Have you ever experienced attraction and arousal towards the opposite sex on public transport?
Once I was traveling in a minibus from the city to a neighboring village - the trip was about 5 hours - before that I drank wine so that it would stick a little and it would be more fun to listen to music on headphones - because it’s a long drive... And in front of me there was a woman sitting and part of her butt was sticking out a little from the passenger seat so that you could calmly touch her ass from behind and her mother was sitting next to her - at first they talked to her while they were driving - and I was alone behind them I was sitting at the very end of the minibus on the street it had already begun to get dark * and fuck, I got so excited and for the first time in my life I decided to try to touch a girl’s ass on public transport - having first analyzed that she wouldn’t yell at the whole salon, that her paw and throw him away, he’s pestering! I don’t care, I decided - it was already quite dark and I started stroking her ass with my fingertips, sort of tickling her. I paused - she didn’t seem to say anything, she sat quietly and drove on - after about 2 minutes I started stroking her thighs again - and she was already so swollen she wasn’t talking to her mother -but fidgets and sits, it’s noticeable that she likes it and this is her first time :)) Okay! I removed my hand, let’s move on, the girl sits calmly in silence, waiting, most likely, for them to paw her again I’m already By that time I became insolent and let’s stroke her ass on her thigh with my hand, touch her, squeeze like a massage)))))) and she got high, she began to breathe heavily, crawled with her ass on the chair and sat quietly in silence - she was wearing a skirt and I had already insolently pulled up part of it skirts higher (I had to extend my hand further) and was already kneading my thigh and ass - as if it belonged to me . I don’t know how to explain this, but I felt some kind of unearthly pleasure - stranger transport - so cool!! Then they arrived and they left and I didn’t see them anymore. Anyone who has had similar cases, please share
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Have you ever experienced attraction and arousal towards the opposite sex on public transport?
Once I was traveling in a minibus from the city to a neighboring village - the trip was about 5 hours - before that I drank wine so that it would stick a little and it would be more fun to listen to music on headphones - because it’s a long drive... And in front of me there was a woman sitting and part of her butt was sticking out a little from the passenger seat so that you could calmly touch her ass from behind and her mother was sitting next to her - at first they talked to her while they were driving - and I was alone behind them I was sitting at the very end of the minibus on the street it had already begun to get dark * and fuck, I got so excited and for the first time in my life I decided to try to touch a girl’s ass on public transport - having first analyzed that she wouldn’t yell at the whole salon, that her paw and throw him away, he’s pestering! I don’t care, I decided - it was already quite dark and I started stroking her ass with my fingertips, sort of tickling her. I paused - she didn’t seem to say anything, she sat quietly and drove on - after about 2 minutes I started stroking her thighs again - and she was already so swollen she wasn’t talking to her mother -but fidgets and sits, it’s noticeable that she likes it and this is her first time :)) Okay! I removed my hand, let’s move on, the girl sits calmly in silence, waiting, most likely, for them to paw her again :oops: I’m already By that time I became insolent and let’s stroke her ass on her thigh with my hand, touch her, squeeze like a massage)))))) and she got high, she began to breathe heavily, crawled with her ass on the chair and sat quietly in silence - she was wearing a skirt and I had already insolently pulled up part of it skirts higher (I had to extend my hand further) and was already kneading my thigh and ass - as if it belonged to me :yes:. I don’t know how to explain this, but I felt some kind of unearthly pleasure - stranger transport - so cool!! Then they arrived and they left and I didn’t see them anymore. Anyone who has had similar cases, please share :smile340:
When I was traveling with my girlfriend on the bus and stroking her leg, I became very excited. And with regard to other girls, there was never any excitement in transport
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When I was traveling with my girlfriend on the bus and stroking her leg, I became very excited. And with regard to other girls, there was never any excitement in transport
Jerk off, wanker, masturbate... [/quote]Just like the will of V.I. Lenin) [/quote] Do you want to join the will? [/quote]thank you, I’ll somehow manage without your group sex))
JackTheJack, but this is like extreme - it’s possible in such situations get hit on the head or go to jail, but if there is evidence and witnesses that you molested and all that! and if you’re lucky, it’s quite possible to leave arm in arm with her with a stranger! What if she likes you - many girls even travel to the general public on purpose. transport just for the sake of it, so that they can be groped during the trip and, even better, fucked - everyone has their own sexual preferences - there is even such garbage - more often with women - while you are traveling with her, let’s say in a trolleybus and she can cum from touching her hips to your thighs while she is riding -but if you are sitting close to each other - I even read about this in a book - all types of sexual diseases and preferences were described in detail there -
[ref=#bf0000]JackTheJack[/ref], but this is like extreme - it’s possible in such situations get hit on the head or go to jail, but if there is evidence and witnesses that you molested and all that! and if you’re lucky, it’s quite possible to leave arm in arm with her with a stranger! What if she likes you - many girls even travel to the general public on purpose. transport just for the sake of it, so that they can be groped during the trip and, even better, fucked - everyone has their own sexual preferences - there is even such garbage - more often with women - while you are traveling with her, let’s say in a trolleybus and she can cum from touching her hips to your thighs while she is riding -but if you are sitting close to each other - I even read about this in a book - all types of sexual diseases and preferences were described in detail there -
MAKUMBA: ↑14 Dec 2021, 08:02
and if you’re lucky, it’s quite possible to leave arm in arm with her with a stranger! What if she likes you - many girls even travel to the community on purpose. transport just for the sake of it, so that they can be groped during the trip and, even better, fucked - everyone has their own sexual preferences - there is even such garbage - more often with women - while you are traveling with her, let’s say in a trolleybus and she can cum from touching her hips to your thighs while she is riding -but if you are sitting close to each other
It’s clear that someone likes it)
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[quote=MAKUMBA post_id=48770 time=1639497755 user_id=4720] and if you’re lucky, it’s quite possible to leave arm in arm with her with a stranger! What if she likes you - many girls even travel to the community on purpose. transport just for the sake of it, so that they can be groped during the trip and, even better, fucked - everyone has their own sexual preferences - there is even such garbage - more often with women - while you are traveling with her, let’s say in a trolleybus and she can cum from touching her hips to your thighs while she is riding -but if you are sitting close to each other [/quote]It’s clear that someone likes it)
I calmly, somehow pressed one butt, and my hand was on the handrail, to remove it, I thought that I was disgusted, as if I didn’t. So I drove until the people got off. It happened that once I was driving and a girl was pressed a little,
but with her back, or side, but I liked her, I was driving and going crazy, it’s nice that I was pressed to her, it’s a pity then we ran away.
How- that was also the case, in the camp and on the collective farm, I liked the girl, but I didn’t admit it, but I really liked her,
and you say "And my name is Fedya" "What a fool!" (C) film.
Usually, or you fantasize about someone from the salon, or more often from exes, and often later it sticks out.
And from pressing, it’s more morally pleasant, once I hugged my girlfriend, until now I remember
what a thrill it was, sex is quick, but here you can spend hours.
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I calmly, somehow pressed one butt, and my hand was on the handrail, to remove it, I thought that I was disgusted, as if I didn’t. So I drove until the people got off. It happened that once I was driving and a girl was pressed a little, but with her back, or side, but I liked her, I was driving and going crazy, it’s nice that I was pressed to her, it’s a pity then we ran away. How- that was also the case, in the camp and on the collective farm, I liked the girl, but I didn’t admit it, but I really liked her, and you say "And my name is Fedya" "What a fool!" (C) film. Usually, or you fantasize about someone from the salon, or more often from exes, and often later it sticks out. And from pressing, it’s more morally pleasant, once I hugged my girlfriend, until now I remember what a thrill it was, sex is quick, but here you can spend hours.
[quote=rakia post_id=49235 time=1639758828 user_id=1252] What are you talking about here, but there’s nothing worse than being groped on the bus [/quote]
no, I remember when I was about 11, some guy got into my underpants on the bus, he smelled like fumes, he groped and squeezed until it hurt, and I didn’t know what to do, it was very embarrassing, I didn’t even tell my mother
no, I remember when I was about 11, some guy got into my underpants on the bus, he smelled like fumes, he groped and squeezed until it hurt, and I didn’t know what to do, it was very embarrassing, I didn’t even tell my mother
rakia: ↑17 Dec 2021, 09:17
no, I remember when I was about 11 years old, some guy got into my underpants on the bus, he smelled like fumes, he groped and squeezed until it hurt, and I didn’t know what to do, it was very embarrassing, I didn’t even tell my mother
And, this is connected with negative emotions that caused psychological trauma... If this is not the case, then women themselves can initiate men...
[quote=rakia post_id=49240 time=1639761423 user_id=1252] no, I remember when I was about 11 years old, some guy got into my underpants on the bus, he smelled like fumes, he groped and squeezed until it hurt, and I didn’t know what to do, it was very embarrassing, I didn’t even tell my mother [/quote] And, this is connected with negative emotions that caused psychological trauma... If this is not the case, then women themselves can initiate men...
Of course, with negative ones, I was going to school, and I wasn’t hoping that someone would get into my panties, although I was still little, in fact they just crushed my pussy, I didn’t feel anything except pressure, well, it was disgusting
Of course, with negative ones, I was going to school, and I wasn’t hoping that someone would get into my panties, although I was still little, in fact they just crushed my pussy, I didn’t feel anything except pressure, well, it was disgusting
rakia: ↑17 Dec 2021, 09:31
of course with negative ones, I was going to school, and I wasn’t hoping that someone would get into my panties, although I was still little, in fact they were just kneading my pussy, I didn’t feel anything except pressure, well, it was disgusting
Yes, one can only sympathize with the little girl who was so rudely played with her face...
[quote=rakia post_id=49244 time=1639762313 user_id=1252] of course with negative ones, I was going to school, and I wasn’t hoping that someone would get into my panties, although I was still little, in fact they were just kneading my pussy, I didn’t feel anything except pressure, well, it was disgusting [/quote]
Yes, one can only sympathize with the little girl who was so rudely played with her face...
I got on the minibus. It was crowded and more people were crowding in. I stood in the middle of the disabled section of the bus and grabbed the handrail above my head. A plump girl of about 27 years old came in front of me and stood with her back to me. People piled in more and more (it was rush hour after all) and began to push her deeper into the minibus to fit in, and she landed on my chest with her shoulder blades. I basically didn’t want to retreat and press back, because then I would have to let go of the handrail and there would be nothing to hold on to. I felt close contact with her ass and began to get excited. I became a little bolder and leaned my hips forward a little to press myself closer and experienced a momentary awkwardness, because I understood that I was now insanely hard and poking and couldn’t be pushed off by accident. The minibus was rocking, I was bumping into my butt on the bumps. Excitement clouded my mind. Especially when she bent down slightly to take the fare from someone and I fell a little lower. I lost my breath. Then we drove up to the metro station, some people got out and there was no such opportunity anymore since the minibus was empty. I sat down and watched this girl for half the way. I didn’t like her, but I was very excited. She pretended that nothing had happened. It remains a mystery to me whether she liked it or whether she was in a crowd and didn’t notice...
I got on the minibus. It was crowded and more people were crowding in. I stood in the middle of the disabled section of the bus and grabbed the handrail above my head. A plump girl of about 27 years old came in front of me and stood with her back to me. People piled in more and more (it was rush hour after all) and began to push her deeper into the minibus to fit in, and she landed on my chest with her shoulder blades. I basically didn’t want to retreat and press back, because then I would have to let go of the handrail and there would be nothing to hold on to. I felt close contact with her ass and began to get excited. I became a little bolder and leaned my hips forward a little to press myself closer and experienced a momentary awkwardness, because I understood that I was now insanely hard and poking and couldn’t be pushed off by accident. The minibus was rocking, I was bumping into my butt on the bumps. Excitement clouded my mind. Especially when she bent down slightly to take the fare from someone and I fell a little lower. I lost my breath. Then we drove up to the metro station, some people got out and there was no such opportunity anymore since the minibus was empty. I sat down and watched this girl for half the way. I didn’t like her, but I was very excited. She pretended that nothing had happened. It remains a mystery to me whether she liked it or whether she was in a crowd and didn’t notice...
rakia, the drunken bulldozer driver groped you - the pressure force is not under control -with your dirty sausage fingers
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Many girls and women especially in the crowd on public transport try to press their butts against the penis - if you are still a nice guy! in order to find out what size your pants are - most often In such cases, a man begins to have an erection! and I had a case when everyone was standing on the bus and holding the handrails - a pretty girl stood in front of me - I was still young but already an adult ***** pressed herself against the penis while shaking, then moved away a little - and I deliberately took a step closer and at that moment my dick was already standing, pressed close to her, and she felt a boner, but she didn’t think of moving away, she leaned on it and so she drove to the stop, pressing even harder** And the dick didn’t stand so that it stuck out like a crowbar, but along her stomach up and that the girl felt its thickness and size, as if it were falling between her buns - the sensation was amazing - and there are so many people around and no one suspects anything that she and I are having a blast right now
[ref=#bf0000]rakia[/ref], the drunken bulldozer driver groped you - the pressure force is not under control -with your dirty sausage fingers :roll:
[size=85] [color=green]Sent after 14 minutes 6 seconds:[/color][/size ] Many girls and women especially in the crowd on public transport try to press their butts against the penis - if you are still a nice guy! in order to find out what size your pants are - most often In such cases, a man begins to have an erection! and I had a case when everyone was standing on the bus and holding the handrails - a pretty girl stood in front of me - I was still young but already an adult ***** pressed herself against the penis while shaking, then moved away a little - and I deliberately took a step closer and at that moment my dick was already standing, pressed close to her, and she felt a boner, but she didn’t think of moving away, she leaned on it and so she drove to the stop, pressing even harder** And the dick didn’t stand so that it stuck out like a crowbar, but along her stomach up and that the girl felt its thickness and size, as if it were falling between her buns - the sensation was amazing - and there are so many people around and no one suspects anything that she and I are having a blast right now :oops:
There were several situations when my wife was beaten in the subway, and she always spoke about it with anger and irritation.
And here, when there were snowfalls and there was a crush in the Metro, she said I felt someone slapping her butt. But I can’t leave. Well, I think let him enjoy it when he touches one again. Yes, and most pleasant. But there was no longer a crush and I could move away,
but I didn’t. What a thrill it is to break off a person.
In the end, she ended up with a delicious spot of jizz on her butt. And she still walked around the store
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There were several situations when my wife was beaten in the subway, and she always spoke about it with anger and irritation. And here, when there were snowfalls and there was a crush in the Metro, she said I felt someone slapping her butt. But I can’t leave. Well, I think let him enjoy it when he touches one again. Yes, and most pleasant. But there was no longer a crush and I could move away, but I didn’t. What a thrill it is to break off a person. In the end, she ended up with a delicious spot of jizz on her butt. And she still walked around the store
This story happened a long time ago. Nothing special, but I was then either 19 or 20 years old. I entered the subway and stood on the left near the handrail. It’s morning, people are crowding in, I lean my back on the handrail and stand. People come in and a woman stands with her back to me. Good shape, people come in and press her to me. I stand and cannot turn anywhere. She presses her butt against me, my dick gets erect and she stands up so that it is between her buns. It seemed to me that she deliberately pressed herself closer to me and was intentionally moving back and forth, but only a little. My dick was standing up, it was summer, and I was worried that it wouldn’t suddenly come out like a periscope. She also squirms, maybe her pants will fall lower. I’m standing red and don’t know what to do. I felt sooooo pleased, but I was also afraid to cum, because I still had to work and what would I do then? I started to turn a little sideways and I just couldn’t stand it anymore. She walked out through the station and didn’t even look back. I’m 34 and I still remember this.
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This story happened a long time ago. Nothing special, but I was then either 19 or 20 years old. I entered the subway and stood on the left near the handrail. It’s morning, people are crowding in, I lean my back on the handrail and stand. People come in and a woman stands with her back to me. Good shape, people come in and press her to me. I stand and cannot turn anywhere. She presses her butt against me, my dick gets erect and she stands up so that it is between her buns. It seemed to me that she deliberately pressed herself closer to me and was intentionally moving back and forth, but only a little. My dick was standing up, it was summer, and I was worried that it wouldn’t suddenly come out like a periscope. She also squirms, maybe her pants will fall lower. I’m standing red and don’t know what to do. I felt sooooo pleased, but I was also afraid to cum, because I still had to work and what would I do then? I started to turn a little sideways and I just couldn’t stand it anymore. She walked out through the station and didn’t even look back. I’m 34 and I still remember this.
[quote=NitroJ post_id=67649 time=1651511213 user_id=4972] Yes, these touches of yours are bullshit, I was fucked once on the bus... it doesn’t excite me... [/quote]
[quote=NitroJ post_id=67649 time=1651511213 user_id=4972] Yes, these touches of yours are bullshit, I was fucked once on the bus... it doesn’t excite me... [/quote] Did you touch the wrong person? 😁
[quote=Marisola post_id=67772 time=1651589421 user_id=6823] [quote=NitroJ post_id=67649 time=1651511213 user_id= 4972] Yes, these touches of yours are bullshit, I was fucked once on the bus... it doesn’t excite me... [/quote] Neither nor to did you touch that? 😁 [/quote] Worse, I turned on the chivalry mode, for which was thrown into the abyss of despair...
Previously, transport would have been more crowded, but now everyone has a car. And teenage excitability. I pressed myself and my penis stood.
And now only with my girlfriend and we paw, sometimes until our panties are wet
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Previously, transport would have been more crowded, but now everyone has a car. And teenage excitability. I pressed myself and my penis stood. And now only with my girlfriend and we paw, sometimes until our panties are wet
Yes, I don’t often take public transport, but several times I felt it when they deliberately pressed their members against me. The main thing is that I understood and realized all this. Excites
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Yes, I don’t often take public transport, but several times I felt it when they deliberately pressed their members against me. The main thing is that I understood and realized all this. Excites
[quote=rakia post_id=49246 time=1639762592 user_id=1252] yes, so rude, and also the smell of fumes [/quote] It was probably the author of the topic :yes: :yes : :yes: groped the wrong person under booze :daypyat:
When I was still a student, a grandfather of about 60 years old, with the appearance of a typical professor, sat down with me and started talking about the dangers of sexually transmitted diseases, how easy it is to catch them and how dangerous they are. Then he began to tell how experienced he was, he could diagnose diseases by touch. At first I just kept up a conversation with an interesting person, but then he tried to "diagnose" right on the bus, and this action drove me into a stupor, I just didn’t know what to do. He felt a little, said that nothing was clear, but he felt a strange lump, “It’s too early to panic, but let’s go to my house, I’ll conduct a more thorough study.” At this moment I was wedged, I jumped up and ran out at the next stop
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When I was still a student, a grandfather of about 60 years old, with the appearance of a typical professor, sat down with me and started talking about the dangers of sexually transmitted diseases, how easy it is to catch them and how dangerous they are. Then he began to tell how experienced he was, he could diagnose diseases by touch. At first I just kept up a conversation with an interesting person, but then he tried to "diagnose" right on the bus, and this action drove me into a stupor, I just didn’t know what to do. He felt a little, said that nothing was clear, but he felt a strange lump, “It’s too early to panic, but let’s go to my house, I’ll conduct a more thorough study.” At this moment I was wedged, I jumped up and ran out at the next stop
Once (at about 15 years old) my grandfather came to see me in the park. This and that, as much as possible. Is it worth it, can I touch it... etc. And at 15, hormones go through the roof. He agreed to go to the nearest toilet, there they jerked each other off and ran away. He offered to give a blow job, but a guy who has finished is the safest creature in the world
Once (at about 15 years old) my grandfather came to see me in the park. This and that, as much as possible. Is it worth it, can I touch it... etc. And at 15, hormones go through the roof. He agreed to go to the nearest toilet, there they jerked each other off and ran away. He offered to give a blow job, but a guy who has finished is the safest creature in the world :)
Yeah, buses used to have higher density. During my school years, I once rode with my girlfriend in such a crusher. They even wore uniforms, like 9th grade. And an unknown hand touched my ass. And then she moved to my girlfriend)) and returned to my buns again)) the bus ladies’ man) I couldn’t stand such impudent inconstancy grabbed this hand, raised it above her head and said loudly: well, whose hand is this?!! Out of surprise, I think, this man did not even react immediately and did not remove his hand. Decent-looking, in a shirt, an adult. after this incident, my girlfriend and I groped men ourselves on buses, sometimes with 4 hands) and before that on the street we could grab a man’s beautiful ass from both sides. Usually they were in a stupor from the arrogant brats
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Yeah, buses used to have higher density. During my school years, I once rode with my girlfriend in such a crusher. They even wore uniforms, like 9th grade. And an unknown hand touched my ass. And then she moved to my girlfriend)) and returned to my buns again)) the bus ladies’ man) I couldn’t stand such impudent inconstancy🤣 grabbed this hand, raised it above her head and said loudly: well, whose hand is this?!!😊 Out of surprise, I think, this man did not even react immediately and did not remove his hand. Decent-looking, in a shirt, an adult. :leto: after this incident, my girlfriend and I groped men ourselves on buses, sometimes with 4 hands) and before that on the street we could grab a man’s beautiful ass from both sides. Usually they were in a stupor from the arrogant brats :angel:
I remembered an incident from my BOYHOOD.. we were returning from fishing with friends, we were 15-16 years old.. I was 15 in the summer, vacation in those distant times, motor ships of local lines sailed along the Sozh River.. from the regional centers that stand on the Sozh to the regional city of Gomel.. and now we are returning from fishing.. I’m 15 years old.. there are quite a lot of people on the ship.. we are on the aft deck.. I stood at the rail with my back pressed.. at the next stop, let’s say very young women boarded this ship and onto our aft deck. , or adult girls.. there was naturally no place to sit and one of them just leaned her back on me)) I remember my friend said to her, look, they say she leaned on the guy, to which she replied, softly and not blowing.. in general, she pressed her butt in the area my member))) from clothes I was wearing a light T-shirt, family pants and on top of them a cheap satin tights, as they show in Soviet films)), she was wearing a light sundress, of course I’m a junkie, and she and her friends were chatting about something and The "bitch" is still rubbing her ass with a specialist....an hour and a half of an unforgettable journey along her native river))))
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I remembered an incident from my BOYHOOD.. we were returning from fishing with friends, we were 15-16 years old.. I was 15 in the summer, vacation in those distant times, motor ships of local lines sailed along the Sozh River.. from the regional centers that stand on the Sozh to the regional city of Gomel.. and now we are returning from fishing.. I’m 15 years old.. there are quite a lot of people on the ship.. we are on the aft deck.. I stood at the rail with my back pressed.. at the next stop, let’s say very young women boarded this ship and onto our aft deck. , or adult girls.. there was naturally no place to sit and one of them just leaned her back on me)) I remember my friend said to her, look, they say she leaned on the guy, to which she replied, softly and not blowing.. in general, she pressed her butt in the area my member))) from clothes I was wearing a light T-shirt, family pants and on top of them a cheap satin tights, as they show in Soviet films)), she was wearing a light sundress, of course I’m a junkie, and she and her friends were chatting about something and The "bitch" is still rubbing her ass with a specialist....an hour and a half of an unforgettable journey along her native river))))
Girls, have you often been touched or are being touched on public transport? Do you want this yourself? Was there any acquaintance after this to continue?
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I don’t use public transport, but sometimes I gently touch my wife in public places, she almost always removes my hand, but she never once said that I did that!
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Do you jerk off your own penis or the penis of another guy on public transport, or caress, touch, grope women or men
Or do they touch you and jerk you off?
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Has anyone on public transport, when there are a lot of people, become confused and jump out? Or did he stay and pretend that he had nothing to do with it? Or shouted and who farted?))
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There was either an anecdote or an incident;)
The grandfather got on the bus, and when paying for the fare in cash (few people remember now that they paid for the fare with coins), and the coin fell...
Right now my panties are very wet and I want to be roughly torn in both holes. I need to write a report, my colleagues are nearby, and I’m touching my clitoris and uploading a photo to my avatar so...
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I’m already By that time I became insolent and let’s stroke her ass on her thigh with my hand, touch her, squeeze like a massage)))))) and she got high, she began to breathe heavily, crawled with her ass on the chair and sat quietly in silence - she was wearing a skirt and I had already insolently pulled up part of it skirts higher (I had to extend my hand further) and was already kneading my thigh and ass - as if it belonged to me 
. I don’t know how to explain this, but I felt some kind of unearthly pleasure - stranger transport - so cool!! Then they arrived and they left and I didn’t see them anymore. Anyone who has had similar cases, please share 
grabbed this hand, raised it above her head and said loudly: well, whose hand is this?!!
Out of surprise, I think, this man did not even react immediately and did not remove his hand. Decent-looking, in a shirt, an adult. 
after this incident, my girlfriend and I groped men ourselves on buses, sometimes with 4 hands) and before that on the street we could grab a man’s beautiful ass from both sides. Usually they were in a stupor from the arrogant brats 