Creativity, marriage and infidelity

[Marion]

I think there are creative people on the forum, no matter who - writers, artists, actors (why not)? Since I myself also have some connection to creativity, I would like to ask a question. Not only creative people, but generally everyone who wants to speak out.

I’ll start with the fact that, it seems to me, one of the main enemies of the creative spirit is a happy marriage. But when you have “everything is complicated” and the relationship is tied in a sea knot (and it happens that there are more than one relationship), work, as they say, is rushing and in full swing. Falling in love, stress, infidelity - these are what drive inspiration. These are real muses, without whom you cannot write a good story, and you cannot play a role beautifully. I know from myself that while I was in a love marriage for almost 14 years, I didn’t write a single line. In any case, nothing worthy of publication.

And one more thing. I will call it conditionally "the right to infidelity" for creative people. I believe that for them such a right exists to a greater extent than for everyone else. The reason indirectly follows from what I stated above. Communicating with writers and actors, I came to the conclusion that adultery can become a real source of energy. A sudden surge of feeling (including a forbidden one) - here is the climax for the novel, a new interpretation of the theatrical role, a finished picture. And without an exciting adventure, you see, inspiration will fly away and never return.

[Rainmaker]

There is such a thing, I agree. I myself am a screenwriter and a bit of an actor. And I see everything you are talking about with my own eyes. And, alas, I feel it.

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I think this is due to the fact that if you really “burn”, say, literature and acting, dozens of souls and characters begin to live inside you at the same time. And often they are very angry, dissolute and greedy.

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And I think the problem is not a happy marriage. As Seneca argued that hardships nourish noble souls, so an easy life is contraindicated for creative people.

[Murena0314]

Interesting topic. Yes, I myself, of course, in some sense, am not a creative person, in the same sense as the author of the topic. But it is for my husband that I am a muse. He started taking photographs for my sake, and he does a lot precisely because he has me. Well, in general, if one partner is a muse, an associate for the other, then creativity is quite compatible with a strong marriage. But most likely, this is the kind of creativity that does not involve a long separation of a creative person from his family: photography, painting, writing, etc.
But on the other hand, singers, actors, and other public people who are forced to spend their entire lives on tour, on the road, etc. With them, yes, creativity in vryatli is compatible with a strong marriage and fidelity, when you are separated from your wife or husband for a long time, and there are so many fans or admirers nearby, in general there are a lot of temptations. It’s not for nothing that most celebrities rarely had one family.

[Venus]

Interesting topic. Yes, I myself, of course, in some sense, am not a creative person, in the same sense as the author of the topic. But it is for my husband that I am a muse. He started taking photographs for my sake, and he does a lot precisely because he has me. Well, in general, if one partner is a muse, an associate for the other, then creativity is quite compatible with a strong marriage. But most likely, this is the kind of creativity that does not involve a long separation of a creative person from his family: photography, painting, writing, etc.
But on the other hand, singers, actors, and other public people who are forced to spend their entire lives on tour, on the road, etc. With them, yes, creativity in vryatli is compatible with a strong marriage and fidelity, when you are separated from your wife or husband for a long time, and there are so many fans or admirers nearby, in general there are a lot of temptations. It’s not for nothing that most celebrities rarely had one family.

Interesting topic. Yes, I myself, of course, in some sense, am not a creative person, in the same sense as the author of the topic. But it is for my husband that I am a muse. He started taking photographs for my sake, and he does a lot precisely because he has me. Well, in general, if one partner is a muse, an associate for the other, then creativity is quite compatible with a strong marriage. But most likely, this is the kind of creativity that does not involve a long separation of a creative person from his family: photography, painting, writing, etc.
But on the other hand, singers, actors, and other public people who are forced to spend their entire lives on tour, on the road, etc. With them, yes, creativity in vryatli is compatible with a strong marriage and fidelity, when you are separated from your wife or husband for a long time, and there are so many fans or admirers nearby, in general there are a lot of temptations. It’s not for nothing that most celebrities rarely had one family.

))) By the way, I read that many talented people had muses)))

[Andrew495]

Loyalty and infidelity are relative concepts. I think that some kind of trigger is important that will fan the flame of creativity. It is quite possible that this will be an affair outside of a happy marriage, but not necessarily. Let’s remember Lilya Brik and Mayakovsky, for example) It was the other way around. But there was also a trigger.

[career]

For some reason, writing, singing, acting in the theater is considered creativity... but engineering is not creativity?

[Venus]

For some reason, writing, singing, acting in the theater is considered creativity... but engineering is not creativity?

))) Leonardo da Vinci was an engineer and creative person. One does not interfere with the other at all)))

[Touch-a-Love]

For some reason, writing, singing, acting in the theater is considered creativity... but engineering is not creativity?

Humanities and techies have brains twisted in different directions . We have emotions, you have cold calculations. No offense to anyone, but it is so.

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))) Leonardo da Vinci was an engineer and creative person. One does not interfere with the other at all)))

And Leonardo is generally a genius and visionary of all times and peoples. There have been only a few such people in all time. Not an indicator.

[Venus]

For some reason, writing, singing, acting in the theater is considered creativity... but engineering is not creativity?

Humanities and techies have their brains twisted in different directions. We have emotions, you have cold calculations. No offense to anyone, but it is so.

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))) Leonardo da Vinci was an engineer and creative person. One does not interfere with the other at all)))

And Leonardo is generally a genius and visionary of all times and peoples. There have been only a few such people in all time. Not an indicator.

))) There is a saying that a talented person is talented in everything))) But of course, real talent is rare. More often than not, people are simply good at their jobs.

[Tamerlane]

I think there are creative people on the forum, no matter who - writers, artists, actors (why not)? Since I myself also have some connection to creativity, I would like to ask a question. Not only creative people, but generally everyone who wants to speak out.

I’ll start with the fact that, it seems to me, one of the main enemies of the creative spirit is a happy marriage. But when you have “everything is complicated” and the relationship is tied in a sea knot (and it happens that there are more than one relationship), work, as they say, is rushing and in full swing. Falling in love, stress, infidelity - these are what drive inspiration. These are real muses, without whom you cannot write a good story, and you cannot play a role beautifully. I know from myself that while I was in a love marriage for almost 14 years, I didn’t write a single line. In any case, nothing worthy of publication.

And one more thing. I will call it conditionally "the right to infidelity" for creative people. I believe that for them such a right exists to a greater extent than for everyone else. The reason indirectly follows from what I stated above. Communicating with writers and actors, I came to the conclusion that adultery can become a real source of energy. A sudden surge of feeling (including a forbidden one) - here is the climax for the novel, a new interpretation of the theatrical role, a finished picture. And without an exciting adventure, you see, inspiration will fly away and never return.

There is also a lot of unconventional sex among creative people))))

[Happens]

"the right to infidelity" for creative people

I see. Another indulgence for creative people...
War and creativity will write everything off.

[Keep the change for yourself]

There is also a lot of unconventional sex among creative people))))

Panin definitely won’t let you lie

[Tamerlane]

There is also a lot of unconventional sex among creative people))))

Panin definitely won’t let you lie

This is no longer unconventional.
I don’t understand what it is anymore.
Especially with a dog. And when his foot is in the anus.

[Bro]

But when “everything is complicated” for you and the relationship is tied in a sea knot (and it happens that there are more than one relationship), work, as they say, rushes and hits

that’s exactly what it is! I had a close friend who was a poet. I wrote all my best things precisely in moments when “everything is complicated.” She said that at such moments the lines come on their own without effort. And when a loving husband sits next to you, looking into your eyes, it’s a complete zero. No thoughts, no words, no matter how hard you try.
In general, when a person has a well-fed and comfortable life, then difficulties begin with creativity
There are many examples in history .

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Markul, Panin, then "creator" that
I don’t know how all these dummies get into brilliant actors or "prima donnas"

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And when a loving husband sits next to you, looking into your eyes, then it’s a complete zero. No thoughts, no words, no matter how you resist

It depends on who you are. Tyutchev didn’t seem to have such problems - he didn’t suffer, but he created. Or take Pushkin, he had a lot of problems? Walked, walked and created))). Hormones were the muse there).
Or did Yesenin have problems?

[Watchman]

By the way, I read that many talented people had muses

whore wives? while they were creating?

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nHmm, how do all these dummies get into brilliant actors or "prima donnas"

through the ass

[Bro]

through the ass

yes, that’s understandable, I’m talking about the global situation. Why do they have fans and connoisseurs, and in general people eat shit and praise it....

[Watchman]

through the ass

yes, that’s clear, I’m talking about the global situation. Why do they have fans and connoisseurs, and in general people eat shit and praise....

there are so many sick people all over the place, just look at this forum in passing