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I watched 5 episodes. Now the youngsters have seen enough of this series and will return to the 90s. After all, they will begin to imitate.
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Well, my humble opinion is that this shit should be banned from showing altogether. Precisely for the reason you stated above. We don’t have enough of all kinds of AUE people... But on the other hand, I am against censorship as such. And the fact that such series find a positive response in society is a symptom of its serious illness and degradation. This cannot be corrected by censorship.
Z.Y. I didn’t watch the series itself, I skimmed through 3 episodes to have an idea of ​​what it was about. Personally, I was disgusted. But I don’t impose my opinion.
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Gudgeon: 05 Dec 2023, 10:42 We don’t have enough of all kinds of AUEShniki... But on the other hand, I am against censorship
I agree completely. The bullshit will start from what area? Well, I kept it. It would be better if they made some kind and educational films so that children would take their example from them, and not this. Either a brigade or a boomer. Now the boy’s word.
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Sorcerer: 05 Dec 2023, 10:48 It would be better if they made something kind and educational films
Those who filmed this clearly completely lack both a moral core and a sense of proportion. But hype makes money, not "good and eternal". They obviously like money. Therefore, they will not film "good and eternal." And here we return to the fact that this is a symptom of the disease of society: society wants, craves this crap, is ready to pay money for it and admire it. It is from society that the demand for this crap comes. Those. releasing something like this into the world is not a cause, it’s a consequence. Therefore, bans will not solve anything. It is necessary to treat minds for a long time and painstakingly, to educate a generation. Essentially, we screwed up one generation in the utter immorality of the 90s and 2000s. Now this generation is raising their children, instilling in them, understand what values, and series like this add... I don’t really like to praise the USSR, but here they clearly thought better than us about the future.
Z.Y. I know this is some kind of old man’s tediousness. Sorry for that, even though I’m not an old man.
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Sorcerer: 05 Dec 2023, 10:37 I watched 5 episodes. Now the youngsters have seen enough of this series and will return to the 90s. After all, they will start imitating.
Yeah, they will bring back the 90s))).
They will fool around a little and forget). My son told me the other day that there are already a lot of victims (he is 17). They start asking stupid questions - are you in business? - who are you in life?))) Well, they get a bad head).
It’s not enough to imitate, you also have to pretend to be something and really be involved in some business.
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Gudgeon: 05 Dec 2023, 10:42 But on the other hand, I am against censorship as such .
Why?
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It’s not about the series. Let me remind you that this was not on the screens during the union. But there were Luberas already in the 80s. And in St. Petersburg, for example, on Vasilievsky it was pure hell. Line to line. (There are not streets, but lines).
I don’t think it’s worth talking about other cities. It was like this everywhere, and even more so in the provinces.

It’s not about the TV series, guys. And imitation, it passes quickly. At the same time, the majority will draw conclusions

And honestly, looking at the cutesy boys, a little testosterone won’t hurt the nation.
Think about it, a million fled from mobilization! Young guys. But no one drove them to the bayonet point. They just got unaccustomed to difficulties, they became suspicious (forgive me for bringing in a little politics, but it’s a good factor as an example)
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How is this series different from "Brigade"?
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0dlb0: 05 Dec 2023, 19:05 How is this series different from "Brigade"?
well, yes, after "Brigade" no one began to imitate them).
It turned out that the former bandits didn’t really watch the series.
From watching "Boomer" and from "Brigade" the negative remained. I had no desire to review it.

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Mak_Sim: 05 Dec 2023, 18:26 It’s not about the TV series. Let me remind you that this was not on the screens during the union. But there were Luberas already in the 80s. And in St. Petersburg, for example, on Vasilievsky it was pure hell. Line to line. (There are not streets, but lines).
I don’t think it’s worth talking about other cities. It was like this everywhere, and even more so in the provinces.
In Soviet times there were a lot of very boys. Because of this, there is intense competition and confrontation.
I came to the boxing section to sign up in 82, 180 of us came!!! And now in our area of ​​the city, instead of three sections, there is one. And no more than ten boys come to sign up. My son has been boxing for six years. In our area of ​​the city, which is the largest, my son is the only one left among the juniors. Now there will be regional competitions, I wonder if there will be opponents?..
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Awesome!
I haven’t watched the series. But they write about him almost everywhere. And the last place I expected to see it discussed was here.
Young kids always and everywhere imitate the mainstream product. It doesn’t matter whether a product is good or bad - the main thing is that everyone is talking about it.
Stupid imitators will also appear, without this there is nowhere.
But just as quickly as the project took off and gained popularity, it will be forgotten just as quickly.
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vvm: 05 Dec 2023, 21:11 well, yes, after "Brigade" no one began to imitate them).
Yes, I somehow vaguely remember these series. Like - well, they were, but they seemed quite good. But this one didn’t look at all. So I asked.
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Mak_Sim: 05 Dec 2023, 18:26 And in St. Petersburg, for example, on Vasilievsky it was pure hell. Line to line. (There are not streets, but lines).
Lines only on Vasilyevsky Island. In other areas there are ordinary streets and avenues.
But essentially, what you say is correct. Each generation has its own idols. And the Malakhovs and Petrosyans also have their own audience.
Mayakovsky also wrote -
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does that mean someone needs it?
So, someone wants them to exist?
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Evgenii-SPb: 05 Dec 2023, 23:12 Lines only on Vasilyevsky Island. In other areas there are ordinary streets and avenues.
Thanks for coming in to correct it. I don’t know why, I don’t understand what you mean.

And for reference, the lines are not only on Vaska, instead of streets. I know a couple of other cities with lines.
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I just wanted to write a remark at the beginning.... "And when does the respected Sorcerer manage to do everything?".. when damn I don’t come in, only his Themes glow on the screen...
But damn I heard so many interesting thoughts in the thread...
I haven’t watched the series itself... unfortunately or fortunately... I don’t know... but I think that there are "prohibitions" on showing "something" or "someone "the situation will not change... People will still watch.... some just because it’s interesting.. some because of the actors who are filming there... there could be a lot of reasons.. And probably now everyone\everyone can "off the top of my head" name a series that needs to be banned.... in his\her opinion... For example, I watched the series "Life on Call"... I really liked it.. and the acting.. in general everything... only if you look into it... this is just propaganda of prostitution, and in its purest form, and it is served in the form of such "candy"... the girls will look and.... everyone will be in the profession.. well or to dream about it for sure...
There is a very old TV series "Matryoshka Dolls"... Dutch, it seems... the beginning of the 2000s.... our actresses play there asking for titties... so it shows the very bottom this profession.. you look at it in one breath... Tolkalina, Zhenya Brik... unfortunately she has already died... but not about that... she will never want to go into such a profession... because it shows what it is like on really...
For example, there is a Spanish TV series "Vis-a-Vis" or "Vis a Vis".... about a women’s prison in Spain... 4 seasons it seems... just watch.. a lot you’ll discover something new for yourself... so after this series... on the internet, when you were a teenager, they also made their own videos... they dressed like in the series and behaved the same way... they “imitated” girl fights... well, kind of like groups of women in prison .. how they put a girl down for an offense... how they rape her, etc..
What do I mean, if the series is great, then there will be imitators... I myself.. when there is a prison doctor in the series. "breaking" the main character, trying to completely subjugate her... makes her lower her pants and panties, bends her over, forcing her to lie on her chest on his table.. and begins to hit her bare bottom with a "ruler".. and to humiliate her further more. orders her to start counting the blows out loud... and she obeys... damn, I almost finished.. or finished... or didn’t have time.. because the "topic" is damn mine..
but then a security guard bursts into their office and forces them to stop the humiliation... the whole "high" was damned... by the way, there are such scenes with coercion and humiliation among women prisoners in each episode.. and everything is super and it’s not porn or erotica.. you understand that everything is sort of “adult-like” and at the same time a fiction series
but I didn’t watch “The Boy’s Word”... but now I definitely will I’ll take a look

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here ... just an "ordinary" scene from the series "Vis a Vis"

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This smut should be banned from showing. Why put this into young, stupid heads? Remember how many thousands of young guys were lost after the Brigade series. They are just beginning to be liberated by already seasoned lessons.
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Sorcerer: 05 Dec 2023, 10:37 I watched 5 episodes. Now the youngsters have seen enough of this series and will return to the 90s. After all, they will begin to imitate.
I saw excerpts. Complete bullshit
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Oleg257: 06 Dec 2023, 01:58 I saw excerpts. Complete bullshit
I completely agree with you.
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Well, I watched the film, I didn’t see anything why it should be banned. Personally, I love watching documentaries, this film shows the events of past years, but it was simply shot as a feature film. I don’t remember what I don’t like, is that the film shows the realities of life in those years? Of course, many people don’t like what is shown in the film, but if it is banned from showing, the past will not change. Or is it better to lie and prove that this never happened, everyone was white and fluffy and this is someone’s sick fantasy? True, she is not always rosy and beautiful. Isn’t it better to watch the film, draw conclusions and try to prevent this from happening again?
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Mak_Sim: 05 Dec 2023, 23:56 Thank you for coming in to correct me. I don’t know why, I don’t understand what you’re talking about
Young man, you’re talking about the capital’s Lyuberov, etc., a living hell on the lines of Vasilievsky Island “We found out from the press, did an eyewitness - a participant in those events tell you? And at that time I lived on Leninsky, and my company “walked” along Vayka. I assure you, there was no "hell" there. There were skirmishes and fights, of course. But it wasn’t like it is now, a crowd to beat down one fallen, lying person. I’m not talking about nobility now, but some kind of concepts were in the fools. Although there were also chains, rods, sticks, etc.
And the main "civil strife" in Leningrad took place in residential areas.
And one more thing. There is no need to speak in "R" with strangers. :cat1:
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Excellent interesting series, I look forward to the release of new episodes.
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Well, it’s just about the series. Watch what the children watch, it’s actually 18+.
But young people also have a “show for clothes.” What series did they watch this in? So it’s not about the series
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I might be a little paranoid.
But still, maybe this series was created for this?
Create a resonance.
Split people into different opinions.
And when the moralfags push through and it will be banned, this will give the state the opportunity to take control of other areas of life.
Well, like, you yourself wanted protection from everyone, we will give it to you.
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Evgenii-SPb: 06 Dec 2023, 02:37 Young man, did you learn about the “Lubers” of the capital, etc. “a real hell on the lines of Vasilievsky Island” from the press, or did an eyewitness - a participant in those events tell you? And at that time I lived on Leninsky, and my company “walked” along Vayka. I assure you, there was no "hell" there. There were skirmishes and fights, of course. But it wasn’t like it is now, a crowd to beat down one fallen, lying person. I’m not talking about nobility now, but some kind of concepts were in the fools. Although there were also chains, rods, sticks, etc.
And the main "civil strife" in Leningrad took place in residential areas.
And one more thing. There is no need to speak in "R" with strangers
In 89, in the transition of a war veteran, an old man, such "revelers" were beaten for a cigarette. I forgot my last name. The old man was beaten. Dry professor. He and the partisans derailed trains. Yes, bullshit... it’s businesslike. At the dacha, the neighbor across the street is a fool. They pierced his head when he was young. I went to the wrong area. Until the house burned down, in the attic I found those weights and bats with nails that my uncle used to go to the showdown with.
Maybe when you are in a group, it seems like a fun activity to you, but not to those who ran into the wrong people.
I know that there was a code. Uncle was a local authority in Vaska. And there were ideas. But I was holding that weight in my hands... this one will fly in - a hospital stay at best.
And what do you want to tell me, this is not hell for those mothers whose children have become crippled? Because of the stupid concepts of some punks, vocational school students, who later drank themselves to death and became drug addicts in the 90s.
I don’t know what it means to communicate through P. But we are all strangers here. So, maybe kiss your gums?

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Evgenii-SPb: 05 Dec 2023, 23:12 Lines only on Vasilyevsky Island. In other areas there are ordinary streets and avenues.
Why did you bother with this text? Should I be corrected somewhere? If we are talking about St. Petersburg, then I pointed out that the lines on Vaska are instead of streets.
And if globally...then in other cities in the Russian Federation there are streets called lines.

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So, is the series worth watching? Is there anything interesting there besides showdowns and massacres? :)
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ilovebiboys: 06 Dec 2023, 06:09 Well, is the series worth watching? Is there anything interesting there besides showdowns and massacres? :)
What could be interesting in such series? You will only waste your time.
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ilovebiboys: 06 Dec 2023, 06:09 Well, is the series worth watching? Is there anything interesting there besides showdowns and massacres? :)
What could be interesting in such series? You’ll just waste your time.
:unknown: what if there’s an interesting plot) for example, I like the movie "Green Street Hooligans" , but about our series, also with Polen Yankovsky in the title role... *x) I don’t expect much from it, to be honest
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ilovebiboys: 06 Dec 2023, 06:23 suddenly there is an interesting plot) for example, I like the film "Hooligans of Green Street", but about our series, also with Polen Yankovsky in the title role... I don’t care much,
tough film. The relationship between adolescents and adults. Showdowns between districts, involvement of teenagers in crime, concepts, theft. There, a schoolgirl was raped by a grown-up guy who didn’t keep his word. I don’t know, low budget film. We film from one extreme to another, sometimes about cops, sometimes about bandits.
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Sorcerer: 06 Dec 2023, 06:28
ilovebiboys: 06 Dec 2023, 06:23 suddenly there is an interesting plot) for example, I like the film "Hooligans of Green Street", but about our series, also with log Yankovsky in the title role... I don’t care much,
tough film. The relationship between adolescents and adults. Showdowns between districts, involvement of teenagers in crime, concepts, theft. There, a schoolgirl was raped by a grown-up guy who didn’t keep his word. I don’t know, low budget film. We film from one extreme to another, sometimes about cops, sometimes about bandits.
clear, in short, Russian black stuff) the director of the films "Gorko" imagined that he is the second Yuri Bykov))
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vvm: 05 Dec 2023, 17:56Why?
A very complex and simple question at the same time. In general, because if you give one the right to decide what is good and what is bad, then this will always lead to the fact that this right will be used in an inflection or even for evil. Again, who should give this right? Who is worthy? Yeah, let’s choose by voting (does anyone else believe in elections in our country?) - okay, but corruption will devour even those elected by voting. Will we appoint it by decree from above? This is considered to give birth to another government official. There will always be someone who will use censorship for their own selfish interests (scold those, don’t touch those). Censorship is a lever of power. She will be controlled by the authorities and carry out their decrees, act in their selfish, vile interests (and not at all defend morality). Power is a corrupting thing. The authorities in Russia (hell, everywhere) are corrupt. Censorship will only be a reflection of all the corrupt shit that we already have. That’s why I’m against it. Although my soul longs for the prohibition of many things... But I understand that I am not the standard of purity and morality and I do not have the right to decide what should be prohibited. Something like this... In short. And the topic is broad... You can write books.

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Mak_Sim: 05 Dec 2023, 18:26 Let me remind you that during the union this was not on the screens
Yes, and here I am rather inclined to praise the USSR. I’m not a fan of doing this, but they knew how to educate young people. However... it’s all the more strange for me to see how quickly 75 years (three generations) of normal upbringing were flushed down the toilet in the 90s. Although what right do I have to judge... I myself was born in the late 80s
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Gudgeon: 06 Dec 2023, 11:13 but they knew how to educate young people
All of our elite were raised in the USSR.

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Gudgeon: 06 Dec 2023, 11:13 A very complex and simple question at the same time
When a person has freedom of choice and a head on his shoulders, the person himself will figure out what is good and what is bad. Any censorship is manipulation of people’s consciousness and is evil in any case, no matter how good intentions they are guided by or covered up, which is most often the case.
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Strecoza: 06 Dec 2023, 11:24 All of our elite were raised in the USSR.
"Elite" is always brought up outside the system that it imposes on society. So yes. Those in power were brought up during the USSR, but not according to the "canons of the USSR".
Strecoza: 06 Dec 2023, 11:24 When a person has freedom of choice and a head on his shoulders, a person will figure out for himself what is good and what is bad
That is why I am against censorship, but for education, for nurturing a society that will itself criticize such series with disgust. This is why censorship does not solve anything. Never.
Mak_Sim: 05 Dec 2023, 18:26 Think about it, a million fled from mobilization! Young guys. But no one drove them to the bayonet line.
I wanted to explain where you were wrong, but then I realized that you were unlikely to understand, and the political officer would get a specific divorce. That’s why I won’t.
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Gudgeon: 06 Dec 2023, 11:44 I wanted to explain where you were wrong, but then I realized that you were unlikely to understand, and the political leader would get divorced. Therefore, I won’t.
But this is not about politics. And the fact that a large number of young guys prefer to run in panic, at the slightest discomfort. Inert. Infantile."Everyone ran, and I ran."
It was about immaturity, and, admittedly, street fights build character and the ability to face one’s fears.
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Mak_Sim: 06 Dec 2023, 11:56 a large number of young guys prefer to run in panic, at the slightest discomfort
Oh, how far you are from reality!.. I will answer you briefly - so that such It’s stupid to write, go there first for a contract for 6 months (not even for 1.5 years, as the conscripts are already sitting there).
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Mak_Sim: 06 Dec 2023, 11:56 that a large number of young guys prefer to run away in panic, at the slightest discomfort
They ran away because they do not want to kill and be killed or maimed.
Mak_Sim: 06 Dec 2023, 11:56Inert .
Inert are those who silently go where they don’t want
Mak_Sim: 06 Dec 2023, 11:56 And, we must admit, street fights build character and the ability to face one’s fears.
Character is when a person is aware of his actions, and street fighting is a crime.
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Mak_Sim: 05 Dec 2023, 18:26 Think about it, a million fled from mobilization! Young guys. But no one drove them to the bayonet line.
For those who want to develop political conflict, do not read below. This is not why it was written and I hope (although I have little faith) it will not lead to this:
Hmm.... They haven’t been going to the bayonet since the 1st World War. At the same time, this does not mean that you will not be killed. Do you know what remains of a person after being hit by 155mm nearby? Slime on the bushes. Even when burying, you’ll find all sorts of things: small shreds, not even pieces, sometimes they just put something mixed together in bags, you don’t know whose, as long as you have something to give to your relatives... by weight, they’ll add up to 10 kg each and that’s okay. I’m not saying this by hearsay, I have friends (people I meet every week) who lost 3 contracts, many didn’t believe it. War is hell. You shouldn’t blame those who don’t want to take part in it. And those mobilized, unlike contract soldiers, have been there for almost 1.5 years without a shift (just imagine how hard it is). Don’t judge, as they say... First go there, then write such nonsense. And it’s better not to write without knowing what, at all. I don’t justify those who escaped, but I can understand them. Boys at the age of 20, having just gotten married, the last thing they want to do is stomp to die for the fat life of the Rotenbergs and others. I myself decided this: if they call me, I’ll go, but I won’t rush, I won’t run either. In general, moderate your ardor and think first.
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Gudgeon, that’s right! Plus reality is very different from the picture on TV
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Strecoza: 06 Dec 2023, 12:09 They ran away because they don’t want to kill or be killed or maimed.
No. They were running from their fears. No one was chasing them with a subpoena.
All those who received a summons and did not appear at the military registration and enlistment office still live in peace to this day.
They ran because their idols ran. Like a frightened herd at the hint of danger.
This speaks of the immaturity of the individual. And it doesn’t matter what political views they adhere to.
A man faces his fears.
That’s why football players organize “wall to wall” trips. That’s why someone climbs into the mountains. Overcoming your fears, strengthening your will.
Let me remind you that we were talking about street hooligans.
Yes, I think that this was a negative point, but it also had its advantages.
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Mak_Sim, you are still a juvenile fool. I wish you to grow up while remaining whole.
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Strecoza: 06 Dec 2023, 12:09 Inert are those who silently go where they don’t want
Mak_Sim: ↑
We each have our own role in this world. A woman gives birth, a man defends his home, his land and his beliefs. And in case of danger, he must be prepared for hardships and possible death.
The motive of the action in each individual case is important here.
If a person went to the front because everyone went and he went, he is inert.
But there was no mass departure to the front. Therefore, it is unlikely to talk about inertia in that case.
Here "everyone ran, and I ran" in this case is more fair.
We are discussing the concept of inertia.
Much more often a person simply overcame his fears and walked through the difficulty. Or finding motivation in yourself - money, benefits, self-respect, self-realization.
I met guys there with different motivations. But they were all proud of themselves in the end. Because they were able to overcome themselves

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Gudgeon: 06 Dec 2023, 13:49 you are still a young fool. I wish you to grow up.
will there be an argument, or an unfounded "you yourself are a fool"?

And I won’t even say anything about"youngster". Well, almost

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There you have text about 155 mm and the war in general.
Shift of emphasis.
I wasn’t talking about the war, actually. And about the maturity of the individual and the influence of youth movements on the formation of character.
But since you wanted to talk about the war, with what ecstasy you write to me about it, claiming that I don’t know it. Isn’t it too arrogant? I’ve been in this mess for 6 years and believe me... SVO is baby talk.
And I was near Lisichansk, and only a month ago I returned from the kleshcheevka.
And now I’m waiting for a contract back near Bakhmut.
And you don’t need to tell me about 155 mm. While still in the militia, a tank almost sent me to the next world.
In 6 years, two wounds, a tank and Arta.
I lost almost everyone I knew and valued. But that’s not what I wrote about above. This is personal hell.
About the same one that so outraged the previous opponent when I called beating up kids from the wrong yard hell for mothers. Somehow this went unnoticed, right? It was too small and didn’t concern us.
You don’t need to tell me about what’s going on there. I’ve been living there for the last 6 years. Back when they didn’t pay for it, by the way. And everyone is on the front line, 70 meters from the enemy’s trench.
But my personal motives do not concern you or others. We’re not talking about them.

No need, okay? You don’t need to tell me what’s going on there.

My failed father-in-law sat with trembling hands and held the bullet that my surgeon pulled out of him. (Mine, because Tema had already operated on me before ) .
And I sat and thought that Seryoga had finally matured. What he grabbed with the edge, we all got to it without fail. For years. And many for generations. And let it not be surprising why 150 people "ghosts" did not retreat in front of the ukrov brigade, without surrendering the groove in the 17th. Because there are houses a kilometer behind them. Completely different layouts, right?

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Strecoza: 06 Dec 2023, 12:09 Character is when a person is aware of his actions, and street fights are a crime.
Character is what a person would do if no one knew about it did not recognize.
This is the concept of character.
You didn’t read me carefully. I initially condemned that movement, calling them a hell of mothers and citing examples of a beaten veteran and a crippled neighbor.
These are examples from life, I gave reasons for them.
But one should not confuse warm with soft.
That situation as a whole, that atmosphere tempered those people.
You can criticize banditry as much as you like, but the brigade sympathizes with Sasha Bely for his character. It was his youth that gave him those qualities of a fighter.
You can love and not love Dagestan. But their culture of standing their ground appeals. Because they receive such an upbringing from childhood. Are there enough examples? I specifically choose ambiguous examples in order to emphasize the importance of proper upbringing and strengthening the personality in adversity.
I can cite Spartan boys. But critics will remember their sucking experience with mentors...oh, those critics.

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Gudgeon: 06 Dec 2023, 12:08 how far you are from reality!.. I’ll answer you briefly - to write such nonsense, first go there for a contract for 6 months (not even 1.5 years How are the mobilized already sitting there).
Answered above. I went there even before it became profitable and popular. And he received his first rampage into the city after 3 months of trenches 70 meters from the enemy.
And the second rampage after another 6 months. And so in winter and summer. Without potbelly stoves, without these camp gas stoves. Because I can’t afford it. We warmed ourselves with a shovel.
If interested, look at the map, Bakhmutka, village Zhelobok. There, between the plantings in the field, there is an earthen pillbox dug by hand. It’s called a corpse truck. And when they were digging the 7th point, the enemy was 10 meters from us, on the other side of the road. In the mornings I heard a lighter being struck. And daily battle.
And, by the way, about the bayonets. The last case of hand-to-hand combat known to me occurred in January 15th year. I can even name a battalion and a couple of participants.
And I spoke allegorically about the bayonet
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Gudgeon: 06 Dec 2023, 11:13 A very complex and simple question at the same time. In general, because if you give one the right to decide what is good and what is bad, then this will always lead to the fact that this right will be used in an inflection or even for evil. Again, who should give this right? Who is worthy? Yeah, let’s choose by voting (does anyone else believe in elections in our country?) - okay, but corruption will devour even those elected by voting. Will we appoint it by decree from above? This is considered to give birth to another government official. There will always be someone who will use censorship for their own selfish interests (scold those, don’t touch those). Censorship is a lever of power. She will be controlled by the authorities and carry out their decrees, act in their selfish, vile interests (and not at all defend morality). Power is a corrupting thing. The authorities in Russia (hell, everywhere) are corrupt. Censorship will only be a reflection of all the corrupt shit that we already have. That’s why I’m against it. Although my soul longs for the prohibition of many things... But I understand that I am not the standard of purity and morality and I do not have the right to decide what should be prohibited. Something like this... In short. And the topic is broad... You can write books.
If there is power, there is censorship. To be against censorship is to be against power. Power is some kind of order. What do you prefer, power or anarchy? Are you for anarchy?
For example, you can take a family. What will be worse, a family where parents have established strict discipline with restrictions on the freedom of their children or a family where parents do not control the children, and they grow up in complete freedom?

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Strecoza: 06 Dec 2023, 12:09 Character is when a person is aware of his actions, and street fights are a crime.
We were raised differently).
Young friend, always be young,
You don’t have to grow up hurry up,
Be cheerful, impudent, noisy!
If you have to fight, so fight!

Never know peace,
Cry and laugh at random ,
I was like that myself
Three hundred years ago...

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Gudgeon: 06 Dec 2023, 13:49 Mak_Sim, you are still a young fool. I wish you to grow up, remaining intact.
Let’s summarize. I didn’t ask how old anyone is, because I don’t see the point. Intelligence is not determined by age. A fool is a fool in old age.
I want to grow up a man who, sitting on the sofa, having heard enough army tales, tells me something about the horror of war.
Sofa warrior.
You, my friend, didn’t even ask, but drew conclusions, so to speak, on your own wavelength. And I decided to teach. Irony.
Presumptuous. Apparently life didn’t teach me. Or skipped classes.

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And also the Ballad of Struggle. I hope there is no need to quote))
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I don’t have time to watch TV series
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Mak_Sim: 06 Dec 2023, 05:52 Why the hell, he asks to get in. Wanted to get smart?
Calm down already, young man. Consider that I misunderstood you. Sorry. And that’s not what the topic is about at all.
And I respect you for your position!
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Mak_Sim: 06 Dec 2023, 18:04 And also the Ballad of Struggle. I hope there is no need to quote))
The ballad about wrestling might not have caught my eye, but all the children watched the movie "Pinocchio", and not one at a time once).
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vvm: 06 Dec 2023, 17:37
Gudgeon: 06 Dec 2023, 11:13 A very complex and simple question at the same time. In general, because if you give one the right to decide what is good and what is bad, then this will always lead to the fact that this right will be used in an inflection or even for evil. Again, who should give this right? Who is worthy? Yeah, let’s choose by voting (does anyone else believe in elections in our country?) - okay, but corruption will devour even those elected by voting. Will we appoint it by decree from above? This is considered to give birth to another government official. There will always be someone who will use censorship for their own selfish interests (scold those, don’t touch those). Censorship is a lever of power. She will be controlled by the authorities and carry out their decrees, act in their selfish, vile interests (and not at all defend morality). Power is a corrupting thing. The authorities in Russia (hell, everywhere) are corrupt. Censorship will only be a reflection of all the corrupt shit that we already have. That’s why I’m against it. Although my soul longs for the prohibition of many things... But I understand that I am not the standard of purity and morality and I do not have the right to decide what should be prohibited. Something like this... In short. And the topic is broad... You can write books.
If there is power, there is censorship. To be against censorship is to be against power. Power is some kind of order. What do you prefer, power or anarchy? Are you for anarchy?
For example, you can take a family. What will be worse, a family where parents have established strict discipline with restrictions on the freedom of their children or a family where parents do not control the children, and they grow up in complete freedom?

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Strecoza: 06 Dec 2023, 12:09 Character is when a person is aware of his actions, and street fights are a crime.
We were raised differently).
Young friend, always be young,
You don’t have to grow up hurry up,
Be cheerful, impudent, noisy!
If you have to fight, so fight!

Never know peace,
Cry and laugh at random ,
I was like that myself
Three hundred years ago...

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I understand that boys are boys. If you want to fight, you can do it in the gym by sparring. But those we are discussing do not want to fight. These are jackals. They are only brave in a pack. If you break them up individually and offer sparring, they will lay their tails and whine. I have seen more than once when the police bring them for examination, how helpfully they fawn and where does all the arrogance go immediately?! Yes, it’s just that jackals feel confident in a pack, but alone they are cowards.

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Mak_Sim: 06 Dec 2023, 14:28 You didn’t read me carefully. I initially condemned that movement, calling them a hell of mothers and citing examples of a beaten veteran and a crippled neighbor.
These are examples from life, I argued for them.
But one should not confuse warm with soft. n
There are many more such examples than two. A person loses his human appearance.

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Mak_Sim: 06 Dec 2023, 14:28 You can criticize banditry as much as you like, but in the brigade people sympathize with Sasha Bely for his character
Sasha Bely is a character that is so repulsive, so disgusting. Only a sofa romantic can feel sympathy for him.

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Mak_Sim: 06 Dec 2023, 14:28 Are there enough examples? I specifically choose ambiguous examples in order to emphasize the importance of proper upbringing, tempering the personality in adversity.
Challenging the personality is when a young guy works, plays sports and At the same time studying at the university. This is personality strengthening.
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And in the series, the librarian, people kill each other because of books :shock: :shock: :shock: can immediately ban libraries and books? And then what?
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Strecoza: 07 Dec 2023, 00:18 Strengthening a personality is when a young guy works, plays sports and studies at the university at the same time. This is personality hardening
What kind of hardening is there?) For those who find studying easy, they don’t bother. The C-grade students are also not very good...somehow, but they pass. Sport? What sport?
Rocking chairs? - nonsense, not hardening). Does work toughen you up? Which one? As a security guard, does it strengthen you in the office?)
Character is strengthened only by difficulties. When a child goes to school and faces attacks from peers, this is a test for him. He will either fight back or cave in. And study, work, rocking chairs are more entertainment.
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Strecoza, you can’t prove anything to them, they will consume this vomit and praise. They will also provide a theoretical basis, about courage, willpower, traditions.
I think all these pieces of shit are filmed and created consciously, ignorant cattle are easy to control and manipulate. To this same piggy bank you can add virtually destroyed education, obscurantism on TV, churches every hundred meters, etc.
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vvm: 07 Dec 2023, 00:54 study, work, rocking
are there any difficulties in studying, working, rocking?
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Strecoza: 07 Dec 2023, 00:18 Strengthening a personality is when a young guy works, plays sports and studies at the university at the same time. This is personality hardening
What kind of hardening is there?) For those who find studying easy, they don’t bother. The C-grade students are also not very good...somehow, but they pass. Sport? What sport?
Rocking chairs? - nonsense, not hardening). Does work toughen you up? Which one? As a security guard, does it strengthen you in the office?)
Character is strengthened only by difficulties. When a child goes to school and faces attacks from peers, this is a test for him. He will either fight back or cave in. And study, work, rocking - this is more entertainment.
Why does he face attacks from his peers?
And if his peers don’t bully him, but rather respect him because he’s an athlete, then he won’t have any character? Will he grow up spineless?
Playing sports is not entertainment. Playing sports is what shapes character, and studying also shapes character, but waving your fists in the street makes a complete moron out of a degenerate.
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vvm: 07 Dec 2023, 00:54
Strecoza: 07 Dec 2023, 00:18 Strengthening a personality is when a young guy works, plays sports and studies at the university at the same time. This is personality hardening
What kind of hardening is there?) For those who find studying easy, they don’t bother. The C-grade students are also not very good...somehow, but they pass. Sport? What sport?
Rocking chairs? - nonsense, not hardening). Does work toughen you up? Which one? As a security guard, does it strengthen you in the office?)
Character is strengthened only by difficulties. When a child goes to school and faces attacks from peers, this is a test for him. He will either fight back or cave in. And study, work, rocking - this is more entertainment.
yes, yes, in Irkutsk it’s normal, this is how a schoolboy hardened himself at a bus stop.
He goes into the ground, and the degenerate kids will sit for a while and then continue to show their willpower *x)
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