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Roads and fools are our eternal problem, and if the roads are getting better every year, then unfortunately there are no fewer fools.
This topic is not a continuation of the topic about women driving. We will not discuss gender here.
In this topic, I would like people to write about problems, or more precisely, problem drivers, without reference to gender. Not about specific ones, although examples from life are welcome, but about actions, behavior, traffic violations that are dangerous, that irritate and that enrage.
Yesterday, Hooligan wrote about the rule of three Ds. Give Way to the Fool. Well, I want driving on the roads to be based on a feeling of mutual respect, understanding and help.
When the driver of a huge truck flashes your right turn signal several times, letting you know that there are no oncoming cars and you can overtake, when you drive out of the yard onto the avenue and the driver slows down to let you through - letting you out when they let you in from the next lane... And they don’t do it for self-interest. And your mood immediately improves when they flash your emergency lights.
But not everyone respects other participants. This is what I propose to discuss. Perhaps someone will recognize themselves and think about it
The most dangerous, in my opinion, are those who go out to overtake, see an oncoming car, but do not return back to their place in order to let the oncoming traffic pass and continue the maneuver, but turn to ram. Perhaps they are rushing to hell. But they often kill others. Their passengers, those who were traveling in an oncoming car, but they themselves remain alive.
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the most dangerous are those who move from the right lane to the left and drive at the same speed as in the right...
these are those who constantly look in the mirror...
or chat on the phone..
those who forget about the existing function in the car as an indication of turns, which is turned on not by the power of thought, but with the help of an existing toggle switch.
and those who forget that the rule of the road is not a rule of etiquette.
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SeRg !$!: 15 Sep 2023, 01:33 the most dangerous are those who drive from the right lane to the left and drive at the same speed as in the right...
these are those who constantly look in the mirror. ..
or chatting on the phone...
those who forget about the existing function in the car as an indication of turns, which is turned on not by the power of thought, but using an existing toggle switch.
and those who forget that the rule of the road is not a rule of etiquette.
I completely agree with you..I’m going on a long trip on Sunday, also to Minsk..and I’m in bad weather I wasn’t driving.. It was a bit awkward)

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I believe that the 3 D rule must always be followed!!! And there is less respect on the roads, because there are too many show-offs, and the level of training in driving schools has dropped to a minimum!
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SeRg !$!: 15 Sep 2023, 01:33 those who forget about the existing function in the car as an indication of turns, which is turned on not by the power of thought, but using the existing toggle switch
Yes, about the turn signals. There are those who don’t include them at all. Apparently they think that other participants in the movement should guess, but those who turn them on when they directly begin to perform the maneuver are also dangerous.
SeRg !$!: 15 Sep 2023, 01:33 and those who forget that the rule of the road is not a rule etiquette.
If you drive exclusively according to the rules, then you will have to leave the yards only at night. Well, if you are driving in the wrong lane and they don’t let you in, according to the rules, then you can drive like this for many, many kilometers.

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Marinka,
regarding the passage of cars I adhere to the rule of the chess order: one passed one, missed one... I don’t know how where, but here (in St. Petersburg and the Leningrad region) I am glad of this trend that drivers are taking this into account... as well as freeing up the lane even in a traffic jam for cars with serenades.
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SeRg !$!: 15 Sep 2023, 01:52 Marinka ,
As for letting cars pass, I adhere to the rule of a chess order: one passed one, missed one... I don’t know how where, but here (in St. Petersburg and the Leningrad region) I’m glad of this trend that drivers take it into service... just as they free up a lane even in a traffic jam for cars with serenades.
In Germany there is such a rule. Unfortunately, we don’t have this in our traffic rules. This is already mutual respect.
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Marinka,
that’s why you need to adopt better and more logical...
Order begins with itself, and then the people will follow...
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The wheel comes off the truck, rolls down the road and hits a passenger car... it happened at the moment, at night. The driver of the car did not have time to react, the airbags deployed, the car was damaged... the passengers were in shock... they did not understand at all what happened .
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Marinka: 15 Sep 2023, 01:48
SeRg !$!: 15 Sep 2023, 01:33 those who forget about the existing function in the car as an indication of turns, which is turned on not by the power of thought, but using the existing toggle switch
Yes, about the turn signals. There are those who don’t include them at all. Apparently they think that other participants in the movement should guess, but those who turn them on when they directly begin to perform the maneuver are also dangerous.
SeRg !$!: 15 Sep 2023, 01:33 and those who forget that the rule of the road is not a rule etiquette.
If you drive exclusively according to the rules, then you will have to leave the yards only at night. Well, if you are driving in the wrong lane and they don’t let you in, according to the rules, then you can drive like this for many, many kilometers.

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I’ll take a ride around the city first..
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SeRg !$!: 15 Sep 2023, 01:56 Marinka ,
that’s why we need to adopt better and logical...
Order begins with itself, and then people will follow...
I have never seen anything like this here.
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Marinka,
well, so you not in St. Petersburg)
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SeRg !$!: 15 Sep 2023, 02:07 Marinka ,
well, you are not in St. Petersburg)
No and never will be. The climate in St. Petersburg is disgusting.
But this is not related to the topic, of course.
I also don’t like it when a driver driving behind overtakes and at the nearest intersection brakes to turn left, allowing oncoming traffic to pass, and brakes along with him, you wait for him to turn and think that he is a real asshole. Or at an unregulated intersection, those who need to turn left drive up to the very edge and block the entire view. as if these half meters can play a role for him, but they prevent him from turning right.
Well, I can’t help but remember those who stop the car wherever they want or park in a row and where two cars can easily park, it’s worth one.
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Marinka: 15 Sep 2023, 01:48
Да, насчет поворотников.
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Marinka: 15 Sep 2023, 01:25 But not everyone respects other participants. This is what I propose to discuss. Perhaps someone will recognize themselves and think about it
But it never occurred to sluts that posting naked photos on the Internet is an even greater evil than fools and boors on the roads ?
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Marinka: 15 Sep 2023, 01:54 In Germany there is such a rule. Unfortunately, we don’t have this in our traffic rules.
do German traffic rules have such a clause? I doubt
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uran: 15 Sep 2023, 06:59
Marinka: 15 Sep 2023, 01:54 In Germany there is such a rule. Unfortunately, we don’t have this in our traffic rules.
do German traffic rules have such a clause? I doubt it
Yes, there is.
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Marinka: 15 Sep 2023, 08:53
uran: 15 Sep 2023, 06:59
Marinka: 15 Sep 2023, 01:54 In Germany there is such a rule. Unfortunately, we don’t have this in our traffic rules.
do German traffic rules have such a clause? I doubt
Yes, there is.
can I have a link to this text?
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uran: 15 Sep 2023, 08:55
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uran: 15 Sep 2023, 06:59 Is there such a clause in German traffic regulations? I doubt
Yes, there is.
can I have a link to this text?
Find their traffic rules and read them. Just don’t look for it in translation. Download the original.
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Marinka: 15 Sep 2023, 08:57
uran: 15 Sep 2023, 08:55
Marinka: 15 Sep 2023, 08:53 Yes, there is.
can I have a link to this text?
Find their traffic rules and read them. Just don’t look for it in translation. Download the original.
I thought you would do this, as the one who stated that such a clause exists
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uran: 15 Sep 2023, 08:59
Marinka: 15 Sep 2023, 08:57
uran: 15 Sep 2023, 08:55
can I have a link to this text?
Find their traffic rules and read them. Just don’t look for it in translation. Download the original.
I thought you would do this, as the one who stated that such an item exists
I went to Germany by car several times before Covid, so I know I’m not going to look for anything. If you are interested, then look for it yourself.
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Marinka: 15 Sep 2023, 09:03 I went to Germany by car several times before Covid, so I know I’m not going to look for anything. If you are interested, then look for it yourself.
Well, how can that be? I mentioned that you know the German traffic rules, but you don’t want to tell me, at least tell me the rules section?
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uran: 15 Sep 2023, 09:05
Marinka: 15 Sep 2023, 09:03 I went to Germany by car several times before Covid, so I know I’m not going to look for anything. If you are interested, then look for it yourself.
Well, how can that be? I mentioned that you know the German traffic rules, but don’t want to tell me, at least tell me the rules section?
If you are interested in them, then read the whole thing. There are special companies that will give you a comparative description of the differences that exist between our traffic rules and the traffic rules of the country you are interested in. The service is not free. You can contact them. Or read for free and figure it out yourself.
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Marinka: 15 Sep 2023, 09:13
uran: 15 Sep 2023, 09:05
Marinka: 15 Sep 2023, 09:03 I went to Germany by car several times before Covid, so I know I’m not going to look for anything. If you are interested, then look for it yourself.
Well, how can that be? I mentioned that you know the German traffic rules, but don’t want to tell me, at least tell me the rules section?
If you are interested in them, then read the whole thing. There are special companies that will give you a comparative description of the differences that exist between our traffic rules and the traffic rules of the country you are interested in. The service is not free. You can contact them. Or read for free and figure it out for yourself.
okay, let’s go, I was hoping that you were an expert on traffic rules
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uran: 15 Sep 2023, 09:17
Marinka: 15 Sep 2023, 09:13
uran: 15 Sep 2023, 09:05
how can that be? I mentioned that you know the German traffic rules, but don’t want to tell me, at least tell me the rules section?
If you are interested in them, then read the whole thing. There are special companies that will give you a comparative description of the differences that exist between our traffic rules and the traffic rules of the country you are interested in. The service is not free. You can contact them. Or read for free and figure it out for yourself.
Okay, let’s go, I was hoping that you were an expert on traffic rules
No. I just had thoughts of moving to live in Germany. Then I became interested in moving to Canada. But I didn’t have time.
The roads are excellent and the drivers are disciplined. If you see an asshole, then with a 99% probability it is our compatriot.
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I believe that I know and understand the traffic rules of the Russian Federation very well, which is why I hoped to broaden my horizons about the features of the German traffic rules
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uran: 15 Sep 2023, 09:25 I believe that I know and understand the traffic rules very well
If you know well, then look for this point in the same place where we regulate the order driving through intersections.
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Marinka: 15 Sep 2023, 09:28
uran: 15 Sep 2023, 09:25 I believe that I know and understand the traffic rules very well
If you know well, then look for this point in the same place We regulate the order of passage through intersections.
I even wonder what could be different there (not like in the Russian Traffic Regulations), are priorities assigned differently?
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On the way to work, I have a 2-kilometer section where in the morning there’s not exactly a traffic jam, but the speed is 5-10 km/h, so they are too “smart”, drive this piece along the side of the road, and then try squeeze into the lane (the shoulder ends). I’ve never missed ANYTHING like this, but there are some good ones who let them through. But if no one let such people through, maybe the insolent people would think twice about it!
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uran: 15 Sep 2023, 09:35
Marinka: 15 Sep 2023, 09:28
uran: 15 Sep 2023, 09:25 I believe that I know and understand traffic rules very well
If you know well, then look for this The point is in the same place where we regulate the order of passage of intersections.
I even wonder what might be different there (not as in the Russian Traffic Regulations), priorities are assigned differently ?
Don’t guess. Open the rules and read them.
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The most dangerous thing is when someone asexual bought the rights and pushed for additional access. He confuses the pedals, doesn’t understand anything, and there are no traffic regulations written for this.
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In general, there is less outright rudeness on the roads in our area. There’s just one thing that’s not encouraging: in the 90s and 2000s, it was common practice to flash distant lights, warning of a gay ambush. Now this tradition, unfortunately, is gradually disappearing. On the contrary, the practice of ambushes is being revived. But I remember this - today I warned, tomorrow they will warn me.

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Marinka: 15 Sep 2023, 01:48 Yes, about the turn signals. There are those who don’t include them at all. Apparently they think that the rest of the traffic participants should guess
There was even a joke about this: BMW Concern presented especially for Russia a batch of cars that do not have turn signals in their design.
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Yes, there is.
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No longer relevant. Germany has banned the entry of cars with Russian license plates.
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Marinka: 15 Sep 2023, 01:25 Roads and fools are our eternal problem, and if the roads are getting better every year, then unfortunately there are no fewer fools.
This topic is not a continuation of the topic about women driving. We will not discuss gender here.
In this topic, I would like people to write about problems, or more precisely, problem drivers, without reference to gender. Not about specific ones, although examples from life are welcome, but about actions, behavior, traffic violations that are dangerous, that irritate and that enrage.
Yesterday, Hooligan wrote about the rule of three Ds. Give Way to the Fool. Well, I want driving on the roads to be based on a feeling of mutual respect, understanding and help.
When the driver of a huge truck flashes your right turn signal several times, letting you know that there are no oncoming cars and you can overtake, when you drive out of the yard onto the avenue and the driver slows down to let you through - letting you out when they let you in from the next lane... And they don’t do it for self-interest. And your mood immediately improves when they flash your emergency lights.
But not everyone respects other participants. This is what I propose to discuss. Perhaps someone will recognize themselves and think about it
The most dangerous, in my opinion, are those who go out to overtake, see an oncoming car, but do not return back to their place in order to let the oncoming traffic pass and continue the maneuver, but turn to ram. Perhaps they are rushing to hell. But they often kill others. Their passengers, those who were traveling in an oncoming car, but they themselves remain alive.
Literally today I saw an accident, a car hit a scooter. I don’t know yet who is right and who is wrong. All intact. One of my friends from the gym was on the scooter. As soon as I see it, I’ll try to find out what and how, now I just didn’t have time, and the police were writing a report there, it’s inconvenient...
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In general, before my eyes, just this year, there were two moronic accidents: a passenger car flew under a truck standing on the side of the road. In both cases, the car was destroyed, and all four men were killed.
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Marinka: 15 Sep 2023, 01:25 Roads and fools
This is the answer to eternal questions What to do? and Who is to blame? :clever:
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Marinka: 15 Sep 2023, 01:54 In Germany there is such a rule. Unfortunately, we don’t have this in our traffic rules
This is more of a tradition, not a rule. It is impossible to regulate such a movement. Priority before every second car? And if there is an accident, how can you prove the priority?
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vvm: 16 Sep 2023, 07:54 And if there is an accident, how do you prove the sequence
And how do you prove what the traffic light signal was? I assume that they rely on the testimony of witnesses.
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Marinka: 16 Sep 2023, 08:18 And how do they prove what the traffic light signal was? I assume that they rely on the testimony of witnesses
A secondary road is equated to the main one?
That is, a car moves along the main road and slows down in front of each secondary road, to find out the order?
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vvm: 16 Sep 2023, 09:39
Marinka: 16 Sep 2023, 08:18 And how do they prove what the traffic light signal was? I assume that they rely on the testimony of witnesses
A secondary road is equated to the main one?
That is, a car moves along the main road and slows down in front of each secondary road, to find out the order?
Of course not
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vvm: 16 Sep 2023, 07:54 And if there is an accident, how do you prove the sequence
And how do you prove what the traffic light signal was? I assume that they rely on the testimony of witnesses.
Actually, humanity has long invented video recorders, and traffic lights are equipped with a video recording system.
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Marinka: 16 Sep 2023, 08:18 And how do they prove what the traffic light signal was? I assume that they rely on the testimony of witnesses
A secondary road is equated to the main one?
That is, a car moves along the main road and slows down in front of each secondary road, to find out the order?
and if the passer misses not one car, but for example two in a row, then how to determine the priority of the next car?
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vvm: 16 Sep 2023, 07:54 Priority before every second machine?
she herself doesn’t know exactly what this rule sounds like
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Lubitel123: 16 Sep 2023, 11:58 Actually, humanity invented DVRs a long time ago,
There is no direct ban on DVRs, but despite this, using it is not recommended. In order not to violate the rights of third parties.
Lubitel123: 16 Sep 2023, 11:58

and traffic lights are equipped with a video recording system.
What exactly is 100%? And, where there are no traffic lights, what to do? Shall we look for a traffic light with a video recording system?

Next time you write another stupid thing, think about it. Maybe you shouldn’t do this?!
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Marinka, so this paragraph really says that does the priority change across one machine?
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uran: 16 Sep 2023, 12:11 she herself doesn’t know exactly what this rule sounds like
You saw it. Did you write above that they banned entry into Germany with our license plates? So, relax. You won’t need their rules.
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Marinka: 16 Sep 2023, 12:19 You won’t need their rules.
maybe I gathered in an armored personnel carrier and not in a car,
but I’m trying to prove to you that you were mistaken with such a clause of the traffic rules
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uran: 16 Sep 2023, 12:22 but I’m trying to prove to you that you were mistaken with such a clause of the traffic rules
Prove it. Read their rules. Find differences from ours and post here.
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Marinka: 16 Sep 2023, 12:27 Prove it. Read their rules. Find the differences from ours and sign up here.
do you know their traffic rules?
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uran: 16 Sep 2023, 12:31 Do you know their traffic rules?
Leave me alone. If you need it, then look for it. I don’t need it at the moment and won’t need it in the near future.
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Marinka,
Not recommended, this does not mean that it is prohibited, and if you don’t care about your safety, you can drive like that
Well, as for traffic lights, we don’t have asphalt everywhere, so don’t drive there either.
Judging by yours In posts, only you write the truth here in the first instance. The flag is in your hands.
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Lubitel123: 16 Sep 2023, 12:47 Not recommended, this does not mean that it is prohibited
Have you traveled a lot in Germany?
Lubitel123: 16 Sep 2023, 12:47 If you don’t care about your safety, you can drive like this
How does a DVR affect safety?
Lubitel123: 16 Sep 2023, 12:47 Well, as for traffic lights, we don’t have asphalt everywhere, so don’t drive there either.
Not everywhere . So what traffic lights did you write about? Do accidents only happen where there are traffic lights? Why did you even write to me about traffic lights and recorders?
Amateur123: 16 Sep 2023, 12:47 Judging by your posts, only you here write the truth in the first instance. The flag is in your hands.
Well, maybe I don’t write the truth and not always, but at least I think about what to write. Except from others.
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