About money.

[rasaroam]

Who in a couple should earn more - the man or the woman? And why?

ZY. My opinion: the ideal is 50/50

[AlexTDV]

A man must earn money, but a woman wants to work for herself; if she doesn’t want to, let her not work)

[Sufia]

When there are no children, it doesn’t matter at all who earns how much. If I work and can buy everything for myself, then my partner’s earnings are not important to me.

And if I consider this person as a husband, then his income should be enough for 3 people to live on him - husband, wife and child. There is already so much stress on maternity leave, if you still think about how to make money, it’s absolutely tough. In addition, not all women can go to work after birth; the child may have allergies due to which the child will not be accepted into kindergarten

[bark]

Weird question. It’s different for everyone. Some people also have a common budget, some have their own, and some have a man’s income in common, and a woman’s only hers.

If we take a family, then my opinion is that the budget is general and planning expenses. That is, they collected all the income, sat down and distributed the expenses for the month. They put it aside where it needed to be and that’s it. In other cases, it seems there will be constant disputes about who spent how much, who received how much, who owes how much. And in general, it will be difficult to achieve any improvements.

[rasaroam]

A man must earn money, but a woman wants to work for herself, let her not work if she doesn’t want to)

Why not the other way around: a woman earns money, but a man - as he wants? For what reason should there be inequality here?

[rasaroam]

When there are no children, it doesn’t matter at all who earns how much. If I work and can buy everything for myself, then my partner’s earnings are not important to me.

And if I consider this person as a husband, then his income should be enough for 3 people to live on him - husband, wife and child. There is already so much stress on maternity leave, if you still think about how to make money, it’s absolutely tough. In addition, not all women can go to work after birth; the child may have allergies due to which the child will not be accepted into kindergarten

I am in the USA there are relatives (they left there a long time ago), so after the birth of the child, the wife already went to work 2-3 months later, she is a qualified health worker, she earns very well. And he’s like that, he’s making small noises
And nothing, everyone is happy

[Sufia]

Rasrom, in the USA, this is normal, because . maternity leave is only 3 months, they pay nannies to look after children and often they are teenagers. But it seems we are talking about Russia. At 3 months no one will give their child to a stranger and a child under 1.5 years old preferably breast milk, which only the mother has and she should be nearby. It’s not for nothing that we have maternity leave until the age of 3. If you don’t want to raise a child and take care of him, you shouldn’t give birth at all.

[The Dark Lord]

It’s normal when the husband’s percentage is 30 more.
We have about that. But the wife gives it to others for free. If she decides to sell her clothes, then she will earn 10 times more than me.

[AlexTDV]

A man must earn money, but a woman wants to work for herself; if she doesn’t want to, let her not work)

Why not the other way around: a woman earns, and a man - as he wants?
For what reason should there be inequality?

It’s your business, you don’t have to work at all and sit on your wife’s neck, if that’s what suits you)

[bark]

I have relatives in the USA (they left there a long time ago), so my wife is there after the birth of the child in 2-3 months

so in the USA maternity leave is only 12 weeks and even then it is unpaid. Just kind of relax.

[Tamerlane]

Every family is different.
My wife and I have a larger one. Then I am more. We don’t count the total budget as to who earned how much.

[Lisa24]

so it depends on the couple how they agree and how it will be. In fact, there are all sorts of them. For example, I make good money, my MF is more, but I never cared about it, maybe because I don’t have children yet, I didn’t even think about it. And I don’t depend on him financially

[niqk]

Basically, it doesn’t matter at all. The main thing is: do people know how to manage money wisely? Do they have enough income
to live on?

[chains]

Yes, I think it’s all individual) There was a time I sat on my wife’s neck for almost a year Now it’s been 8 years since she’s worked, my She has a card and I don’t limit her spending)

[aryamari]

Those who have the opportunity earn money. If a woman earns more than the man she loves, what to do, leave your job or your man?

[Scromnaga]

For what reason should there be inequality here?

Find yourself a husband and you will have equality)))

[rasaroam]

For what reason should there be inequality?

Find yourself a husband and you will have equality)))

Once again: what rational arguments can there be in favor of the fact that the man should bring the main income to the family?

[Scromnaga]

For what reason should there be inequality?

Find yourself a husband and you will have equality))) n

Once again: what rational arguments can there be in favor of the fact that the man should bring the main income to the family?

A woman bears, gives birth and raises children. Take care of home comfort.

[Sufia]

Rasrom, specify what family composition you are considering. Are there children? How many are there? What age are they?

If there are no children, then it doesn’t matter who earns how much. Only if there are children, then more often financial responsibility falls on the man; if for some reason the woman earns more, quit work and take care of the children and everyday life, let the wife be the one who provides for the family.

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Rasrom, tell me, what contribution will you make to everyday life and care, raising children, if your wife also works?

[rasaroam]

Find yourself a husband and you will have equality)))

Once again: how rational There may be arguments in favor of the fact that it is the man who should bring the main income to the family?

A woman bears, gives birth to and raises children. Take care of home comfort.

A man, of course, should also take care of children and home, on an equal basis with a woman
Everything in half: and upbringing children, and household. But making money is ALSO in half

[Andrey Petrov]

Ask the gypsies about the division of labor in the family! A reliable option developed over thousands of years!

[rasaroam]

Rasrom, specify the composition of the family you are considering. Are there children? How many are there? What age are they?

If there are no children, then it doesn’t matter who earns how much. Only if there are children, then more often financial responsibility falls on the man; if for some reason the woman earns more, quit work and take care of the children and everyday life, let the wife be the one who provides for the family.

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Rasrom, tell me, what contribution will you make to everyday life and care, raising children, if your wife also works?

Already wrote: both work, both generate income. And whoever has it more doesn’t play a role, it’s just who is lucky with work.
And everything connected with the home and children is divided in half.

[Scromnaga]

Everything in half: both raising children and housekeeping. But making money is ALSO half and half

Is this like that in your family?

[Sufia]

Andrey Petrov, the gypsies are not the best example to follow. They consider it normal to give birth at 12-14 years old and that the husband goes to the left when he wants and it is considered normal to beat his wife

[Andrey Petrov]

Sofiya23, Sofushka! The question here is about making money! Don’t confuse it with scrambled eggs!

[rasaroam]

Everything in half: both raising children and housekeeping. But making money is ALSO half and half

Is this like that in your family?

This is an ideal that I consider necessary to strive for, but an ideal is an ideal because in reality it is unattainable.

[Bully Carrie]

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[rasaroam]

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А по какой причине нельзя половину препятствий с левой стороны перенести на правую?

[Bully Carrie]

Why can’t half the obstacles on the left side be moved to the right?

Not everyone on the right is ready. On an ongoing basis, and not just "help".

[Scromnaga]

This is the ideal

Do you think women will mind if a man takes an active part in raising children and takes on half the household chores? It’s just that men often understand equality to mean that a woman earns the same amount. There are children on it, everyday life, and he is holding the sofa with his back)))
What are you ready to do in everyday life?

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Not everyone on the right is ready

Not only are they not ready, but many do not know how to do anything.

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

When there are no children, it doesn’t matter who earns how much. If I work and can buy everything for myself, then my partner’s earnings are not important to me.

And if I consider this person as a husband, then his income should be enough for 3 people to live on him - husband, wife and child. There is already so much stress on maternity leave, if you still think about how to make money, it’s absolutely tough. In addition, not all women can go to work after birth; the child may have allergies due to which the child will not be accepted into kindergarten

I am in the USA there are relatives (they left there a long time ago), so after the birth of the child, the wife already went to work 2-3 months later, she is a qualified health worker, she earns very well. And he’s like that, he’s making small noises
And nothing, everyone is happy

apparently this woman is satisfied with this situation.
Each couple will have their own opinion about the budget in the family and they will be right.. as they say "in every the hut has its own rattles."

[Sufia]

◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊, and you in Would you like to work on maternity leave? Not taking care of the child? Who will you give the child to?

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

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тут еще не хватает детей грудных на руках у женщин.. упущение серьёзное, я считаю..

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◊_НеБо[_На_]ЛаДоНи_◊, а вы в декрете хотели бы работать? Не заботиться о ребёнке? Кому отдадите ребёнка?

я уже все свои декреты отсидела и детей вырастила.

[rasaroam]

Why can’t half of the obstacles on the left side be moved to the right?

Not everyone on the right , ready. On an ongoing basis, and not just "help".

Well, that is. as usual, it’s a matter of upbringing, environmental influences and attitudes about "gender roles" embedded in the head.

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тут еще не хватает детей грудных на руках у женщин.. упущение серьёзное, я считаю..

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◊_НеБо[_На_]ЛаДоНи_◊, а вы в декрете хотели бы работать? Не заботиться о ребёнке? Кому отдадите ребёнка?

я уже все свои декреты отсидела и детей вырастила.

Время, когда маленький ребенок нуждается ТОЛЬКО в матери, и более ни в ком - это год-полтора от силы. Считая беременность - это года два, когда женщина "вылетает" из социальной жизни по физиологическим причинам.
Не такой уж большой срок, чтобы говорить "а вот из-за рождения детей она не может работать и зарабатывать!"

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

Why can’t half the obstacles on the left side be moved to the right?

Not everyone on the right is ready. On an ongoing basis, and not just "help".

Well, that is. as usual, it’s a matter of upbringing, environmental influences and attitudes about "gender roles" put into the head.

these are not stereotypes. This is nature. Do you know how to give birth? Breastfeeding?.. when you learn, then you will talk about equality and gender stereotypes.

[Sufia]

So we are talking about a vulnerable period, and this is not 1.5 years. A lot more. Frequent sick leave for children under 5 years old, if the wife is a hired worker, then the employer rarely likes this, many of whose friends were asked or forced to leave work because of this. When school starts for the first 3 grades, the child studies for 4 hours. If there is no one who sits on sick leave and takes the child (grandmothers) from school, then the wife is vulnerable not for 2 years, but much longer.

[rasaroam]

Not everyone on the right is ready. On an ongoing basis, and not just "help".

Well, that is. as usual, it’s a matter of upbringing, environmental influences and attitudes about "gender roles" put into the head.

these are not stereotypes. This is nature. Do you know how to give birth? Breastfeeding?.. when you learn, then you will talk about equality and gender stereotypes.

There are a lot of examples when women earn money and make a career, and Having children is not a hindrance for them.
For example, the President of the European Commission Ursula von Leyen has SEVEN children. This is an extreme example, yes. But there are many others, simpler ones.
In some countries, the period of maternity leave is several months. With a developed system of preschool institutions, what is the problem?

[Sufia]

Rasrom, give an example of our women and in the absence grandmothers and nannies.

Everyone I know who works after 1.5 years, the children are completely taken care of by their grandmothers, while mom and dad work.

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

Well, that is. as usual, it’s a matter of upbringing, environmental influences and attitudes about "gender roles" put into the head.

these are not stereotypes. This is nature. Do you know how to give birth? Breastfeeding?.. when you learn, then you will talk about equality and gender stereotypes.

There are a lot of examples when women earn money and make a career, and Having children is not a hindrance for them.
For example, the President of the European Commission Ursula von Leyen has SEVEN children. This is an extreme example, yes. But there are many others, simpler ones.
In some countries, the period of maternity leave is several months. With a developed system of preschool institutions, what is the problem?

there is no problem. Find yourself a life partner for whom this arrangement will be acceptable.

[WazzzzzzzUp]

Why can’t half of the obstacles on the left side be moved to the right?

Not everyone on the right , ready. On an ongoing basis, and not just "help".

I don’t understand such men. Women sometimes work even more, and then also earn extra money as servants to a body that only minds its own business. It’s very sad that women do this.

On topic:
I think it’s all individual. That is, it seems to me that couples should somehow naturally determine how they feel more comfortable and comfortable. I know couples where the wife stays at home and the husband works, or vice versa. Everyone has their own abilities, needs and circumstances. You can’t just say to a woman or a man: we’ll cut everything in half, period. IMHO this is stupid. The main thing is that there is a desire to be with the person, harmony, mutual understanding and (very important!) dedication on both sides for the sake of your partner.

[AlexTDV]

Poor losers are so funny in fact, why strive for something, achieve goals - they lie on the couch with a beer and start looking for the guilty, then a woman should earn money from them on an equal basis, then the state cannot give them the dream job, the belly is growing - there is no way go to the gym because of work, etc., etc., the only thing they succeed in is idleness, finding excuses and people to blame)) Since ancient times, a man has been a breadwinner, it was, is and should be and will never take into account his woman who earned how much) Many men are completely crazy, all that remains is to put on a skirt and tie a bow))

[rasaroam]

Poor losers are so funny, in fact, why strive for something, achieve goals - they lie on the couch with a beer and start looking for the guilty, then a woman should earn money from them on an equal basis, then the state cannot give them the job of their dreams, their belly is growing - there is no opportunity to go to the gym because of work, etc., etc., the only thing they succeed in is idleness, finding excuses and people to blame)) Since ancient times, a man has been a breadwinner, it was, is and should be and will never take into account his woman who how much did I earn) Many men got completely crazy, all that was left was to put on a skirt and tie a bow))

It’s all blah-blah-blah and woof-woof-woof .
"Since ancient times"? So it’s the 21st century! Maybe we should live in accordance with modern ideas, and not the ancient house-building?! That’s one.
And two - not everyone is lucky in life, many have either health problems, or age, or something else. Striving for lofty goals is wonderful, but you also need to stay on the sinful green, and not soar in the clouds and catch cranes in the sky

[Scromnaga]

Poor losers are so funny, in fact, why strive for something, achieve goals - they lie on the couch with a beer and start looking for the guilty, then a woman should earn money from them on an equal basis, then the state cannot give them the job of their dreams, their belly is growing - there is no opportunity to go to the gym because of work, etc., etc., the only thing they succeed in is idleness, finding excuses and people to blame)) Since ancient times, a man has been a breadwinner, it was, is and should be and will never take into account his woman who how much did I earn) Many men got completely crazy, all that was left was to put on a skirt and tie a bow))

They are infantile. They tore it off from my mother’s skirt and attached it to my wife’s skirt.

[Sufia]

Rasrom, the family structure has not changed much in Russia.
You really love the way of life in Western countries, maybe it’s worth moving there. The ladies there won’t even allow you to pay for themselves in the cafe)) I think you’ll like it

[rasaroam]

Rasrom, in Russia has not changed much family way of life.
You really love the way of life in Western countries, maybe it’s worth moving there. The ladies there won’t even allow you to pay for themselves in a cafe)) I think you’ll like it

Well, Russia is still more reminiscent of Western countries than Iran or Turkmenistan
Or?...

[Sufia]

Rasrom, we do not resemble Western countries, where there are a lot genders, nor such as Iran. Russia is closer in family life to China, Saudi Arabia and Turkey)

[AlexTDV]

Poor losers are so funny in fact, why strive for something, achieve goals - they lie on the couch with a beer and begin to look for the guilty, then a woman should earn money from them on an equal basis, then the state will not give them the job of their dreams maybe the belly is growing - there is no way to go to the gym because of work, etc., etc., the only thing they succeed in is idleness, finding excuses and people to blame)) Since ancient times, a man has been a breadwinner, this is how it was, is and should be and will never be considered with his woman, who earned how much) Many men got completely crazy, all that was left was to put on a skirt and tie a bow))

It’s all blah blah blah and woof -woof-woof.
"Since ancient times"? So it’s the 21st century! Maybe we should live in accordance with modern ideas, and not the ancient house-building?! That’s one.
And two - not everyone is lucky in life, many have either health problems, or age, or something else. Striving for lofty goals is wonderful, but you also need to stay on earth, and not soar in the clouds and catch cranes in the sky

as I said - they are masters at coming up with excuses)) I give 99 percent that you have a job - don’t hit someone who is lying down, your goal is to stay until 6 so that no one brains you I didn’t pick up, and Friday is just around the corner, at exactly 18.00 you will go home, you will not stay to work to somehow get up, you will not go to the gym to lift iron, because it is difficult and for this you need to have balls, you just go home, mom prepared food there, eat, grab a beer and play dotka or CS go)) for food, enough clothes and thank God, I didn’t live richly, there’s nothing to start with))

[rasaroam]

Rasrom, we do not resemble any Western countries where there are a lot of genders, not like Iran. Russia is closer in family life to China, Saudi Arabia and Turkey)

To Saudi Arabia???? Fucking

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Rogue losers are so funny in fact, why strive for something, achieve goals - lie with a beer on the couch and start looking for the guilty, then the woman should earn money from them on an equal basis, then the state cannot give them the job of their dreams, their belly is growing - there is no way to go to the gym because of work, etc., etc., the only thing they succeed in is this is idleness, finding excuses and culprits)) Since ancient times, a man has been a breadwinner, this is how it was, is and should be and will never take into account how much he earned with his woman) Many men have become completely crazy, all that remains is to put on a skirt and tie a bow))

It’s all blah-blah-blah and woof-woof-woof.
"Since ancient times"? So it’s the 21st century! Maybe we should live in accordance with modern ideas, and not the ancient house-building?! That’s one.
And two - not everyone is lucky in life, many have either health problems, or age, or something else. Striving for lofty goals is wonderful, but you also need to stay on earth, and not soar in the clouds and catch cranes in the sky

as I said - they are masters at coming up with excuses)) I give 99 percent that you have a job - don’t hit someone who is lying down, your goal is to stay until 6 so that no one brains you I didn’t pick up, and Friday is just around the corner, at exactly 18.00 you will go home, you will not stay to work to somehow get up, you will not go to the gym to lift iron, because it is difficult and for this you need to have balls, you just go home, mom cooked food there, eat, grab a beer and play dotka or CS go)) for food, enough clothes and thank God, I didn’t live richly, there’s nothing to start with))

Health is no longer something to rise and rise
Yes, and I want to sleep too much

[Sufia]

Rasrom, in terms of the financial part, yes, very similar . Now women can work there, get an education, but they can also sit at home if they want and no one will say a word to them. The husband is the breadwinner there, he provides for the family.

And if you mean those who strictly demand that the wife not work, then we have a lot of them)))

[Evgen84]

In our family, until the youngest was 7 years old, only I earned money, and when the children grew up, my wife also decided to work, and now we earn money together. The budget is common, the wife keeps part of the money from her salary for all sorts of her wishes. And who should earn more, I think it doesn’t matter if everyone in the family is happy with everything