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Ideal marriage and ideal sex within marriage
Nothing in life is perfect. Unfortunately, well, what if you are lucky?))) What kind of marriage do you think would be ideal and, of course, what kind of sex should there be in this ideal marriage?
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...Let me start with the fact that I cannot be objective. Everyone has their own understanding, their own concept of ideality. And yet, I can say that I am lucky: I have an ideal husband. Ideal in the sense that we are perfect for each other. Love, care, attention, tenderness... - this is all mutual for more than 13 years. Our temperament is almost perfect. We have never argued or quarreled before.
In sex...There is a slight difference in demands. My husband needs more sex from me than I need from him. But this does not lead to any misunderstandings.
In sex...There is a slight difference in demands. My husband needs more sex from me than I need from him. But this does not lead to any misunderstandings.
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Well... If you try to associate sex with the definition of "Ideal"... Probably for This is what partners should ideally... Feel each other first.) But what is your concept of "ideal marriage"?))))
nIt seems to me that there is no such thing as “ideal sex.” Well... It’s not that it’s not, it’s just that “ideal” is an attempt to fit it to a certain standard. Sex should be vibrant. Various. Liberated. Personifying the most secret desires of partners. And probably taking into account these desires and taboos. And not: "I won’t lick until there is anal"....

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what are you looking for on the forum?.. don’t be offended, I’m really interested.. what are people looking for in such places In my personal life, everything worked out.Shy Baby: ↑23 Jan 2024, 00:50 ...I’ll start with the fact that I cannot be objective. Everyone has their own understanding, their own concept of ideality. And yet, I can say that I am lucky: I have an ideal husband. Ideal in the sense that we are perfect for each other. Love, care, attention, tenderness... - this is all mutual for more than 13 years. Our temperament is almost perfect. We have never argued or quarreled before.
In sex...There is a slight difference in demands. My husband needs more sex from me than I need from him. But this does not lead to any misunderstandings.
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For me, the ideal is mutual understanding and mutual respect.Gelik: ↑23 Jan 2024, 00:51nIt seems to me that there is no such thing as “ideal sex.” Well... It’s not that it’s not, it’s just that “ideal” is an attempt to fit it to a certain standard. Sex should be vibrant. Various. Liberated. Personifying the most secret desires of partners. And probably taking into account these desires and taboos. And not: "I won’t lick until there is anal"....Well... If you try to associate sex with the definition of "Ideal"... Probably for This is what partners should ideally... Feel each other for a start.) But what is your concept of "ideal marriage"?))))
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Well... I tried to explain this, maybe clumsily... Feel each other.. To love without even asking yourself: why do I actually love?... He quarrels only in order to make peace. And not in order to create conditions for reconciliation... Willingness to meet both halfway without an algorithm: if you are, then I am... It’s scary to risk losing this balance... To be ready to sacrifice both, and to no one... So?)Strecoza: ↑23 Jan 2024, 00:54For me, the ideal is mutual understanding and mutual respect.Gelik: ↑23 Jan 2024, 00:51nIt seems to me that there is no such thing as “ideal sex.” Well... It’s not that it’s not, it’s just that “ideal” is an attempt to fit it to a certain standard. Sex should be vibrant. Various. Liberated. Personifying the most secret desires of partners. And probably taking into account these desires and taboos. And not: "I won’t lick until there is anal"....Well... If you try to associate sex with the definition of "Ideal"... Probably for This is what partners should ideally... Feel each other for a start.) But what is your concept of "ideal marriage"?))))
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Borshch is not tasty
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Not just feel, but understand each other.
Without sacrifice, but to find compromises on all controversial issues.
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compromises are of course good, but what’s wrong with mutual self-sacrifice?

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This is no longer ideal))
Well, that is, without conditions - no way?)))
This is no longer ideal))
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We must start with what it means to be an ideal woman in bed. In my opinion, these are outstanding external data, an increased libido and skills, including turning on men at the drop of a hat. It’s hard for me to imagine how you can be a good wife with all this.
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Self-sacrifice is already the happiness of one, at the expense of the misfortune of another. Well, mutual self-sacrifice is one of those things that doesn’t make sense. Unless they are masochists and being a victim brings them pleasure.ilovebiboys: ↑23 Jan 2024, 01:14compromises are of course good, but what’s wrong with mutual self-sacrifice?![]()
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So you’re just afraid that you won’t be able to compete with other applicants for such a woman?

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Do you think a good wife is scary and frigid? Or I don’t understand of your logic
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An ideal marriage, like Communism, is not possible. Well, there are no partners who agree 100 percent on everything, and if there are no family quarrels or showdowns, then there is no development. So is this most ideal marriage necessary - in my opinion, no. The main thing: love and mutual understanding despite contradictions, differences in temperament, sexual preferences and much, much more. In short, you just need to get used to it, as some parts in some complex mechanism get used to over time, and everything will be fine.
I say this from my personal experience, there is probably another opinion.
I say this from my personal experience, there is probably another opinion.
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I don’t think I wrote that way. And I also think you understood everything perfectly.Strecoza: ↑23 Jan 2024, 01:22Do you think a good wife is scary and frigid? Or I don’t understand of your logic
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and In general, this is a utopia, I believe, this does not happen 100 percent in life
and the point here is not at all about masochism, but about pleasing a dear person, seeing his happiness and gratitude - isn’t it Isn’t it a pleasure? In my opinion, a little self-sacrifice is worth it if a person does not take it for granted and sincerely appreciates it
and what does not make sense to me is a relationship in which it is always convenient, but bland
this is all my point of view, if anything
Always finding a golden mean in everything is at least boringStrecoza: ↑23 Jan 2024, 01:20Self-sacrifice is already the happiness of one, at the expense of the misfortune of another. Well, mutual self-sacrifice is one of those things that doesn’t make sense. Unless they are masochists and being a victim brings them pleasure.ilovebiboys: ↑23 Jan 2024, 01:14compromises are of course good, but what’s wrong with mutual self-sacrifice?![]()

and the point here is not at all about masochism, but about pleasing a dear person, seeing his happiness and gratitude - isn’t it Isn’t it a pleasure? In my opinion, a little self-sacrifice is worth it if a person does not take it for granted and sincerely appreciates it
and what does not make sense to me is a relationship in which it is always convenient, but bland
this is all my point of view, if anything

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The topic is just an excuse to talk about the ideal. Who and how sees and imagines it for themselves.
Well, if you don’t find compromises on controversial issues, there will be conflicts
n))) In my starting post it is written that nothing is ideal)))ilovebiboys: ↑23 Jan 2024, 01:27 Always finding a middle ground in everything is at least boring and in general it’s a utopia, I think it doesn’t happen 100 percent like that in life
The topic is just an excuse to talk about the ideal. Who and how sees and imagines it for themselves.
You don’t have to sacrifice anything to please your loved one.
Well, if you don’t find compromises on controversial issues, there will be conflicts
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An ideal marriage is only in the head
It may seem to a wife that her marriage is ideal, but at the same time her husband, secretly from her, has mistresses and double life. It may seem to a husband that his marriage is ideal, but at this time his wife is making plans to get a divorce.
I will say this, not an ideal marriage, but a successful one - one that has gone through crises, survived and held on, and when you want to return home. And you want to kiss your husband/your wife, and pamper, and give gifts with or without reason, and when his/her smile is equal to a ray of sunshine for you, and then it doesn’t matter what the weather is like outside: we are together and we warm each other up. And we keep it.

It may seem to a wife that her marriage is ideal, but at the same time her husband, secretly from her, has mistresses and double life. It may seem to a husband that his marriage is ideal, but at this time his wife is making plans to get a divorce.
I will say this, not an ideal marriage, but a successful one - one that has gone through crises, survived and held on, and when you want to return home. And you want to kiss your husband/your wife, and pamper, and give gifts with or without reason, and when his/her smile is equal to a ray of sunshine for you, and then it doesn’t matter what the weather is like outside: we are together and we warm each other up. And we keep it.
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compromises are something else, in my opinion, specifically about controversial situations
and sacrifice is for me just a sincere spontaneous impulse to please a person even at the expense of your own convenience
not necessarily, yes, but sometimes you want to)) because it is necessary and worth it

compromises are something else, in my opinion, specifically about controversial situations
and sacrifice is for me just a sincere spontaneous impulse to please a person even at the expense of your own convenience
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Nothing wrong except the word "sacrifice" in the middle. And memory, which bitch will definitely hide it all somewhere. And it will come at the most inopportune moment in... a few years.
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I don’t cling to this word, I don’t see anything wrong with it) Christ too brought a sacrifice)) and what?))Hooligan Carrie: ↑23 Jan 2024, 01:38Nothing wrong except the word "sacrifice" in the middle. And memory, which bitch will definitely hide it all somewhere. And it will come at the most inopportune moment in a few years.
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Exactly. And now we thank and praise him. And we put ourselves ABOVE ourselves and trust in him. The situation is difficult for the one who is ABOVE, and even more difficult for the one who must thank for the sacrifice.
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the ability to survive many adversities together, and stay with each other - that’s what what to strive for. Like the song and video by Dolina "Weather in the House"....
in-in, I completely agreeHooligan Carrie: ↑23 Jan 2024, 01:32...I will say this, not an ideal marriage, but a successful one - one that has gone through crises, survived and held on, and when you want to return home. And you want to kiss your husband/your wife, and pamper, and give gifts with or without reason, and when his/her smile is equal to a ray of sunshine for you, and then it doesn’t matter what the weather is like outside: we are together and we warm each other up. And here we go.

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I understood: if we are talking about getting up an hour earlier in the morning and baking for your beloved, some biscuits for tea - that’s ok, I’m for it)) The main thing is not to throw at him in a fit of anger: I got up an hour earlier for you, but now you don’t want to go to the store for me.ilovebiboys: ↑23 Jan 2024, 01:36 sacrifice is for me just a sincere spontaneous impulse to do something nice for a person
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I’ll give an example from life: when I was operated on, I was in serious condition and couldn’t eat anything for several days, the first day I couldn’t even drink, I didn’t get out of bed at all: my boyfriend was sitting next to me. me for several days literally from morning until lights out, and he moistened my lips with a handkerchief - he went to work, barely ate, slept on a chair.
he only went home to sleep and wash.
Is this a victim? Yes! was it convenient for him - no?
he could have made the notorious “compromise”: come to me for 20 minutes, like the husbands of my roommates, bring groceries from the store that I couldn’t even eat and go on about my convenient business
and I don’t extol him for this, but I will always remember this incident with sincere gratitude , even despite how much shit we saw after that
and who would remember about the “compromise” after so many years
damn guys, for your sake, no one ever does anything donated?Hooligan Carrie: ↑23 Jan 2024, 01:44Exactly. And now we thank and praise him. And we put ourselves ABOVE ourselves and trust in him. It’s a difficult situation for the one who is ABOVE, and even more difficult for the one who should thank for the sacrifice.

he only went home to sleep and wash.
Is this a victim? Yes! was it convenient for him - no?
he could have made the notorious “compromise”: come to me for 20 minutes, like the husbands of my roommates, bring groceries from the store that I couldn’t even eat and go on about my convenient business

and I don’t extol him for this, but I will always remember this incident with sincere gratitude , even despite how much shit we saw after that
and who would remember about the “compromise” after so many years
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Well... All the emphasis on the woman is such a thing. Are you perfect by default? Any demands on yourself? Probably just a wallet and shaved armpits (if asked)
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Read carefully. In my post there is no emphasis on the woman, but an answer to the question why an ideal woman in bed cannot be a good wife.Gelik: ↑23 Jan 2024, 01:57Well... All the emphasis on the woman is such a thing. Are you perfect by default? Any demands on yourself? Probably just a wallet and shaved armpits (if asked)![]()
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Well... I apologize if I didn’t understand. But still: do you have any requirements for a man in an ideal relationship?)))Andrew495: ↑23 Jan 2024, 02:13Read carefully. In my post there is no emphasis on the woman, but an answer to the question why an ideal woman in bed cannot be a good wife.Gelik: ↑23 Jan 2024, 01:57Well... All the emphasis on the woman is such a thing. Are you perfect by default? Any demands on yourself? Probably just a wallet and shaved armpits (if asked)![]()
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Because he was lucky to have you!ilovebiboys: ↑23 Jan 2024, 01:55 I don’t extol him for this, but I will always remember this incident with sincere gratitude
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I am not against the idealistic approach. A man should be slightly athletic, pleasant, not poor, smart, generous, caring and faithful. But in life, of course, there are deviations from the ideal)))Gelik: ↑23 Jan 2024, 02:21Well... I apologize if I didn’t understand. But still: do you have any requirements for a man in an ideal relationship?)))Andrew495: ↑23 Jan 2024, 02:13Read carefully. In my post there is no emphasis on the woman, but an answer to the question why an ideal woman in bed cannot be a good wife.Gelik: ↑23 Jan 2024, 01:57
Well... The whole emphasis on the woman is such a thing. Are you perfect by default? Any demands on yourself? Probably just a wallet and shaved armpits (if asked)![]()
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if you are sure that the person is sincere will appreciate it, why not sacrifice yourself?)
well, not everyone is surrounded by assholes, male and femaleHooligan Carrie: ↑23 Jan 2024, 02:24Because he you’re lucky!ilovebiboys: ↑23 Jan 2024, 01:55 I don’t extol him for this, but I will always remember this incident with sincere gratitude

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they sacrificed, yes. The main thing is that the donor does not present an invoice to the victim later. That’s exactly what I mean. Because the temptation is great, and the person is weak. In this context, I am cautious about self-sacrifice.
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If there is.ilovebiboys: ↑23 Jan 2024, 02:26 if you are confident that a person will sincerely appreciate it, why not sacrifice yourself?)
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nbut there were other cases that you are talking about, from other people - there was no smell of sacrifice there, a banal "disservice" or taking credit for your gratitude
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fortunately, I was not charged for that incident)Hooligan Carrie: ↑23 Jan 2024, 02:27they sacrificed, yes. The main thing is that the donor does not present an invoice to the victim later. That’s exactly what I mean. Because the temptation is great, and the person is weak. In this context, I am cautious about self-sacrifice.
nbut there were other cases that you are talking about, from other people - there was no smell of sacrifice there, a banal "disservice" or taking credit for your gratitude

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That is, after all, creating relationships is only based on the woman? And the man is simply present in them, meeting the requirements?)) Then this is rather not an ideal, but a consumer relationship. According to the algorithm about which I wrote: "if - then.."Andrew495: ↑23 Jan 2024, 02:26I am not against the idealistic approach. A man should be slightly athletic, pleasant, not poor, smart, generous, caring and faithful. But in life, of course, there are deviations from the ideal)))
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I don’t know what creating relationships is)))) so I can’t answer .
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if you don’t meet the requirements - no format, free
few people are able to see the potential in a person and reveal it, or rather, help him to reveal
I also had such a case in my life, so don’t throw your slippers
I’m speaking from experience
the problem is that many want to get a ready-made product, no one wants to invest in the development of a loved oneGelik: ↑23 Jan 2024, 02:32That is, after all, creating relationships is only based on the woman? And the man is simply present in them, meeting the requirements?)) Then this is rather not an ideal, but a consumer relationship. According to the algorithm about which I wrote: "if - then.."

few people are able to see the potential in a person and reveal it, or rather, help him to reveal
I also had such a case in my life, so don’t throw your slippers

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Re: Ideal marriage and ideal sex in marriage
n I can’t wait to throw slippers at you, Darling. We’d rather crush spiders with them)))ilovebiboys: ↑23 Jan 2024, 02:37the problem is that many want to get a ready-made product, no one wants to invest in the development of a loved oneif you don’t meet the requirements - no format, free
few people are able to see the potential in a person and reveal it, or rather, help him to reveal
I also had such a case in my life, so don’t throw slippersI speak from experience
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An ideal marriage is probably its absence! Perfect sex is without obligation!
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Re: Ideal marriage and ideal sex in marriage
it’s scary to suck a vacuum cleaner, what if this creature rushes at me
I’ll definitely leave this to you, I can’t even get close to them until I shakeGelik: ↑23 Jan 2024, 02:41n I can’t wait to throw slippers at you, Darling. We’d rather crush spiders with them)))ilovebiboys: ↑23 Jan 2024, 02:37the problem is that many want to get a ready-made product, no one wants to invest in the development of a loved oneif you don’t meet the requirements - no format, free
few people are able to see the potential in a person and reveal it, or rather, help him to reveal
I also had such a case in my life, so don’t throw slippersI speak from experience
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An ideal marriage for me is, Firstly, a marriage with a woman. In many ways, have common concepts regarding general human values and, sadly, similar political views. This is when you want to have children together and intend to raise them. Be able to refrain from excessive interference in personal space. And most importantly, sometimes try to put yourself in your spouse’s place.
And with sex it’s quite simple. Openness, the ability to discuss your own and other people’s wishes and not break each other’s knees.
And with sex it’s quite simple. Openness, the ability to discuss your own and other people’s wishes and not break each other’s knees.
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Well, this is just some kind of ideal code of an ideal samurai)) Once again confirms the fact that the ideal is unattainable.Ksenofont: ↑23 Jan 2024, 03:08 An ideal marriage for me is, Firstly, a marriage with a woman. In many ways, have common concepts regarding general human values and, sadly, similar political views. This is when you want to have children together and intend to raise them. Be able to refrain from excessive interference in personal space. And most importantly, sometimes try to put yourself in your spouse’s place.
And with sex it’s quite simple. Openness, the ability to discuss your own and other people’s wishes and not break each other over your knees.

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Where is the fine line between stupid indifference and suffocation with care?
This is the hardest thing IMHO. But I’m working on myself.

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So we are talking about the ideal!Hooligan Carrie: ↑23 Jan 2024, 03:18This is the hardest thing IMHO. But I’m working on myself.Where is the fine line between stupid indifference and suffocation with care?
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Re: Ideal marriage and ideal sex in marriage
One will say: it’s green.
Another will say: no, it’s emerald.
And the third, looking at everything, will say: I’m finally color blind, and for me all this green-emerald of yours is gray.
Ideal is an assessment.
An ideal is like something highest and important for you, something you strive for. But everything depends on the idea of what and how it should be (or wants). But a person always wants the external to correspond to his internal - isn’t this ideal?
Another will say: no, it’s emerald.
And the third, looking at everything, will say: I’m finally color blind, and for me all this green-emerald of yours is gray.
Ideal is an assessment.
An ideal is like something highest and important for you, something you strive for. But everything depends on the idea of what and how it should be (or wants). But a person always wants the external to correspond to his internal - isn’t this ideal?
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))) The answer is not counted. The question wasVARG_: ↑23 Jan 2024, 09:46 One will say: it’s green.
Another will say: no, it’s emerald.
And the third, looking at everything, will say: I’m finally color blind, and for me all this green-emerald of yours is gray.
Ideal is an assessment.
An ideal is like something highest and important for you, something you strive for. But everything depends on the idea of what and how it should be (or wants). But a person always wants the external to correspond to his internal - isn’t this ideal?
))) Well, how about you so

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Re: Ideal marriage and ideal sex in marriage
I promise to answer a little later, because... I want to do it in a detailed, inverted and perfect way)))
Sent after 2 hours 32 minutes 16 seconds:
In the first lines of my post, I want to say that marriage without creating a family (with children who are brats, diapers and poop) is a meaningless action for me.
So, a paper marriage.
But if a legal necessity arises for a common cause, then you can stamp the relationship on state-issued forms.
I already have enough “tattoos” in my passport.
There is registration, and about military service, and about "blood type on the sleeve"))
But marriage (family) without children, churches without crosses, mosques without minarets...and so on.
And then, this is not a very beautiful word called "cohabitation".
Once upon a time, when I was 17-18 years old, my mother asked me how I felt about marriage, about family?
I answered her honestly: Mom, I want children as a continuation of the family. And I will tinker with them. But it’s hard for me to imagine myself with the same woman every day. Like, the very presence of a loved one nearby 24/7 is torment for me.
Mother asked with a grin: Do you need a harem?
Me: No. I don’t understand how you and your father don’t get tired of each other?
Mother: You’re used to it.
That’s where the dialogue ended. But not in my head.
Of course, we got used to it. When you see each other only on weekends.
Dad is in service (opers) - either on duty, then on business trips, then in anti-terrorism operations, then from vacation they will drag you out to kill on his "land" ".
I have something else - I want to be alone more often.
In the "ideal" - the wife is in one wing of the house, and I am in the other.
I wanted it.
This is the kind of crappy “husband” I am)))
How do you like this kind of marriage?
))
I promise to answer a little later, because... I want to do it in a detailed, inverted and perfect way)))
Sent after 2 hours 32 minutes 16 seconds:
In the first lines of my post, I want to say that marriage without creating a family (with children who are brats, diapers and poop) is a meaningless action for me.
So, a paper marriage.
But if a legal necessity arises for a common cause, then you can stamp the relationship on state-issued forms.
I already have enough “tattoos” in my passport.
There is registration, and about military service, and about "blood type on the sleeve"))
But marriage (family) without children, churches without crosses, mosques without minarets...and so on.
And then, this is not a very beautiful word called "cohabitation".
Once upon a time, when I was 17-18 years old, my mother asked me how I felt about marriage, about family?
I answered her honestly: Mom, I want children as a continuation of the family. And I will tinker with them. But it’s hard for me to imagine myself with the same woman every day. Like, the very presence of a loved one nearby 24/7 is torment for me.
Mother asked with a grin: Do you need a harem?
Me: No. I don’t understand how you and your father don’t get tired of each other?
Mother: You’re used to it.
That’s where the dialogue ended. But not in my head.
Of course, we got used to it. When you see each other only on weekends.
Dad is in service (opers) - either on duty, then on business trips, then in anti-terrorism operations, then from vacation they will drag you out to kill on his "land" ".
I have something else - I want to be alone more often.
In the "ideal" - the wife is in one wing of the house, and I am in the other.
I wanted it.
This is the kind of crappy “husband” I am)))
How do you like this kind of marriage?
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