Set yourself up or deceive others, which is easier?

[Bully Carrie]

The topic was inspired by a conversation in PM. Sorry, it was long.
Look. When you enter into a new relationship, you are euphoric and wearing rose-colored glasses. They can take you lukewarm and hang you as much noodles as you want. And even cheat for money and other goodies. And people use it often.
Question: have you often found yourself in such situations? How did you react? In the style of "samdurak/samaduravinovata" or was it really painful? Do girls or guys use this more often?
And another question: did you yourself take advantage of this moment, when you could get everything from a person who was in love with you, and even cheat you into everything, what else?
And in which role were you more comfortable? When you can easily deceive someone to the point of meanness, or know that you are an easy victim, BUT absolutely honest (honest) and pure (pure)?

[Ogest]

My life is boring and I haven’t been taken advantage of like that.

[Bully Carrie]

I haven’t been used like that.

Maybe you’re just very vigilant? And a face like James Bond?))

[Ogest]

Maybe you are just very vigilant? And a face like James Bond?))

Maybe I’m just useless.

[A meow]

Hooligan Carrie, "To expose yourself or to deceive others, which is easier?" - the question is incorrect. Of course it’s easier to substitute! I have some life experience, so I don’t set myself up, but try to manipulate.

[Xenophon]

When I was young, it was not customary to breed in this way for the simple reason that there was nothing to take from us naive people. And later she defended her profession. Well, quite later, experience and, to some extent, wisdom finally appeared. He himself only cheated for sex. But he bred beautifully and intelligently.

[Bully Carrie]

Maybe I’m just useless.

This simply cannot happen IMHO.

[Alice]

Can I answer in a private message?

[Bully Carrie]

Of course it’s easier to substitute!

Not at all!
There are people who can smell a freebie a mile away and cheat their partner out of sex.
Have you seen the movie "Tindler-swindler" by any chance?

[Bully Carrie]

Can I answer in a personal message?

Of course!

[helgg]

It happened that friends tried to promote it with money. And in general, I’m not against it, but if within reasonable limits and against the backdrop of stormy horizontal relationships. But sometimes they started asking for a “loan” when they barely knew each other. I’m sympathetic, but... no. "Chairs in the morning, money in the evening."

And, well, the wife is manipulating and taking full advantage of it! Let .. where to go.

[Serg_A]

Of course it’s easier to substitute

Well, you mean that in order to become a victim of divorce, you don’t need a lot of intelligence.

[Bully Carrie]

but if within reasonable limits

And where do these reasonable limits have a limit?

"Chairs in the morning, money in the evening.

Chairs, in your case, what are they?

[A meow]

Well, you mean that in order to become a victim of divorce, you don’t need a lot of intelligence.

Of course! But to turn everything the way you want, you have to try

[Bully Carrie]

Of course! But to turn everything the way you want, you have to try

I understood your answer. When asking about "easier" - I meant "what is more comfortable for you personally?"

[Xenophon]

Of course! But to turn everything the way you want, you have to try

I would even say - manage!

[A meow]

I understood your answer. When asking about "easier" - I meant "how do you personally feel more comfortable?"

Nooo... The point here is not comfort, but in skill. Not everyone will be able to turn the situation to their advantage. Although... sometimes it’s even beneficial to pretend to be a defenseless fool. Again under YOUR control!

[Serg_A]

But sometimes they started asking for a "loan" when they barely knew each other

Oh, a familiar story!

[Bully Carrie]

The point here is not comfort, but skill.

But my question was specifically about comfort. And who knows what - that’s for another front door)))

[A meow]

But my question was specifically about comfort. And who knows what - that’s a different matter)))

Then I feel more comfortable managing the situation. Even if I pretend to be weak and defenseless!

[Bully Carrie]

Then it’s more comfortable for me to manage the situation

That is, to cheat. Ok, the vote has been counted))

[Serg_A]

I have just such a story. I met one girl, she is beautiful, passionate and quite young, 16 years younger than me. She is quite demanding in terms of pleasure, but I also really like it. He greedily attacks me with kisses. Well, I don’t remain in debt.)
But recently she wrote to me in a telegram that she needs a few hundred thousand rubles. Well, at least not dollars. But she really needs it. No, she doesn’t ask directly... In general, she puts pressure on pity and conscience. I certainly sympathize with her...

[Serg_A]

But my question was specifically about comfort. And who knows what - that’s a different matter)))

Then I feel more comfortable managing the situation. Even if I pretend to be weak and defenseless!

Well, that is, you say that you have a critical situation, and you urgently need to repay the debt, otherwise soon Will the collectors come?

[helgg]

Where do these reasonable limits have a limit?

Do you need numbers? I didn’t think about it. I’m not a greedy person in general, I just don’t like it when they try to ride me for free. In our area, just having a nice dinner in a restaurant that claims romance and good cuisine costs a couple of hundred dollars or more. This is if with wine. I give strippers two or three hundred a night when I’m in downtown. This, you understand, is for "just to look." Those. if there is some kind of mutual sympathy with a girl, some kind of intimate communication, then I don’t mind pleasing her with pleasant gifts on occasion.

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Chairs, in your case, what are they?

Sex, of course.

If without sex, then.. it’s not that I’m not really interested - I also like to chat, ride and hang out somewhere together. But I won’t spend a lot of money either.

[Alexssss]

I was always honest, and no one took advantage of me. Everything is banal. Restaurant, flowers, bed. He met with his mistresses for long periods of time, from several months to five years. The latter wanted to get married. I had to break up. I wasn’t ready to leave my family

[AlexTDV]

Never happened)) there were no scams, neither scammers nor gypsies had any such cases)

[Hammer]

If you really fall in love, then of course you are setting yourself up. And they can extract money from you in different ways and under different pretexts.

[A meow]

Well, that is, you say that you have a critical situation, and you urgently need to repay the debt, otherwise the collectors will come soon..?

Why- Isn’t that so rude? Thank God, I have no debts to banks! It’s just nice to pretend to be weak and defenseless with a good person, let him take care of you... And you bring everything to money You have to earn money differently!!!

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

The topic was inspired by a private conversation. Sorry, it was long.
Look. When you enter into a new relationship, you are euphoric and wearing rose-colored glasses. They can take you lukewarm and hang you as much noodles as you want. And even cheat for money and other goodies. And people use it often.
Question: have you often found yourself in such situations? How did you react? In the style of "samdurak/samaduravinovata" or was it really painful? Do girls or guys use this more often?
And another question: did you yourself take advantage of this moment, when you could get everything from a person who was in love with you, and even cheat you into everything, what else?
And in which role were you more comfortable? When you can easily deceive someone to the point of meanness, or know that you are an easy victim, BUT absolutely honest (honest) and pure (pure)?

not I, not me, was not scammed. I married for love, not for money, which no one had, and in vain, as it turned out later)) there are a lot of swindlers in SZ, but you can immediately see them as soon as they start writing. Maybe if I were some kind of star, they would try to scam me, but no, everything is boring and not interesting)

[Bully Carrie]

it’s nice to pretend to be weak and defenseless, let him take care..

pretend - so what? Let him worry about what? What is your dividend in this case?)

[Bully Carrie]

no, everything is boring and not interesting)

Probably because You are already smart and don’t get fooled. And that’s good
What about deceiving someone yourself? Would you be ok? Would it come in?

[SeRg !$!]

Hooligan Carrie,
for often always I’m telling it like it really is, what about myself, what about feelings for the interlocutor ... I fell for the bait oooh yes it was the way I reacted and just smiled, there are techniques by which people who are hanging noodles are immediately revealed and I already play with such people, it’s funny to watch how they dodge) ...
I don’t cheat on women, that’s not for me! (not from the word I can’t, but from the word this is not an activity for a man)

[Serg_A]

Well, that is, you say that you have a critical situation, and you urgently need to repay the debt, otherwise the collectors will come soon..?

Why is it so rude? Thank God, I have no debts to banks! It’s just nice to pretend to be weak and defenseless with a good person, let him take care of you... And you bring everything to money You have to earn money differently!!!

Well, you yourself said that you like to manipulate, so I asked what you can do

U I, thank God, have no debts to banks

You don’t have to have them, the main thing is to say that you have them. Admit it, we are all our own here. )))

[Serg_A]

, there are techniques by which people who are hanging noodles are immediately revealed

What kind of techniques? Would you mind sharing?

[SeRg !$!]

you need to listen carefully to your interlocutor, yes she is beautiful, smart and all so straight ah and you have already swam and you are ready to unsheath your weapon BUT believe me they feel it so control yourself, listen carefully to the nonsense they say in their fictional images, the answers often do not match because they cannot maintain a fictitious image for a long time... with rare exceptions you will come across a "real actress" who has entered into the image of her fictitious self... With such instances the game is even more interesting.

Girls are not be offended, you are the best among us, and I mean fidgety

[Serg_A]

you need to listen carefully to your interlocutor, yes she is beautiful, smart and all that, oh and you have already swam and you are ready to unsheath your gun BUT, believe me, they feel it so control yourself, listen carefully lies are uttered in their fictitious images; the answers often do not match because they cannot keep the fictitious image for a long time... with rare exceptions, you will come across a "real actress" who has entered the image of her fictitious self... With such instances the game is even more interesting.

Girls, don’t be offended, you are the best among us, and I mean the fidgety one

I, by the way, don’t hate anyone I’m angry, I’m not offended. She has her own program, I have mine. Maybe it’s my own fault, I have a very rustic face, when I walk through the market, all the gypsies are my . ..

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

but no, everything is boring and not interesting)

Probably because you are already smart and don’t get fooled. And that’s good
What about deceiving someone yourself? Would you be ok? Would it work?

no, it wouldn’t work.
As for the photos, it happened a couple of times. wrote and these people clearly were not interested in the communication itself, but only photographs of an intimate nature were important. I got caught only once, at the very beginning, at the dawn of my stay on such forums, then it seemed to me that this communication was sincere, but it turned out that it was not... I am glad that the photos from my side were innocent, without a face and there were few of them.

[Bully Carrie]

As for photos, it happened a couple of times.

I think everyone had it , what can there be

[Bully Carrie]

all my gypsies

mmmm....the phrase sounds ambiguous

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

There were a couple of times about the photos.

I think everyone has had this, so why not

well.. it’s offensive, at least that I fell for it.

[Alexssss]

There were a couple of times about the photos.

I think everyone had it, so why not

As for the photo, I don’t see anything wrong. This is an anonymous forum. The only thing is not to run into an idiot. I sent one a photo of my ex-girlfriend (without a face, respectively. He responded to me with this photo on his computer and his penis in sperm)))) Made me laugh. Is there really not enough quality porn on the Internet?

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

There were a couple of times about photos.

I think everyone had it, so why not

As for the photo, no I see nothing bad. This is an anonymous forum. The only thing is not to run into an idiot. I sent one a photo of my ex-girlfriend (without a face, respectively. He responded to me with this photo on his computer and his penis in sperm)))) Made me laugh. Is there really not enough on the net The bad thing about quality porn

is that he blabbed a lot of things, deceived him, took pictures, and then disappeared into the fog.

[Bully Carrie]

He responded to me with this photo on his computer and his penis covered in sperm))))

OOO, yes, a classic. I have such photos with my photo and sperm - well, not that it’s overwhelming, but there are a bunch. No, this is not a scam. It’s nice for the person, and it’s nice for me.
Scam is when they get to the stage,
they ask for a photo and disappear completely.

[Bully Carrie]

took photos and then disappeared into the fog.

Yes.

[Pistonio]

There was no such thing, no divorce or anything like that

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

He answered me with this photo on his computer and his penis in sperm))))

LLC, yes, classic. I have such photos with my photo and sperm - well, not that it’s overwhelming, but there are a bunch. No, this is not a scam. It’s nice for the person, and it’s nice for me.
Divorce is when they are brought to the stage,
they ask for a photo and disappear completely.

yes, that’s right.

[Mitry]

Any relationship between people is selfish.
Even family ones.
If the participants in the relationship equally evaluate what they exchange, then everyone is happy.
But it is not profitable to be honest; many people try to get more than they give.
Everything gets worse if we are not talking about commodity-money relations, but something intangible, friendship, love, sex.
On the issue of the TC, the hardest thing is to maintain a balance and not to substitute or substitute. Have a clear conscience and do not lie, neither to yourself nor to others.

[Serg_A]

It happened that friends tried to promote it with money. And in general, I’m not against it, but if within reasonable limits and against the backdrop of stormy horizontal relationships. But sometimes they started asking for a “loan” when they barely knew each other. I’m sympathetic, but... no. "Chairs in the morning, money in the evening."

And, well, the wife is manipulating and taking full advantage of it! Let .. where to go.

Well, you’re just talking about sexual relationships on a commercial basis. I don’t think this is any kind of scam, everything is fair here.

[Alexander]

The topic was inspired by a private conversation. Sorry, it was long.
Look. When you enter into a new relationship, you are euphoric and wearing rose-colored glasses. They can take you lukewarm and hang you as much noodles as you want. And even cheat for money and other goodies. And people use it often.
Question: have you often found yourself in such situations? How did you react? In the style of "samdurak/samaduravinovata" or was it really painful? Do girls or guys use this more often?
And another question: did you yourself take advantage of this moment, when you could get everything from a person who was in love with you, and even cheat you into everything, what else?
And in which role were you more comfortable? When you can easily deceive someone to the point of meanness, or know that you are an easy victim, BUT absolutely honest (honest) and pure (pure)?

nAfter communicating on a dating site with a very young interesting girl, I met her over tea and coffee. And after 150 cognacs, she told me a simple everyday story, how after meeting her on the website, one very adult man invited her to visit his cottage. And he turned out to be very interesting, pleasant and smart. And when she came home from him the next day, she was surprised to find 10 thousand rubles in her purse. How noble he turned out to be. I confirmed his nobility, but I didn’t understand the “hint.” The next time I dropped her off at the cafe, after our visit to the sauna, before leaving, she said: “Baby, won’t you have a couple of grand for the cafe?” Of course I did, you have to pay for a young body. As I understand it, they don’t thank her often. Is this gratitude? Or divorce?

[The passage]

Is this gratitude? Or a divorce?

Consider yourself very lucky.