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Forgive or be forgiven
Now I was driving in the car and listening to the radio. There was a song playing. It contains the words: forgive or be forgiven. And, I thought. Everyone has faced this choice at least once in their life. What did we choose? Did you regret your choice? What is the best way to deal with such situations? Forgive or be forgiven?
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Re: Forgive or be forgiven
It most likely depends on the situation, in any case, this is a choice that you should not regret, and they forgave and said goodbye)
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Re: Forgive or be forgiven
Execution cannot be pardoned) the main thing is not to regret your choice later) And if something is serious, then there is no trust left in the person) and constant quarrels, checks, fucks, morally depress both over time)
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Re: Forgive or be forgiven
It’s quite simple. If you love and want them to stay with you, of course you can forgive. And if not, then this is an excellent excuse to end the relationship.
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Re: Forgive or be forgiven
A What is harder in your opinion, to forgive or to be forgiven?aleksey.bro: ↑16 Dec 2023, 03:09 It most likely depends on the situation, in any case, this is a choice that you should not regret, and they forgave and said goodbye)
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I think to forgive is much harder, it’s always easier to put an end to it and move on, but then come what may, rather than leave it all inside and launch the definition mechanism... again, depending on what we’re talking about
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Re: Forgive or be forgiven
There was nothing to forgive, but it was easy to forgive. Although I would forgive easily.
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Re: Forgive or be forgiven
nAnd what could you never forgive? I mean in relationships.aleksey.bro: ↑16 Dec 2023, 04:09I think to forgive is much harder, it’s always easier to put point and move on, and then come what may, rather than leave it all inside and start the definition mechanism... again, depending on what we are talking about
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Re: Forgive or be forgiven
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Strecoza,
Can I ask you another question? Are you ready to imagine some kind of harm to an animal or another person that will suffer damage to its health?
For example, some friend or acquaintance betrayed him, sent him away and that’s the end of it, completely It’s a different story if it’s someone from the family or relatives, there’s a slightly different look
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Strecoza,
Can I ask you another question? Are you ready to imagine some kind of harm to an animal or another person that will suffer damage to its health?
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Re: Forgive or be forgiven
It’s better to say goodbye, of course. Because it is basically impossible to forgive anything. You can convince yourself of anything, you can try to forget and move on with your life. But no one knows when this will all trigger, but it will definitely be more painful and difficult.
So if this question arose in principle, you need to leave.
So if this question arose in principle, you need to leave.
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Re: Forgive or be forgiven
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In general, you can speculate about any situations , but I’m interested in choice in relationships. It does not have to be a formal marriage. Interested in any form of relationship.aleksey.bro: ↑16 Dec 2023, 04:12For example, some friend or acquaintance betrayed him, sent that’s the end of it, it’s a completely different conversation if it’s someone from the family or relatives, there’s a slightly different view
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I took the Hippocratic oath.aleksey.bro: ↑16 Dec 2023, 04:13 Can I ask you another question? Are you ready to imagine some kind of harm to an animal or another person that will suffer damage to his health?
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Re: Forgive or be forgiven
It’s difficult, very difficult. Because situations are different, so are people.
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You can forgive and life will turn into hell
Sent after 1 minute 58 seconds:
You can forgive and life will turn into hell
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Again, what if in this situation there is a threat to you or your loved ones or children?
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It’s the same here, I don’t have a definite answer for you, it’s all a matter of chanceStrecoza:16 Dec 2023, 04:19 In general, you can speculate about any situations, but for me interesting choice in relationships. It does not have to be a formal marriage. I’m interested in any form of relationship.
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Re: Forgive or be forgiven
I’ll tell you about myself, my wife and a friend were on vacation at the seaside, the betrayal, as soon as I found out, was omitted, I forgave them, they lived and lived and still got divorced, but they should have done it right away, they spent 5 years.
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Re: Forgive or be forgiven
If after this life turned into hell, then they didn’t forgive you!
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If there is a threat, then definitely it must be eliminated. In such situations there are no options.aleksey.bro: ↑16 Dec 2023, 04:34 Again, what if in this situation there is a threat to you or your loved ones or children?
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Golden words!
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Re: Forgive or be forgiven
Exactly. Because it is impossible to forgive. You can only convince yourself that you have forgiven.
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You can forgive a lot, but hell is because of forgiveness, they wipe their feet on you.
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You will still sometimes remember and think, what would have happened if......Strecoza: ↑16 Dec 2023, 03:05 Now I was driving in the car and listening to the radio. There was a song playing. It contains the words: forgive or be forgiven. And, I thought. Everyone has faced this choice at least once in their life. What did we choose? Did you regret your choice? What is the best way to deal with such situations? Forgive or be forgiven?
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Re: Forgive or be forgiven
to understand - is there a way out of it? Which? And how acceptable is it? Analyze the consequences of your decisions...
And then be puzzled - should you forgive?..
I missed a bunch of nuances!.. First you need to understand the situation: what, why, how, why?.. Then, try
to understand - is there a way out of it? Which? And how acceptable is it? Analyze the consequences of your decisions...
And then be puzzled - should you forgive?..

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Re: Forgive or be forgiven
depending on who and what to forgive... if it’s mom and dad... then I’ll forgive them everything... well, or almost everything... I’m just 100% sure that they will never do anything to me in their life an act for which I cannot forgive them..
speaking for my husband... I will forgive everything.. except betrayal... I think that I cannot forgive betrayal... although... I don’t know.. . Most likely I won’t forgive...
I understand that it’s easier to write that “Userusya but I won’t submit.”... well, I’ll feel it...
So probably only the one who has the right to write Damn itself.. without any "flaws"... and this, unfortunately, is not about me...
speaking for my husband... I will forgive everything.. except betrayal... I think that I cannot forgive betrayal... although... I don’t know.. . Most likely I won’t forgive...
I understand that it’s easier to write that “Userusya but I won’t submit.”... well, I’ll feel it...
So probably only the one who has the right to write Damn itself.. without any "flaws"... and this, unfortunately, is not about me...
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No matter how hard it is, it’s better to say goodbye, sooner or later it will still come out sideways, although it’s hard as hell!!!
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When I was 12 weeks pregnant... my husband suddenly decided that he was not ready to become a father and said: go have an abortion or artificial birth, we will have more children later... He began to go to his ex-girlfriend... to complain about me and like, don’t sleep with her, come on, how can you? I didn’t forgive, I said goodbye, packed my things and returned to my parents. Now...and my son is already 29...we communicate normally. We can talk on the phone for hours... (he lives in another city for a long time), but I thought so many times, could there have been a different situation? No, it couldn’t. I don’t regret anything in my life.
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He who betrays you once will betray you a second time. So, adios muchachos.
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Did he want an abortion or the birth of a child without a cesarean section?
Sorry, which difference did your husband want?
Did he want an abortion or the birth of a child without a cesarean section?
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He wanted me to get rid of the child in any way, he didn’t care which way. He even almost hit me once, he was driving a car at breakneck speed and when I was crossing the road. flew into oncoming traffic to drive half a meter away from me, so that I would feel bad...
Birth of a child without a cesarean section What kind of mess is in your head What does a cesarean section have to do with it? Abortion is possible only up to 12 weeks of pregnancy; if you get rid of the child later, then only by inducing an artificial birth.
Birth of a child without a cesarean section What kind of mess is in your head What does a cesarean section have to do with it? Abortion is possible only up to 12 weeks of pregnancy; if you get rid of the child later, then only by inducing an artificial birth.
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And yes, I have never encountered anything like artificial childbirth.
Tupanul...
But in essence, this is already a birth, as I said above.
One thing I want to say/ask: dear girls and women, what Do you allow this to be done to you?
I’m talking about whether some kind of unreliability was visible in the man before the situation. Did you feel it?
This is not a mess in my head. This is your message.
And yes, I have never encountered anything like artificial childbirth.
Tupanul...
But in essence, this is already a birth, as I said above.
One thing I want to say/ask: dear girls and women, what Do you allow this to be done to you?
I’m talking about whether some kind of unreliability was visible in the man before the situation. Did you feel it?
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That’s exactly why I left... so as not to allow this to continue to happen to me. There was no unreliability in him, he was just stupidly homely, sweet and just such a family boy, and his mother is generally the best mother-in-law in the world, I sobbed with her in my arms when I left him. I think the point is that he simply didn’t love me, he loved his ex and when she beckoned, he was ready to do anything for her... She then left him... naturally.
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For me at the age of 20, it seemed that the most important thing was to have love, but for marriage this turned out to be insufficient. But love in youth is perceived differently... valued: passion, thirst for another person, only with age you understand that love is different. Love is care, attention and careful attitude towards a partner, his feelings and his needs - something that was missing in my marriage. There was passion, yes... but passion won’t get you far.
Mistakes of youth... at a young age, when there is not enough experience in communicating with the opposite sex, it is very difficult to figure out what’s what.
For me at the age of 20, it seemed that the most important thing was to have love, but for marriage this turned out to be insufficient. But love in youth is perceived differently... valued: passion, thirst for another person, only with age you understand that love is different. Love is care, attention and careful attitude towards a partner, his feelings and his needs - something that was missing in my marriage. There was passion, yes... but passion won’t get you far.
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Re: Forgive or be forgiven
True, he himself naturally did not avoid this mistake. But then over time I corrected my mistake.
That’s why I’m sure that you shouldn’t get married in your youth under the influence of passion. This should be done at a more conscious age.◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊: ↑22 Jan 2024, 23:03Mistakes of youth... at a young age, when there is not enough experience in communicating with the opposite sex, it is very difficult to figure out what’s what.
For me at the age of 20, it seemed that the most important thing was to have love, but for marriage this turned out to be insufficient. But love in youth is perceived differently... valued: passion, thirst for another person, only with age you understand that love is different. Love is care, attention and careful attitude towards a partner, his feelings and his needs - something that was missing in my marriage. There was passion, yes... but passion won’t get you far.
True, he himself naturally did not avoid this mistake. But then over time I corrected my mistake.
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my great-grandmother was married off by her parents and she lived with one husband all her life) my grandmother said that she had never I heard them arguing. It’s probably not in vain that parents of brides/grooms were looking for them before.Ksenofont: ↑22 Jan 2024, 23:52That’s why I’m sure that you shouldn’t get married in your youth under the influence of passion. This should be done at a more conscious age.◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊: ↑22 Jan 2024, 23:03Mistakes of youth... at a young age, when there is not enough experience in communicating with the opposite sex, it is very difficult to figure out what’s what.VARG_: ↑22 Jan 2024, 14:39 I want to say/ask one thing: dear girls and women, why do you allow this to happen to you?
I’m talking about whether some kind of insecurity was visible in the man before the situation. Have you felt this?
For me at the age of 20, it seemed that the most important thing was to have love, but for marriage this turned out to be insufficient. But love in youth is perceived differently... valued: passion, thirst for another person, only with age you understand that love is different. Love is care, attention and careful attitude towards a partner, his feelings and his needs - something that was missing in my marriage. There was passion, yes... but passion won’t get you far.
True, he himself naturally did not avoid this mistake. But then over time I corrected my mistake.
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I don’t know.. This is a difficult question for me. I thought for days about whether it was worth answering it at all... Sometimes you can forgive, but you still have to say goodbye. Or rather say goodbye and then forgive. When my ex and I broke up, we wanted to hurt each other as much as possible so that it would be forever. After a couple of months we cooled down, talked calmly, forgave each other, but decided that we would no longer be together. It seems Tolstoy said: “You can understand, forgive... You can’t hug - your arms are broken.” Our ex has a strange relationship altogether. I even fuck her from time to time, regardless of whether one of us has a regular partner or not. I don’t know, for some reason she never refuses me. Maybe as the first man
I even once got a call from the guy with whom she got along with me out of spite. I wanted us not to communicate and I didn’t call. How can we not communicate if we have a common business? I have established supply channels, my wife was in charge of accounting and sales.
We immediately decided not to divide anything, not to destroy the established business, so that the small one would not suffer financially. Therefore, on occasion, I can grab Tanya by the tit right in the back room and start unbuttoning her jeans. The only answer was: wait, I’ll lock the door. Even our daughter once found us in the apartment 1.5-2 years after the divorce. We heard the key turn in the lock, she looked into the room: and we were like two teenagers - we covered ourselves with a pillow and a blanket and sat with a guilty look.
Why am I telling all this, I don’t understand..

I even once got a call from the guy with whom she got along with me out of spite. I wanted us not to communicate and I didn’t call. How can we not communicate if we have a common business? I have established supply channels, my wife was in charge of accounting and sales.
We immediately decided not to divide anything, not to destroy the established business, so that the small one would not suffer financially. Therefore, on occasion, I can grab Tanya by the tit right in the back room and start unbuttoning her jeans. The only answer was: wait, I’ll lock the door. Even our daughter once found us in the apartment 1.5-2 years after the divorce. We heard the key turn in the lock, she looked into the room: and we were like two teenagers - we covered ourselves with a pillow and a blanket and sat with a guilty look.
Why am I telling all this, I don’t understand..
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Re: Forgive or be forgiven
I read it!!! I didn’t understand anything, I started crying!!! I want to hug you all!!! if by chance other topics didn’t read!!!
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Re: Forgive or be forgiven
Last bumped by Venus on 16 May 2024, 20:47.
Connecting rod, as it seemed to me from your story, you are up to you still love her and she you. You regret that you couldn’t cope with the situation then and couldn’t understand and forgive each other.
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