe we should live in accordance with modern ideas, and not the ancient house-building?! That’s one. And two - not everyone is lucky in life, many have either health problems, or age, or something else. Striving for lofty goals is wonderful, but you also need to stay on earth, and not soar in the clouds and catch cranes in the sky☝️ [/quote] as I said - they are masters at coming up with excuses)) I give 99 percent that you have a job - don’t hit someone who is lying down, your goal is to stay until 6 so that no one brains you I didn’t pick up, and Friday is just around the corner, at exactly 18.00 you will go home, you will not stay to work to somehow get up, you will not go to the gym to lift iron, because it is difficult and for this you need to have balls, you just go home, mom cooked food there, eat, grab a beer and play dotka or CS go)) for food, enough clothes and thank God, I didn’t live richly, there’s nothing to start with)) [/quote]
Health is no longer something to rise and rise☝️☝️☝️ Yes, and I want to sleep too much 🤣🤣🤣
Rasrom, in terms of the financial part, yes, very similar . Now women can work there, get an education, but they can also sit at home if they want and no one will say a word to them. The husband is the breadwinner there, he provides for the family.
And if you mean those who strictly demand that the wife not work, then we have a lot of them)))
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[ref=#bf0000]Rasrom[/ref], in terms of the financial part, yes, very similar . Now women can work there, get an education, but they can also sit at home if they want and no one will say a word to them. The husband is the breadwinner there, he provides for the family.
And if you mean those who strictly demand that the wife not work, then we have a lot of them)))
In our family, until the youngest was 7 years old, only I earned money, and when the children grew up, my wife also decided to work, and now we earn money together. The budget is common, the wife keeps part of the money from her salary for all sorts of her wishes. And who should earn more, I think it doesn’t matter if everyone in the family is happy with everything
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In our family, until the youngest was 7 years old, only I earned money, and when the children grew up, my wife also decided to work, and now we earn money together. The budget is common, the wife keeps part of the money from her salary for all sorts of her wishes. And who should earn more, I think it doesn’t matter if everyone in the family is happy with everything
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