A little bit not about sex, but

[AlexTDV]

I recently heard that a man invited a woman on a date to have dinner at a restaurant and everyone paid the bill for themselves, how do you feel about this?
I have always closed the account myself for as long as I can remember, this is usually good manners, maybe now there are some... then people have different concepts?

[Venus]

I recently heard that a man invited a woman on a date to have dinner at a restaurant and everyone paid the bill for themselves, how do you feel about this?
I have always closed the account myself as far back as I can remember, this is usually a rule of good manners, maybe Now do people have any other ideas?

Nowadays, a situation is possible where a woman’s financial situation is no worse than a man’s, and sometimes even better . In such situations, my conscience will not allow me to eat a man. I’m crying myself. I don’t see anything wrong with that.
And, in general, I don’t like restaurants. I prefer to sit in a cafe. Order a cup of tea and cake there. Inexpensive and tasty. And then go for a walk, if the weather permits.

[Midas]

And this is how it has become in Europe. The world and the contents of the wallet are changing. In this regard, it is bad that the Russian soul began to curtail, there is no such freedom.

[Henson]

Nowadays a situation is possible where a woman’s financial situation is no worse than a man’s, and sometimes even better. In such situations, my conscience will not allow me to eat a man. I’m crying myself. I don’t see anything wrong with that.
And, in general, I don’t like restaurants. I prefer to sit in a cafe. Order a cup of tea and cake there. Inexpensive and tasty. And then go for a walk, if the weather permits.

I have a very similar relationship. not in terms of"whoever has more money pays," but in terms of division. my girlfriend is sensitive to her independence and self-realization, she allows me to pay for anything, but on the condition that next time she pays. The logic is very simple: we are both for equality (literally, as people we are not different from each other) and if we are both looking for a partner to build a more comfortable life, and life for us is akin to business, then the conditions for everyone should be equal. You wouldn’t take a parasite as a business partner who takes his share for “inspiration and support,” so it’s the same with us.
As before, about 1000 years ago, Muslims said to the newly conquered peoples, “What is for us is for you. What is for us is for you,” that is, equal rights and responsibilities.
I personally don’t give up on a girl who needs to be impressed by paying bills. I need a partner of equal value to me, and not an inspiring parasite
P.S. I’m not being aggressive, in my head it all sounds just like that, without any emotional coloring

[Andrew495]

It seems to me that the most important thing is that both the chosen payment ritual is pleasant and does not spoil the trip to the restaurant))))

[Venus]

Nowadays a situation is possible where a woman’s financial situation is no worse than a man’s, and sometimes even better. In such situations, my conscience will not allow me to eat a man. I’m crying myself. I don’t see anything wrong with that.
And, in general, I don’t like restaurants. I prefer to sit in a cafe. Order a cup of tea and cake there. Inexpensive and tasty. And then go for a walk, if the weather permits.

I have a very similar relationship. not in terms of"whoever has more money pays," but in terms of division. my girlfriend is sensitive to her independence and self-realization, she allows me to pay for anything, but on the condition that next time she pays. The logic is very simple: we are both for equality (literally, as people we are not different from each other) and if we are both looking for a partner to build a more comfortable life, and life for us is akin to business, then the conditions for everyone should be equal. You wouldn’t take a parasite as a business partner who takes his share for “inspiration and support,” so it’s the same with us.
As before, about 1000 years ago, Muslims said to the newly conquered peoples, “What is for us is for you. What is for us is for you,” that is, equal rights and responsibilities.
I personally don’t give up on a girl who needs to be impressed by paying bills. I need a partner of equal value to me, and not an inspiring parasite
P.S. I’m not being aggressive, in my head it all sounds just like that, without any emotional coloring

All people are different . Your desires are quite understandable. If your girlfriend shares them, then that’s wonderful.
You are wrong about business. Everyone invests to the best of their strengths and capabilities, and in relationships, independence means distancing, and inspiration and support are expensive.
When you get into trouble or have serious health problems, you will understand that when everyone is for themselves, this is not a relationship and you have turned from an equal partner into a parasite and your equal partner has crossed you out of the partners and replaced you.

[rasaroam]

I recently heard that a man invited a woman on a date to have dinner at a restaurant and everyone paid the bill for themselves, how do you feel about this?
I have always closed the account myself as far back as I can remember, this is usually a rule of good manners, maybe Now do people have some other concepts?

What’s wrong??
A woman doesn’t have arms and a head, and she cannot earn money and needs support?

However, there are both women and men, and this should also be treated with understanding.
But in ideally, when both income and expenses in a couple are divided 50/50.

[Venus]

ideally, when both income and expenses in a couple are divided 50/50.

Ideally, everything that is earned in common is spent on according to family needs, and large expenses are discussed together.

[Alice]

I will be pleased if a man pays for me in a restaurant; if he invites me, then he must be ready for this.
I perceive this as an element of courtship. But I won’t be impudent and ask for Veuve Clicguot...
And at the same time, paying the bill 50/50 can be discussed between us, but only in advance.

[SeRg !$!]

Likewise, I always cry on a date, except when I come across these modern young ladies (I can do it myself, I’m generally against your gender manipulations)... then I found a way out of the situation: before payment, two bank cards are placed on the table, mine and the ladies like this, and it works chance whose card the waiter will choose)

[Henson]

Everyone contributes to the best of his/her strengths and capabilities

this is exactly what we are talking about, about equal contribution to the best of their ability. Do I earn more? ok, no problem, I’ll pay more or more often (in fact, this is what happens here, I simply have more opportunities). but my girlfriend also strives for independence, as they would have said earlier, this is already a matter of honor. and I am pleased to see that in this relationship I am not a means of solving her financial issues, but a partner. We can live just fine alone, but it’s much more pleasant for us together. and money is money, a tool, not the basis of a relationship.

inspiration and support are expensive.

support (as it is often presented) I never looked for it. for me it is something so illusory that it is not worth attention. support in solving specific issues, assistance in solving problems - YES HIGH! but most often these are just empty, meaningless words in the spirit of “well, don’t worry.” This is a value that cannot be assessed and therefore can be manipulated. "I listened to you, I’m worried!" and what has changed?

When you get into trouble or have serious health problems, you will understand that when every man is for himself, this is not a relationship and you have turned from an equal partner into a parasite and your equal partner has crossed you out of the partners and replaced you. n

serious illness is a terrible phenomenon. and this is where support is really needed: to take over everyday life and finances, and take care of treatment issues. and precisely because a partner carries value, it is scary to lose him, it will be worse without him/her. but if the partner (men can be parasites too, don’t forget) only took advantage of the relationship and manipulated with meaningless support, then what’s the point of staying with him? not even in illness, in health, why is it necessary?
If my partner is not equal to me at least in aspirations, I am bored. it’s like building a romantic relationship with a child who simply exists and is nothing of himself, but let’s feed him, dress him, take him on vacation in the summer, buy a new phone to replace the stupidly broken old one.

this whole speech can be boiled down to one question. WHY DO I NEED IT, if nothing has really improved?

[Alexssss]

I will be pleased if a man pays for me in a restaurant; if he invites me, then he must be ready for this.
I perceive this as an element of courtship. But I won’t be impudent and ask for Veuve Clicguot...
And at the same time, paying the bill 50/50 can be discussed between us, but only in advance.

I would be ashamed if, having invited a girl, I did not pay for her. Even if nothing worked out. If a girl insists that she will pay for her own table, then it is clear that there will be no prospects)

[Didudo]

I always paid the bill. But maybe now this question is so relevant because of meeting people through social networks? For example, people meet on Tinder and have a first date right away in a restaurant; many girls do not use this to develop relationships. They even came up with a term for them: “plate-eaters”, “empty-eaters”. And men in active search at some point come to an understanding on this topic, and this is the question that arises.
When I was there, acquaintances usually took place in some company or at study or work. People communicated, showed sympathy and interest. Already during this period, the intentions of both in relation to each other were clear and the question of who pays did not arise in principle, since the man treated the girl as a raging partner, wife.

[rasaroam]

ideally, when both income and expenses in a couple are divided 50/50.

Ideally, everything that is earned common and is spent according to family needs, and large expenses are discussed together.

Of course.
However, in reality it often happens that a woman believes: “ONLY he should support the family,” and all she earns is “for my money.”
Moreover, the size of both earnings is not taken into account.
In the end, all that he earns - he scrapes to the bottom, and he still has to get into debt, and she spends only 10-15% of her income (sometimes quite a lot, and even more than his!), and saves the rest. Moreover, he doesn’t let him near his accumulated wealth....

[Bully Carrie]

I have always closed the account myself for as long as I can remember, this is usually good manners,

Here.

[Henson]

Of course.
However, in reality it often happens that a woman believes: “ONLY he should support the family,” and all she earns is “for my money.”
Moreover, the size of both earnings is not taken into account.
In the end, everything he earns is raked to the bottom, and he still has to get into debt, and she spends only 10-15% of her income (sometimes quite a lot, and even larger than his!), and saves the rest. Moreover, he doesn’t let him near his accumulated wealth....

yes yes yes! We’ll spend yours first, and then we’ll each spend ours.

[Venus]

if nothing has really improved?

You have a consumerist attitude towards people. Not everything has to bring tangible benefits, and not everything. Relationships, family, children. This is the case when you give more than you receive, and this is not because you are making long-term investments at this moment, but because we need spiritual food no less than natural, material food.

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ideally , when both income and expenses in a couple are divided 50/50.

Ideally, everything that is earned in common is spent according to family needs, and large expenses are discussed together.

Of course.
However, in reality it often happens that a woman believes: "support the family" should ONLY he, and all that she earns is "for my money".
Moreover, the size of both earnings is not taken into account.
In the end, all that he earns is raked out to the bottom, and he still has she has to go into debt, but she spends only 10-15% of her income (sometimes quite a lot, and even more than his!), and saves the rest. Moreover, he doesn’t let him near his accumulated wealth....

This is the first time I’ve heard about this.

[Henson]

we need spiritual food no less

but this is a fucked-up personal moment, please take into account and do not attribute propaganda to me.
I don’t care spiritual, like cancer to the moon. Well, I just don’t care about all these ephemeral things that are easy to show off and impossible to appreciate. I value parents for their help and sanity, and not for parental authority. I value relationships for their benefits and for the fact that with someone you can realize much more than on your own, and I don’t value them for a beautiful picture or a social institution. I am a full-fledged person and I don’t need a soulmate, in fact, I was always looking for the same

and a little separately. what if you flip the picture? will a man accept a female role, and a woman a male one? Will it be cool?
In a relationship, I fundamentally don’t divide into male and female. we’re both people, we’re all here

[Venus]

[quote=Strecoza post_id=276587 time=1698054487 user_id=
I care about the spiritual as much as I care about the moon. Well, I just don’t care about all these ephemeral things that are easy to show off and impossible to appreciate. I value parents for their help and sanity, and not for parental authority. I value relationships for their benefits and for the fact that with someone you can realize much more than on your own, and I don’t value them for a beautiful picture or a social institution. I am a full-fledged person and I don’t need a soulmate, in fact, I was always looking for the same

and a little separately. what if you flip the picture? will a man accept a female role, and a woman a male one? Will it be cool?
In a relationship, I fundamentally don’t divide into male and female. we are both human beings here

How will a man accept a female role? She will carry a child for 9 months, then breastfeed for a year and babysit until school, and then lessons, clubs, sections and of course all this time also illnesses? And, a woman will put on family underpants and support the sofa with her back, and on the weekend she will go fishing with her friends to drink vodka or go to the sauna with prostitutes?

[Henson]

Based before school, and then lessons, clubs, sections and of course all this time also illnesses? And, a woman will put on family underpants and support the sofa with her back, and on the weekend she will go fishing with her friends to drink vodka or go to the sauna with prostitutes?

wow, you understood everything perfectly. everyone has to contribute. there will be an advantage in one direction - there will be quarrels and discontent. and if there is division, there will be an overestimation of one’s achievements and an underestimation of the efforts of the opposite side. after all, it can be said in exactly the same way that wives suffer from crap at home, spend 5 minutes at the stove, sit the child down to do homework and watch the house2 while her husband rips his asshole at work and doesn’t see the world, takes everything to the family, doesn’t even spend it on his own underpants . but this is not true.
child care, home life, and finances must be divided between two. as well as for recreation with entertainment, both have the right equally

[Venus]

household life, and finances must be divided between two.

Do not divide, but invest according to your strengths and capabilities. You just need to decide what you want from life. If you want children and comfort in your home, then get ready that your wife may receive little or will not be able to work at all if you want several children and do not want them to grow up on their own. And, if you want a wife who will develop and have a career, then get ready for the fact that she will probably study a lot, work a lot, and your house will often be empty in the evenings and the bed will be cold. And there may be no children at all.

[Alice]

Strecoza, but you can’t program it in advance. Today my wife sits with the children, and after a while she decided to develop....
It’s just that if you want, you can always find a compromise.
I was lucky, everything worked out. And children, and a house and two higher education... what didn’t work out was getting a license...

And if you want a wife who will develop and make a career, then get ready for the fact that perhaps she will study a lot, work, and your house will often be empty in the evenings and the bed will be cold. And, perhaps there will be no children at all.

And in this situation, the husband may well replace the children’s mother...
But morally yes, you need to be prepared...

[AlexTDV]

Strecoza, but you can’t program it in advance. Today my wife sits with the children, and after a while she decided to develop....
It’s just that if you want, you can always find a compromise.
I was lucky, everything worked out. And children, and a house and two higher education... what didn’t work out was getting a license...

And if you want a wife who will develop and make a career, then get ready for the fact that perhaps she will study a lot, work, and your house will often be empty in the evenings and the bed will be cold. And, perhaps there will be no children at all.

And in this situation, the husband may well replace the children’s mother...
But morally yes, you need to be prepared....

I’d rather go to work at the mine face and it will be easier than sitting at home with the children))

[Henson]

Today my wife sits with the children, and after a while she decided to develop....
It’s just that if you want, you can always find a compromise.
I was lucky, everything worked out. And children, and a house and two higher education... what didn’t work out was getting a license...

thanks for the confirmation) the world is not black- white and there are always opportunities if both are ready to find a solution, and not slyly evade for the sake of their own comfort

regarding

your house will often be empty in the evenings and your bed will be cold. And there may be no children at all.

, not everything is so sad. Doctors of science have children, women in top management also manage to not have children. who said that self-development and career building are not compatible with personal life? as if yes, there is less free time, but it still remains. My girlfriend is a student, she’s just busy with her studies, and I’m busy with my career and frankly enjoying it. and at the same time we find time for the two of us, and sex has not gone away, the relationship has not faded away. although we don’t want or plan to have children, so we found each other in this regard

[Venus]

Strecoza, but you can’t program it in advance. Today my wife sits with the children, and after a while she decided to develop....
It’s just that if you want, you can always find a compromise.
I was lucky, everything worked out. And children, and a house and two higher education... what didn’t work out was getting a license...

And if you want a wife who will develop and make a career, then get ready for the fact that perhaps she will study a lot, work, and your house will often be empty in the evenings and the bed will be cold. And, perhaps there will be no children at all.

And in this situation, the husband may well replace the children’s mother...
But morally yes, you need to be prepared....

I agree with you.
You can’t foresee everything in advance, and you won’t be smart enough, I I’m already silent about experience, which comes with many mistakes, but you can always reach an agreement. Don’t accumulate in yourself and then throw out the accumulated resentment, but come to an agreement right away. Without ultimatums, as is customary with us, but as a problem that needs to be solved and thought together and solved together.
I was unlucky and don’t need anything anymore.

[Alice]

AlexTDV, and I wouldn’t work with you. ..waited at home with a delicious dinner

[Venus]

stressing about my career

Are you on vacation now? It’s just a working day, and you’re sitting here.

[Henson]

Strecoza, I have an irregular schedule and work remotely. Sometimes I don’t get out of my chair for a week, sometimes I have a free day, I wait for edits, they come in the evening and I work all night. remote programmers and designers will understand

[Xenophon]

We got off topic. Again about equality. Equality is great. But there are also traditions.
A man is always a knight who protects, cherishes and cherishes his lady. He is ready to give his life for her. This tradition has become a principle that arose a long time ago and which, surprisingly, is rapidly being destroyed with the help of ladies.
I will never allow a lady to pay in a cafe. This is the principle. No money, walk in the park and breathe fresh air. Take it in the end.
I give the lady flowers and offer my hand when she gets off public transport. I give you a coat and don’t think it’s shameful to help zip up your boots. And I will never stand aside if I see that a woman is being offended, even if I understand that I’m unlikely to be able to help.
First of all, children, women and the elderly are saved. This is also a principle. There is no need to abandon principles developed over centuries because of wrongdoing. Nothing good will come of this!

[Venus]

Strecoza, I don’t have a standardized schedule and remote work. Sometimes I don’t get out of my chair for a week, sometimes I have a free day, I wait for edits, they come in the evening and I work all night. remote programmers and designers will understand

Strecoza, I have an irregular schedule and work remotely. Sometimes I don’t get out of my chair for a week, sometimes I have a free day, I wait for edits, they come in the evening and I work all night. remote programmers and designers will understand

Then explain to me how you manage your career? What meaning do you put into this expression?

[Xenophon]

AlexTDV, and I would be with you and didn’t work...waited at home with a delicious dinner

Sorry, you like men who don’t love their own children ?

[Henson]

Then explain to me how you manage your career? What meaning do you put into this expression?

1) this is not what this topic is about
2) I don’t want to disclose personal information
3) the meaning is simple. We are both passionate about our activities, but we don’t neglect relationships
4) seriously? Should I start describing my workdays? What tasks do I perform and for whom?

[Venus]

Then explain to me how you manage your career? What meaning do you put into this expression?

1) this is not what this topic is about
2) I don’t want to disclose personal information
3) the meaning is simple. We are both passionate about our activities, but we don’t neglect relationships
4) seriously? Should I start describing my workdays? what tasks do I perform and for whom?

)))) I understand that your words about being passionate about your career are just words.

[◊_NeBo[_Na_]LaDoNi_◊]

Nowadays a situation is possible where a woman’s financial situation is no worse than a man’s, and sometimes even better. In such situations, my conscience will not allow me to eat a man. I’m crying myself. I don’t see anything wrong with that.
And, in general, I don’t like restaurants. I prefer to sit in a cafe. Order a cup of tea and cake there. Inexpensive and tasty. And then go for a walk, if the weather permits.

I have a very similar relationship. not in terms of"whoever has more money pays," but in terms of division. my girlfriend is sensitive to her independence and self-realization, she allows me to pay for anything, but on the condition that next time she pays. The logic is very simple: we are both for equality (literally, as people we are not different from each other) and if we are both looking for a partner to build a more comfortable life, and life for us is akin to business, then the conditions for everyone should be equal. You wouldn’t take a parasite as a business partner who takes his share for “inspiration and support,” so it’s the same with us.
As before, about 1000 years ago, Muslims said to the newly conquered peoples, “What is for us is for you. What is for us is for you,” that is, equal rights and responsibilities.
I personally don’t give up on a girl who needs to be impressed by paying bills. I need a partner of equal value to me, and not an inspiring parasite
P.S. I’m not being aggressive, in my head it all sounds just like that, without any emotional coloring

All people are different . Your desires are quite understandable. If your girlfriend shares them, then that’s wonderful.
You are wrong about business. Everyone invests to the best of their strengths and capabilities, and in relationships, independence means distancing, and inspiration and support are expensive.
When you get into trouble or have serious health problems, you will understand that when everyone is for themselves, this is not a relationship and you have turned from an equal partner into a parasite and your equal partner has crossed you out of the partners and replaced you. n

a similar topic was discussed on erogen... a story was given where in the same relationship "everything is in half".. a woman became pregnant and gave birth, and her husband told her that you are now living on credit and wrote down all your expenses on diapers, purees, toys, diapers, like in 3 years you will go back to work and pay back

[Alice]

AlexTDV, and I wouldn’t even work with you...I was waiting at home with a delicious dinner

Sorry, you like men who don’t like their own children?

No, just AlexTDV, understands how difficult a mother’s share is.

[career]

and what is the average bill at the restaurant that you usually visit, or sometimes visit?

[Alice]

uran, I have a modest one.
n3000-4000 for three without alcohol.

[Andrew495]

a similar topic was discussed on erogen.. there was a story where in the same relationship "everything is in half".. a woman became pregnant and gave birth, and her husband said that you are now living on credit and wrote down all the expenses on diapers, purees, toys, diapers, like in 3 years you will go to work and pay it back

nWhat difference does it make what the husband says about this? In my opinion, the family code is all known and understood, everything is clear there - everything is common, both expenses and income, if there is no marriage contract.

[Xenophon]

a similar topic was discussed on erogen.. there was a story where in the same relationship "everything in half".. a woman became pregnant and gave birth , and her husband told her that you are now living on credit and wrote down all the expenses on diapers, purees, toys, diapers, like in 3 years you will go to work and pay it back

What difference does it make what your husband says about this? In my opinion, the family code is all known and understood, everything is clear there - everything is common, both expenses and income, if there is no marriage contract.

There is a difference. You can continue to live with him in joy and sorrow.

[Andrew495]

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similar topic was discussed on erogen.. a story was given where in the same relationship "everything is in half"... a woman became pregnant and gave birth, and her husband told her that you are now living on credit and wrote down all the expenses on diapers, purees, toys, diapers, like in 3 years you will go back to work and return
What difference does it make what your husband says about this? In my opinion, the family code is all known and understood, everything is clear there - everything is common, both expenses and income, if there is no marriage contract.
There is a difference. You can continue to live with him in joy and sorrow.

Or not with him), it’s not the Vatican that’s divorcing us here) But, in general, I mean that the desires of one and the spouse that are inadequate to the situation and laws can be completely ignored.

[Xenophon]

Or not with him)

That’s what we’re talking about. There are those who consider this a normal manifestation of equality.

[Venus]

But, in general, I’m talking about the fact that the desires of one and the spouse that are inadequate to the situation and laws can be completely ignored.

Such inadequate desires are not they just happen. Most likely, it all started with “equality” when a man sincerely believes that it is necessary to spend exclusively equally, but as a result, you can’t split it in half today, you will owe it and pay it back in a year. And, I am more than sure that he believes that he is acting generously, since he lends his wife money without interest and with such a long deferment.
In my opinion, both men and women need to choose. Or a full-fledged family, where everything is one whole or in half, but then you won’t be surprised at anything and be prepared to be changed as soon as you can’t cut it in half or you have to. I don’t even know what’s worse in this situation. First or second.

[AlexTDV]

AlexTDV, and I would be with you and didn’t work...waited at home with a delicious dinner

I wish I could wait in a robe, but no panties )

[Andrew495]

Such inadequate desires do not happen just like that. Most likely, it all started with “equality” when a man sincerely believes that it is necessary to spend exclusively equally, but as a result, you can’t split it in half today, you will owe it and pay it back in a year. And, I am more than sure that he believes that he is acting generously, since he lends his wife money without interest and with such a long deferment.
In my opinion, both men and women need to choose too. Or a full-fledged family, where everything is one whole or in half, but then you won’t be surprised at anything and be prepared to be changed as soon as you can’t cut it in half or you have to. I don’t even know what’s worse in this situation. The first or the second.

I think this kind of “pseudo equality” is more of an exception to the rule than our system. And, yes, I agree with you, in the sense that when this began in a relationship, most likely the woman did not fight back such rules, but she should have. This is precisely where there is equality in a couple, that everyone’s wishes should actually suit both.
Well, specifically regarding restaurants, I think that those men among us who are trying to split the bills have the idea is that they would not be used by random ladies only as people paying for their entertainment. But, as they say) ce la vie).

[Topchik]

I recently heard that a man invited a woman on a date to have dinner at a restaurant and everyone paid the bill for themselves, how do you feel about this?
I have always closed the account myself as far back as I can remember, this is usually a rule of good manners, maybe Now do people have some other concepts?

No. What if it’s a business meeting?
Or he simply has no desire to blow it up her ass.
Well, yes. In such situations they do not pay. They only pay when you have to put it in your pussy (to rub against the urethra) or ass... THIS IS CANON.

[Venus]

so that they are not used by random ladies only as people who pay for their entertainment.

There is a type of fraud where when a woman meets a man, they have lunch in a restaurant, and the bill for lunch is huge, simply astronomical. These women work for this restaurant.
Although there is another type of fraud, when a man invites a woman, and then disappears and she has to pay. In this case, the men work for this restaurant. Well, the light version, when a man meets, she comes, he’s not there, but he calls on the phone, tells her to order, and he’s delayed, stuck in traffic. The man doesn’t show up, she pays and he also works for this restaurant, but she only pays for herself and perhaps very little.

[Andrew495]

There is a type of fraud when a woman meets a man, they have lunch in a restaurant, and the bill for lunch is huge, simply astronomical. These women work for this restaurant.
Although there is another type of fraud when a man invites a woman, and then disappears and she has to pay. In this case, the men work for this restaurant. Well, the light version, when a man meets, she comes, he’s not there, but he calls on the phone, tells her to order, and he’s delayed, stuck in traffic. The man doesn’t show up, she pays and he also works for this restaurant, but she only pays for herself and perhaps quite a bit.

Yes, I heard about that. But this is with completely casual acquaintances. I suppose this happens to those who are in too much of a hurry for adventure, and really believe in their attractiveness)

[career]

There is a type of fraud when a woman meets a man, they have lunch in a restaurant, and the bill for lunch is huge, simply astronomical. These women work for this restaurant.

well, the benefit of the restaurant is visible here

Although there is another type of fraud when a man invites a woman, and then disappears and she has to pay. In this case, men work for this restaurant.

what is the benefit of the restaurant?

[Xenophon]

I recently heard that a man invited a woman on a date to have dinner at a restaurant and everyone paid the bill for themselves, how do you feel about this?
I have always closed the account myself for as long as I can remember, this is usually the case good form, maybe people have some other ideas now?

No. What if it’s a business meeting?
Or he simply has no desire to blow it up her ass.
Well, yes. In such situations they do not pay. They pay only when you need to stick it in your pussy (rubbing against the urethra) or ass... THIS IS CANON.

You are a shitty businessman if you are bothered to pay for a cup I’ll drink coffee with your business partner.
Do you have problems with bloating in your butt? You write about this all the time.
Ask and they will trick you. There are no problems with this here.

[Venus]

There is a type of fraud when a woman meets a man, they have lunch in a restaurant, and the bill for lunch is huge, simply astronomical. These women work for this restaurant.
Although there is another type of fraud when a man invites a woman, and then disappears and she has to pay. In this case, the men work for this restaurant. Well, the light version, when a man meets, she comes, he’s not there, but he calls on the phone, tells her to order, and he’s delayed, stuck in traffic. The man doesn’t show up, she pays and he also works for this restaurant, but she only pays for herself and perhaps quite a bit.

Yes, I heard about that. But this is with completely casual acquaintances. I believe this happens to those who are in too much of a hurry for adventure, and really believe in their attractiveness)

In general, it’s very difficult to live now because you don’t understand , who to trust and who not.
I believe that you should go to restaurants, invite them, only if your financial capabilities really allow it, and not with your last money and of course not with debt, just for the sake of make an impression. Show off.
I was invited several times to prestigious establishments. There is a menu for women without prices. Of course I didn’t know about this and was surprised. But it turns out that this was done in order not to embarrass, not to force the woman to choose whether to order what she wants or order modestly. But not everyone can afford such restaurants. Therefore, it’s better to sit in a cafe or just take a walk, and I can cook a delicious meal myself.

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what is the benefit of the restaurant here?

The same as in first case.