How do you feel about the Chinese?

[AlexTDV]

I’m thinking of purchasing one, does anyone have operating experience?
https://i.postimg.cc/MZtRwMHk/i-11.jpg
тем у кого нет китайца - тогда какой у вас автомобиль, нравится?

[Greek10]

Soon everyone will be driving Chinese, due to the lack of alternatives. The Chinese have gone far ahead in terms of reliability and service. Take it with confidence, it’s better to buy exiid or hawal. They have a developed dealer network.

[Sorcerer]

I have no prejudices towards the Chinese, but I wouldn’t take the changan just yet. It has not yet been developed, and in my opinion there are no service centers at all, so there will be problems with maintenance.

[Bully Carrie]

I’m thinking of purchasing one, does anyone have operating experience?
https://i.postimg.cc/MZtRwMHk/i-11.jpg
тем у кого нет китайца - тогда какой у вас автомобиль, нравится?

Они же относительно недавно зашли на рынок, опыта пока у людей немного, а опыта сервисного обслуживания тем более немного.
А люди к тому же инертны и традиционно держатся за свои реношечки, мерсики и бэхи любимые))

[Sorcerer]

Hooligan Carrie, Changans have been traveling around Russia for a long time, they just don’t We have a representative office, although negotiations are already underway.

[Bully Carrie]

Hooligan Carrie, Changans have been traveling around for a long time Russia, we simply do not have a representative office, although negotiations are already underway.

Well, how long have they been traveling? How massive? By the way, I see more Gili on the roads. And yes, there are changans in the salons.

[Sorcerer]

changans are available in showrooms

well, these are gray schemes, dealers buy them themselves.
Well, not en masse, of course, but I’ve been observing it for several years. Gili are collected in Belarus, which is why they are widespread. Hawal in the Tula region. fav have somehow quieted down, but before they were active. Well, Cherry is, as it were, the flagship of the Russian market. But soon there will be even more Chinese brands.

[Bully Carrie]

And another question. Do they even have small cars? The SUVs are the same. What can you say about them? And then I looked in the salon - some kind of gigantomania. But both in sex and on the road, I prefer the medium size, they are easier to manage....

[Sorcerer]

I saw both sedans and rav 4 types.

[Greek10]

Hooligan Carrie, Changans have been traveling around Russia for a long time, we simply don’t have a representative office, although negotiations are already underway.

Well, how long have they been traveling? How massive? By the way, I see more Gili on the roads. And so yes, there are Changans in showrooms.

Changans in Russia are taking over the taxi market, instead of K5 and Camry. Soon comfort+ will be all in the Chinese, because there is no update of the park.

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And one more question. Do they even have small cars? The SUVs are the same. What can you say about them? And then I looked in the salon - some kind of gigantomania. And I prefer medium size both in sex and on the road, they are easier to drive....

What is not an SUV
https://haval-vostok-nnmotors.ru/?utm_s ... 1937441791

[Sorcerer]

Changans in Russia are taking the taxi market, instead of K5 and Camry. Soon comfort+ will be all in the Chinese, because there is no fleet renewal.

the sedan that they want to bring to Russia, well, to put it mildly, not very good.

[Greek10]

Changans in Russia are taking the taxi market, instead of K5 and Camry. Soon comfort+ will be all in the Chinese, as there is no fleet renewal.

the sedan they want to bring to Russia, well, to put it mildly, not very good.

Very much so, I work part-time on this myself, we already have half of the park in the park of these changans. There are almost no K5 left anymore.

[Sorcerer]

Very very much, I work part-time on this myself

Chinese Vesta?

[Greek10]

Very very much, I earn money on this myself

Chinese Vesta?

Nothing like that. Optima, only with Chinese gadgets in the cabin. It seems rich, but the materials are cheap

[Sorcerer]

Nothing of the kind. Optima, only with Chinese gadgets in the cabin. It seems rich, but the materials are cheap

no, they want to officially enter the Russian market with a sedan, similar to Vesta. I looked at the review and was not impressed.

[Tamerlane]

Most likely good cars. They need to conquer the market.

[Keep the change for yourself]

I’m thinking of purchasing one, does anyone have operating experience?
https://i.postimg.cc/MZtRwMHk/i-11.jpg
тем у кого нет китайца - тогда какой у вас автомобиль, нравится?

Про такие не скажу. Но знакомые берут Хавалы и очень довольно урчат о том какие они классные.

[King Bird]

No, thanks. The Chinese will die in 2 years or 100 tkm, there are no contract engines for them, the electronics are rubbish, and you will be left with an illiquid piece of iron in your hands and an outstanding loan. And what kind of shishi should I buy a new one for? By the way, the price tag on them is inflated to the point of disgrace, and it’s not clear how. In China itself, these cars are 1.5 - 2 times cheaper. So thank you, on the right side of the Urals, right-hand drive is still relevant. There is not much choice now (problems have been artificially created), but any Japanese is many times more reliable.

[Bully Carrie]

The price tag on them, by the way, is inflated to the point of disgrace, it is not clear how.

Here!

[Beluga]

I am suspicious of them.

[Sweet pepper]

Yes, take the vases, the grandfathers drove normally. It stinks of the Chinese beings with narrow eyes. I won’t give my shawl to anyone

[King Bird]

Yes, take the vases, the grandfathers traveled normally.

Where did you see those grandfather’s vases? Grant current if , then it costs 4 times more than it should be in the real world. Well, there is also a strange cart called Moskvich-3, but as everyone knows, it’s again a Chinese JAC, only with a re-glued nameplate. So that stupid consumers think that this is our import substitution for all sorts of loose Mercedes.

[Pierro]

service, spare parts?
due to the lack of the above - poor liquidity of the car, and, as a result, a large drop in the value of the car immediately after leaving the showroom.

[Sorcerer]

right-hand drive

a used car with a steering wheel in the glove compartment at the cost of a new car, no thanks.

[King Bird]

a used car with a steering wheel in the glove compartment for the cost of a new car, no thanks.

And if the only alternative is a Chinese or Lada, why not ? The car must be Japanese. Or German. To the edge - American. To the very edge - Korean or French. There are no others.

[Bully Carrie]

a used car with a steering wheel in the glove compartment at the cost of a new car, no thanks needed.

What’s wrong with used cars if it’s a usable car ?!

[Sorcerer]

What’s wrong with used cars if it’s a good car?!

I wrote that the cost of a used Japanese one from auctions in Japan will be almost the same as a new car from a showroom.

[Whisperer]

And another question. Do they even have small cars? The SUVs are the same. What can you say about them? And then I looked in the salon - some kind of gigantomania. And I prefer medium size both in sex and on the road, they are easier to handle....

It’s just that the Chinese are short guys by nature, and They apparently have a highly developed "NAPOLEON" complex

[King Bird]

the cost of a used Japanese car from Japanese auctions will be almost the same as a new car from a showroom.

https://auto.drom.ru/kursk/lada/largus/53366422.html
Largus in the salon for 2 million!!! For what???
https://auto.drom.ru/yuzhno-sakhalinsk ... 76777.html
And a real car (Toyota) three years old is almost half the price
Cars of the same class Only the first one is shit.

[Bully Carrie]

I wrote that the cost of a used Japanese car from Japanese auctions will be almost the same as a new car from a showroom.

Well, yes, this is the market , it’s nothing you can do.

[King Bird]

Well, yes, it’s a market, nothing can be done.

What kind of market is there?! There is no market in the Russian Federation! Just patronage. At first there were bows to the friends at the auto basin, when the first tariffs began to be imposed on the Japanese and Americans. Then, when globalization began, Renault Nissan took over the car for a while, and foreign concessions began to be taken over, and a imbalance also began - they came up with SBCTS. And now, when we began to bow to the coolies, a generally disgusting policy has begun, plus it’s unclear what the disposal fee is for. Remember - for every Chinese car purchased, we overpay officials from the Russian Federation and China more than half the cost of the car! NO TO CHINESE CRAFTS! (quietly: even a Russian (conditionally) car is better to take than crap from Uncle Liao).

[Bully Carrie]

Well, yes, it’s a market, nothing can be done.

What is it like market?! There is no market in the Russian Federation! Just patronage. At first there were bows to the friends at the auto basin, when the first tariffs began to be imposed on the Japanese and Americans. Then, when globalization began, Renault Nissan took over the car for a while, and foreign concessions began to be taken over, and a imbalance also began - they came up with SBCTS. And now, when we began to bow to the Chinese, a generally disgusting policy has taken place, plus it’s unclear what the disposal fee is for. Remember - for every Chinese car purchased, we overpay officials from the Russian Federation and China more than half the cost of the car! NO TO CHINESE CRAFTS!

So of course, I agree with you about manual control of the market.
I answered the question, that’s why used Japanese cars are so expensive. That’s exactly why....

[Sorcerer]

King Zogu, are you by any chance an employee of a company that transports cars? from Japan?
Well, to each his own, who buys a car from a showroom, even if it is Chinese, others overpay for used ones that samurai sell at auctions. They farted the seats there, drained the batteries of the hybrids, and got tired. Pay for the car, delivery, customs clearance, and for the company’s services. And if you are still far from the company, then for the services of a transport truck. No, thank you, the Chinese are better, I have no prejudice against the Chinese auto industry. They’ve come a long way and they’ll soon give Japan a hard time.

[King Bird]

Sorcerer, I also have no prejudices, and I don’t An employee of an auto company, I’m more of a simple consumer of quality stuff for reasonable money. In any case, when buying a used product, you are taking on some risks and costs. But buy a new product that will obviously be worse than used, this is, to put it mildly, a risky investment. So, I appeal to dear lovers of handicrafts from Uncle Liao from the "brotherly" People’s Republic of China, put Japan (Germany, the USA, and even South Korea) with cancer . Future will tell.

[clouds]

IMHO, the most interesting thing from China is Geely, after all, Geely owns a Volvo, owned a brand new Volvo crossover in the top for six months, well, in theory, of course, it’s still mine, but I’ll never use it again